* Posts by LucreLout

3039 publicly visible posts • joined 30 Jun 2014

Keep your hands on the f*cking wheel! New Tesla update like being taught to drive by your dad

LucreLout

Re: Auto-crash-pilot

What kind of prat waits for the car to decide? This is exactly the kind of complacency that is the problem.

Quite. I wonder if overriding the Autopilot incurs some form of extra charge to own the vehicle, because I can;t for the lfie of me understand why the human is giving the system priority when they can see a hazard developing they ought to be getting involved in the game without delay.

So you applied the brake not the Autopilot. Did the world end? Were kittens/puppys/bunnies exploded at the road side? Has it broken your car? No, so WTF were you waiting for?

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Re: Sigh ...

Continuing this pretence that drivers have to always be prepared to take control

The vast vast majority of drivers in the UK are hopeless. Utterly woeful, and frankly, unsafe. That will, statistically, include most people reading this. the idea that such low skilled drivers would be capable of correcting something the car has started doing, say swerving, is fanciful - they'll over correct and end up in a hedge. That presumes they're sober/awake/alert enough to realise something needs correcting.

It'd be nice if we had a realistic driving test that was difficult to pass, then regular retesting. Most people never progress beyond the very basic L test in terms of driving, so we really do need to make sure they haven't regressed too far from that point over the next, say, 50-60 years.

Scrapping Brit cap on nurses, doctors means more room for IT folk

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The CBI thinks

The extremely pro-EU hard remain CBI? One can only marvel at why they might not have a positive view of Brexit. They're frightened that some Brexiteers might have voted due to concerns over immigration, and their cheap staff tap could get turned off, nothing more.

As it happens, I really can't see Brexit reducing immigration - we're still going to need as many skilled workers as we do now and we still don't have a plan to force Brits to upskill.

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where, lets be honest, most of the xenophobes who voted Leave have the problem with in the first place

*yawn*

You lost the debate and then you lost the vote. Get over it.

Many Leavers voted leave for reasons wholly disconnected with immigration. Me, for instance. It was all about the economics and ability to do our own trade deals for me, and nothing to do with immigrants, of whom my wife is one. The facts don't fit your narrative very well, do they?

If you can't conduct yourself in a grown up manner without insulting everyone who disagreed with you, even when that is most of the country, then can you please keep your hackneyed hard of thinking opinions to yourself?

Voting to leave the EU does not make anyone a racist. It does not make anyone a xenophobe. And it most assuredly does not mean they didn't understand what they were voting for. Capiche?

That was quick: Seattle rushes to kill tax that would mildly inconvenience Amazon

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Re: The last tax didn't do any good.

Move? To what city/state would you suggest? Is there any city/state that isn't run by idiots?

Singapore.

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Re: If there's a housing crisis...

To be fair you can't blame Amazon as such, but introducing the tax would have been an interesting experiment in deterring the sort of jobs that push up property demand and prices, and if it didn't they'd have at least made a move on either getting more money for social housing or social care.

There's quite a significant economic flaw with that line of argument. Those in the best paying jobs are those best able to adapt to market conditions, or are otherwise brighter or harder working than those not in them, according to conventional economics.

If you remove those jobs, those people will out compete those in the tier of work below them, forcing everyone else down a step on the ladder. You don't have fewer people or more buildings. The price may fall, but it will be the same people able to afford them on the new lower salaries all round.

The only answer to any perceived price problem with housing is to have more houses or fewer people. You can either build more property, or reduce population increase by lowering immigration or the birth rate; neither is universally politically popular. And that leads us on to the subdivision problem where a house gets turned into two flats, or a large flat into two small flats etc.... which is where places like London find themselves. It increases the price of the remaining houses or large flats because there are fewer of them, forcing people to move out to the suburbs and commute in, while migitating some of the small flat demand, leading to developers not wanting to build more.

New York State is trying to ban 'deepfakes' and Hollywood isn't happy

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.....and what of the mouse?

Entertainment companies like Disney, NBCUniversal and several others represented by the trade association The Motion Picture Ass. of America (MPAA) have hit back, declaring the bill to be too restrictive to creativity and storytelling

Presumably they'll be happy if I start creating deepfakes of Mickey Mouse doing whatever the hell I like then? No? Hmmm, hypocrisy in action, again.

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Re: Bullshit

Still, lawyers might as well do something for their paycheques.

It'd be for the benefit of all society if they didn't.......

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Re: Fitting justice.

Indeed, the nerve of it, thinking we have the right to our own images! It's much more important that wankers with poor imaginations can still get off.

LOL!! Upvoted because its the funniest comment I've read all morning.

Tesla undecimates its workforce but Elon insists everything's absolutely fine

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Re: Easy fix make more flamethrowers

So his Boring company sold 20k limited run of flamethrowers to fund his tunneling startup.

I know lots of people on here don't like the man, but making a simple popular product with the staff, materials, and skills you have in order to find what you want the company to really do, is quite a clever way to fund your startup. Worst case, you restructure and spin out the inadvertently more successful flamethrower startup.

Obviously that ignores the difficulty in achieving the simple popular product step, given that most companies fail in the first 12 months....

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Re: Why not just switch the batteries

Then you have the fire hazard issues of a warehouse full of on-charge aging Li-Ion cells in every service station, getting planning permission for those all over the country might be tricky.

Petrol stations seem to have managed it, so I don't agree that planning permission will be an obstacle.

The rest of your post I agree with.

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Re: Oracle got there first

Many big American firms can the lowest 5-10 percent of their workforce each year.

It's not just American firms that do this. It's reasonably common in the City - many of my employers have used the 20-70-10 system: The top 20% get a pay rise, the next 70% get nothing but keep their jobs, and the lower 10% you fire, all based on that years performance review.

To be honest, even when I tried hard to get into the 10% because I wanted a payoff it was really quite hard to achieve, so hard in fact I couldn't make it stick.

Low AI rollout caused by dumb, fashion-victim management – Gartner

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Re: Over-hyped, over-paid and over here

Charging a car at a garage takes a long time

It does.

However, if I'm on a long trip and stopping to eat, then its more or less manageable. If I'm on my commute, I can charge up overnight (off road parking).

especially if you have to wait for other people to charge theirs first

That, for me, is the real problem. A 45 min charge when I'm on a long trip is fine, unless I'm second or worse in a queue, then its not.

An electric car doesn't solve my commuter problem because the main issue is traffic and moronic driving on the part of others. All others, it seems. Full autonomous might solve that problem if I could trust it and retrofit the car with a desk and a bed instead of seats.

What's far more interesting to me is the range of electric motorbikes coming on line - these could be a real option for me, but I'm still not convinced surviving to retirement is of sufficiently great odds commuting to and through London every day.

Youth crime falls as kids stay inside to play Grand Theft Auto instead of going out to steal cars

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Re: Obesity, Diabetes Type II and so on

What's wrong with wearing the easiest and comfiest clothes when outdoors? I'm ugly anyway, putting on some uncomfortable but pretty clothes isn't gonna help. So I might as well be comfortable.

LOL! I wish I could upvote you more than once, I really do....

LucreLout

Re: What a strange study

Unfortunately the elephant in the room has grown much too large to be handled and just like the corrupt banksters of 2008 they are too big to jail.

Society needs banks. Its an unfortunate fact of life, but it is a fact, however much it may be disliked. I've yet to see any particular reason why society needs social media - the modern economy works perfectly fine without it, as did society. Its nought more than an unhelpful distraction, so quite clearly it could be banned with limited if any downsides. Not, of course, that I am in favour of banning things - just saying that banks and social media are at polar opposites of the worlds needs spectrum.

The hits keep coming for Facebook: Web giant made 14m people's private posts public

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Re: Yeah yeah yeah yeah, but everything is ok - really...

Why? Because Zuk & Crew apologized. So there, that fixed it - FFS!

In order to be fixed, something must first be broken. Farcebook are unlikely to consider compromising your privacy as something being broken; it's basically the core of their business model.

Learn about you and sell data driven access to you directly to ad slingers, with occasional bouts of giving away your actual data tossed in for shits & giggles.

WannaCry reverse-engineer Marcus Hutchins hit with fresh charges

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Re: Some poeple accept their duty

You shouldnt have to pay the rich more to do their civic duty.

People aren't being paid more or less, they're being recompensed for lost earnings, nothing more. Nobody gains, nobody loses, everyone has what they would have had if they'd gone about a normal day without attending court to provide a civic duty.

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Re: Some poeple accept their duty

Just because I'm not earning or on benefits doesn't mean my time is any less precious to me

No, but it does mean its a lot less precious to society. Sorry, but it just does. A persons time is worth whatever they can sell it for at the time. I know that will sound harsh, and perhaps it is, but that is just economic reality.

Each juror is doing the same job and deserve equal pay for an equal job done.

It's not a job, its a duty. The job is the thing the juror isn't doing while doing their duty, which is why compensation levels should be expected to vary such that each juror is equally not out of pocket in doing said duty.

The idea that all jurors do an equal job is demonstrably untrue - they will each bring differing levels of intelligence, experience, aptitude, and application to the task. As its not a job, doing so will not bring greater reward, but equally it should not cost a juror more in lost earnings than the one next to them - each should be compensated for their time at their individual prevailing rate. If your rate is zero, well, you weren't really doing anything of monetary value with the time anyway.

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Re: FFS! It's obvious he's just a bargaining chip and nothing more!

When Marcus gets released in maybe 18 months time

I'm not sure that's a safe assumption to make. Their justice system has been itching to get its hands on a British hacker, but thanks to all the last minute Asbergers/Suicidal diagnosis, we've been declining to send them one. Now they have one, why let him go?

Unfortunately for Hutchins, I can readily see him being made an example of.

LucreLout

Re: Some poeple accept their duty

My point being if jury service is mandatory then each juror should be paid an equal amount.

Why? Do they incur an equal loss of earnings or prospects? Are their travel costs always the same?

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Do you want to be judged on a complex, technical subject by people for whom $50 a day is a pay increase?

It's not much better when you pay much larger sums. I've been interviewing for 4 weeks and all I'm looking for is someone that understands basic OOP techniques, TDD, GoF, and a few other things. So far nobody has made it through a basic phone screen, and we're talking people with > 1 decade of continuous work experience on their CV. Frankly, the state of our industry embarrasses me.

Regardless of country, I think as soon as a technical understanding is required to interpret the evidence, the prospect of a fair & reasoned trial goes out the window, in favour of whatever the jury 'feel', which is both dangerous and unhelpful.

Hmmm, we can already seize your stuff, so why can't we shoot down your drone, officials mull

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Re: Range

Try swapping ISIS for "militia of good ol' boys", and I think you'll see the potential problem?

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Re: I would have done a full rant, but why waste the effort.

Personally, I'm not worried about grenades since you can kill more people at once with a rental van than you can with a grenade.

Sure, but it only takes say 3 or 4 seconds to lob a grenade - how many rental vans can you drive in say 30 seconds?

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Re: I would have done a full rant, but why waste the effort.

You'd have to work out a mechanism for it to drop the grenade and pull the pin.

Surely this is simply an electromagnet and a decent solenoid, with a bit of wire on the end?

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Re: I would have done a full rant, but why waste the effort.

For anyone that say's you can't, just check YouTube. One of the people I track has done all this on the cheap.

Care to share who? Not so I can SWAT them, or because I don't believe you, but finding a source on youtube is easy, finding a good one isn't, and I'd be interested to learn more from a credible source.

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Re: I call bollocks

More reliable than throwing a tennis ball over the wall anyway.

Just bribe a guard.... everyone else does.

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Re: I call bollocks

Considering the VAST quantities of drugs involved in a standard shipment into the US, the quantities of drugs available to be carried on a drone would NOT make that economical...

If only drones were scalable or even automatable...... "hang on lads, I've got a great idea".

Automation won’t take your job until the next recession threatens it

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The corporations are sneaky. I'm sure they'll lobby hard to ensure that they get everything and the people get nothing.

Which is why the peoples best defence is a good offence - buy shares in the sneaky corporations to ensure the people do see the benefit. All shares somewhere down the line are owned by real people, thus all fiscal benefit a company produces accrues to real people.

Its completely illogical to choose to live in a capitalist country (even France still qualifies, just) and not take the opportunity to buy a stake in its prosperity.

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Re: RE "shhhhh! You'll upset the communists dismissing their dream....."

It's my dream too. The sooner we can offload the graft on to the machines and get on with our lives of leisure the better

Sadly, that day will never come. Unless, of course, you mean "The sooner we can offload the graft on to the millennials and get on with our retirements the better", in which case I hope you have a stonking pension accrued, otherwise that too ain't ever going to happen.

Any transition away from work requires a transition away from wealth (people will not be paid to do nothing - who would do the paying?). You can bet your bottom dollar that the transition will be bloody, and that things will get worse (properly worse) before they get better. The end game looks appealing, but the transition will be horrific for all involved. I personally don't want to be around when the transition begins....

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Article is missing the obvious....

“Our current era of mobile tech doesn’t measure up to the radical 1990s,” he said, as shown by the fact that productivity gains appear to have stalled for a decade or more.

I'm not sure that's technologys fault. For reasons that remain unclear, whenever the productivity problem is discussed, it gets pinned onto the financial crisis, when its far more likely caused by the Millennials entering the workforce and not being robust or skilled enough to perform.

“Even with the most generous assessment of mis-measurement we cannot explain the slowdown in productivity since the mid-2000s.”

Again, the clue is in the skinny jeans, comedy hair, and excessive sensitivity & emotion.

Anyway, the article misses the point - there will be a 10-15 year lead time for white collar roles to be replaced with AI, AFTER we can produce an AI that can handle the tasks; We're not there yet. Cutting code is only one part of being a developer, the main part, sure, but there's the other stuff such as interpreting vague requirements, knowing what the spec doesn't state, etc etc. The same applies for other roles - accountants and solicitors both attempt to interpret the law in ways their principle finds most beneficial, rather than simply follow rules.

Once we have the tech working properly, there comes the cost of scale issue - spending billions developing the AI will make it initially very expensive to use, meaning its cheaper to stick with fleshy staff. Eventually that cost comes down and role decimation follows, but we're at leats decades away from any threat there.

Boomers and Gen X will be retired, and the Millennials will have to figure out how to respond to it, but that's no different to the role evolution previous generations have adapted to and overcome - 25 years ago many roles that seem ubiquitous today didn't exist and were not readily forseeable.

TSB meltdown latest: Facepalming reaches critical mass as Brits get strangers' bank letters

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I seriously cannot see how they can get out of this mess, I know they have to somehow (they are a bank)

Ok, up front, I work for a bank - I've never made any secret of that.

I question the whole idea of TSB surviving. Surely it has reached the point where they are going to be overwhelmed with compensation cases, fines, and customers fleeing just as soon as allowable, and with such reputational damage, that survival becomes uneconomic?

Would it not be simpler to shutter the lot, and novate customer credit balances to other providers? I realise that means they have to figure out how to associate an account with a person correctly, but if you scrape away their web tiers etc and only looked at the core mainframe (it will be) data, you could do this quite quickly.

Banks should have been allowed to fail. Quite why labour ever bailed them out is a mystery to most of the industry - yes contagion had to be stopped, but crippling lloyds with the rotting remnants of RBS didn't really achieve that.

Let TSB go - its already dead it just hasn't realised yet.

LucreLout

Re: Hi kids

Tomorrows lesson is percentages and we're going to start at 4%

I've been wondering about that. I mean, lets assume the ICO actually grow a pair and start using their powers.... Surely this is an incentive to restructure every pan-European company into seperate entities? TSB is UK only, so fines would be capped at 4%. Someone like, say Farcebook, is pan-European, so could be fined 4% in each legal jurisdiction, which adds up to rather a lot more.

Obviously, that'd only be relevant, as I said, if the ICO actually started to do their jobs instead of simply existing to protect corporate law breakers from robust legal action.

As Tesla hits speed bump after speed bump, Elon Musk loses his mind in anti-media rant

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Re: unexpected honesty

Given the major stories each one has broken and the work that went into producing each one, the Grauniad and the Heil aren't exactly equivalent...

https://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/11/27/guardian_use_me_as_a_mouthpiece/

Oh yes they are. They're two sides of the same coin, which is why I read neither. The funny part is though, that groaners refuse to see it.

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Re: unexpected honesty

But Musk is right that journalists have lost the respect of the public.

Yes, he is. The Millie Dowler debacle finished any possible claim to being a respectable or serious profession that journalism may once have held. Journalists rank somewhere between MPs and Lawyers in terms of respect or trust, and the only thing lower than those is Estate Agent.

London's Met Police: We won't use facial recognition at Notting Hill Carnival

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Just like your assumption that Stab Fest 2018 will be committed by black people.

Maybe it will, maybe it won't, but I think given this years stats for London, we can say most of those stabbed will probably be young black men. Having lived in London for about 20 years, I can't remember a single year when most of the carnivals stabbing victims weren't young black men.

The carnival causes a spike in stabbings and rapes every time it is held. Any other event triggering as much violent crime and disorder would have long ago been banned. It does raise the question of why this event is allowed to persist when others would not be.

UK.gov's use of black box algorithms to decide stuff needs watching

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Re: This story reads like a horror movie

"As a result, the algorithmic decision may disproportionately discriminate against certain groups, and are as unacceptable as any existing "human" discrimination."

Yes, see I read the paragraph you've identified as meaning "The algorithm might forget to incorporate any of the stupid racist/sexist 'positive' discrimination we've spent decades trying to enforce". Positive discrimination being much like an HIV test - you really don't want a positive result.

Hitler 'is dead' declares French prof who gazed at dictator's nashers

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Re: Um… Why?

And do people who voted for Trump, or for Farage, ever wonder how someone like Hitler could ever have gotten into power?

Farrage was mostly voted for by labour voters, at least until the referendum result came in, and 1984 is also based around an imagined future labour government, so I'd say the evidence is pretty clear: You create a client state (those on welfar or in public sector roles) who depend on you financially, you then stimulate them to vote for you by paying them more, and eventually seize power.

You know me, I don't know you: Hospital reportedly raps staff for peeking at Ed Sheeran data

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Re: Makes me wonder how much of this goes on at police stations

Makes me wonder how much of this goes on at police stations

There must be a lot of temptation there.

My only source for this is a friend who is a serving officer.

Access is logged and auditted regularly. You can be questionned about your access to records and need to be able to show they relate to an active investigation. Penalties for violations can be rather severe. That, of course, is not to say that it doesn't happen, but if detected it is always dealt with harshly (and quite rightly so).

'Facebook takes data from my phone – but I don't have an account!'

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3 more days people

Then we can have at them with the GDPR fine backed subject access requests.

Pretty please, whether you have an account with them or not, send a request on GDPR day and lets sink them under the weight of fines and paperwork.

NASA fix for Curiosity rovers's damaged drill: hitting it, repeatedly

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Re: There is nothing like:

Hopefully the next robot will have an on-board supply of gaffer tape.

As anyone who has done any motorsport will tell you, you need two things in the emergency tool kit:

Gaffer tape - for when it moves and shouldn't.

WD40 - for when it should move and doesn't.

Lets send the next one properly prepared.

HMRC opens consultation to crack down on off-payroll working in private sector

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Reduce taxes

If taxes were lower, people wouldn't avoid them. The laffer curve in action. Since we're at the peak already, either the government learn to live within their means and existing income, or the only option is to reduce taxes (and so spending) to try to stimulate the economy to grow. Taking more tax at this position on the curve is counter productive.

I already avoid income taxes, not by being a contractor, but by taking a pay cut and reducing my hours. I dropped between 10 - 20 hours a week, but only lost 1/8th of the money in my pocket. I'm just not willing to work more for the government to take half of everything I earn - why should I? If I'm going to put in 100% of the effort, why would I want just 50% of the gains? (Its less when you consider the impact of TFE withdrawal making the effective tax rate as high as 65%).

If I'm going to start working any further hours then it'll have to be as a contractor to reduce my tax payments. No matter which party gets elected, I'm not paying any more than I already am. Sorry.

LucreLout

And taxation is certainly not slavery. Nobody's forcing you to work.

A fact which is its own elephant sized problem at the heart of the welfare state.

US Congress mulls expanding copyright yet again – to 144 years

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Re: As many have observed

That could actually work. Copyright extends after the author's death by half the age of the author at death. So, write a novel at 99, die at 100, copyright lasts another 50 years. Write a novel at 19, die at 30, copyright lasts another 15 years.

I've upvoted you because I really like the idea. My only concern would become the potentially grotesque practice of prolonging 'life' via machines to ensure the family creative reaches a (literally) ripe old age, thus ensuring the royalties last as long as possible.

Don't mind the smell, thats great great great grandad - he's mostly liquified by now, but legally alive.

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Re: Next act will be titled: "To infinity - and beyond!"

You know owns the copyright on the images? Francis Frith company, even though my own ancestor made all those trips with his bulky plate camera all over the UK, took incredible photos I have no say in how they're used as someone else owns the rights to them and controls their use. I know they still see, I've seen them being used but I don't see a penny of that.

Sure, but it would seem your ancestor sold the image rights or was otherwise contracted for their creation via wages or other means. My forefathers variously dug the mines, battered the Germans, or built and installed industrial heating or cooling equipment, all for someone elses company. It conveys no right for me to start tolling their use now.

Without copyright protections extended people lose out on cashing in on their ancestors legacies, however with copyright extended others retain control over works that should by rights be handed down to the decendents of those who should have ownership.

If the person that did the work was paid for it or sold their on going rights, then why would they pass to the decendents? Logically the rights have transferred ownership in some form of commercial transaction, which should be honoured.

That said, and despite my previous post regarding passing down wealth, I generally don't believe in inherited wealth. Everyone should make their own way in the world, instead of relying on the efforts fo the dead or the efforts of the rest of us.

LucreLout

Re: Copyright, Patents all screwed.

Life + 50? Why?

Well, if you're in your latter stages of life, you might want to protect your good idea for your families benefit after you're gone. Otherwise copyright would simply be issued to the youngest relative in the family, achieving the same thing for the creators family, but immediately depriving the creator of control of their work while alive.

I might write a book. At 40+ at least half my life is gone (I'm Northern, so 40 is to us is like 60 in Kent). It would make sense to register copyright in my kids names rather than in my own.

Not everyone who seeks to pass on some of their earnings to their children produces drug fulled trust fund babies, or even trust funds at all. People who have earned their money have every right to pass it on to their children upon death, or before, should they so choose. Given that it is inordinately difficult to pass wealth down beyond the 3rd generation after it is acquired, this hardly seems a problem for state intervention; most of the inherited-enough-wealth-not-to-work brigade squander it because they have no idea how money, commerce, or real life work.

Agile development exposed as techie superstition

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Re: Agile is b*llocks. Any non-idiot knows this.

As 'using the cloud' is nothing more than putting your balls in someone else's vice and hoping they know which way to twist the handle, Agile is relying on meaningless ritual and mantras rather than on your own intelligence.

Entertaining.

Using the cloud is just using other peoples computers, hopefully everyone sees this and understands the risks. So how the hell has it gotten so popular? Well, from a developers perspective, the on prem servers are other peoples computers - they belong to networks/ops/whatever your business calls them this week. Getting access to them is all too frequently painful, involves lots of paperwork, and takes a disproportionate amount of time. Getting more servers in the cloud is trivial. Which, I'm guessing is why so many devs find the concept so appealing. Note ye rash downvoters, that I'm not suggesting its a flawless plan from the companies perspective and certainly not over time. These are, after all, other peoples computers which now hold all of your data.

Agile is just a means of managing code production. The best bit about it, is that management types expect push back, or scrolling deadlines as the spec changes. What they no longer expect is a deadline to be fixed, with a fixed resource budget, and a spec to be fluid. All that does is kill the developers social life. Waterfall doesn't work - we've known that for more than 20 years. I'm not suggesting Agile is brilliant either, but its less disruptive to my social life than waterfall was. Just ignore the ceremonies, sermons etc and crack on. Its easier to get the PHBs to focus on one small thing at a time, rather than understand the whole of their business process and be able to coherently model that in a way that can then be implemented.

UK has rejected over 1,000 skilled IT bod visa applications this year

LucreLout

How about we pay teachers a salary that allows them to teach kids to a higher standard because they are of a higher standard themselves?

The problem wiht that is that if we have monkeys because we're paying peanuts, then unless we first fire the monkeys before increasing slaries, then we just have the same monkeys but now they're expensive.

That folks, is just an economic fact. People do not become more skilled because they are better remunerated, the money follows the upskilling.

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Re: Priorities

Sorry you can't recruit the people you need, but our aspiration to make Britain an economically successful global centre of technology and innovation is much less important than the need to reduce net migration to the tens of thousands in order to pander to our voters who don't like foreigners coming here,

Yours cynically,

The Conservative Party

And yet many, maybe even most, leavers were labour voters. You can see that in the boost labour got when ukip collapsed. Most of the "gammon faced kippers" were actually lefty snowflakes before the referendum got going.

The north voted massively in favour of leaving, yet is mostly red or dead in terms of MPs. Thus, immigration is not a Conservative problem specifically, but it is a real issue for labour. Their london champagne socialists love it, but their unionised Northern muscle and power base hate it.

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Why would young people want to train for a field that they can be quite sure that the entire field will be outsourced well before they can retire from that line of work, let alone a particular company?

Its not just young people it affects. I have 15, maybe 20 year max before reitrement (depending on political buggering), and I'm far from certain that there will be enough work long enough. Coupled with rampant agesims, its not an attractive mix.

Of particular issue is that millennials thinking about going into coding can see their parents falling victim to ageism, offshoring, and visa imports, so they have a full knkowledge of how long they can expects a career to last. Or, you know, just do something else instead.

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Re: @AC Use local

I’m ok with immigration to fill a void but a lot of this is to subdue wages.

It is almost entirely intended to subdue wages. Lawyers don't like the fact that IT is a higher paying profession requiring greater skills and more rapid continuous professional development than their own industry.

They've spent hundred of years entrenching their position with a view to protecting their income, and they deeply resent that IT has surpassed them in terms of relative importance and payscales. And most of the government, regardless of party, is lawyers or heavily influenced by them.