* Posts by Dazed and Confused

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ISPs must ensure half of punters get advertised max speeds

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Re: Money talks

> Actually, no it isn't.

Given 2 customers one of whom lives right by the street cabinet and one who lives at a distance from the same cabinet which one is going to get the faster connection and which one's line is going to cost more to install initially and then to maintain?

Your example of 2 users, one of an older fashioned ADSL line and one on an FTTC line are different, the ISP shouldn't be quoting speeds line upto 50Mb/s to customers on the normal ADSL line whereas they might do on a FTTC service. So the aren't comparable.

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Re: All good ideas

>but I feel like watching from the sidelines, what with being a A&A customer.

So am I, but I still don't get the "up to speed" as in my area (which is just around the corner from their office) the best available option is based on Open Retch FTTC which means that at the distance I live from the cabinet I won't get that speed. I suspect the main difference for A&A customers is just that they understand what's going on more than most Internet users.

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Re: Money talks

> Forget tweaking the advertising of 'up to', just introduce a policy that if you get sold '40 Mbps for £30' and you get 20 Mbps you pay £15.

OK, not for the ISP, but for the company that provides the actual cabling, in most cases the cost of putting the connection in is probably inversely proportional to the speed you get.

Force all the telecoms companies to provide fibre to premise and your proposal might work, but in most cases the ISP is not the people to lay the cabling.

Also when ISPs try and charge for the amount of data used then there is a chorus of out cries from people who don't like to pay for what they use. The costs to the ISP (apart from what they have to pay for the wires) is probably mostly down to the amount of data shifted.

BTW, I have both metered and unmetered connections at home.

Linux Mint-using terror nerd awaits sentence for training Islamic State

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Re: Low tech

> Fortunately too, not only is Pu hard to obtain, it's hard to make it into an effective bomb.

See the "Oppenheimer" TV series for 1% of the difficulties involved.I'm sure they weren't allowed to show any of the other 99%. Interesting series though.

Nuh-uh, Google, you WILL hand over emails stored on foreign servers, says US judge

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Re: The Lolberal Democrats and the Greens are quite strong on privacy.

History shows us that opposition parties are, but the day they get a riff of power they want all the power they can get.

Windows 10 Creators Update general rollout begins with a privacy dialogue

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Re: Lucky 7even.

Some of my PCs are still on 7, but it seems I'm not safe. The W10 machines in my office suffer from the well known "Thou Shalt Not Print" bug which means it denies being able to talk to any printer I chose to configure even though Windows is happy to ping them and all the web browsers installed are happy to open the printers home pages.

So I'd taken to breaking the embargo by moving files I needed to print onto my old laptop which I wasn't stupid enough to let W10 onto. Then I could safely print from there.

Well silly me.

Last week Microsoft offered me some updates for W7 and one of those has noticed that I was printing while banned by W10 and so has stopped me printing from W7 too now. I get a different error message "Print driver host for 32bit applications has stopped working" but I have the same problem. I can't f*&king well print out what I need to.

As to the creators update to W10, well I'm probably OK there since Microsoft are so totally inept that they are yet to make a version of last years update, 1607, work on my systems. Not that's stopped them trying constantly. So the chances of them being able to make the new update work I'd place somewhere below zero and digging fast.

Broadband providers almost double prices after deals end

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Re: It's the 'Introductory' bit that's tricky

The Beeb's headline on for the story this morning was more accurate "Broadband prices penalise loyal customers".

Seems such a stupid business model, surely what you want is customers who hang around. "Churn" is not good for any business.Typically there is a start up cost of bringing a new customer online, we got a free router. The second year on a deal should be cheaper for the supplier but for the broadband line with the intro deal this year there will be no second year since it will move to another deal with another into.

Uber wasn't to blame for robo-ride crash – or was it? Witness said car tried to 'beat the lights'

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> You want to go to Athens or Istanbul. Human drivers just make it up.

Not tired Athens, been to Istanbul lots of times, they are beginners when it comes to creative road use compared with Bangalore.

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Re: Autonomous or not?

The logs will just show that there was a compulsory update at that time with no option for the user to say "Not now MS I'm in the middle of a busy junction"

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Holmes

Re: Remarkably advanced AI

Crabs? Come on man, this is El'Reg we don't want no crabs here, we want sharks with freaking laser beams.

Microsoft wants screaming Windows fans, not just users

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Re: Windows makes me scream too

> you have my sympathy, pity, and condolences.

Thank you for your understanding. I'm trying to find counselling to help me with my condition. But I've not found a cure. I've got an HP85 too, I find that helps.

Dazed and Confused

Re: Windows makes me scream too

> That is the only truth in your 'story'.

Why would I want to lie to you?

I've got 3 W10 boxes and my wife has 1.

Her laptop regularly moves all the desktop icons from the where they should be on the left of her main monitor and dumps them on the right of her laptop screen. It did it again last night, but it does it regularly. This machine updated itself to W10 without asking, it just did it one morning, just before a very important teleconference.

The laptop I'm writing this on was bought with W10 preinstalled. It won't install the 1607 update but tries every few days. I wish MS would agree to pay for the bandwidth it's eating. It will also not talk to my NAS box yet happy talks to Samba on one of my Linux servers. This is the only one of the W10 boxes which started at W10. The others were updates.

In my office I have 2 W10 boxes, both were updates. Neither will now print. They keep complaining that that they can't connect to the printers, yet if I point any of the web browsers at the printers they connect quite happily. If you prod the systems enough they complain they don't have the drivers. So I re-install the drivers and they still complain they don't have the drivers. Now I'm not the only person suffering thing problem, try Googling for it and if you're allergic to using Google trying Binging for it lots of people complain of exactly the same problem. The same is true to the problem with the fileserver access. One of these systems had the same problem with the fileserver, I tried setting a share up as a network drive and it now connects OK. On the laptop above the same trick worked once, but after the next update it stopped working.

> has been up for just over 4 months now! EXCEPT That damn forced restart.

Oh to sweet irony of it all

THAT WAS THE WHOLE POINT OF MY COMMENT ABOUT UPTIME!

It's still unplanned down time if the OS decides to reboot while I'm in the middle of working whether it's a BSOD or whether the OS says I'm going down in 10mins with no option to say PISS OFF I'M BUSY.

> #mustbeamacfan

New round here are you?

The last time I worked on a Mac it was the original one, the one with a BW 9"ish screen.

I don't give a fly f*&^ what OS I run on a desktop, I just want it to work. I gave up being "interested" in desktop OSs when my old HP-UX workstation's power supply died about 20 years ago.

I run Linux on servers.

I do also have Linux latops, but there is a reason I have rather more Windows ones.

Oh and I currently print from W10 by saving as a PDF file, copying the files to one of my W7 boxes and printing from there. It's quite likely the two W10 boxes in the office will go back to W7 as that seems to work. Apparently I'm not allowed to call going from W10 to W7 an upgrade even if it does improve the functionality and stability.

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Flame

Re: Windows makes me scream too

Yepp definitely screaming here.

W10 boxes refuse to print.

W10 boxes randomly decide not to talk to the fileservers.

W10 boxes with dual screens randomly move your desktop icons around.

W10 boxes keep trying to update, keep failing and just keep re downloading all the update again.

That's before we get onto subjective things like how vile the UI is.

Oh and I almost forgot, W10 boxes that insist on rebooting while you are in the middle of working on something crucial.

quality like it's 1990 again.

When Billy boy launched W2000 the world laughed in his face when he boasted that some of their boxes had been up for 80 days, like that was some sort of achievement and he thought teacher should give him a gold star or something. Well I bet he couldn't manage 80days of up time on W10, it would sabotage his efforts.

Pull your F*&^ing socks up, this has stopped being funny.

Hutch's Three UK users ripping through over 6GB a month

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Re: fortunately 3 do reasonable all you can eat data packages

> So when the Son's Plan comes up for renewal...

Actually it's only recently renewed. It's a better deal than he was on before and I tried to get them to give me that on my contact and my eldest's, no deal, they said I'd have to wait to see what was on offer when it was renewal time.

The contacts are already all SIM only, so no cash back options.

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Re: fortunately 3 do reasonable all you can eat data packages

As a long-term customer who doesn't (often) take the mick with the unlimited data, I enjoy a very significant discount on the unlimited service.

As I said, my son seriously takes the piss when it comes to all you can eat, but they still give him a substantial discount. He uses almost no tethering, it's eating way over 100GB on his phone every month. The Mrs uses almost no data and they moved her to an unlimited plan at the same price as she'd been paying before and that is a lot cheaper than my son's one.

They do other plans for use on tablets and mobile hotspots, these aren't as cheap but they are aimed at people who want to use this as their main Internet connection. They won't let me use my phone SIM in my laptop.

Given what other NWs are charging for mobile data, the 30GB of tethering still seems quite generous on our contracts.

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6GB per month

Beginners

My youngest averages 160GBpcm.

fortunately 3 do reasonable all you can eat data packages

San Francisco reveals latest #Resist effort – resisting sub-gigabit internet access

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Re: Big Cable is why we DON'T have fiber to our homes

Have an upvote but

Holy crap, EVERY city should provide this! Cable companies are complicated, useless, middlemen in between me and the content. Just like record companies of old; why are they still here? I can fetch a song directly from a band, or from iTunes, again directly from a band. Gatekeepers charging for the sake of their gate-keeping. Smells like parasites to me.

Surely one of these also a parasitic middleman.

Can you ethically suggest a woman pursue a career in tech?

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Re: "We need to promote women disproportionately, pay them equally or better..."

@Esme, I spent most of the 80s working in semiconductor research, there were lots of women scientist and engineers in the labs where I worked, perhaps not half but no shortage at all. Nor were there a shortage of them being promoted to being team leaders, managers and on upwards.

At the end of the 80s start of the 90s I worked for a large US IT company in technical support. There were no shortages of women engineers working there. Later I worked with the lab teams both in the UK and the US and again, no shortage of women.

In the last 20 years though I've seen the number of women working in support going down rather than up. In the SW development groups there seem to be more, perhaps still a little less than 20 years back, but not like in the support side.

I don't know why this is the case, why is it that women are now less inclined to enter the business than they once were.

All I know is that my wife who was a great Unix support engineer just ceased to be interested in the technology, then chose to leave to raise the family, something she said she had no wish to do when younger. I suspect that a number of her contemporaries made a similar choice. Ultimately it wasn't helped by fact that the flexible working that the company were happy to give just didn't fit with customers expectations which made life difficult.

Linus Torvalds lashes devs who 'screw all the rules and processes' and send him 'crap'

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Re: Aw Diddums...

> Stick to Win 10. It sounds just made for you.

Which doesn't work* on any platform in my (all be it limited) experience.

* for an acceptable value of work.

Frustrated by reboot-happy Windows 10? Creators Update hopes to take away the pain

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Re: Hmmm

It's not the time to reboot that's the issue its the time to restart all your apps and get back to where you were that takes time.

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Re: BAD thing?

In one of my cases it was a nearly a really bad thing.

It seems able to reboot a suspended laptop. I'd left my closed suspend laptop on the spare bed. I came back the next morning to find it was running and the laptop was red hot, the bottom was way too hot to touch. The stupid update shit had rebooted the laptop only it's got disk encryption (so the updates keep failing but still reboot) while the laptop is sitting at the screen waiting to be unlocked it doesn't timeout and the OS features for throttling back the power don't kick in. So it was heating up. Leaving it on a bed meant the vents were blocked. Hopefully the FW would have switched off before the thing caught fire.

US Air Force terminates Predator drones. Now you will fear the Reaper

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Re: How much ped could a pedant dant if a pedant could dant ped?*

> I should probably just chalk it up to a nervous guy that doesn't have to talk to the press much.

Given current incumbent's view of the press the nervous guys will probably just be allowed to turn up to these conferences in his Reaper soon.

Swedish politician wants weekly hour of paid sex. For exercise

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Paris Hilton

Right

I'm proposing this at today's board meeting.

London Internet Exchange members vote no to constitution tweak

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RevK

Good old Rev. he's already threatened to start supplying encrypting routers and peering at localisation with less Orwellian regimes.

Microsoft's DRM can expose Windows-on-Tor users' IP address

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Re: What? you mean

@cbars

Firstly it wasn't me that downvoted Cynic, any cynic is OK by me.

As to whether the article is clear, I clearly didn't feel it so, hence the original question about whether it was the IP address of the PC or whether it was the IP address of the router. I'd read the article as saying that the Windows media shit was exposing the IP address of the PC, as presumably (my guess from the article) that was inside any packets. OK, perhaps I'm in the tin foil hat brigade but when I resort to TOR I make sure there are no other routes off the PC.

> I also find it odd that you don't think someone knowing your name, address and phone number would be a problem

What I was saying was the exact opposite of this. I'd said that if, like me you run fully routed addresses which can be looked up in whois then you're wide open. But if it is the NAT'd address which is exposed then there isn't much harm and that everyone should do this to avoid casual identification.

Lots of ISPs also NAT the routers IP address and these are not persistent. So to the casual observer the only thing which would be visible would be which ISP you're using.

What I'd not considered was state sponsored snooping where of course the ISP is likely to reveal your ID to the hacker. Or perhaps where the hacker is the ISP.

My other mistake was not to realise that people using TOR would be allowing non-TOR traffic at the same time.

Thanks for the explanation and please accept 1 up vote for your trouble.

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Re: What? you mean

Firstly 192.168.X.X is not a class C address, it is a contiguous range of 256 class C address ranges and therefore constitutes a /16. Except the whole concept "class C" or A&B was deprecated not long after Noah realised he was going to need slightly more than an umbrella and at about the same time it became practical to have dial up Internet connectivity at home in the UK.

Well of course any 192.168.X.X is a reserved private address block, other 192 addresses have other jobs, I used to "own" 192.195.something.orother. But when did you last see a non technical home user ever change it, or even a technical one for that matter, there is almost never a reason to change it from the one your ISP has setup when they ship you a router (assuming you run the router they give you). My point was that the private IPv4 address that most people use is of no practical use to anyone as a means of identify you and it isn't even persistent. There could easily be a hundred million PCs currently using that IP address.

The article completely fails to give any details of how the attack compromises you. It's bad that information can be leaked, but a limited sort of bad in most cases.

Sure if you run routed IP address blocks then a quick whois will give the miscreant your name, address and phone number. The PC I'm typing this on would fall into that category. The one next to it is using an RFC1918 private address which admittedly isn't 192.168.0.0/24, for reasons of a private joke.

One thing the article doesn't say is whether it is just the IP address of the PC itself, I'm assuming that is all that can be leaked here. So if you are DNAT'd then there isn't much to worry about for most people.

If you are running IPv4 real public address or you're using IPv6 (which is more likely to use public addresses) then you might well be being left open to identification.

Personally I think everyone should use NAT'd address for client only systems to avoid casual identification. I don't see any reason why people should be forced to walk around the Internet with a label stuck to their foreheads with their name and address in large print for anyone to read. The backers of IPv6 don't seem to agree with me. Sure there are protocols which NAT buggers up but in most cases the answer should be to fix the bloody protocol not make everyone pull their pants down and show their privates.

Dazed and Confused

What? you mean

192.1.0.1 ?

Isn't that what most home PCs use?

Or is it the IP address of your router, lots of ISPs NAT those too.

OK, so I'm an awkward bugger with routed IP address blocks at home, but most people don't.

Who do you want to be Who? VOTE for the BBC's next Time Lord

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Harriot Harman

Then we can all just hope some Dalek gets lucky.

Boeing's 747 to fly off the production line for the foreseeable future

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Re: even if its role has changed to a cargo-hauler.

Errrrr it always was a cargo-hauler.

That's why it's got an upstairs, it allowed the cargo version to have an opening front end which is normally where those pesky pilots sit and mess up the easy loading and unloading. By moving the flight deck up above the loading doors they could solve that problem, which then gave the distinctive hump and room for a few (later more and more) seats up top.

Personally my favourite place to fly is on the upper deck, I've been lucky enough to be upgraded to first class a few time by BA but I still think the upstairs window club seats are better with that row of lockers all down the side which are a convenient place to stuff all your s*&t and spread out your junk during the flight.

Oracle sues its own star sales rep after she wins back $200k in pay fight

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Re: binding

No, it's like a license agreement. You agree you owe them everything and they agree they owe f*&k all. The abitrator didn't understand this basic tenant of Oracle law.

Penguins force-fed root: Cruel security flaw found in systemd v228

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RHEL/CentOS 6

I think I loath and despise 7 more and more with each and every passing day.

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WTF

If you touch a file, make it 7777 so it's world writeable and SUID then a non root user writes to the file the kernel takes away SUID and SGID. So not only is systemd being done in letting you create the 7777 file in the first place. It's being dumb is letting you write something to it which could then be executed.

Only root would be able to issue the write without the 6000 mode bits being reset.

Microsoft Germany says Windows 7 already unfit for business users

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Re: let's now guess which screen my window is going to open on next

Actaully that's pretty much my experience of W10 with dual screens, or actually of 1 of my dual screen W10 systems, the other one isn't doing it.

The laptop I'm writing this on has a micky mouse 1920x1080 ulr (ultra low res) screen and then there's a 2560x1440 32" monitor I mostly use. Everytime I open MS Edge it opens on the laptop screen regardless of where it ran last time whereas FF will open of the screen it last used. If I open the dialog for text colour in TB it opens on the crack between the two screens. Some applications will move to the laptop screen when the screen saver blanks the displays... others don't.

There are other apps that display weird behaviour on this PC with dual screens.

Dazed and Confused

Re: Enough Whining.

Windows 10 never has been fit for business use if any of my W10 boxes are anything to go by. The best that can be said for it is that at least it isn't quite as bad as 8.

Embrace the world of pr0nified IT with wide open, er, arms

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Laser printers are always “faster” and “last longer”

Nah, each new generation of laser printer will simply demand that you buy it ever more expensive toner cartridges. If you buy consumer level laser printers then the toner will probably cost you more than the damn printer did!

Anti-smut law dubs PCs, phones 'pornographic vendor machines', demands internet filters

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Re: the local government websites are actually pornographic

Now that all political announcements are made via Twatter and Twatter is so called because there are more pictures of twats on it than even the most addicted of porn surfers can shake their sticks at, it should be easy to block all politicians.

Fedora 25: You've got that Wayland feelin', oh, that Wayland feelin'

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Re: Wayland. Fedora 25

> Remote X sessions are an absolute requirement.

Remote X has a major issue apart from the security side of things which is handled by an SSH tunnel. A lot of X applications are latency sensitive, so while they work well over a LAN they are often a pain over a WAN. If you're sitting in Blighty and looking after a stack of servers in the US then using X directly can be a pain. Remotely displaying with VNC leads to much more responsive displays (and you can still tunnel it through SSH).

I've not yet played with Wayland, I'll have to have a play, been banging around with X11 for 30 years come later this year and of course X10 before that.

The Register's Top 20 Most-Commented Stories in 2016

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Re: 100% certain

> The full extent of Chinese subsidy of Apple assembly in China is now known

Hmmm, if China doesn't want to build them, and Samsung don't want supply critical parts might we have seen peak i-Thingy?

(oh no, commenting about Apple, bang goes my up/down ratio :-)

Apple sues Nokia's pet patent trolls

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Supreme sidestep

Well that's one way to chose which court you want to sue in, "We think you broke the law in Germany, so we'll see you in a German court".

Did webcam 'performer' offer support chap payment in kind?

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Re: Oops

> a not unattractive female teacher

As a teenager I was a very keen photographer. One lesson our teacher hadn't shown up and we had a relief teacher who just let us sit there and read. So I was reading through an article in Amateur Photographer, when suddenly the teacher came straight up to me and confiscated the magazine.

"You can have that back after school"

I was a little bemused, but found something else to occupy my time. After school I went to the staffroom to fetch my magazine back. Later that evening I think I realised why it had been taken away by this particular teacher. There was a lovely series of photos of her topless posing with some butterflies. I'd never have noticed it was her if she'd not brought it to my attention.

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Re: Love a good pr0n investigation

> The great thing about having a teenage son is being able to blame such things on them. ;)

Is that like when politicians claim that having a husband explains why they are claiming for porn vids on their expenses?

Microsoft offers UK cloud customers private pipes

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Re: less latency and therefore less failover

The difference in latency of using a direct link and leased fibre via an ISP is likely to be tiny. A leased fibre is giving you what? a 2ms latency via an ISP, at least that's what I used to see on a line from BT to a data centre in the middle of nowhere going to some other Internet sites over 10 years ago. Skype runs happily over comparatively large latencies or we wouldn't all use it. I'm not an expert on the human perception in communication, but I'd be surprised if you can spot a 100ms delay. delays of over 200ms are human recognisable but don't seem to affect how easily we can talk to people in Oz, delays of a whole second mess you up and you have to get used to not interrupting each other.

So I stand by my comment that it's generally wrong to associate latency to availability.

And no I didn't miss the story about MS having patched their patch, but if you can't get on the network you can't load the patch for the patch.

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less latency and therefore less failover

OK, so if they know that little about networking then I can think of a really good reason for not going to talk to them.

Perhaps this explains their recent hiccough with DHCP.

Microsoft quietly emits patch to undo its earlier patch that broke Windows 10 networking

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Re: Alternatives to skype

The problem with not using Skype is that everyone you want to talk to does use Skype.

If the grandkids say, Grandma why don't you use Skype, then you get your ears bent because the PC you set up for her doesn't use Skype.

It's also the case that abominations like flash on websites (which of course should be outlawed) exist and are easier to deal with in Windows.

If I knew my mother would only do things which worked on Linux I'd have setup her PC using Linux. My bother and I both work in Linux and would find it much easier. But she also gets very useful help from grand kids, and they don't work with Linux.

Windows is what most people use because it is what most people use.

I wish it wasn't, I wish there was something much simpler that just worked.

Facetime is not the answer unless all the people you talk to are also Apple users. As my mother knew 70 or more years ago, when your house is the only one in the village with a telephone you can't use it to talk to anyone else in the village.

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Re: ,So there's an online fix for not being able to get online?

Or, you know, you could run "ipconfig /release" and "ipconfig /renew" to get back online and then download the update.

Sure, that was the first thing I tried on the Misses' laptop and it worked.

But

There is zero chance I'm going to be able to get my mother to type those commands on her's. She now reads emails and will finally even read text messages on her phone, but despite having worked as a typist in the past she is not prepared to send email or texts. The chances of getting her (and I'm extrapolating from her) and millions of similar people to do an ipconfig... are zero.

If she gets the problem it will have to wait until I can drive over and see her. In the mean time I'll just hope she's not been affected, and hope even more that if she has, my father who as debenture hasn't tried to fix it for her.

Botched Microsoft update knocks Windows 8, 10 PCs offline – regardless of ISP

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Re: loss of business

Government's should do this, and I'm sure they can take on MS.

EU seems keen on doing this sort of thing.

Sadly they don't seem keen on wiping the whole EULA thing off the face of the planet. I really wish they would as no one else it likely to manage. Of course if the judge's PC were to bork part way through the trial it might help. If they felt the pain the rest of us do they might well reach of the black cap.

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Re: loss of business

You agreed to the EULA which says that you owe MS everything and they owe you nothing. If you want compensation you'd have to convince a court that the EULA wasn't a reasonable contract (it isn't) and that you basically agreed to it under duress (you don't have any choice). Then you might be able to go after the compensation you (and all the rest of us) rightly deserve. However MS will spend more of legal fees than you, so they'll win.

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Re: Oh goody

Well he could be using his fixed IP address directly on his PC. I do one some of mine.

The issue isn't to do with the router except is as much that most people use their router as their DHCP server. But regardless of what you are using as a DHCP server W10 was knaggered it. The DHCP server is happily responding to requests and offering configs and it looks like W10 is just ignoring these responses.

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Re: Plusnet are a bit pushed right now

> Still think it is IPv6 related

Hardly, It's been taking out my wife's W10 PC most of last week and that is getting it's DHCP from my CentOS server. The server is sending DHCP responses and they aren't being acted upon. I'm only handing out IPv4 addresses.

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Trollface

Re:There is a Microsoft theme song in there.

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