Re: Rofl
But your continued assertions, against a vast stack of publicly-available evidence, that Russia by technical means and those of financial corruption
Of course they have the means. We know they have the means - but I'm going to come to that.
did not try to influence the Brexit vote is just plain silly
But we're talking about evidence remember. The evidence we have publicly (nobody has spoken about military intelligence evidence but assumedly if it existed they'd have been shouting it from the rooftops - I have no problem believing that Novochok was the Russian state but the publicly available evidence is thin on the ground but we *constantly* hear about the attribution, if the security services thought that the Russian state had even slight involvement they'd be shouting it from the rooftops - we know about the civil service - and they just aren't).
It is by now beyond debate that just as Russia wanted Trump to win (because, duh, they've said so) and worked to try to make that happen (and failed, by nearly 3 m votes)
Of course. Remember what hard evidence we have is from the platforms they were using to push their ideology. It's the likes of Facebook and Twitter and others after being asked for evidence and taking another look at things they managed to produce data and create ways (and third parties have too) of tracking what Russian propaganda bots are doing. The truth of the matter is that on having looked multiple times nobody has found any actual hard evidence of this.
so it is conspicuously in Russia's interests to destabilise and weaken the EU
Yeah now we're in the crux of the matter. No it isn't. Outside the EU's instinct to appease we wouldn't be limited by the EU's thin sanctions regime and our sanctions would look far more like the US sanctions than the ones we're forced to have under the EU's "leadership" (using the word very loosely obviously). Outside the EU we can do many things that the EU simply doesn't allow and Russia knows this - they're either not bothered either way or not that stupid.
To pretend otherwise, or to claim they haven't tried damned hard to make it happen, is just ... fantasy.
If they tried so damn hard why is there no actual hard evidence?
could so easily search, as a start, for the UK Electoral Commission, follow its findings on Brexit
What has the Electoral Commission said about the involvement of Russia (which is what we're actually talking about) in the brexit referendum. Far as I'm aware they've said squat. That being said being a bunch of Momentum members I'm not particularly interested until the court cases (criminal and civil) are done - when that happens we can talk about the stunning impartiality of the Electoral Commission - because right now we only have accusations by a provably biased organisation.
You've been played like a fiddle. I've got my eyes open.