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Climate change bust up: We'll launch our own damn satellites if Trump pulls plug – Gov Brown

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Oh dear! Did I really write all those words you are attributing to me? Or are you just making stuff up?

As it happens I perform the bath experiment a 3-4 times a week. I'm severely arthritic and bath salts help relieve the pain. And it has nothing whatsoever to do with CO2 dissolution in seawater.

Have you ever attempted to alter the pH of seawater with CO2? If you had, you would discover it doesn't work terribly well. Perhaps you should try reading and understanding the literature.

Here's an interesting paper published in Geochemistry, Geophysics,Geosystems : Species-specific responses of calcifying algae to changing seawater carbonate chemistry

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Uptake of half of the fossil fuel CO2 into the ocean causes gradual seawater acidification. This has been shown to slow down calcification of major calcifying groups, such as corals, foraminifera, and coccolithophores. Here we show that two of the most productive marine calcifying species, the coccolithophores Coccolithus pelagicus and Calcidiscus leptoporus, do not follow the CO2-related calcification response previously found. In batch culture experiments, particulate inorganic carbon (PIC) of C. leptoporus changes with increasing CO2 concentration in a nonlinear relationship. A PIC optimum curve is obtained, with a maximum value at present-day surface ocean pCO2 levels (∼360 ppm CO2). With particulate organic carbon (POC) remaining constant over the range of CO2 concentrations, the PIC/POC ratio also shows an optimum curve. In the C. pelagicus cultures, neither PIC nor POC changes significantly over the CO2 range tested, yielding a stable PIC/POC ratio. Since growth rate in both species did not change with pCO2, POC and PIC production show the same pattern as POC and PIC. The two investigated species respond differently to changes in the seawater carbonate chemistry, highlighting the need to consider species-specific effects when evaluating whole ecosystem responses. Changes of calcification rate (PIC production) were highly correlated to changes in coccolith morphology. Since our experimental results suggest altered coccolith morphology (at least in the case of C. leptoporus) in the geological past, coccoliths originating from sedimentary records of periods with different CO2 levels were analyzed. Analysis of sediment samples was performed on six cores obtained from locations well above the lysocline and covering a range of latitudes throughout the Atlantic Ocean. Scanning electron micrograph analysis of coccolith morphologies did not reveal any evidence for significant numbers of incomplete or malformed coccoliths of C. pelagicus and C. leptoporus in last glacial maximum and Holocene sediments. The discrepancy between experimental and geological results might be explained by adaptation to changing carbonate chemistry.

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Re: "Deniers" a pejorative? I think not

I have had papers reviewed. I do not recall any of the reviewers being a pal of mine. I have worked (and have publications) in 3 completely unrelated scientific fields by the way - Organic Chemistry, Molecular Biology and Numerical Methods (Applied Mathematics).
I have absolutely no doubt that what you write is true. But that doesn't mean that skulduggery never takes place.

Climatology has been pretty smelly for several decades now. Von Storch attributes this to a remarkably small clique, only perhaps 30-40. But then until Hansen's 1988 paper it was a discipline few aspired to.

Happily there appears to be some turning of the tide and there's been several interesting papers published of late.

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Re: @ eric halfabe (was "Deniers" a pejorative? I think not (@ itzman))

It's exactly the same process that shells and coral skeletons -also made of calcium carbonate- undergo.
It's not actually. Shells do not form from minerals precipitated from the surrounding seawater (outside in); they form from the inside out. The internal pH of the shelly fauna is as affected by the pH of seawater as my wife's blood pH is affected by her rinsing her hair in vinegar. That is not at all.

It's also worth noting that there are many natural CO2 seeps that bubble a continuous stream of CO2 into the sea. They are surrounded by abundant sealife, including corals and shelly fauna.

CO2 Seep The article accompanying the image claims that the coccoliths are suffering from dissolved shells, but the abundance of coccoliths during the Paleocene-Eocene CO2 excursion never changed.

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Regardless of whether you believe in human induced climate change causing runaway global warming, consistent data collection is essential just to monitor natural climate change. They should consider very carefully what information to collect and not make some rash decision.
The oddity here is that the information of interest, the energy budget of Earth, is not measured, but only estimated. Temperature is not a measure of energy. Energy arrives from the sun and energy is radiated by Earth to outer space. This is always more or less in equilibrium, but when it changes the planet cools or warms before a new equilibrium becomes established. Different equilibrium states over time illustrated here: 600 million years of climate change

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Quoting climate change "believer" Mark Seal

As the forum continued to grow, as the blog began to catch traffic, and as I continued to try and recruit green members I continued to be disappointed with the debate. In short, and I am sorry to say it, anti-greens (Reds, as we call them) appear to be more willing to comment, more structured, more able to quote peer reviewed research, more apparently rational and apparently wider read and better informed.

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The only feasible explanation that I can come up with so far is that perhaps Greens are less invested in the status quo, and therefore less motivated to protect it? The other possibility is that we are all completely wrong and we’re deluded – please tell me this isn’t so.

[Emphasis mine] Green Advocates Failing in Climate Debate

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The funniest "warmest year evah"...

... was more than a decade ago when Phil Jones of the Climatic Research Unit at U East Anglia announced the year's results. Both the southern and northern hemisphere had cooled over the year, but the average temperature of both had increased. Ya gotta laugh :-)

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Re: Global warming is an industry not science

A report from the Tennessee Center for Policy Research, which said it used figures from the Nashville Electric service says that Gore’s 20 room mansion used 221,000 kwh of electricity in 2006, more than 20 times the national average of 10,656 kwh.
I heard 10 times, but that's splitting hairs.

The Prairie Chapel Ranch, George W. Bush's home in Crawford, Texas, was designed by Austin architect David Heymann, associate dean for undergraduate programs at the University of Texas School of Architecture. "The 4,000-square-foot house is a model of environmental rectitude". Go figure...

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Re: "Deniers" a pejorative? I think not

You can't declare any year the warmest when the difference in measured temperature is less than the margin of error.
Er, actually you can and the evidence suggests that they do declare year XXXX "the warmest evah" with considerable frequency. It's worth understanding what's going on here. First, it's an average temperature. Note bene "an", not "the" average. There are ever so many different averages: arithmetic, root mean square, median etc. When the "highest temperature evah" is declared, it's the arithmetic mean of a mixture of arithmetic means and medians.

Second important point is that the rise is almost entirely due to overnight temperatures in winter and mostly where temperature recordings are sparse. Quite how that's causing the planet to "burn" escapes me.

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Changes in Köppen climate boundary

From Physical Geography Vol 21, issue 1:

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The spatial and temporal variation of the C/D Köppen climate boundary in the central United States is examined for the period 1900 to 1999. Mean January temperature data from the U.S. Historical Climatology Network for 67 sites located between 37°N and 41.5°N latitude and 90°W and 100°W longitude are utilized. The variation of the boundary between the C and D climates (i.e., 26.6°F isoline) is illustrated for the entire 100-year study period and four quarter-century periods, as well as for individual decades (1900s, 1910s, …, 1980s, 1990s). For the quarter-century climatic periods, the latter two (1950 to 1974, 1975 to 1999) had C/D boundaries farther south (implying “colder” winters) compared to the positions for the first two quarter-century periods. The most anomalous feature for the decadal maps is the distinct southerly location of the C/D boundary for the recent decade of the 1970s. Although the C/D boundaries for the decades of the 1980s and 1990s generally are located slightly north of the 100-year overall mean location (implying “warmer” than average winter conditions), several earlier decades (e.g., 1900s, 1920s, 1930s) had even more northerly positions. Therefore, this study does not provide evidence of a trend toward wintertime warming and a northerly migration of the C/D climate boundary within the central United States. [Emphasis mine]

VARIATION OF THE KÖPPEN C/D CLIMATE BOUNDARY IN THE CENTRAL UNITED STATES DURING THE 20TH CENTURY

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Corrigendum

Terry Oke's <Boundary Layer Climates</i> has been reissued in a new edition and now covers the issue of CO2. My bad. I shall acquire a copy and make judgement after reading it.

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Re: "Deniers" a pejorative? I think not

Arctic Ocean is cooling -- and so the Arctic ice sheet isn't so small these days? The photos are doctored by evil henchmen?
You might wish to read what NASA has to say. Summarised:

1. Eight times during the ~30 years of satellite monitoring, the ice sheet has been broken up by summer storms.

2. The wind has driven the disintegrated icepack out of the polar circle.

3. Ice is an insulator, so heat can escape the now open ocean, warming the atmosphere by convection and radiation.

4. When heat leaves, whatever it's leaving cools, in this case the ocean and this is corroborated by in situ temperature measurements..

5. Some of the radiative heat goes straight to space, some is absorbed by molecules of CO2 in the atmosphere. Somewhat more than 50% of this heat is reradiated to space.

6. Heat is exiting the planet via the poles. Not a novel observation in climatology.

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Re: "Lukewarm Lemmings and the Lysenko Larceny" at FauxScienceSlayer

I am assuming Faux Science Slayer is the latest incarnation of amanfromars and as such his incomprehensible witterings are welcome.
Dunno about amanfromars being Faux's sock puppet but incomprehensible is accurate, not to mention incoherent. He does have a website if you find his witterings amusing.

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Re: "Deniers" a pejorative? I think not

How about you please stop posting your total anti-science BS on this technology website instead?
M. C. Peel (Department of Civil and Environmental Engineering (The University of Melbourne, Victoria, Australia), B. L. Finlayson (School of Anthropology, Geography and Environmental Studies, The University of Melbourne, Victoria, Australia), and T. A. McMahon (The University of Melbourne, Victoria, Australia) are the authors of Updated world map of the Köppen-Geiger climate classification published in Hydrology and Earth System Sciences. What precisely makes referring to the work of scientists published in an academic scientific journal "anti-science bullshit"? What makes reading "information" from the NAS and RS preferable to taking undergraduate classes that cover climatology? Do you attain to a degree by reading "information"? When I studied biology, physics and chemistry in the 1960s, was that anti-science too?

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Re: "Deniers" a pejorative? I think not

He is also is causing the polar ice caps to melt.
Well it can't be the Arctic Ocean as that has been cooling for some time. It must be all the hot air Gavin's so well known for :-)

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The proper course of action to take against deniers is a quick public hanging from the nearest tree branch or lamp post.
This is what passes for scientific argument?

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So composting then?
The heat generated in a compost heap is cause by bacteria breaking down cellulose into CO2 and H2O. The chemical process is exactly the same as burning except for it being somewhat slower.

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Re: "Deniers" a pejorative? I think not (@ itzman)

causing the oceans to acidify very noticeably, as proved by many -scientific, peer reviewed- studies.
Acidify: "To make acid or sour. Chem. To convert into an acid by combination with any substance."

The oceans are everywhere pH 8.2. To qualify as acidic, the pH would need to be less than 7. pH greater than 7 is basic. And that's basic chemistry I learnt in secondary school.

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Re: "Deniers" a pejorative? I think not

The basic — and may I repeat that? thanks: "basic, basic, basic, basic" — and irrefutable physics behind the blockage, absorption, and re-radiation of long-wave radiation by large, active molecules such as CO2, CH4, N2O, and the like, and how that blockage and re-radiation warms the troposphere, surface, and ocean in quite easily measurable and quantifiable amounts while concomitantly and measurably cooling the stratosphere, have been well-demonstrated for many decades.
But that is not climate. Climate is the "Condition (of a region or country) in relation to prevailing atmospheric phenomena, as temperature, dryness or humidity, wind, clearness or dullness of sky, etc., esp. as these affect human, animal, or vegetable life."

To which end we have the most widely used climate classification system: Köppen climate classification. Here is the current map.

Please tell me which of these Köppen climate zones have changed over the last century and provide evidence for your assertion. Calling me a "climate denialist" doesn't cut the mustard. Especially since my understanding of climate (obtained at Big School) is that Earth's climates were different 6,000 years ago, 10,000 years ago etc.

Until you provide the evidence I will continue to believe that "Deniers" is a "pejorative" term.

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Facebook hires Hillary Clinton to lead assault on fake news*

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Re: What about the mainstream media?

So, when are we going to get a facility for flagging up fake news in the Daily Mail, or the Daily Express, or even the Guardian?
Er, is one really necessary?

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Say what?

Facebook gives a big thumbs down to fakes and will throw engineers and ideas at to “for as long as it takes to get it right.”
Is that anything like dwarf throwing? Does being thrown at a "to" cause bruising and is it severe or mild? Curious minds...

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Re: Not sharing what tends not to be shared

I have a simpler algorithm, you don't want fake news, don;t read facebook.
I sincerely hope you don't have a patent/copyright on that. It's what I've been doing for quite some time.

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Wetware disruption transforms Microsoft Australia as MD bails

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Vulture South eagerly awaits being digitally transformed.

You shifting to Linux Mint as well?

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Uh-oh! Microsoft has another chatbot – but racism is a no-go for Zo

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Re: How can it not be gamed into saying something sexist, racist, whatever-ist?

That's rather like asking for evidence of how non Christians can become English, Scottish or Welsh Christians.
No it's not! For example, as an Ashkenazim, I have a genetic susceptibility to Bloom Syndrome, Canavan Disease, Cystic Fibrosis, Familial Dysautonomia, Familial Hyperinsulinism, Fanconi Anemia C, Gaucher Disease, Glycogen Storage Disease 1A, Joubert Syndrome 2, Lipoamide Dehydrogenase Deficiency (E3), Maple Syrup Urine Disease 1B, Mucolipidosis IV, Nemaline Myopathy, Niemann-Pick Disease, Spinal Muscular Atrophy, Tay-Sachs Disease, Usher IF, Usher III, Walker Warburg, 3-Phosphoglycerate Dehydrogenase Deficiency, Abetalipoproteinemia, Alport Syndrome, Autosomal Recessive Arthrogryposis, Mental Retardation and Seizures, Bardet-Biedl Syndrome, Carnitine Palmitoyltransferase ll Deficiency, Congenital megakaryocytic Thrombocytopenia, Congenital Disorder of Glycosylation la, Dyskeratosis Congenita, Autosomal Recessive Ehlers-Danlos VllC, Fragile X Syndrome, Galactosemia, Multiple Sulphatase Deficiency, Polycystic Kidney Disease, Autosomal Recessive Retinitis Pigmentosa 59, Smith-Lemli-Opitz Syndrome, Tyrosinemia l, Wilson Disease, and (deep breath) Zellweger Syndrome.

If an Englishman, Scot or Welshman converts to Judaism, they do not suddenly develop these susceptibilities. Nor can an Ashkenazim reduce the risk factor by becoming a Christian, a Buddhist, or an atheist. It is estimated that nearly 1 in 3 Ashkenazi Jews in the US is a carrier of at least one of the above Jewish genetic diseases and preconception screening is now commonplace.

I suspect that converts to Judaism are glad they do not thereby become susceptible.

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Re: How can it not be gamed into saying something sexist, racist, whatever-ist?

Jews are a religion not a race
My father was an Ashkenazy and a Roman Catholic. That is, he was a Jew with a non-Jewish religion. You appear to be claiming this is impossible. If you have any evidence that non-Jews can be recruited into becoming Ashkenazy, Sephardi or Levite, please present it. You might also want to explain why there are genetic differences between these Jewish groups and how recruitment causes these differences.

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Re: forging an emotional connecti

Like that 60s pop group from California, the Beach Sperms.
Pah! They were nothing compared to Captain Goodvibes! Who could forget such songs as Born Dead, or Drivel Of Babylon?

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Re: How can it not be gamed into saying something sexist, racist, whatever-ist?

Anti-Semitic, yes, but not anything actually racist. nb - Jews (just like say Muslims and Christians) are a religion and not a race.
Semites are the Jewish and Arab races. Anti-semitic means anti-Jewish and anti-Arab. How is that "not anything actually racist"?

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Microsoft has been working on forging an emotional connection between people and bots
Presumably the "bots" being Microserfs. Of course many of us were singularly unimpressed by the "emotional connection" forged by repeated forced downloads of w10.

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Is your Windows 10, 8 PC falling off the 'net? Microsoft doesn't care

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Re: Has anyone run Wireshark...

Honestly intrigued by the downvotes on this. Normally, I couldn't care less what the average commentard thinks, but in this case it's a pretty non-controversial statement to attract 4 downers.
Welcome to the new El Reg. At least the post hasn't been deleted by the moderators. Yet...

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Re: A New Record!

Oh yeah. Switch to Linux.
Your advice is a tad late in coming, but have an upvote anyway ;-)

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Nearly 18 months ago...

... The Git swore he would never have anything to do with w10 again. The stove he loves almost as much as the food cooked thereon needed repair. The manufacturer (Thermo Rossi) is in Italy, the nearest repairman is 4,129.8 km away. Fortunately, The Git's friend Tony has manufactured two tiny replacement rollers for the malfunctioning oven door.

Unfortunately, payment was: "Can you fix my daughter's laptop computer?" W10 was shite when I briefly looked at it over a year ago and it's still shite. I did manage to get boot-time down from five minutes to 30 seconds. But I feel disgusted rather than elated.

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Re: Reboot pray repeat

The cost is part of a new PC or an Enterprise licence
Or in The Git's case, the cost of all his Internet bandwidth, fixed and mobile, caused by several unwanted pushed downloads from MS.

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Re: @Wade Burchette, re: Intelligence vs Wisdom.

Game shows are carefully designed to NOT show up the contestants and always include a number of simple/easy questions.
Clearly you have never watched Hard Quiz. It’s great fun to hear Gleeson say, "You were really hopeless just then, weren’t you? You should have chosen a topic you knew something about. Now get out of here!"

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Re: @Wade Burchette, re: Intelligence vs Wisdom.

trivia game show guests would be geniuses... and they definitely aren't.
Like Barry Jones? Back in the 1960s "he famously claimed that, in the future, there would be more computers than cars in Tasmania. Nationwide, people responded with laughter and ridicule. Australians thought the claim was absurd and nonsense." What an idiot!

Disclaimer: Jones taught the teacher who taught me critical thinking in 1968.

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Poor software design led to second £1m Army spy drone crash

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An Army Watchkeeper drone flown by the Royal Artillery crashed on landing
Er, isn't that what artillery's for? Sending a projectile through the air that crashes and explodes on landing (preferably nearer to the enemy than yourself). Perhaps they need someone whose expertise includes landing without exploding.

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It's now illegal in the US to punish customers for posting bad web reviews

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Re: Trump will revoke that law

There will be no negative reviews allowed of Trump.
So Trump is a manufactured product! I will be vindicated...

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Blue sky basic income thinking is b****cks

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Re: Er..

I don't see any evidence that jobs are being created to fill the gap left by automation. One can only keep a few baristas employed in a given area.
OTOH in Hobart a prostitute can be had for less than half the price being charged a decade ago going by their adverts in The Mercury. Looks like the number employed in that industry has swollen.

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Re: idleness

We need to provide training classes for those willing to do them. It can be exciting to learn new skills and to do volunteering jobs.
I had friends teaching secondary school students in the 70s who taught their working class students relevant skills they would need when they left school. Boy, did they get into trouble for doing that!

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I am not too sure people are willing to be submitted to a fully robotic doctor.
But would a robotic doctor forget to administer anaesthetic and tell you: "I was distracted!"?

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Re: Mixed feelings

Controversial but how about paying them to do state sponsored work
Slavery works well in the USA:
[prisoners] can be forced to work under threat of punishment as severe as solitary confinement. Legally, this labor may be totally uncompensated; more typically inmates are paid meagerly—as little as two cents per hour—for their full-time work in the fields, manufacturing warehouses, or kitchens.

American Slavery, Reinvented

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Re: Mixed feelings

What about the sort of smart clothing one might require for a job interview?
Mrs Git purchases most of her clothes from Op Shops and looks very smart indeed. Typically she pays $5-10 for items that cost north of $100 new.

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Re: Mixed feelings

These are the people who choose to have a kid, get a council house/housing benefit, and live on what the state provides. This is completely unacceptable, as it means other people are working to support them in their idleness.
So we need to force those who would wish to be idle to work so they can displace those in work, forcing them to be idle. IOW maximise unhappiness/discontent. Why?

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Apple ordered to cough up $2m to store workers after denying rest breaks

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Re: Should the courts hold an entire huge company...

you must of missed when apple got rid of it's dealers and franchises when it open up the apple stores in the US.
Indeed, I must "of". For some reason events in LALALand have little relevance to those of us Living the Good Life in southern Tasmania.

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Re: Should the courts hold an entire huge company...

Jerry Pournelle is also a science-fction writer of some fame.
The Mote in God's Eye is my favourite novel of his.

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Re: This:

21 THOUSAND workers at ONE store in the last 9 years?????????????
Those long queues outside the store for product launches had to come from somewhere ;-)

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Re: Should the courts hold an entire huge company...

This case is in California USA were they do not do franchise.
These many long years ago, Jerry Pournelle of Byte fame (Chaos Manor*) had an Apple computer that generated an error message. On contacting Apple, he was told he had to go to the supplier of the computer for assistance. When he told the fruity firm's representative: "That's you", he was told he could only get support from an Apple franchisee. (The nearest was several hours drive away IIRC). Things must have changed in the intervening decades.

* Chaos Manor is in Studio City and last time I checked that's still in Los Angeles, California.

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Re: Should the courts hold an entire huge company...

Last time I checked apple does not do franchises .
Oh yes they do. In Hobart, Tasmania at least. And for many years a monopoly franchise what's more.

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Riddle me this: What's green and freezes cloudy penguins?

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use all of its other features to mange [sic] Linux backups.
Why would you want something to eat your backups?

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EU dings Sony, Panasonic over rechargeable battery cartel

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Re: covered lithium iron batteries used in mobile phones

Hopefuly lithium ion batteries will fair better !!!
Not fair of me perhaps, but fare better might be a better way to phrase that :-)

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HPE 3PAR storage SNAFU takes Australian Tax Office offline

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We understand this is the first time this problem has been encountered anywhere in the world...
Nope. I never heard of an untested backup failing either? Ever...

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Nice NBN rival you built there. What a shame if someone taxed it

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Re: User pays?

Or maybe you live there because you don't give a ... about "necessities" of "civilized" life.
Franklin has two gourmet restaurants, a wine and cider bar that also serves food, a gourmet fish and chippie, two pubs for them that prefers counter meals, a post office, a hairdresser, a ships chandler, a wooden boat building school, a river with lots of fish, and the bowls club has a bar as well. I couldn't wish for better company than the local denizens and I can certainly live with the nearest supermarket and the gourmet Japanese restaurant being 10 minutes drive away.

You townies sure are good for a laugh :-)

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