Re: £899 - Ouch
>They all have Android 9, so they all have Project Treble.
If the manufacturer doesn't push out the updates it doesn't matter what "projects" it has installed.
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Not an issue for me, I very rarely listen to music on my phone and need to charge it at the same time; in fact I can't think when I have ever needed to do that in the 3.5 years I've had my current phone. If it was something I actually needed I'd by some Bluetooth ear buds.
I am in the market for a new phone to replace my Nexus 6P and I've narrowed it down to a Pixel 3XL or Oneplus 6T; I'm leaning towards the OnePlus as a £200 saving is quite a chunk of money, but I do worry that updates, or lack thereof, could be an issue.
I've had a couple of those over the last few weeks, to an email account that is never used; threatening to send the video to all the contacts on that account. That would be a stupendous feat as there are no contacts associated with that account, not to mention they captured the video on a PC that has no webcam. So, yeah, go for it.
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So the one that offers the better service gets your custom or are you saying in the model I propose everyone will just be crap?
Unfortunately in the model you propose, and as it happened, broadband prices got lower and lower, each ISP undercutting the others, to the point that the only way it could be profitable was to massively over subscribe their service; relying on the ones that just use their connection for email and web browsing to subsidise the ones that used their connection for gaming, streaming services etc. Eventually nobody could get anywhere near the connection speed they were paying for outside of very off-peak hours.
"fight for your custom by reducing prices or offering a better service."
This doesn't always work in the consumers favour; this happened in the broadband market starting around ten years ago and resulted in a race for the bottom. ISP's kept offering unrealistic pricing for their service that meant that anytime outside the wee small hours of the morning, the contention ratio of your connection was so high that you didn't stand a snowballs chance in hell of getting anything like the speed you were paying for.
I'd far rather pay a realistic amount for my broadband so long as that means that the ISP isn't over selling accounts in my area and I actually get the speed and quality of service I pay for,
"No no no. The vast vast majority of normal people do not care about this. In fact they like things that work consistently."
Actually, my experience proves the opposite, I have friends that are not in anyway "IT Comfortable" that chose high end Android devices simply because they liked to be able individualise the Home Screens. Now, possibly these friends could be the exception rather than the rule I suppose.
Or try using Arriva Ticket App that, between 07:00 and 09:00 and 16:00 and 18:00 routinely shows the error "unable to connect to server, please check you signal or wireless connection"; even with a full four bars of 4G and everything else on the phone is managing to find their respective servers. with no problem whatsoever.
"Lenovo's support has gone to the bottom of the pile."
This exactly; Lenovo's RMA/Technical support has to be the worst of the major manufacturers to the point that they completely refuse to RMA a machine that was delivered with chassis damage. Lenovo state that no machines leave their plant with physical damage so it must have been transit damage; transit sourced and supplied by Lenovo mind you.
Considering the awful build quality of Lenovo products you would think their RMA system would run like a well oiled machine.
One of the benefits of buying a "high-end smartphone" is that it *can" last longer than three years before it starts to slow down and the battery fails.
I have a Nexus 6P that is now three and a half years old and is still working with no issues, including the battery still allowing a full day of pretty heavy use.
This would not have been true had I bought whatever the budget smart phone of the time was, as they quite often begin somewhat "slow" and get worse from there on wards.
I must admit the price of the Nexus 6P is more "budget" these days :)
"If you buy a high end handset that's shipped with Oreo then updates aren't dependant on binary blobs from silicon vendors any more."
But you are still dependent on you manufacturer or service provider, if bought under contract, for those updates to be pushed out to your phone. It is that stage where things go south.
"- We can set up trade deals that benefit us, and not be told what tariffs/taxes to charge to benefit someone else."
So negotiating a trade deal as one small island will get us better deals than negotiating as a member of a 27 country trading block? Not sure how you'r working that one out.
"- We can set up trade deals that benefit us, and not be told what tariffs/taxes to charge to benefit someone else."
Not sure how our economic model is any different, nor why we would want it to be different, from other EU countries?
"- We don't have to send billions a year to be spent by someone else on what they think is good for us."
<sigh> this old debunked claim - all going the the NHS is it instead?
"- We can deport undesirables (hate speech preachers, for example) without the ECJ telling us that we have to keep them because deportation would spoil their family life."
I agree with the above but not sure the EU ever stopped us doing this anyway.
"Look at how most ex-British Empire states are doing now, despite the protestations from imperials at the time that they were throwing away their place in something wonderful."
I'm not sure flag waving ex-colonies that are riddled with corruption and poverty is a good example to be honest.
"And the argument 'get the latest Android first' does not appear to be convincing many consumers to take the bait either. AND it's available from other brands through 'One'."
The above, for me, is the deciding factor on what phone I buy; well timely security patches at least. But as the major manufacturers insist on installing their bloated, and pretty much useless, "skins" onto Android this means they are not able deliver said security patches, this means that a Pixel is the only phone that will be fully up to date.
My sons Samsung S8 as an example is a month behind my Nexus 6P on security patches, and the only reason can be the time it takes them to make sure that their awful, and completely useless, "skin" is compatible.
"“The space force is the next and natural evolution of American military strength," the Veep said. "The first American rockets in space were launched by our military. The first American satellites to orbit the Earth were on reconnaissance missions behind the Iron Curtain...."
Not correct:-
The Jupiter C, was America's first successful space vehicle, launched the free world's first scientific satellite, Explorer 1, into orbit on January 31, 1958. The Explorer I satellite is attached to a single solid-propellant rocket motor, which served as the launch vehicle's fourth stage.
I always took it that, that comment was her version of Occam's Razor.
Granny Weatherwax is a very "non-new age" and pragmatic; for instance her "clients" would think she'd healed them by making a magic potion but really it was the way she'd twisted their back while pretending to stumble and holding onto them for "support".
She most certainly would not encourage the belief in ancient aliens and other "woo-woo" stuff.
"The issue that sticks in the craw is that Google apparently don't allow an OEM to produce two Android devices, one of which is fully Googled-up while the other is not. If they're different devices they should be allowed to use different licensing schemes."
Nothing is stopping them from doing just that; they can take the free Android kernel and build their own operating system, incorporating whatever rubbish home developed apps they want to. If they produced one that is better than Fully Googled Android then, just as Chrome beat out IE, they/it would beat out Google,.
The chances are more than 50/50 though that it wouldn't be better and would be so full of Samsung, for instance, rubbish that you couldn't uninstall, and wouldn't be able to change default search, email etc. and would "slurp" your information and data to Samsung rather than Google.
The end of this route is that the only decent option for a mobile phone would be one that is Googles own.
There is a big difference, try searching both for "exchange 2016 cumulative update"
Google top link - download page for the CU
Bing top link - a Microsoft Docs page of Blog posts.
Okay, just one, not really very big, difference but there are many more where Google finds the page you want whereas Bing does not, well not on the first page anyway.
It's not a case of "rewarding Google for their practices" as the Pixel 3 will be a Google product so I would expect it to have Google apps as defaults.
Samsung set their apps to be default so why not expect Google to do the same on their own hardware?
"Nexus 7 went bad so fast"
Which model of Nexus 7? I have a 2013 model that is still in daily use; I've had to replace the battery two years ago but it's still working fine.
I would think that the survey would only measure speeds of the premises that actually had a broadband connection; any that didn't wouldn't be included in the figures as their speed of "0" would make no difference to the totals. In the same way, if you wanted to find the average speed on UK roads you wouldn't include vehicles that were parked at the time.
Most of the negative posts aren't aimed at the device but more at the manufacturer of said device; the device it's self is no better, or worse, than a PixelC or Chromebook, and at least isn't an Apple device which I wouldn't touch with somebody elses barge-pole.
Bottom line, it's a 10 inch tablet and the price isn't far off the Android and iOS equivalent; it runs Windows which does mean that it could be attractive for field engineers, for example, where Windows is a requirement due to software.
Minecraft, and for that matter most Bethesda game, are different; the "unofficial addons" are called mods and both games have sites dedicated to posting and downloading those mods that are moderated with the files virus scanned by the hosting company.
The files themselves are not executable, in the main, and can only be "opened" within the games themselves.