Re: So, smart meter joy is continuing
The genny feed isn't as common.
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That's the issue, if you pull the primary fuse on my system, it's not safe, you need to pull the DC and AC isolators on the PV array too to disable the inverter, and lock off the genny switch, or it'll auto close. Most meter installers think pulling the grid fuse makes it safe because the grid is disconnected *nods*
Define "non-standard"? All the equipment in my house is perfectly normal as per both the last and current editions of the regs. Just because most homes do not have PV Arrays and generator switch over units doesn't mean they are non-standard.
Doesn't mean your average sparky doing domestic meter installs knows how they work.
My energy provider wanted to fit a smart meter, I had just had a PV array fitted, and the house has a genny feed fitted too. They said that was too complicated, and they would take me off the list.
Their installer company then contacted me and said I had to have a smart meter fitted. I pointed out the provider had taken me off the list due to the above reasons, they said it didn't matter.
I asked if they had an installer more suited to an industrial install then a residential, they said no. I said I would not be held responsible if they sent out someone with out the knowledge of a system like this and they electrocuted themselves. They said I had just issued a death threat against their staff...
"(in over 11,500 branches, each of which might have two, three even four active terminals at any one time)"
My local post office has 7 counter positions in the main section, plus the 4 self service units, plus an extra counter position by the door. And I have seen all of the counters open at once, so not 3 even 4 active terminals, but 8 + self service.
Client of mine rents office space from another company, so our servers are in a mini rack in their computer room. there's 3 part trunking along the wall with the 2 air cons on it.
When I started, said trunking had plastic sheeting taped to the wall above it, under the right aircon. It was like that for 3 years.
I wasn't thinking vers as in who's better at opening, I was more thinking...
This is the lock picking lawyer and today I'm stuck in this lift in a UK office building after a meeting with the IT staff... However, I do have my covert companion with me, which I sell over on... ;)
yeap, sometimes your fuel is your reaction mass, chemical rockets for example, but as the design in the article is setup, it's electrical input for the energy, which is your "fuel" (it's just weird to say electricity is a fuel, but in this case it does full fill that role), and the air for the reaction mass. *nods*
"At 50MPG (11 miles/litre) that's 6p/mile"
If my main car gets 50mpg, she goes into the garage, as something is _seriously_ wrong.
On long trips I expect 70+mpg, around town I expect around 60mpg.
Which just makes the comparison figures even worse *nods*
I said for me it doesn't make economic sense at the moment, with out charging at home, I'm stuffed on range, cost, and time. *nods* they have spent days saying how I should pretty much run my life and work around the car, rather then the car being a tool to do a job.
"You were the one who chose Aldi - but the point here is to have local journeys be self sufficient, you go to a shop (any shop) and charge whilst you shop, zero time taken - "
No, I chose aldi as _IT HAS A CHARGER_. "You can go to a shop (any shop) and charge whilst you shop" Really? So I go to sainsbusys and what, roll a 50 metre cable into the shop and plug in to a BS1363?
Because here's a fact you keep missing.
You can only charge where there's a charger.
I can't "go to any shop and charge", I could only go to a shop that has a charger. And that means either Aldi or Lidl.
So lets check your idea of shopping and charging: I drive to Sainsburys and do my 30 min shop, I then drive to Aldi, connect the car to the charger, walk in... buy the 2 or 3 items I couldn't in Sainsburys and walk and disconnect the car after it's 5-10 mins of charging.
Total charging amount: 1.2kWh. Not much. But I've driven 4 miles to get that charge. Woo, net outcome pretty much zero.
"I have this weird aversion to making pointless journeys to fuel stations" Weirdly I have this aversion for making pointless journeys too, but in my case it's things like "lets drive to a shopping centre I have no interest in going too, and spending hours there doing nothing because the car demands it"
I'm glad you can happily find things to do in places like that, but I'm just wasting time and bored.
"the least bad option is probably a tesla" tell me which tesla estate you'd recommend then, as it would have to replace both my cars, and it it can't fit a 24U rack in the back, it's not upto the job.
I'm giving up, I said right at the start "the economics of this do not work for me" and you have spent days showing how exactly they don't work but you have tired to force useless "solutions".
Put your money where your mouth is. Do a week of 60-120 mile days, with out charging at home, only using public chargers, where the places you go _DO NOT HAVE THEM_ and see how long till you are making a "pointless journey". Ironically, that pointless journey you think I'd be making is the 80 metres to pull off an A road, and into the services, and the 120 metres to rejoin it. I'm impressed how managed your time is is 200 metres makes that much of a dent in it.
Oh, and as for your less than claimed cost: https://www.motorfuelgroup.com/ev-power/ It's right there. 79p/kWh.
Sorry, why would I not abandon my car outside a supermarket?
What else am I going to do?
Walk around the aldi for 2 hours?
Walk home, and imminently walk back?
As for a tesla with supercharging? Nearest supercharger is 65 miles away, so I'm back to the MFG charger at 79p/kWh.
And my Q30 happily hits (average) 76mpg on long trips. And I haven't even hit the official test results.
I get though 50 litres for 700 miles - that's a tank average of around 64mpg. My 2 litre tdci mondeo can do that, let alone the K9K in the Q30
"You might also want to look at various membership options - Ionity passport would cost £5.50/month, but gets you 56p/kWh, rather than 74p/kWh."
Except lonity doesn't apply at MFG, so that's £5.50/month and still paying 79p/kWh. I don't know where you're getting 74p/kWh from, as MFG clearly says 79p.
You seem to have this weird idea I'd be driving to places with chargers to do anything other than charge. No, the places I go to to do things _do not have changers_, therefore the only reason for me to go to somewhere with a charger with an EV is to charge it. Therefore yes, you will me babysitting it as it charges as there is _NOTHING ELSE TO DO_. As I said, with the aldi one the maximum charge you can do is 2 hours, that's 14kW, so to do anything else I'm abandoning it in the car park (against their terms of service, as I'm not a customer) and walking somewhere else. Except anywhere I'd want to go is between 45 and 60 mins walk away. So sure, I could drop the car off, walk somewhere, walk right back, move the car.. I might as well be sat in the car.
AC? Sure. I can sit outside an adli for 2 hours (max time) at 7kWh.
I didn't choose the "most" expensive charger, I chose the _1_ fast charger I knew of in the area. turns out there's another. It's only 85p/kWh, or 6p more then the MFG one.
" so you'd probably want to get a 7kW charger installed at work" I'm a field engineer, you expect me to have a charger fitted at all 30 sites I go to? You do realise the standing charge of that alone would be £16 a _day_?
"But then commuting 60 miles" I don't commute. My "commute" is rolling over in bed and picking up a laptop.
The miles are to where I need to work. Today it was 87 miles, tomorrow might be 595 miles.
DC chargers _ARE_ for everyday charging _WHEN YOU HAVE NO OTHER CHOICE_
Small town, but my area is all terraces built in the 1860ish time. All parking is on road, pavement between the road and the houses, street lights are on the house side of the pavement, so that would still have cables crossing the pedestrian area, etc... There's lumps of the UK like this. And the government's view as far as I can tell is "don't be too poor to afford a house that your new car agrees with"
"Why use the nearest shell charger" There's no shell chargers around me. The closest public charger is 16 miles away, and is motorfuels group, they charge 79p/kWh.
That's my entire choice for a fast charger.
Everything else is 7kW chargers with a max charging time of 2 hours (the chargers in the local aldi and lidl)
And as for petrol would cost more: I don't drive a petrol ICE, I drive a diesel that returns an average of 75mpg on trips.
I can't charge an BEV at home, the charger I'd be using is (ignoring the cost of my time) £0.79/kWh.
To do my weekly mileage would be between £120 and £150. It's around £70 in my "smaller" car and £100 in the big one (Q30 vers Mondeo estate).
That's before buying/insuring/etc costs, atm it doesn't make any economic sense in my case.
Not just that. From the employers side: they want it to not be capex, but running costs.
I've had clients say that to me. They don't want to buy things, as that comes from the capex budget, they are happy to lease services at a much higher cost over time, because it's a different budget...
I was doing some work at a local NHS office which is one of the area disaster centre locations.
I'm not sure what they will do soon, as one of the jobs I did for them was to route a PSTN connection to their main meeting room, for disaster use.
Why? Well, all their phones are VoIP, and step one in their disaster plan for anything is: disable the internet connections and inter-site connections on all sites.
So the first step in their disaster plan was to cut the disaster management offices off from the world.
Hence asking when I was there if I could do something to get this one left over analogue line wired in.
Thankfully, this is SEP.