Re: Maybe a site of links needs a far simpler setup?
"report in anther place"
Dammit. That's the sort of typo you make when you're a botanist, particularly when you have a speciality in pollen analysis.
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The woke cancel culture is pretty well the same thing, inciting a crowd to howl down a street-corner speaker they don't like, even if the speaker has simply failed to catch up with the latest twists of snowflake vocabulary.
Let's put the blame on the common thread: group-think.
"Social media have shot themselves in the foot by colluding to ban Trump, en mass the way they have."
A set of closely linked events, some illegal, raised public revulsion. Associated businesses made decisions on some any or all of various considerations arising from it: PR, risk of criminal liability and moral grounds. AFAICS it's reasonable to expect each to make similar decisions independently when presented with the same situation. If you think collusion is involved where none is needed you should provide evidence; without that you're in conspiracy theory territory.
"the politicians should advise and pass legislation"
I'm not sure if US has specific statute law about conspiracy to commit acts of violence but Common Law will usually do that itself - and the US inherited that from us.
That should be all AWS or any other service provider should need to compel them to throw off any customer who seems to be allowing that to happen, otherwise they'd be apt to find themselves in the dock with the customer and the users responsible.
Back in 1968 there were student demonstrations about one thing or another all over the western world. I don't suppose many of those in Peoples Democracy in Belfast had terrorism in mind but it provided the starting point for years of that and a mob carrying arms and invading the legislature building are considerably further down that line PD ever were.
"These moves by the tech companies are not going to hurt Trump at all. But they are a kick in the nads to the millions of people who supported and voted for him. Those are the potential customers at risk."
How many of Trump supporters are decision makers in real and potential Salesforce customers (a) in the US and (b) in the rest of the world?
"Do the players of big tech really think they have become so indispensable that their customers will silently stand by and do nothing?"
But which customers are you thinking about. Out beyond the US shores lies the majority of our planet and right now many of Salesforce's customers there are looking at Trump's party and forming their own opinions about it. Salesforce is concerned about what these customers might do.
Salesforce, like any multi-national, sells to a wider clientele than the US (yes, USians, you are just a part of this world). If they judge that Trump has tainted the reputation of his party as far as the rest of the world is concerned then disassociating themselves with is is the better overall step.
You'll find they are regulated. If they sell facilities for conspiracy to overthrow the govt., carry out other terrorist acts, etc they are likely to end up in court as accessories. Now do you see why they discontinued that particular client? Not because they aren't regulated but because they are - by the ordinary law of the land.
"60+ judges (many of them Republicans too, some even appointed by Trump)"
Good for the judges but you can't imagine how bad that statement sounds to someone outside the US. The problem is that the political orientation of the judge, together with the fact that they're politically appointed*, is just taken as normal and acceptable.
* The problem with that is with the political nature, not the actual politician.
The job of a court is to interpret generally written law for the circumstances of the case. Where the circumstances aren't those envisaged by the legislators - which is the sort of case that comes before this level of court - then their rulings are guidance as to how other courts should act in similar cases. In general they themselves are guided by previous rulings and by established principles. It's not exactly making stuff up and it's always open to govt. to come along with updated legislation. The sort of clash which could be in the offing arises when the judiciary think the legislators have stepped outside the existing principles. I don't think that happens often but I think we're in danger of seeing it in the UK.
"Whatever is done it must be better that the path to challenging these sort of edicts is shorter when the EU and the ECJ are no longer concerned."
You're probably right. Without supra-national jurisdiction the challenge would be thrown out PDQ.
We have a govt. that's chafed at having to obey international law. They've got rid of as much of that as they can. They've also chafed at UK law and judicial review and have shown indications of wanting to get rid of that.
Did you vote to "take back control?" What you weren't told is that you weren't taking back control. It was the govt and it's you they propose to control.