* Posts by jake

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Apache foundation ousts TinkerPop project co-founder for tweeting 'offensive humor that borders on hate speech'

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Re: It's elementary

So ousting someone from his own project because of an off-colo(u)r joke made outside that project's forum is OK, in your mind?

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Re: It's elementary....for volunteer work?

"As a member of the Board"

Again, no. He was not.

"In fact, as a co-founder, he probably helped create their code of conduct, their culture, and their expectations of Directors."

Please do a little research before spouting off. He was co-founder of a little piece of FOSS code that is so small that it doesn't even have it's own Wiki page. He was in no way, shape or form a part of the ASF board, nor did he contribute to the CoC that was forced on all the little projects under the ASF.

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Re: It's elementary

"He took a job with a code of conduct"

No, he did not. He co-created a piece of code that eventually found itself under the auspices of the ASF. Later, the ASF decided to force a code of conduct on all such FOSS projects under their wing. He did not agree to it, it was presented as fait accompli to him and everybody else under the auspices of the ASF.

Part of that code says (paraphrasing) "The ASF is allowed to police your every thought and word, even when you are not working on ASF stuff".

Personally, I'd tell the ASF to fuck off. I have, in fact. (I started contributing to NCSA HTTPd before Apache existed, and then continued contributing after Apache took over the codebase. I stopped contributing when they implemented the code of conduct. I refuse to work for thought police.)

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Re: do they really like to police tweets?

"p.s. I wonder when we start mis-quoting:"

I did, in July of 2020. The context is almost the same.

I do not claim to have been the first.

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Re: How refreshing!

I know what racism is, TYVM. Nowhere in its definition does it say that name-calling is a good idea, not even in response to name-callers.

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Re: Wrong to kick him out

So you can't even bother to try to make yourself understood?

Fair enough. I'll ignore you now.

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Re: Wrong to kick him out

That's a nice opinion piece, jtaylor.

Sadly for your opinion, however, Mr. Rodriguez was not a member of the ASF board. He is the co-founder of a bit of FOSS code that currently hangs out under the auspices of the ASF.

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Re: It's elementary

"The allegedly should imply "innocent until proven guilty""

I agree. However, in our modern "enlightened" society, an allegation is enough to try, convict and sentence somebody in the court of public opinion. And it's getting worse.

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Exactly. Who cares what the twits at twitter allow or disallow? We'll always have Usenet ...

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Agree on a jerk's a jerk. But many people are jerks. Should they all get pulled from whatever project they are on?

And yes, the wws and the a-wws are two sides of the same coin. Neither would exist without the other. They really ought to get a room and get the inevitable over with.

But that's all meaningless to my question. Would you have run across his tweets and "peeked" at them had they not been mentioned here (or wherever the third-party mentioned them)? If you had not "peeked", would they have affected you in any way, shape, or form?

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Re: Wrong to kick him out

No, implying that I may disagree with what you have to say, but I will fight for your right to say it. Just not necessarily in my livingroom.

Note that "the guy" you quoted isn't the main subject of TOA.

Also note that the other guy, who was that subject, didn't say those things in the ASF's livingroom.

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Re: Wrong to kick him out

Why do people like you insist on putting words in other people's mouths? I made no such claim, and you know it.

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Re: Hey, Apache Software Foundation ...

They've been selling Jeep Cherokees for almost 50 years ... Methinks it's a trifle late to bitch about it now. It'll be interesting to see what SCotUS has to say about it when it gets to that level ... and you know it will.

On the other hand, there are Adult ways of handling this kind of thing. See the Florida Seminoles, for a good example.

Note that mine was pointing out how petty and hypocritical the ASF is being.

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Re: words fly away, writings remain.

Have a beer!

just doing my part, contributing to the delinquency ...

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Re: Obligatory XKCD

It even has a name ... Hospital Humo(u)r.

Sadly, a friend that works at the local hospital says it is now frowned upon. And the staff are feeling the effects of not having that release. Which is inevitably being transferred to the patients. Which does absolutely nothing for their over-all health.

One wonders how M*A*S*H would be received by today's television audience ... or even if it would have made it past today's network censors in the first place. Would the BBC allow Blackadder if it were pitched today? How about Are You Being Served?

Here's a good one ... Disney has started to stream Jim Henson's original "The Muppet Show" on Disney+. But these days it comes with an offensive content disclaimer. Really. You can't make this shit up.

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Did you know that from his work on the project? Or did you run across some hearsay and go out of your way to see what the guy was doing in his free time? Doesn't that make you a stalker?

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Re: Nazi jokes, rape jokes, not actually funny

No, I didn't read whatever it was he wrote. Because I don't want to. Simples.

But you did read it, presumably because you wanted to. So what are you bitching about? Afraid you Great Aunt in Duluth might read it? Perhaps you should let her decide that for herself. She's an adult, right?

And don't give me that bogus bullshit about "think about the children". It's the parent's job to think about their kids, not mine (unless I am specifically invited, in a specific situation).

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Re: Obligatory XKCD

The fifth panel is a lie. It should read "It's just that the people presumed to be in charge don't like it when people don't march in thought-step with them". I invite you to fill in the sixth panel at your leisure (which is, in an of itself, an anathema to those presumed to be in charge ... ).

It's funny, left-wing-nuts used to invite the differently thinking into their ranks. Now thinking differently is considered evil, just like the right-wing-nuts. That's why I lump 'em all together and just call 'em what they are ... collectively, they are wingnuts, and all equally dangerous.

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Even if he doesnlt care anymore ...

... it would be fun to see him fork it and see who follows him. I'd find it absolutely hysterical if he took the bulk of the existing developers with him, and then (if he truly has no interest in the project anymore) quietly passed the reins and dropped out, point made.

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Re: How refreshing!

So, Naich, you and your chosen few are allowed to call people names, but people you don't like are evil when they do the same? Do you know what the word hypocrite means?

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Re: Wrong to kick him out

Actually, it is related to this article. We have a business entity telling someone what they can an cannot say in their spare time, away from that entity.

ASF is attempting to stifle free speech, with the penalty of ostracism for those who refuse to march in lock-step even in their private time. This is one of the most evil things humans do to each other.

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Re: What free speech?

Don't do the crime if you can't do the time.

Society has rules and regs. Break them, go to jail. Dont like the rules and regs? Get enough people together who agree with you and change them. In this country, it is not only possible, it happens.

::shrugs::

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Re: Wrong to kick him out

" am so bored of Americans thinking they have a perfect system, all the while quoting Amendments to the system..."

You are only bored because you haven't bothered trying to understand how it works. Nobody important ever said it was perfect. The amendment process was built into the system. Seems the Founders realized that society is not static.

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Re: How even dare you to question identity politics and woke culture?

The change is happening. Look where the thumbs are pointing in these comments.

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Re: I don't know why there is such a fuss over this.

Today's kids would do well to listen to, and understand, Tom Robinson's song "Power in the Darkness" from 1978.

The slope is very slippery. Which side of the line are you on?

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Re: Hey, Apache Software Foundation ...

"Their symbol can be a ball of multicolored/broken wires with a few sticking out."

That would infringe on Airspeeder's image in the public eye, wouldn't it?

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Hey, Apache Software Foundation ...

... Who gave you the right to abuse that name? I mean, really, "a patchy server"? Talk about offensive! (And yes, that IS where the name came from, regardless of any latter-day adjustment to their creation story.)

As for that feather you use as a logo, do you have any idea what that means? You have NOT earned the right to wear that feather. I demand you remove it immediately, and issue an apology for it's misuse.

Typical fucking holier-than-thou fuckheads.

Robots that take out your garbage? Oh What A Feeling, says Toyota as it opens its very own smart city

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Re: assisted living facilities

People are joking about the Covid 19 being akin to the Freshman 15 ... IMO, and from observation, they shouldn't be joking about it. Folks are getting fat from lack of exercise and easy access to snacks, which is aiding and abetting stress eating.

Yes, the gent in question is ballooning. Apparently his family tried to do an intervention, but he just doesn't seem to care. On the bright side, he doesn't get drunk, run out of beer, and drive off to get more ... he just calls and has it delivered.

This is not the 21st century that I read about as a lad ...

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Re: GO

To make it truly sustainable, shouldn't that be a central group of housing, surrounded by 8 fields growing most or all of the village's food?

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Re: In 'Woven City' ...

It's worse ... the automation in each householdpod will be identical because customizing it for each and every occupant will be incredibly costly. This means no individuality in furniture placement ... or where food is placed in refrigerators. Or the location, quantity, and type of spices in the cupboard. Over the top, or out from under? No longer your choice, prole. Same for every other little touch that makes a house a home.

Moving the humans out would indeed be the logical conclusion.

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Re: In 'Woven City' ...

"Heck, you can't even trust governments with that!"

FTFY

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Re: assisted living facilities

Thanks to Covid, we have that already. The neighbor of a friend of mine in town seems to live on delivered fast food (3X/day!) and cheap beer. Lots of cheap beer. He hasn't been off his property in almost a year.

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Re: I bet the way citizens will greet each other will be ...

In the early/mid 1980s my much hacked Heath HERO1 would push the kitchen trash can over to the back door to remind me that it was trash day. After about a month I stopped it. Was cute, but useless ... and once, when the trash was top-heavy, it spread garbage all over the ground floor.

So, bye-bye mighty nerd haven Fry’s, took Silicon to the Valley... and now you must die

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Re: Fry's Failed because...

Wasn't that the 66MHz FSB clocked at 6X, which was a common (and much cheaper) way to get almost identical performance to the 100MHz FSB clocked at 4X? Fry's just called it what it was, 396MHz (not 395!), instead of claiming 400MHz as other companies did ... and trust me, there were a lot more than just two MBs that would support that rate. Yes, some home-built systems burned down, but that was due to the builder's lack of understanding the need for extra cooling ... or the refusal to believe it.

Here is a little blurb on the situation from 1998.

Note that I was no fan of Fry's during that era and on, but demonizing them for something not their doing is hardly productive at this stage of the game.

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IMO, Fry's failed in 1996 ...

... when they started treating their customers like criminals. Nobody I know shopped there after that. Frankly I'm surprised it took them this long to realize they were dead.

SpeakingTyping as a guy who had shopped[0] at the original Sunnyvale location from the year dot ... and lived down the street (kinda ... just down Alma) from the Palo Alto location when it was built.

[0] If I couldn't find the part used at HalTec in Mountain View, I trundled down Central Expressway to HalTed. If they didn't have it used, I went around the corner to Fry's and purchased it new.

Dangerous flying car drone zoomed into UK's Gatwick Airport airspace after killswitch failed

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Re: UAPs

"No doubt your reaction to that will depend on your preconceptions..."

My reaction is mostly predicted by the fact that nobody has presented one, single, solitary shred of evidence that any drones existed in that airspace at that time. Given the very few facts that we do know, it was most likely a minor case of mass hysteria. The authorities should just admit they over-reacted, are continuing to over-react, and have spent inordinate amounts of the Public's money on a wild goose chase. It's time to drop it and move on, already.

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Re: What are the points of these RC models?

You answered it for yourself. They exist as a "Wow!" factor to hopefully help put a crap-ton[0] of investor money into the direct, personal control of the officers of the company, with little to no oversight as to how those funds are to be distributed. In other words, advertising from the marketing department. (Don't look at that man behind the curtain!)

Exciting investment opportunity or scam? You decide with your pocketbook.

Caveat emptor, quia ignorare non debuit quod jus alienum emit

[0] If you're into the Metricals, that would be a crap-tonne. The conversion factor is 1:1

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Re: WTF?

I first thought "The monster from Lockheed? WTF is he on about?" ... and then I realized he was probably British.

It may be early, and Monday, but pints all around anyway :-)

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Re: A breadboard

"The Mojave is a very big place with not a whole lot going on in it."

That's intentional. There are quite a few rules and regs that attempt to keep it that way (unless you have a valid mining claim, of course, which is a rant for another day).

People who see the desert as a whole lot of nothing can't see the forest for trees.

Forget GameStop: Keyboard warriors and electronic trading have never mixed well

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Re: Just last week....credit cards

It's hardly the fault of the tool manufacturer if a company sends a mechanic off with a metric tool kit to repair a piece of equipment assembled with SAE or Imperial fasteners.

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Re: Ignisecond, n.:

There is a reason I refuse to do work for anyone who insists on being referred to as "PhD", along with all doctors, lawyers and politicians.

Life's too short to do work for someone who knows how to do it better than I do.

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Re: Shortest known period of time

If you wait anything like a minute to move away from a green light in NYC you are likely to have a bus or taxi traveling up your exhaust pipe. It's the only town I've ever driven in where you are expected to hit the gas BEFORE the light turns green, in order to have your front bumper past the cross-walk just as the light turns ... Even California's capitol city (Sacramento), with drug dealers brandishing guns indiscriminately, is safer to drive in for out-of-towners.

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Ignisecond, n.:

The overlapping moment of time when the hand is locking the car door even as the brain is saying, "my keys are in there!" —Rich Hall, "Sniglets"

Healthy 32-year-old offered COVID-19 vaccine because doctors had him down as 6.2cm tall with BMI of 28,000

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What "new drug" are you on about? I see no mention of a new drug in either the article or the comments.

If you mean a vaccine, they are not a drugs.

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Re: At least they handled it well

DEC are doing Micro Vax? Still? And here I thought DEC was functionally defunct as a company these last thirty-odd years.

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Re: If you'd said "no"

How about "I'll tell you when I get there, as I close my account due to your corporation's abjectly stupid rules."

What's that, Lassie? Dogs show signs of self-awareness according to peer-reviewed academic study?

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Re: Weird

No, cat's aren't stupid.

Our acreage belongs to the (mostly feral[0]) cats, but they share it with us in return for fresh water, a place to sleep away from the coyotes, and a little quality chow. They also share with the folks east, west, and south of us (all of whom understand cats). The cats pee and poop at the outer corners of the ranch, where it won't get in anybody's way ... and in the fancy rose garden and pool area of the asshole who lives just north of us. He hates cats, and they carefully return the favo(u)r.

The idiot to the north is clueless. And has had a serious rodent problem for the near two decades that he has lived there ... Strangely enough, we don't, and neither do the neighbors to the east, west and south. I wonder why.

[0] Most of them get trapped at least once for spay/neuter and basic injections (difficult or impossible to live trap a feral cat more than once) ... According to the vet, they probably titer out for things like rabies for as long as they live, which isn't long. Sad to say, the ferals are part of the food chain here in Northern California.

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"I'm trying to see the IT angle"

Go back to TFA. See the very first word, in the upper left hand corner?

Hopefully this helps your understanding.

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Re: STD: Smart Telephone Dog

That's learned behavio(u)r.

Here at the Ranch, if we wear our outdoor shoes/boots anywhere indoors but in the mud room, the Collie frowns at us until we remove the offending articles. If we ignore her, she'll nose-nose-nose us, and occasionally bark, until we comply. Then she very carefully puts the footwear where it belongs ... Full story here.

Bill Gates on climate change: Planting trees is not the answer, emissions need to be zeroed out to avoid disaster

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Re: Yeah, sure, right.

"In the book* he makes a point of noting that people he's spoken to include the smallholders likely to be affected as much as the subject matter experts."

Sounds like you're talking about an xtian lay-preacher. That's quite some faith you have there.

* The Living Book?

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