* Posts by keithpeter

2068 publicly visible posts • joined 14 Jul 2007

JetBrains' unremovable AI assistant meets irresistible outcry

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Childcatcher

Re: Not knowing what words mean

"...accuracy vs precision"

I used to teach that lesson to workshop based vocational students and lab technicians early in the term. Along with Precision's little friend Resolution. And the Error cousins Systematic and Random.

I had a small selection of 'modified' verniers and micrometers. And a slightly distressed top-pan balance. Early in the term because reading scales exposes any perceptual/eyesight/dyslexia issues fairly promptly. And they used the ideas in later practical work.

Went well that one. A lot of concepts in 3 hours.

The Land Before Linux: Let's talk about the Unix desktops

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Pint

Re: Meet the New War....same as the Old War

"Well, you have to right click your App Image program icon in order to select "RUN" in order to lauch the program."

@Jumbotron64

I just downloaded the Inkscape 1.3 appimage. One time only I had to right-click, select Properties and the Permissions tab, and tick the little box that said 'Allow this file to run as a program'. Then I can double-click the icon(*) and start Inkscape forever after.

Strikes me that some kind of user intervention should be needed before running a random downloaded file, but I think perhaps a popup 'set permission' box might be a good idea like on Winders.

* I prefer to make a simple inkscape.desktop file and stick it in ~/.local/share/applications/ myself so that the application appears in the menu and I can add a launcher - but that is probably too much 'twiddly twiddly' by your definition.

Top Linux distros drop fresh beats

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Re: Older hardware.

There was discussion on the Slackware forum about building the older CIP versions of Linux 4.4.x some years ago. The context was in adapting Patrick Volkerding's build scripts though. The final outcome was a build script. The discussion was a bit noisy.

https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/civil-infrastructure-platform-kernel-slackbuild-4175723704/page3.html#post6423285

I got the impression that the CIP kernels are buildable by mortals but may have configs that are unusual and may need work for normal desktop type applications.

The rise and fall of the standard user interface

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Re: First time I have heard of the CUA for decades

"Now I open Firefox or Thunderbird. Where is that familiar menu bar? "

Press ALT.

If you want to keep the menu bar displayed then right click over it and tick the box.

But I take your main point. Chrome / Chromium is a good example of the absence of a menu bar.

Burnout epidemic proves there's too much Rust on the gears of open source

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Re: "Burnout"

@elsergiovolador

dominated: this word choice implies something about the decision making process in projects that requires some evidence I think.

A more general point: In the last half century or so I've noticed a huge change in access to information about what we might describe as IT. It was quite hard to get information in (say) the mid-80s unless you were associated with a university department or you were working for a large organisation, a company or the military or the communications utilities.

Now any kid with a hand-me-down laptop can run powerful software similar to the systems used by the largest corporations and can access full information about the software, often several layers of information even down to the source code.

Seems likely to increase equality in some sense by removing barriers.

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Windows

Re: "Burnout"

A non-rhetorical question: aren't most large open source projects connected with a charity of some kind?

I'm thinking of Debian and SPI.

Icon: me and money are like oil and water.

IBM Consulting is done playing around, orders immediate return to office

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Re: In a previous life

"[...] and I can make sure you are not burning out"

Well done that manager

IBM overhauls rewards program for staff inventions, wipes away cash points

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EF Codd

So under the old system, Ted Codd would have got one point for his well known paper and perhaps another for the book?

Cool.

KDE 6 hits RC-1 while KDE 5 brings fresh spin on OpenBSD

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Slackware KTOWN live iso | OpenBSD

Slackware contributor Alien Bob provides a live iso with KDE 6 beta2 (released late December). Looks nice. Is installable. Can be updated in step with Alien Bob's 'ktown' repository. Read the documentation. Not sure what his release schedule is.

@KWD: I find that xfce4 on OpenBSD 7.4 is OKish after I increased the memory settings for default user in /etc/login.conf. Sometimes a core from the panel or settings component gets dumped in the home directory. This is on crappy old thinkpads with integrated graphics.

Microsoft pulls the plug on WordPad, the world's least favorite text editor

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Re: but not much of a word processor either.

Which is basically what I used Wordpad for but in a work context.

Ideal for quick memos and all.

I used it for longer documents when drafting just the text on my ancient Compaq laptop on the way in on the train (Winders 95 era - no MS Office on that machine). Copy over to Word on the college PC and format to Corporate Standard (complete with the logo that made the resulting file 10 times larger). Good days.

These days I suppose people would use Google Docs or something or install OpenOffice/LibreOffice/OtherOffice.

War of the workstations: How the lowest bidders shaped today's tech landscape

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Re: Survival characteristics

"There's plenty of evidence that PCs did not make managers more productive — quite the opposite, in fact, since dictating correspondence to experienced secretaries and having it produced by a dedicated typing pool is almost always going to be quite a lot faster than writing it in something like Outlook or Word, for example."

I'm just old enough to have worked as a messenger boy in an office where managers would often simply ask the secretary to send a 'hurry up' letter or a 'very sorry' letter for routine communications. These letters were so standard that the secretary just bashed one out on her Selectric and the manager signed it. So yes I take your point for written stuff.

I was more on about the spreadsheet allowing data based challenges to the centralised MIS systems of the 1960s and 1970s. Perhaps because my later working life included that.

I also take your point about productivity decline. I have a feeling that we now measure and attempt to interpret a much larger volume of numerical data than previously simply because we can. I also have a feeling a lot of that data is quite noisy so people are trying to control random fluctuations and that does not work.

Icon: Happy new year all, I'm off out on a slightly less rainy day.

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Re: Survival characteristics

Thanks to Liam Proven for a thought provoking essay which I have just caught up with on a wet Wednesday morning.

I would argue that UNIX had superb and imaginative marketing.

A small group of people in one branch of Bell Labs managed to market their operating system to Bell's bureaucracy very effectively, and through publishing technical reports and papers managed to market their system to Universities in many countries within a matter of years. Joseph Ossanna appears from what I have read to be the kind of genius middle manager you dream of working under, and it was a shame that he died so young.

This observation brings me to a wider point: the changes in organisations that occurred in step with IT capabilities. Those flea-powered 'personal computers' when running Visi-Calc and successors enabled middle managers to argue back to central MIS using evidence. Not to be underestimated, that.

Yes, a LISP machine could have been used in the same way but the 'right cast of mind' referred to in the OA was very rare. Hacking up a bit of a spreadsheet (as many here know to their cost having had to clean up the messes) has a much lower barrier to entry.

CEO arranged his own cybersecurity, with predictable results

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Childcatcher

Re: Customers are the security liability

Which was my point.

Unless the original email's subject line said something like 'don't open this email' you can't really extract any moral from the statistics supplied by the post to which I replied.

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Childcatcher

Re: Customers are the security liability

Interesting. Can you remember what the recipients had to do to 'run' the attachment?

What comes after open source? Bruce Perens is working on it

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Gamification of definitions?

Interesting account.

Contract not licence? So who will provide the remedy for contracts being broken and how enforced? UN Convention on the Law of the Sea(*) model or something like the WTO?

Non-profit? How many different definitions of that are there in the nations of the world? Do those definitions overlap? What arbitrage opportunities do differences in coverage provide?

Paid by contributions monitored through software running on some Website collating issues/commits? How on earth are you going to define the business logic used? What if someone *removes* a few hundred thousand lines of code from a mature and somewhat crufty project? If someone works through a few hundred pages of documentation dotting ies and crossing tees how is their contribution compared to someone else who provides a critical 10 line fix that resolves a show-stopper bug based on decades of experience with obscure race conditions?

This is going to make the ANSI committee process look like a play group.

Icon: briefly middle mngmnt in a UK public sector organisation that had to claim 'formula funding'. Still get flashbacks.

(*) No prizes for guessing which large and powerful maritime nation refuses to ratify.

Windows 12: Savior of PC makers, or just an apology for Windows 11?

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Windows

Re: This is why I abandoned Windows.

"...GIMP is the only program I think I've ever encountered that doesn't let you save a modified file on exit..."

But the unsaved state is caught and I can cancel the exit. Same idea just upside down logic? Sort of like ed with the ? when you q with unsaved changes.

But I agree doing what t'other programs do would help consistency.

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Windows

Re: there's nothing particularly wrong with Windows 11

"[...] as long as that TPM/hardware requirement is met."

Which might be a problem for some public sector/government organisations with large installed estates.

Hopefully a non-ai version of Windows 12 will be available without requiring another forced hardware refresh cycle for client machines that are basically used as dumb terminals to networked databases.

Have a Merry Christmas and a reassuringly calm uneventful new year

Superuser mostly helped IT, until a BSOD saw him invent a farcical fix

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Re: Management material

Google 'school reinspection consultants'

Select a few companies.

Read the 'about us' or 'profiles' bit to see who they are recruiting.

Circular system.

No direct conflict of interest, but...

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Childcatcher

Re: Management material

@Terry and all

Consultants can be hired through helpful firms to help educational institutions in the UK prepare for re-inspection after a bad OFSTED.

Many OFSTED inspectors are hired on a per inspection basis.

Think about it.

Has to stop.

Doom is 30, and so is Windows NT. How far we haven't come

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@sketharaman

"I haven't seen any sensational improvement in their functionality in the last 30 years."

Perhaps not a sensational improvement, but you can have more than 256 columns and 16384 rows in Excel these days. Handy for quick and dirty monte carlo simulations.

Microsoft floats bringing a text editor back to the CLI

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Windows

"[...]giving something a bit of thought."

Agreed.

As to staying on an older version of TeX/LaTeX the thinking has to include the extent to which other people being able to process the .tex files on other systems with different versions(*) is important.

It may not be important to that particular author. I can imagine that an academic working on, say, a 5 or 10 year book project may wish to standardise on an environment, but that would require cooperation from the publisher.

(*) TeX itself is standardised but the various packages (and package availability) change with each release of distributions such as texlive.

Bank's datacenter died after travelling back in time to 1970

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Re: radio ntp

Anthorn in Cumbria

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Re: Yearly tasks....

Smoke alarms start to peep when the battery gets low and then squeal when it gets really low. Perhaps a 'fail loud' modification to critical battery operated equipment?

Small but mighty, 9Front's 'Humanbiologics' is here for the truly curious

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Re: Applications

Not your downvoter but your second sentence sets up a dichotomy that itself constitutes a number of assumptions about the contributors to 9front, not least that there is a collective view of any kind about what the purpose of the project is.

POSIWID might be the safest view.

DevTernity conference collapses amid claims women speakers were faked

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What for?

What are these conferences for exactly?

How does listening to some talks from people working for large IT companies actually benefit you when the content of the talk will presumably have been carefully checked for any significant disclosures of working methods or IP?

I may have completely misunderstood all this but can anyone explain?

OpenCart owner turns air blue after researcher discloses serious vuln

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Trollface

@Andy Nom and all

Might encourage mobs of security testers to pile on and start searching for vulns.

Just to see who can provoke the rudest and most ignorant response.

See icon.

Revival of Medley/Interlisp: Elegant weapon for a more civilized age sharpened up again

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Childcatcher

Alice K Hartley's...

...wikipedia page is worth a look. Joined BBN and did a chunk of Interlisp as one phase in a long career that started with co-authoring a paper on pattern recognition.

Sam Altman set to rejoin OpenAI as CEO – seemingly with Microsoft's blessing

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Childcatcher

Re: Mmmmm

Routine use of old fashioned 'ai' algos is causing some issues already. One example I found recently...

https://www.politico.eu/article/dutch-scandal-serves-as-a-warning-for-europe-over-risks-of-using-algorithms/#

So Horizon writ large and hitting people with low resources.

It strikes me that the 'new' ai might simply allow people to create messes more quickly and more effectively. Especially when some new 'ai' facilities are available from within Microsoft Office. I mean, what could possibly go wrong when Kevin in the Corner with the two monitors turbocharges his wicked spreadsheet model with 'ai'?

CompSci teachers panic as Replit pulls the plug on educational IDE

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"The AI is never going to be able to provide useful feedback to the student on what they did/did not do well or why."

Depends on the depth of the decision tree and the number of routes to a correct solution.

Shallow trees and small number of routes: could be useful. 1 mark yes/no questions can currently be automatically marked. Multiple choice questions can be useful if carefully written (effort at the front end) and the distractors used to trigger useful feedback. Feedback is best served fresh so a bit of a tradeoff on feedback quality in favour of response time seems OK.

Deep trees and combinatorially large number of routes: much harder problem.

feedback on general trends/features often help students as well.

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Not CS but maths

In the UK the national exam in maths taken by most school children at age 16 is called the GCSE. It is available at two levels of difficulty, foundation and higher, with a grade cap on the foundation tier. You can find examples of GCSE maths exam papers on most revision sites[1] together with the exam board marking schemes. Students take three exams each of which is marked out of 80 marks. So marking a complete set of three exam papers requires making 240 decisions. I should explain that these are written exams. With a pen. On paper. And using a ruler and pencil to draw diagrams.

The questions early in the paper are usually worth one mark each and are quick to mark - just tick or cross. In the middle of a paper you get the 'story' question type questions with several parts. So there is a non-cyclic graph with (say) three nodes and multiple possible responses to each node. Some of the 'process' marks are only available for showing correct working, some are implicit if a correct final answer is seen. Towards the end of the paper, you get a small number of 4 or 5 mark questions with much more complex 'process' requirements.

Marking a mock paper and providing decent feedback on errors and recommendations for revision for a student takes around 20 minutes on a rough average. So an hour per set per student. When I taught full-time I had between 150 and 200 students taking GCSE courses.

One parent once complained to the principal that I would not mark a complete set of past papers each week. I did mark at least two complete sets in the final term of the course and provide one2one tutorials on suggested revision strategy. I simply took the parent through the mental arithmetic above.

So yes automatic marking systems for early questions in the paper would help. I would imagine that the complexity of marking a programming task would be similar if not more complex given the number of nodes in the graph of possible solutions.

[1] https://www.mathsgenie.co.uk/papers.html is a good example. No affiliation &c See if you can write out answers to a higher tier paper in less than half an hour then scrub through the video for the full experience.

Ubuntu Budgie switches its approach to Wayland

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Re: ssh?

[snip] "find[ing] new applications that are pure Wayland is going to be a pain (try finding a Wayland native terminal emulation, for example. It's there but IIRC the naming convention is rather obscure)"

@Peter and all

Slackware 'pure' wayland KDE works fine on 2011 and later hardware. Gnome of course works ok in its own special way in Debian and all.

What of lighter / smaller WIMP environments?

I'd need something like a window manager with overlapping windows, a panel with menu, notifications and application launchers, a terminal emulator, a graphical text editor, a graphical file manager with ability to mount external drives together with LibreOffice and Firefox / Thunderbird at minimum. What am I looking at here?

Suits ignored IT's warnings, so the tech team went for the neck

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Headmaster

Re: One does wonder...

If you liked those then I'd recommend the British Army Recruitment Battery (BARB) tests, especially the symbol rotation test.

There used to be a free sample test which could be accessed without any form of registration. I had good mileage out of that one used on an interactive whiteboard or tablets and with half a dozen teenagers trying to work out the questions. Alas, all the samples seem to be registration only now which is a loss.

Icon: Calculator? [raises eyebrow]

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Childcatcher

Re: One does wonder...

UK public sector survivor here

Most (like about 90%) of the senior post-holders I worked to could actually distinguish between an average load and a maximum. And they could appreciate the need to plan capacity for the maximum.

That was in the context of students, classrooms, chairs and desks, corridor widths, canteen seating and number of staff though. Perhaps easier to visualise.

https://www.jobtestprep.co.uk/free-psychometric-test

Apple exec defends 8GB $1,599 MacBook Pro, claims it's like 16GB in a PC

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Re: Insult to injury

@Lurko

https://www.gov.uk/electricalwaste-producer-supplier-responsibilities/take-back-waste-in-store

Thankyou for a considered and thoughtful reply.

I have actually seen notices about bringing old things back to the shop within 28 days locally. Now I know why.

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Re: Insult to injury

"If somebody does by one with their own cash, then I’m sure they will get a chunk back when they upgrade and sell it on."

I'm interested in the resale price of old computers and in the viability of 'refurbished' computers generally. Just from a 'lets keep stuff out of landfill if it is any use" perspective.

How will the current generation of tightly integrated Apple hardware fare in the aftermarket? Anyone got any informed ideas?

Robot mistakes man for box of peppers, kills him

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Enquiry or hearing of any kind?

Will there be any kind of hearing or inquiry into the circumstances does anyone know? Basically how industrial accidents resulting in death are dealt with in Korea.

For instance, why was the robot live while a technician was checking the sensor?

Do the servicing and diagnostic procedures need altering to prevent any repeat of this kind of incident?

Revamped Raspberry Pi OS boasts Wayland desktop and improved imager tool

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Pint

Wayfire

I've just noticed that wayfire and the associated panel are in slackbuilds for Slackware 15.0 along with the dependencies required starting from a full Slackware install.

Could be a Sunday morning project.

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Childcatcher

Re: Neatly summaries ...

I think it should be said here, but with supporting detail. For example, from the OA

"this process crashed out when trying to update the wolfram-engine component of Mathematica"

So an issue with a (generously provided) proprietary application.

Icon: getting maths to the yoof is a good thing

OpenELA flips Red Hat the bird with public release of Enterprise Linux source

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Re: SUSE's marketing capitulation

My (limited) understanding is that SUSE provide support for Enterprise Linux shops under the Liberty Linux brand.

Runs in parallel with their own SLES and similar products.

Happy to be corrected.

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Windows

Re: Does not compute!

Enochian magic suffices. John Dee had the right idea with this stuff.

Now anyone heard anything from Springdale or from CERN/Fermilab?

Icon: too many swings of the pendulum

Windows CE reaches end of life, if not end of sales

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"The devices that run this sort of thing can easily last decades, and so does software support. Currently, I have to keep a copy of VS 2005 around just for that."

I'm interested in the idea of 20+ year hardware and software.

It seems to me that for many applications there is no need for instant updates every day.

Perhaps we need to block things off from the public internet more often?

X looks back at year of so-called 'engineering excellence' under Musk

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Re: time just flys past

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-67269549

Mr Musk is attending(*) a conference in the UK and doing a live discussion with our PM.

Could be an opportunity for a sparkler or two if not actual fireworks.

(I shall wait for the edited highlights myself)

(*) Not sure if actual appearance or video link

GNOME Foundation's new executive director sparks witch hunt

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Re: Good Grief Charlie Brown!

"ads in Linux, like asking for donations"

Can you provide a specific example of such an advert? I'd like to have a look.

Icon: to all starting new jobs or marriages

Royal College considers no confidence move after Excel recruitment debacle

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@Headley

Not your downvoter, but, yes, I think the senior managers may actually be concerned about this and the resulting actions.

Don't underestimate the soft power of the Royal Colleges.

Take Windows 11... please. Leaks confirm low numbers for Microsoft's latest OS

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Costs

Quote from OA...

"Which, in a nutshell, is the problem. Windows 11 is simply OK. There's nothing particularly wrong with it except for its hardware requirements."

In the case that existing hardware can't run Windows 11, many smaller public sector organisations are faced with significant replacement costs. Budgets are under pressure at the moment and that is likely to get worse.

Birmingham set to miss deadline to make Oracle disaster 'safe and compliant'

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Tunnel, lights visible at end, may not be oncoming train

https://www.personneltoday.com/hr/birmingham-city-council-union-agreement/

Personally, my view is that if you need to second 30 people from their normal jobs for a limited period to calculate accurate accounts, that is what you do. Then we(*) know what the situation is, and people in BCC will know what processes need to change to conform to the assumptions made in the software (can't believe I typed that last bit).

I realise that The Register focuses on the ongoing Oracle disaster as it is the IT angle, but the agreement on work grading means that the more major historical liabilities can now be quantified.

Sheffield and Glasgow have smaller equality liabilities because they are (surprise) smaller authorities. Would be interesting to calculate a liability per job figure. But that of course would require financial software that works.

(*) Council tax payers

GNOME developer proposes removing the X11 session

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still no fix for smbus bug?

Fedora 39 beta default gnome / wayland session on a Thinkpad L440 (2011, 8Gb, SSD and all)

https://askubuntu.com/questions/1097080/ubuntu-18-04-mouse-on-lenovo-thinkpad-x240-not-working-after-suspend-hibernate

Still the case that suspending and waking up results in no trackpad. Both on Xorg and wayland.

So like 30% of laptops will require some kind of script to be written and placed in a specific location just to get the track pad to work after you open the lid. And we are arguing about the subsystem that manages the graphic desktop?

JWZ may have had it correct. Google CADT.

Icon: old man waves his fist at the skies after expecting basics to just work.

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"I don't bang a drum for it, and it makes absolutely no difference to me if others prefer a different desktop. It's good that a choice exists."

Excellent, that's the spirit. Linux should be 'a space of freedom'.

Alas the backwash of the decisions that the Gnome project makes affect a significant number of other projects. I suppose it is a case of "no project is an island" (especially if it publishes a popular graphical toolkit).

Sigh.

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Answer 1) Because they like it?

Answer 2) Because it is what their corporate desktop uses?

Answer 3) Because it was default when they installed/were given the machine and it enables them to do stuff?

PS: Fedora 39 beta passes the legacy hardware test. Live iso will boot and run on a Thinkpad T61 (2008) with 2G ram, while running Gnome 45/Wayland, and I was able to run Firefox and LibreOffice Writer OK. But top was showing the OOM reaper hovering around the fifth or 6th line.