Posts by jake

Re: Sadly... this is the beginning of the end

"It's getting hard to find a distro that doesn't use systemd."

Slackware still works quite nicely. Perhaps your definition of "hard" doesn't match mine?

"In consequence it will be increasingly common to find applications assuming that one of other of its tentacles is available for use."

I have heard many people make this claim. However, io date I have not found that to be an issue even one time. As I said, Slackware still works quite nicely.

Re: Sadly... this is the beginning of the end

I think you'll find that there is a lot of 4.3BSD in SunOS5.0 (AKA Solaris), by way of SysVR4.

AIX had boatloads of 4.2BSD in it, with a hefty pinch of early SysV.

The Mach kernel itself started life as 4.2BSD, and userland in MacOS and NeXT is clearly BSD.

This is one hand clapping territory.

Re: OS/2 deja vu?

"MacOS runs Linux code with just a few tweaks to makefiles, why shouldn't windows?"

Because Mac OS is essentially a flavo(u)r of BSD. Windows is not.

Re: Am I the only one?

Currently, schmerently. If it is going into the mainstream kernel, it will be given the fine-tooth by non-Microsoft employees until roughly the heat death of the Universe. There will always be a subset of the FOSS set who don't trust commercial code at all, and will make every effort to expose any transgressions (real or imagined) attempted by commercial outfits.

Re: Am I the only one?

There is a big difference between Microsoft and IBM dating (before Apple stole IBM away (remember Taligent & Pink?)), and Microsoft flirting with FOSS code.

Re: Sadly... this is the beginning of the end

"Lots of details didn't quite work as advertised."

And yet, BSD was the base for SunOS, AIX, HP-UX, Ultrix, NeXTStep, Solaris, Tru64, OSX, MacOS ... need I go on?

Re: Sadly... this is the beginning of the end

The OS is responsible for the systemd-cancer? Interesting concept. Please elucidate.

Re: Am I the only one?

"Microsoft have successfully shoved a ton of unchecked code into the kernel"

No. If anything, the Redmond contributions to the kernel have been checked more thoroughly than contributions from any other commercial entity. Not only has it been vetted by Linus & the rest of the Kernel dev folks ... it is also very carefully eyeballed by a bunch of fanboi hangers-on, each eager to make a name for themselves finding bugs/holes/backdoors/other exploits in MS submitted code.

Re: Hmm

Things like replace themselves, mutate themselves, repair themselves, program themselves, power themselves, think for themselves, plan for their own future ... just little stuff like that.

Re: The Phantom Devil Comes Out to Play for Saints and Sinners :-) in CHAOS*

"Dated and signed ....... 2009261541"

A little under 13 years from now ... Should Martians reveal they have time travel over a silly grant money eating, shuffle-board on ice playing robot?

Re: Perseverance is shooting x-rays at Mars?

There is only one amfM, so far as I know. He somehow lost his original "amfM" account (forgot the password(??)), and created the "amfM 1" account. The last post of the former and the creation of the latter are roughly an hour apart, in mid-June of 2009. The only reason I know this is because I watched it happen and found it odd enough to remember.

I seem to remember an "amfM1" (with no space) account posting occasionally, but that might be a figment of my imagination.

There have been a couple of pretenders using various variations of the handle (some quite punny, as is the wont of us commentards), but all were intentionally(?) obvious imposters.

It has been suggested there might be a MomFromMars (maybe named ELIZA), and possibly an UncleFromMars (Parry?), but amfM has held his council on the subject.

Re: Perseverance is shooting x-rays at Mars?

If you are from, say, Hull and are vacationing in Southport and somebody asks you where you are from, you answer Hull. However, if you are from Hull and somebody in Hull asks you where you are from, typically would your answer not be Here? (We won't ask where somebody from Southport might claim to be from, kiddies read ElReg and we wouldn't want to scar(e) them.)

Seeing as amfM doesn't use the handle amfH, Shirley he's not there?

Re: Perseverance is shooting x-rays at Mars?

The Jolly Green Giant is from the eponymous valley, as any fule no.

Re: What point was that?

As I said, all you ACs look alike, to the point where your posts have disappeared into a swirling mist of grey goo.

Hint: Whatever handle you use here on ElReg is just as anonymous as posting AC, but at least you'll have a face no matter how badly you've crayoned it outside the lines.

What point was that?

Which AC are you, anyway ... you all look alike to me.

In my mind, from a security point of view all you SHOULD get is a login: prompt. Even providing the OS name with the login prompt is too much information ... adding the version major and minor numbers is right out.

Remarkably few comments after those three articles. And not many of the comments are regarding the actual error message.

But you are right. Many of the comments are about Windows being shit. Because it is, well, shit. Should techies not be allowed to blow off steam about something that grinds on them every single fucking day that the Sun rises?

Good idea!

It would certainly make their error messages more useful. But then throwing mud at the screen would make Redmond's error messages more useful.

It's Bootnotes.

All work and no play makes for a dull Vulture.

Re: Punchcard machines with no ink

A partially sighted friend of mine can read punched paper with her fingers, similar to braille. She's one of the best big iron debuggers I've ever known ...

Re: not that f*&%@# piece of s*$% VT100...ahhhh...

:set noerrorbells

Re: VT100?

Procomm was released in 1985, roughly concurrent with DOS 3.0. I'm fairly certain I was using it to emulate VT100 right from the git-go.

Re: I'll take a pass

One of the first things I do when configuring a modern un*x machine is send a login to a serial port (usually USB these days) and hang a dumb terminal off it. One never knows when the GUI might go TITSUP[0], especially when doing dev work ... that friendly $ prompt means fixing it without a reboot is not only possible, but likely.

[0] Total Inability To Show Usual Pr0n^H^H^Hictures.

Re: @IGotOut

In my day we used the clip from our badge.

Re: No cursor keys

Various vi clones (or "work-alikes") have been available on MS-DOS since the days of DOS 2.X ... for the GUI crowd, vim has compiled for Windows since at least the mid 1990s. Cygwin brought a version to 32-bit Windows in '95.

Re: No cursor keys

I use one varietal or another of vi on the various un*xen that I admin because it's near universal and works nicely, even over dial-up. That would be elvis or vim specifically almost everywhere, with the odd stevie in strange places. All work well enough. On Apple kit I use vim. I almost never need to edit anything on Windows anymore, but when I do I use stevie. Basically, vi works on everything, what's not to like?

I admit that I still use EMACS occasionally, usually when I need psychotherapy or to play tetris or anything else that obviously belongs in a text editor that is lacking in vi.

I'd rather have Linux on my Linux machines. Where is it written that one must choose either go ogle or Redmond?

Re: Edge..no!

Why don't you use FTP to download Vivaldi?

Re: The point?

"one of the main reasons firefox hasn't got any traction in corporates its a pain to configure it"

It is? Methinks whoever is doing your configuring needs help.

On the rare occasion that JWs brave the brood mares & dawgs and manage to find my front door, I keep a copy of Marx's Manifesto (in original pamphlet form) nearby to offer them in return for their publications ... They usually look like they've seen a ghost and scurry away, never to be seen again.

No, I'm not a communist. It's just a tool.

"you are using MS code already."

Perhaps. Perhaps not. Have you read the modified Slackware-based source that I use to compile my system? If not, how can you make that statement?

However, just to play Devil's Advocate, let's say I am.

At least it has been thoroughly vetted by Linus & the rest of the Kernel dev folks ... and by a bunch of fanboi hangers-on, each eager to make a name for themselves finding bugs/holes/backdoors in MS submitted code. Can't say the same of anything else that Microsoft inflicts on the world.

"Works quite well"? WTF?? ... oh, you mean in comparison to Gnome/Wayland.

As you were, then.

Re: At least

I've been using the Slackware distribution of Linux as my primary desktop since 1994 ... the year before IE was released.

Re: You were trying to get updates for 13 year old software ....

Slackware 14.0 (released September of 2012) was last updated on the 21st of August.

Re: At least ... IE

"You were trying to get updates for 13 year old software and seem surprised you can't find it?"

I just today got an update for Samba and Vim. Both are 28 years old. Also one for sudo, which is about 4 decades old, and one for cmake, which is a youngster at a mere 20 years old.

::shrugs::

Re: Choosing between the devil and his brother

"Mint [ for now --- until I replace with a KDE distro ]"

Try Slackware ... which also gives you a systemd-cancer free experience.

Yes, there is a Slackbuild for PaleMoon ... but I'm pretty happy with the as-shipped Firefox 68.12.xESR (in -stable) and 78.3.xESR (in -current).