* Posts by Kiwi

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Tired of despairing of Trump and Brexit? Why not despair about YouTube stars instead?

Kiwi

Re: Yes, it's mad mad world.

I've got a (rather shaky[1]) video of a Morris Minor odometer going over 99,999 and back to 00000 again - I wonder if I should post it and become the next YooToobe millionaire?

I have a few of those, and one coming up soon.

Perhaps we can both put them up.

Then find someone takes them, combines them into a pile of other clips, and makes money where we don't. (like much of the cat vids and crash vids and whatever else gets put into such things, I doubt the original posters get anything)

Kiwi

Or take the refuse that comes out of restaurants - it goes to feed pigs

Not in this country it doesn't (and I suspect, ditto for the rest of the EU). Amazingly, feeding meat (especially anything containing brains and spinal cord) back to the same species causes undesirable effects!

Assume it's still the same here today - I worked in a commercial kitchen for a while and we split our waste, anything plant based went into the pig bins, anything meat based went elsewhere

(Usually to the staff for the meat based stuff if it was unsold leftovers).

TBH I can't recall what was done with the meaty left overs (partially eaten portions etc) but I think it had a separate place (possibly to a cat shelter or something like that).

But over here (at least back then ('93) we credited our restaurant staff with the intelligence to sort stuff. Also we've tended to frown on the idea of feeding meat-byproducts to sheep and cattle and other herbivorous animals.

Kiwi
Headmaster

Re: "Ten Ordinary People Paid HUGE Amounts For Entertaining Others"

the reg needs to drop all this clickbait celebrity rubbish and stick to actual news.

I thought El Reg was staffed by professional journalists. Wouldn't reporting actual news cost them that distinction? They'd be hounded out of journalism for unprofessional conduct!

Reporting real news. Whatever will these kids think of next? AND GET OFF MY LAWORRN!

Kiwi
Childcatcher

Re: Sorry to take it there... but

Won't someone think of the children!!

Given the context of your post, don't you think that's a bit of a problem?

Kiwi

Re: WTF is wrong with this world?

It was dead easy to grasp, because it was clear, concise and well, you could see.

Now, hardly anyone bothers to make pages like that, if I make up a static page detailing how I built something, there's immediately some dick saying "where's the youtube of it?" because they want spoon feeding or maybe they just fancy spaffing half a hour of their life away.

so tl,dr; none of its curated, and its riddled with drivel, so you might pull off a complex job you couldnt tackle before, or you might fubar it up.

I have often much preferred the static pages. For a start, it's a hell of a lot easier to search for a small part you want to focus on when you know the rest of the job, often loads quicker etc, and of course you can leave the tab open, close and restart the browser, and a dozen tabs don't start screaming at you!

I had also forgotten that there were a few vids on lapping that I looked at where I could tell you straight off that they were rubbish and dangerous, including one where a guy put a bit of rubbed tubing onto the end of the valve and hooked it into a high-speed drill and spun the drill up then pulled the thing hard back. Pretty sure 1) the grinding paste would've both been forced and spun out PDQ and 2) it'd quickly wear down the edge of the valve, leading to burning and scoring just about the instant you turn the engine over.

The good video I saw had NO speaking in it. A few subtitles pointing things out, but no one speaking. Sounds of the job being done (seen this with a few other vids as well). Some of the speaking ones are done well, with a mix of informative and entertaining speech that isn't a load of waffle.

Kiwi
Big Brother

Re: It’s about the kids

Also news reports have legal requirements to report on facts

Must be nice living where you are, where murcoch@co haven't had enough of an influence!

Here in NZ the TV news media make stuff up more than the worst tabloids, when they're even interested in reporting on something. Often if not entirely made up they'll fudge the details, like reporting something as "just discovered" or reporting the results of some study where El Reg reported the results of the study more than 6 months previously), and often they'll not report mitigating stuff or the other side of the story.

And of course, a celebrity being up on charges makes a lot of big headlines - they report the facts. When the celebrity gets all charges dropped or found not guilty, well, there's little if any reporting on that. They may completely omit the article about a person having their charges dropped. Just another way they fudge the reporting.

There's where they show a small bit of burning bush and say it's an out of control fire threatening thousands of homes when the fire has been out for hours...

I could go on and on and on, but I'll stop here.

Kiwi
Trollface

Re: I too want to scream incoherently into the void...

A colleague and myself joked a few years ago about starting a site "Instadump - Pictures of poo what I have done". Starting to think we should have done it for real.

Well, if farcebork didn't go ya for some sort of copyright/patent etc, I'm quite sure crApple would've claimed that jobs invented defecating when he was thinking of the next icopyphone, and they would've been suing you for copying their look and feel. (can you imagine challenging their lawyers to prove that they actually did check for "feel"? )

Kiwi
Black Helicopters

Re: Eish!

I was expecting flat earth to come up ...

How could it come up if it's flat hmm?

YOU'RE PART OF THE NASA FUNDED NSA CONSPIRACY BY THE CIA ON BEHALF OF THE FBI UNDER THE INSTRUCTION OF THE TEA PARTY TO MAKE US BELIEVE THE EARTH ISN'T .000001mm THICK!!!!!!!11!!!!!!!111!!11!11!!!11111111!!!!!1!!1 YOU POST IS IRREFUTABLE PROOF THE LIZARD PEOPLE FROM THE DARK SIDE OF MARS ARE ALL BEHIND IT!!!!1!!1111!!111!!!11!!1!!11!1!11!1 AND MY SHIFT KEY NOT STAYING DOWN PROVES THAT ALIENS ARE BEHIND IT ALL!!!1!!!111111!!!!!!!1!1

Kiwi

Re: Despair over Brexit and Trump?

And voters who can but don't vote automatically vote none of the above...

Why should my vote be cast for me by default?

It is my choice whether I vote or not, and if I chose not to vote then that is my choice - not "none of the above" (which, BTW, is a choice I'd love to see on the ballot papers)

And before anyone says otherwise, I did vote in this year's general election.

Kiwi

Re: I too want to scream incoherently into the void...

These very wealthy nobodies produce and contribute artless nothing.

So that's where I've been going wrong!

Here I am trying to contribute stuff of value to society any way I can, and I have nothing to show for it.

These guys contribute nothing of value, and yet they're bloody rich! Any one of them is better off than all of my family, my friends, and my friend's families combined!

Mebbe I should stop contributing value and start filming a lump of shit in the toilet or something. Or is even that too artsy?

Kiwi
Trollface

Re: Despair over Brexit and Trump?

...an accused child molester....Trump...unconditional support...

What's the saying about birds with similar types of plumage?

Kiwi
Coat

Re: If you think that is stupid

about inducing a mild hypnotic state .....I found the first few I watched mildly interesting

Anyone know the code word that will cause all these millions of youtube viewers to kill the president ?

You might have to be a bit more specific about that.

Unless of course you don't care which president...

Kiwi
Joke

Re: Ryan....

I blame myself for letting him watch it but Google does a worser job of suggesting even more filth, many a times inappropriate stuff for him to watch.

I hear they have a how-to video on YT to teach parents how to have much more control over what their kids see and do, with much less fuss.

If you visit youtube.com and do a search for "cement head in microwave" you should find it...

Kiwi
Coat

Re: Despair over Brexit and Trump?

@ Haku. Transcript of one of Trump's speeches

Do think Google Translate could do anything with that to help me see the wisdom of the man?

I don't think it would help. This is one area where Mr Trump is truly transparent!

Kiwi
Coat

Just like youtube, television is pure garbage.

Afraid you'll have to explain yourself better. What sort of garbage are we talking here?

A cardashian would consider clothes they wore last week as pure garbage, but others would kill to just touch such a garment, who knows what they'd do to own something like that - you can be sure that this piece of "garbage" would be displayed in a very prideful location.

Or take the refuse that comes out of restaurants - it goes to feed pigs or gardens. Same with some sewerage treatment plants, solid waste gets sold to place on, well, plants.

Even radioactive waste, the thing many governments hate so dearly - why I bet those fine fellows over at ISIS would be only too happy to take it away for free!

Even the most polluted shit has an odd level of value - just look at the streams of crap that come from the mouths of politicians, yet people pay hundreds or even thousands of $$$ just to be able to sit at a table in the same building as them!

"garbage" is a very poorly defined word I'm afraid.

Kiwi
Go

Re: "Ten Ordinary People Paid HUGE Amounts For Entertaining Others"

Bring back real news and I'll consider turning off ad block here.

If you want news of a quality that's appropriate for you, then there is a site where you'll really feel at home! Just click here for your chance at total news BLISS!!!

Kiwi
Thumb Up

Re: Yes, it's mad mad world.

As for the comments, it's funny reading the arguments they get into as too many of them have brains with a self preservation mode; it switches off as soon as they visit YouTube.

I've seen and experienced some terrible stuff in life. I've made mistakes that have me cringing at their memory over 30 years later (some before I was even 10 years old).

I don't think any of them tops reading a thread on Youtube. I've seen more stupidity in a single thread on YT than I've seen anywhere else in my life (except maybe on TV)

Kiwi
Headmaster

These things will pass.

However, like severe constipation, not soon enough and perhaps with far more pain than you'd like.

-->He looks like he's full of....

Kiwi
WTF?

WTF is wrong with this world?

There are people who show useful things that "useless" people (ie the inexperienced) can watch to see how something is done. Videos on changing oil or tyres, or lapping valves (for the slightly less useless among us), changing tap washers or other plumbing jobs, basic household maintenance jobs etc - things that can save you a fair bit of money for a little bit of work.

These are the ones who should be rolling in it! Not these bloody clowns who should be winning darwin awards rather than massive monetary rewards (except maybe the kid - though I'm sure someone would pay to watch him put some batteries in wrong (esp lithium), or perhaps introduce his eyeball to the rotors on his new mini drone or something like that).

What the hell is wrong with this world? Here I am learning to do useful things so I can save money, instead I should just be a complete bloody jerk and be able to pay people to do them for me!

Disk drive fired 'Frisbees of death' across data centre after storage admin crossed his wires

Kiwi

Re: Lathes

You can't get away with that anymore, but then you can hardly find machine shop classes in high school anymore either.

Careful! Even mentioning the term 'machine shop" is almost grounds for imprisonment these days, in case one of the poor wee dears has nightmares about getting a splinter in their finger.

Kiwi

But in this case, we were treated to a second fireball and more porcelain fragments.

I've watched many videos of electrical failures including substations in recent months.

Something I'd both love and hate to see up close and personal.

Kiwi

Re: Servicing a VCR was like playing with a Hellraiser puzzle box

And a peanut butter sandwich out of another...

Only a peanut butter sandwich?

Some people have all the bloody luck.

YouTuber cements head inside microwave oven

Kiwi
Pint

Re: You don't pour concrete.

Kiwi the exception is one you place prefabbed/ pre poured concrete .

That would certainly make sense to me. I'd have no question with "placing" pre-cast slabs.

Kiwi

Go to duckduckgo, look up "cutting wheel" and "disk cutter". What do you see? Serious question ... do they adjust the results according to the local vernacular of the user? Would make some sense, but might get a trifle confusing sometimes ... first of all, define "local" :-)

I normally use DDG but normally with JS turned off. I did the previous searches with google for some odd reason. Hopefully that'll mean my search is a bit more "pure" in this case as I didn't pollute it.

Here are the first 4 results for "cutting wheel" via DDG with JS On. Please excuse my not linkifying the links :)

https://www.amazon.com/Cutting-Wheel/s?ie=UTF8&page=1&rh=i%3Aaps%2Ck%3ACutting%20Wheel (various cutting disks mostly 4.5", about half-way down the page is something closer to what you're referring to I think)

http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?icep_ff3=9&pub=5574933636&toolid=10001&campid=5336728181&customid=&icep_uq=cutting+wheel&icep_sellerId=&icep_ex_kw=&icep_sortBy=12&icep_catId=&icep_minPrice=&icep_maxPrice=&ipn=psmain&icep_vectorid=229466&kwid=902099&mtid=824&kw=lg (first few are for much smaller wheels, larger tools start later in the page)

https://www.alibaba.com/showroom/cutting-wheel.html (mainly 4.5 -7" on the first few lines, some not identified by size)

http://www.cutting-wheels.com/ (their graphics show lots of large cutting tools)

I'll change browser (from Pale Moon to Waterfox) for the next search - DDG with JS for "disk cutter" (with quotes, both searches, btw). First 4 results :

https://duckduckgo.com/y.js?u3=https%3A%2F%2Fr.search.yahoo.com%2Fcbclk%2FdWU9RjRCRjkwMzQ4RUMyNENBQyZ1dD0xNTEyOTA1Mjk1NDc4JnVvPTc5MDk2MTM4MjExNjA5Jmx0PTImZXM9dXZUYmN0NEdQUzhXQ2ZxcQ%2D%2D%2FRV%3D2%2FRE%3D1512934095%2FRO%3D10%2FRU%3Dhttps%253a%252f%252fwww.bing.com%252faclick%253fld%253dd39aVSue6nqMeI_pZjsYHnijVUCUyDHUntYx9DJJcKKzEM394al%2D794ONJx_ms7v7BHDPl4o1EaKdEWe9NVa91XVQPS2%2DAuWbKiz%2Ddq7B2tI5RxRFjmkH87R4Q138XfTGLJVd6hZCU5MDQG2Q60aHrKEECZ3lxyRmCcTpHDEFQ22bUaE0V%2526u%253dhttp%25253a%25252f%25252f19.xg4ken.com%25252ftrk%25252fv1%25253fprof%25253d571%252526camp%25253d157594%252526affcode%25253dcr5364187%252526kct%25253dmsn%252526kchid%25253d160000636%252526cid%25253d79096138211609%252526queryStr%25253d%25252520%25252522disk%25252520cutter%25252522%252526kdv%25253dc%252526criteriaid%25253dkwd%2D79096146864946%25253aloc%2D134%252526adgroupid%25253d1265537954570837%252526campaignid%25253d291320625%252526locphy%25253d2510%252526url%25253dhttp%25253a%25252f%25252fwww.cooksongold.com%25252fJewellery%2DTools%25252f%2DRange%25253dDisc_Cutters%25252f%2DSize%25253d0%25252f%2DType%25253d0%25252f%2DBrand%25253d0%25252f%2DFont%25253d0%25252f%252526prdsearch%25253dy%25253f%2FRK%3D2%2FRS%3Dmx3m0pTGk9R0YCTLjS.u.C98YOw%2D (advert for jewellery tools)

http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?icep_ff3=9&pub=5574933636&toolid=10001&campid=5336728181&customid=&icep_uq=disc+cutter&icep_sellerId=&icep_ex_kw=&icep_sortBy=12&icep_catId=&icep_minPrice=&icep_maxPrice=&ipn=psmain&icep_vectorid=229466&kwid=902099&mtid=824&kw=lg (seems to be all small stuff like you mention)

https://www.etsy.com/market/disc_cutter (as above)

https://www.amazon.com/disk-cutter/s?ie=UTF8&page=1&rh=i%3Aaps%2Ck%3Adisk%20cutter

Most of the first lot of DDG results agree with you on this, only about 3/4 of the way down did I start to see stuff referring to the larger power tools.

Slight difference with turning JS off but that may be altered due to my previous search. I see an Alibaba link come into the #6 spot for larger blades, then about 15 or so a reference to farm machinery.

Interesting results - different search engines give very diiferent results. DDG is my main engine of choice but I use google if I am not seeing what I wish (DDG struggles with limiting searches to NZ sites, which may also be impacting on the results in this case).

Depends on where you live and who you ask. A few years back "scientists" published results of a study where they claimed they'd recently discovered NZ had 4 english dialects. I could name several more than that just from growing up - with differences based on race, church affiliation/religion, what sort of town you were in (smaller rural, dormitory, larger city etc), age group, type of school (public etc, poor/rich and so on), type of work (farming vs office vs mechanic vs....) and a whole lot of other factors. Some NZ accents are actually quite different to others, eg anyone in the North Island can pick someone from Gore (vs Invercargil) based on how they pronounce certain words or sounds.

So not too surprising even in supposedly standardised industries you can find significant differences in definitions. Especially when we have most of the Pacific between us!

(Made the mistake of leaving a couple of the wrong bits of JS on, 4th time through that captcha bullshit (at least 4th time, so far) - about time a tech site got that shit fixed isn't it El Reg? It also does stupid stuff like wiping out the text of the message and often breaking the reply link, such as in this case!))

Kiwi

Re: You don't pour concrete.

Maybe this link will help convince you:

http://www.ccanz.org.nz/page/Placing.aspx

Call 'em and ask for clarification. Report back.

No idea who these people are, the organisation only goes back as far as 2006. I've checked with organisations (eg Fletchers and FIrth) who've been around much longer. I'll ask around a few mates still associated with the industry if I remember too tomorrow, but I haven't heard of these guys myself. I do know that no one talked about "placing" concrete back then, it was called "pouring" because that was what the trucks and other machines were doing - pouring concrete. Some into formers (eg for columns), some into holes in the ground (eg foundations). Even a mate who has been a steel fixer for almost as long as I've been alive, and has worked on some interesting sites, calls it pouring.

I see in their document "guide to concrete construction" they use the term "This helps compact the concrete near the top of the pour as the vibrator is withdrawn from the concrete." (emphasis mine) - or you can look at http://www.ccanz.org.nz/page/Residental-Driveways.aspx for "Cool, overcast weather is ideal for pouring concrete. It should not be poured if rain or frost is forecast." (in fact the string "pour" comes up 4 times in that page alone). Their "news feed" off their home page prominently lists "http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11810779" (though that news site probably rates about as high as the flail).

More on their site : http://www.ccanz.org.nz/page/Admixtures.aspx

http://www.ccanz.org.nz/page/Joints.aspx

http://www.ccanz.org.nz/page/Early-Age-Crack-Control.aspx

I'll bet you a plugged nickel the answer is that they tolerate "poured"

Looks like they're more than happy to use "pour" in relation to concreting. But I'll drop them a line. I'll reference this thread so maybe one of them will speak directly.

in the same way that techies tolerate nontechies calling the box that holds the motherboard, power supply, disks, memory, processor, network card(s) etc. "The CPU".

I haven't heard it called that for a long time! Though in some respects, especially when you have a lot of external peripherals, that's not too far off the mark really. Much better than those who call the computer the modem and call the monitor the computer or something else.

We only get mild frosts here in Sonoma. Ground is alluvial from mixed sources. Even when soggy you don't sink much past the topsoil. I'm pretty certain we can give you a run for your money regarding earthquakes. The place in Nevada is high, dry, and cold, also alluvial, and gets plenty of earthquakes.

I didn't actually realise Nevada got any quakes, and I had forgotten you're more around SF area (IIRC - no idea where Sonoma is otherwise :) ).

The area I grew up is beautiful soil for all but building on it. Deep volcanic ash. Deep. And very rich. Bedrock is surprising deep in some areas (given the nearby rather large chunk of rock known as Mt Egmont that sticks out of the ground a bit).

Stabilizing mud is no fun at all. I can show you buildings built on the mud flats of San Francisco Bay that have pilings driven over 120 feet into the mud. They "float", and were actually designed to sink 5 feet further over their expected lifetime. Think flexible connections for water, power, natural gas, communications & sewer. I'm glad I don't have that problem.

I've seen some of that. The last "big" building I worked on (look up Midland Park, Wellington - look at the monstrosity behind it - I knew that thing when it was a hole in the ground) had some fun issues with ground water, even with the bedrock not being too far down. Of course, reclaimed land 'n'all, and what wasn't reclaimed came up during the 1840 quake that raised levels (IIRC along Lambton Quay there's "shoreline 1840" plaques on the footpath - showing where the shore was before that quake - those are inland from the site I mentioned). Not sure how they built the old central police station on there back in.. can't recall the year but a good 100 of them ago, though that was only 4 stories plus a (rather waterlogged by the time I saw it) basement.

I don't think we have many of the "floating" buildings here, and I kinda hope - given the nature of these "shaky isles" - that we don't get much more of them, and if we do they far exceed current standards.

(Hope this is ready to send - takes a while when you have to wait a few minutes for a page to load.. God willing my connection may improve significantly tomorrow!)

Kiwi
Pint

Re: Confused

A disk cutter cuts disks out of thin metal, usually for jewelry making, See:

http://www.ottofrei.com/jewelry-tools-equipment/forming-tools/disk-cutters-hole-punching

Really? See https://www.worldofpower.co.uk/stihl-ts420-petrol-14-66-7cc-disc-cutter.html for a 14" petrol-powered disc cutter

Or there's the 16" model at http://www.ronsmith.co.uk/stihl-disc-cutters-ts800-16inch.html

There are a few sites that refer to the small tools you mention, but the majority of sites show much larger power tools under the heading "disc cutter"

Of course, you could find out the proper definition by visiting this specialist site...

Or you could visit this page at icky-pedia (is there a form of Godwin's law that means I just lost the argument by quoting that place?)

The device you describe is called a cutting wheel.

Nope, it's called a disc cutter (among many other names),

It is mounted on a circular saw, or a die grinder, or a power saw.

Most of the ones I've used have been mounted on angle grinders, even up to IIRC 14".

Mostly I agree with your definitions, but sometimes you seem to be a bit off compared to the rest of the world. Must be that weird language you yanks call "English" :)

Kiwi
WTF?

Re: Confused

"the biggest disc cutters"

That'd be about 2.5 inch, and now I'm even more confused.

Bloody hell you guys must have some tiny tools over there! I've never seen a cutting disk smaller than 4", and that's one nearly due for replacement!

Kiwi

Re: You don't pour concrete.

Kiwi, take a gander at:

http://deeconcrete.com/concrete/glossary-pq.asp

Scroll down to "placing".

Who the hell are "Dee Concrete"? What makes you think they're better at defining concrete terminology than the millions of places who assert that "pour" is the correct term?

Re. path foundation: As I describe works everywhere I've ever built a path with pavers. Including the one I drive a tractor over daily, the driveway in front of my garage, and one in Nevada, where the temperature dips into the 20-below F (close to -30C) range regularly during the winter. All are over 15 years old, and holding up quite nicely. The ten year old variation that fords the seasonal creek is going to need replacing in a couple years.

We only get mild frosts for a few weeks a year where I grew up, which is probably why where your ground stays solid enough with a bit of sand ours turns to sometimes more than a metre of mud (in select places, like where tractors run over them often), thus making sand-based "foundations" rather rubbish in heavy-use areas. Hell, some places need much more than that just for people walking out to a clothesline with a basket of washing.

Your area may be much different to ours though, you may not get the near constant quakes (even if some are quite small), your soil may not get as liquid as it gets here at times, and you may be able to get away with these things. Not everyone can.

Success over seasonal creeks can vary significantly. When I was not long on farming (14/15yo) I drove a light tractor (tiny wee baby Massey-Fergusson 135, only a tonne and a half or so) across a paddock that clearly had a creek in part of it, but where I drove was dry with no water. A little while later a fertilizer truck came through and the driver followed my tracks. His truck was several times the weight of the tractor and where I found hard dry ground he found that it was only the surface, soft mud deeper down. In the same place, your packed-sand foundation would've failed just as fast as what he dove over, they're usually only a few inches thick and designed to take people walking over them or the odd vehicle, not 10 tonne diggers.

Kiwi
Flame

Re: How dumb can you get?

(ps: It's time to update the emojis. Animation would be nice.)

Time to update the number of downvotes we can give - you need one for "animation", one for "would be nice", and a dozen for "emojis".

At least.

Per commentard..

Kiwi
Headmaster

On the Internet nobody knows your a dog.

That's ok, they don't know my B dog either. My C dog on the other hand....

Kiwi
Unhappy

Why be a dog when you could just as easily pretend to be a cat? All it takes is to be able to successfully fake affection until the treats/food/attention is delivered..

Mine prefers jumping on your bed in the middle of the night, then running off. From the highest point in the room. Right to your guts.

And if that doesn't work expect to find any exposed body parts have had a visit from Santa. Santa CLAWS that is. (actually we now call the little devil "satan claws")

Oh - and the desire to cough up furballs in the middle of the landing carpet so that the unwitting food-provider walks over them in bare feet in the middle of the night.

Mine went one better. Getting into bed after a long day, very tired, roll over towards the middle and wtf? Cat had decided to get the hairball out while she was under the blankets!

(El Reg, your icon department lets us down by not having a suitable icon for such levels of disgust!)

Kiwi

Can't turn it on while the door is open / removed.

... now that's security.

Screwdriver in each of the holes where the door catches would go (has to be both as you have to operate both interlock switches), and you're fine...

...fine dust blowing across the floor if you happen to discover that those switches (used to) contain mains power and while it theoretically shouldn't be possible you managed to put the screwdriver in contact with phase...

Kiwi
Coat

Re: Confused

If such a call had genuinely come in, they should have just left the guy to go help the other person(s) first.

They often do - prioritise things like "threatening their life and others", "threatening their life", "threatening serious long term harm", threatening serious short term harm" and so on down to "he'll have a hard time of it (especially after he finds he cannot get to the bathroom in time), will probably have a few anxiety attacks, but is unlikely to suffer any actual injury - he can wait. At least we know he ain't going anywhere for a while".

--> Me going through the trapped guy's wallet hunting for some of his internet millions...

Kiwi
Black Helicopters

Re: Send them the bill

Can we ban fat people from universal healthcare? I mean, they've clearly demonstrated they can't be trusted with taking care of their own bodies, and fatties tend to have to visit the hospital more often than normies, so I don't see any logical reason my taxes should pay for their healthcare.

I'm one of the "fatties". Even when I've been fit, doing heavy labouring jobs that require a LOT of walking while carrying loads over 40KG (and often over 60), swimming every other day (IIRC I averaged 15 lengths of a 50metre (Olympic size) pool each time), eating fairly healthy etc etc etc. Never could shake the excess poundage.

However, my ultra-fit ultra-healthy friends were the ones in and out of hospital, not me. Mostly sports-related accidents, but I've known some to have other ailments brought on by the unnatural levels of "health products" they'd bombard their bodies with.

Most of my accidents have been work-related, about half of them due to equipment failure (most of which could not reasonably have been foreseen, eg a poorly cast part leading to a critical part of the steering mechanism on a near new (less than 3 years old) forklift breaking). Total ER visits for me is 7 including when I got into something toxic as a toddler and broke myself up badly doing "stupid teenage stuff" as a stupid teenage. I have people I know who've done more than that this summer! (counting from when it got hot, not from the 1st Dec).

(Chopper because mate of mine needed one not long back while mountain-climbing - how many fatties need expensive mountain rescues each year eh? )

Kiwi
Mushroom

Re: Darwin doesn't always reclaim his own...

This was before the internet and I dread to think what he'd have tried had we had it back then.

You'd probably have tried sitting on your arse all night watching stupid people do stupid things in youtube, and not much else - if the average person today is anything to go by!

Kiwi

Re: Average IQ

At the end they concluded the national average IQ was 112, which implies they hadn't read even the first paragraph of the Wikipedia entry.

There shouldn't be much of a problem with that. The average Kiwi IQ is about 110, whereas the average Ozzie is about 20 - thus they're helping to raise the global average IQ for everyone else :)

If a "national average" IQ is expressed as a global average, then it can easily be <>100.

(Not that IQ seems a great test - I sit here on 140+ (taking the average of tests I've done over the years) which means my savings ATM doesn't even rate to $1/IQ point, whereas these guys appear to have IQ's that rate below "functional amoeba" and yet they're worth millions!)

Kiwi
Coat

Could be worse, could have tried to put his cock in a toaster. You can't beat a bit of brown.

I don't think you'd be beating anything much for a while after that!

Kiwi
Boffin

Re: You don't pour concrete.

You don't pour concrete.

You place it.

All that time I spent working around construction-related industries and never knew. Nor did the architects, engineers, inspectors, concrete-truck drivers, people who removed the air from the concrete after each pour etc etc etc. The only time I heard someone use "place" in relation to concrete was telling someone where to put broken concrete ("place it in the bin over there") - everything else was referred to as "pour".

And yes, my experience involves buildings over 20 stories high.

And you don't make the foundation for a garden path out of concrete. You use well-packed roadbase and/or sand.

Depends on where you live and what you're trying to achieve. I've known a couple where if you're not putting in steel-reinforced concrete your path won't last long (of course, a route that wasn't across in front of the tractor shed (right next to the house unusually - he hated to walk far) would've worked wonders for the brick path he wanted to have!)

Microsoft emergency update: Malware Engine needs, erm, malware protection

Kiwi
Holmes

Re: Wider issue

Thanks, yes, in my naive way I would expect any scanning software to examine the code, not run it. Otherwise it's no better than when those detectives in old American cop dramas stick a finger into the white powder and taste it.

Always wondered what would happen if someone tipped the cops off that cocaine was being transported in drums marked as xxx-Cyanide (the xxx being something combined with the cyanide that'd give the resulting compound a whiter colour while still leaving the lethality) - if they really did things like in the movies how many would perish before they realised tasting even a tiny amount of "strange white powder" is a very bad idea? (also IIRC wouldn't is somewhat resemble anthrax spores? (not that you're transport anthrax in large bricks but a small packet (enough for a druggy to get their fix of cocaine) of flour mixed with a few spores...)

Even as a kid I thought "that's silly, what is someone poisons it?".

Mailsploit: It's 2017, and you can spoof the 'from' in email to fool filters

Kiwi

Re: the only reason why I've not gotten around to setting up DMARC

a) Ah, the greybeard sysadmin that refuses to learn anything introduced past the 1970s, and uses the 'I don't want to break things' as the main excuse.

And a good one at that. A downed or mis-behaving server can cause all sorts of problems including lost reputation, lost ability to communicate with clients, and of course loss of reputation. If you make a small mistake that means your server isn't sending emails out, or is sending them out with wrong details (and thus emails from your server get treated as spam) you can lose productivity, clients and of course money and sometimes that can be quite high. If your system gets flagged by spamhaus etc as sending spam, then it can take a while to undo the damage to your reputation (it's bloody hard enough getting them to trust a new domain as it is!), and clients don't trust a firm who has their emails constantly going into the spam folder.

If you put your trust into a system that doesn't get widespread adoption then it's a waste of time for the majority of emails sent.

The prudent thing is to wait and watch for a while until the tech is stable and adopted enough to make it worthwhile (of course, there is the problem that if everyone sits and watches...)

b) Aren't you paid to ensure your systems are using the best solutions and practices?

Yes. Keeping things functioning and stopping them from breaking, stopping them from having problems etc - keeping it working efficiently with the minimal fuss, maintenance and downtime is "best practice" - what returns the best overall profit, not necessarily what is the best tool for the job. Remember that an admin's time is often very limited and if you show me a company where the admin has plenty of time to research and play with these things I'll show you a company who can expect to lose an admin in the next downsizing.

c) better protecting your messages from spoofing is not important?

A new system doesn't necessarily work better. I've seen a number of systems come and go over the years designed to better protect email. They didn't get widespread adoption, I guess largely because the cost of installation and administration outweighed the gains from the protection.

Those who installed this stuff also later had to remove it when it failed, perhaps re-train users to use replacement systems. Take the latest and greatest if there is an urgent security need. Use old and stable otherwise.

Kiwi

Re: how would that work exactly?

The servers should do MX header analyze lookups and then put a little globe icon to geolocate the IP that sent that garbage to you. This email from bad spam area > trash.

Had good friends visitng that area recently. How'd we share emails in that case?

Ok, I'm tech savy (almost, kinda, if you look at me sideways and don't turn the lights on) - how would his non-savy friends stay in touch?

Kiwi
Boffin

Re: Classic reponse from Mozilla

But the sad fact is, it's still a hell of a lot nicer to use than any of the other stand-alone mail clients for Linux.

Thunderbird does a nice job of highlight folders that have new mail in, and highlighting the folders above them if you're using a collapsed view (so if I get something from the Accounts people at my Power company that's filtered into the correct place in the Utilities tree under my Inbox (Inbox -> Utilities -> Powerco -> Accounts Dept) then the lowest visible one of those folders will be highlighted with blue text. If I have the lot collapsed just showing the account name, that will be the one that gets the highlight.

However. Thunderbird is an outright PAIN to compose messages in where formatting is important (without lots and lots and lots and lots of faffing around with styles and paragraph spacings etc - I just want a nicely laid out clear easy to read email without gobs and gobs of space between paragraphs or with other formatting going to pot), misses the boat on simple things like rightclick -> create filter from message (instead you have to go off into places most users will never find), has a bug (STILL!) where it can bring up reminders for recurring events months after they've been deleted, and lacks a few other nice bits of functionality I have to go elsewhere to find.

I still sometimes call it up because I haven't seen where a new message went to.

If the TB team at Mozilla could actually get off their arses and start listening and improving things instead of making their stuff worse.. Oh, right. Mozilla. What am I thinking? TB got too good and now they have to actively ruin it, like they did to Firefox when that was still around.

Kiwi
Paris Hilton

you'll find that they do care if it looks like the bcc header is being abused, which used to be a common tactic.

Quite annoying that as well. An example, I had a mechanical question and have a number of mechanics and engineers among my friends and contacts, so I sent a message to myself with a number of these people BCC'd. They're people who don't necessarily know each other and who haven't given me the OK to give their email address to anyone else, so by using BCC they're protected (yes I could use mailmerge but I find BCC much quicker and easier when my limited mental capacity is trying to work around something else). Several of these people use gmail, but only ONE had a message rejected by gmail because I was using BCC, one I'd been exchanging material with for some time.

Using BCC legitimately, nothing spammy in the message or message body (which was plain text as well - maybe that triggers warnings these days?), and most of the messages got through including to the same provider.

I have friends who'll send out a "Christmas news letter" to family and friends (sent to people who want to get it and sent from someone who is able to write about interesting subjects in an interesting manner about the very interesting life he leads and work he does). They generally use the same method, BCC to everyone instead of CC to everyone, or a massive TO header. I'm not sure how this actually shows "spam" since the spam I receive comes from places like LI and FB anyway, and all the other stuff comes from use of tools like mailmerge. I can't recall ever hearing of actual spammers using BCC.

--> Paris coz I'm sure she fully understands "mail merge"

Kiwi

Re: "Removing the ability to spoof the from address would stop third party"...

Really - no. You would just need a mechanism - something like DMARC - which can be interrogated to ask if a sending server is authorized to send messages for that sender - and obviously performing checks on both the SMTP MAIL FROM and what is inside the RFC (2)822 message, and ensure they match.

I've wondered something about that.

Lets say I send you a message from mike@welltec.edu.nz (using an actual email address) claiming to be that person and perhaps offering you a job position or any number of other things that could seem reasonable out-of-the-blue. What is there that checks any SPF information to see if the chain I've put in there is actually relevant to you, ie how can you check that I haven't spoofed the SPF or other such data, especially if you've never had anything in the chain before.

(not spent a lot of time looking at SPF yet)

La La La, I can't hear you: FCC responds to net neut concerns

Kiwi
Trollface

Re: Trickle down bandwidth

(It's also amusing to point out, especially to the US right-wing, that the early Christians in Jerusalem operated very much along communist lines - "from each according to their ability, to each according to their need".. it really blows a cognitive fuse.)

Spoilsport!

I've been sitting on that one for a while, just waiting for the right comment to be made.

Oh well, other places to visit...

Investigatory Powers Act: You're not being paranoid. UK.gov really is watching you

Kiwi
Holmes

Re: Re. surveillance

Why exactly are the authorities asking for more surveillance powers again?

Because there's been lots of "lone wolf" attacks lately that wouldn't even come close to being picked up by this. But they have to be seen to be doing something, and this is something.

Kiwi

Re: People's behaviour

I further assert that the vast majority of, if not all, people who have lost a loved one are grateful that the Police can track phones. Unless you've been there you'll never really know that sense of panic and despair.

I have been there. The police were beyond fucking useless in tracking the phone. They knew people were searching for the missing person in a dangerous location and instead of informing these people of that they let them continue their desperate search for the missing person.

The police themselves went to the right area, got to within a few metres of the person, but couldn't be bothered walking around the corner of a building to check a little further. Had they done so, he would've been rescued that night instead of damned near freezing to death while friends were also at risk many kilometres away searching where they believed this person to be. Pigs didn't have to give the location, but they could've said "don't waste your time searching that area". The lot of them are beyond worthless, and like a gangrenous member should be cut out from the rest of society and disposed of.

The other stuff you posted about earlier - nothing to do with the police. They'd rather be beating up innocent teenagers in the cells (sorry, I mean "encouraging them to confess" - without representation of course) than investigating burglaries, they're not going to show up to a car accident or any other traffic event (except to shoot innocent bystanders ala the Auckland pigs), they'll tell you not to bother filing a report for a mugging even if it's on camera because they won't be bothering to investigate it. Tell them there's a dog playing in yard with kids and they'll come round and fire their guns into the yard several times in repeatedly failed attempts to kill the "dangerous" family pet that hasn't even noticed them let alone threatened anyone. And if they hit the kids well they deserved it for spending time with such a loving and playful viciously dangerous labrador "trained fighting dog". Killing friendly family pets in front of children may be a new fun game for the nz pigs to play.

Yes I am pissed at the police, yes I have good reason, and I look forward to the opening of a new outdoor toilet. Real soon I hope. Actually no, I'd prefer they spend a few years with some disease first. It still won't bring them close to the harm they've caused, but might at least make them take some time to think about the consequences of their actions and what they've done to others.

Kiwi

Re: People's behaviour

Today I had to contribute to the death club at work. A man died yesterday doing his job protecting you from dangerous drivers. You ungrateful, miserable, bitter, sad individual.

Some of us have been given good reason to celebrate when one of the worthless cunts who make up our police force dies.

If they wanted our respect, they should act in a manner worthy of respect. Given that they act in a manner worthy only of contempt, disrespect, and often the deepest hatred, one can only assume that these vile scumbags want people pissing on their graves when they die. And the sooner the better for some of them.

If you've lost a friend then I am sorry for your loss, but don't come to a thread about corrupt and/or immoral law enforcement practices expecting sympathy when one of them dies. Some of us have to much baggage, to much harm in our families due to the acts by the very people you want us to feel sorry for.

Kiwi
Thumb Up

Re: People's behaviour

"Sometimes the ungrateful, small minded, petty and just, well, ignorant, people here really annoy me."

The appropriate response to that is too obvious to state.

Hear hear!

Kiwi

Re: The cynic in me says it's academic ...

Everyone makes a mistake at work. Be grateful some people are prepared to take the risk of a ruined life in order that you can sleep safe in your bed.

And what about when the ruined life is a young member of your family who has had his life wrecked by some worthless fucking pig on a personal vendetta? Would you feel so wonderful about these disgusting fucking monsters being "prepared to take the risk of a ruined life"?

Would that make you happy?