* Posts by Mad Mike

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Oracle loses appeal in HP row over Itanium

Mad Mike

Re: 2.5X what is that really?

"What I'm slagging off is IBM's deceitful way of pretending their benchmarks reflect real world performance. Itanium can adjust core frequency and switch cores in and off, but what hp quote is the minimum frequency you will see the chip perform at. They also don't try and hide the fact that switching on and off cores will incur licensing costs. IBM always go on about the maximum frequency they can get from a core, hiding the fact that is with half the cores disabled, and will deny the licensing hit right up until you show them a letter from Oracle stating the facts! I've been there, you obviously have not."

Not sure who your IBm sales rep is, but I've never felt deceived by anything ours has said. I've never had anything like you're describing above. Maybe he just doesn't like you? Can't imagine why!! How has IBM ever hidden that switching cores on and off will incure license costs? IBM has never spoken to use about license costs. They tell us to read our Oracle agreement!! All the literature I've seen also quite happily has both the TurboCore and MaxCore frequencies listed independantly, so where's the hiding?

No benchmark ever reflects real world performance. Not Oracle Sparc, not IBM and not HP. The current trend is to shove SSD everywhere to increase the I/O performance and therefore do better at TPC-C. There were other methods in the past. Anyone who believes benchmarks as real world also believes in the tooth fairy and car MPG figures!! Maybe your rampant hatred of anything non-HP is shining through, so they just decide to wind you up!!

Mad Mike

Re: AC Destroyed All Braincell's rant

"It must really annoy you that it continues to live...." Oh boy, is that beyond the pot and kettle! Just look at the IBM fanbois getting shrieky here just because their heartfelt wish (and often incorrectly predicted) death of Itanium hasn't happened! You lot are so tragic it's just über funny. Seriously, take a step back and a deep breath, I'm worried that a fossil like you might have a stroke if you continue!"

Like I said Matt. I laid down a bet. I bet mainframe will be around longer than Itanium. I take it from your abusive reply that you're not intending to take that bet. Really confident aren't you!!

Mad Mike

Re: IBM does have details about Power8 in its public roadmap and has for two years

Oh Matt, you're really funny. You really need to get out more, but the guards would need to unlock the doors!! It's really great that they install computers in secure wards for you to use. Must help while away the hours!!

"Hp have existing agreements that already tie Oracle to giving equal treatment to hp-ux as Solaris, all covered by the "business as usual" contract. Read it and weep, dinosaur."

P.S.

I'll just reply on this one point. I was talking with someone very senior at Oracle the other day. They are intending to put accelerators in their Sparc chips to help various Oracle products perform better. That will be a feature available on Sparc only. They already do it with Exadata, which has a particular compression mechanism only available on Exadata. So, 'fraid reality has already shown you don't know what you're talking about!!

Mad Mike
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Re: 2.5X what is that really?

"Oh Alli, you know that IBM's daft performance claims simply don't reflect reality. They like to FUD about single-core performance, neatly hiding the fact that the only way they can achieve it is to switch off half the cores in the system (but still leave you paying Oracle licences for all the cores switched off), or even worse by switching off all the cores but one so they can use all the cache from all the cores (but still leaving you paying for ALL the licences). So what you are shrieking about is actually IBM being unable to perform at eight cores, meaning they are indeed last to the game. The truth is shown whenever IBM have to go to a shoot-out against Itanium, they hate it as it exposes their benchmark lies for exactly what they are. If that wasn't true then no-one would have bought anything but Power chips for the last twenty years, and since that very obviously didn't happen it simply shows how much marketing hogwash the whole 2.5x claim and all the other IBM performance claims are. The fact you still constantly repeat the same FUD long after it has been debunked is simply tragic, can't IBM afford to buy their cheerleaders some new FUD?"

So, now you're slagging off the ability to disable some cores for higher performance. Is that because Itanium can't do it? Maybe you'd like to slag off dynamically adjustable SMT? Is that because Itanium can't do it? If you look on TPC-C and SpecInt, you'll notice that it's IBM that always leads the field and normally gets way more done for the same number of cores. I also haven't noticed any of the benchmarks using only a single core per processor or even TurboCore mode (although I haven't looked in the last couple of months). People haven't brought anything but Power chips for the last 20 years for the same reason that Intel haven't got 100% market dominance using x86 or AMD or anyone else for that matter. Given your 'expert' opinion on Itanium, how come Itaniums haven't got 100% market dominance?

I checked on TPC-C the other day and haven't even found any new Itanium benchmarks listed. Don't know about SpecINT. So, who's running from the benchmark wars?

Mad Mike

Re: AC Destroyed All Braincell's rant

"Mainframe has been in decline for years, it is only those stuck with applications that they cannot afford to shift that are staying on it, not because they do not want to shift off it because mainframe is just stupidly expensive. This is clearly shown by IBM's paranoid attacks of anyone that threatens their scam such as PSI, Hercules, etc. IBM needs to screw as much out of those still stuck on mainframe whilst they can, because they know they cannot use it to subsidise the rest of their hardware bizz forever.

Ah well, at least you gave the readers a good laugh."

I remember people like you saying mainframe would be dead in the 90s. It managed it past the year 2000. Then, it managed it past 2010. It must really annoy you that it continues to live. By the way; I know of several new (good sized) apps that have been put on mainframe recently for several companies. Yes, the general trend is downwards, but it's a very slow downward creep. IBM will be making money on mainframes for a long time to come.

I guess we'll see in the years to come, but I bet Itanium is dead first!!

Mad Mike
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Re: IBM does have details about Power8 in its public roadmap and has for two years

"OK, let's do a simple comparison. Let's pretend I'm a customer asking about software support for my new platform - if I ask the IBM rep can he guarantee that Oracle DB will be available next year for a P795, can the IBM rep guarantee it 100%? The hp rep selling a Superdome2 can guarantee it, the IBM rep can't. If you don't think that is an advantage then it is because your IBM blinkers mean you do not want to admit it is one."

How simplistic you are. Nobody can ever guarantee any software support for any period of time. All sorts of things could happen that cause the support to disappear. In the real world, Oracle would love to pull Oracle support from p-Series. They'd love everyone to use their products; of course they would. However, the revenue that Oracle pull in from p-Series is so large (and is likely to remain so) that pulling support is simply not going to happen. So, your argument is spurious.

Also, don't overplay the judgement handed down. Yes, it says they must continue to support their software on Itanium for as long as Itanium exists. Well, it's well know that software vendors have different versions of the same product for different architectures, often with different features. The judgement doesn't say anything about that. So, Oracle can functionally stabilise the Itanium version of the software (whilst maintaining support), but continue development on the others. This is certain to kill it just as much as anything else. Once the functionality gap is big enough, people simply won't run Oracle on Itanium except for legacy apps that don't require it. Then, Itanium becomes the new mainframe!! And, this is entirely in accordance with the judgement handed down. The judgement never said they had to enhance the software!!

Mad Mike
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Re: Mad Mike IBM does have details about Power8 in its public roadmap and has for two years

"Really? Is that because IBM and Oracle can't do it?"

Nope. Because nobody in their right minds runs electrical isolation anymore unless something like military. It simply isn't necessary and isn't economic. By the way......nPARs aren't really fully electrically isolated as some components are still shared. Not many I'll grant. Oracle can actually do it as Domains on their current m-Series are electrically isolated as much as nPARs are. However, that's why Oracle are moving away from them. They simply don't make sense anymore.

"But then the image sizes are constrained by the boundaries of the individual servers. The hp npar technology allows you to make smaller or larger partitions withint eh same frame. On the Superdome2 the size of an npar is based on the multiples of the four-socket cellboard, and you can alter them as requirements change. You simply can't do that with individual servers."

I agree. But then, if you're that bad at sizing your servers and predicting future growth, you deserve the extra cost and aggravation. The very fact that nPARs are based around multiples of 4 processors (potentially 32 cores) is one reason they're useless. Even in my FTSE 30 company, that is simply too big. The granularity is hopeless.

"I suggest you go back to troll school and actually learn about the hp tech before you make yourself look any more ignorant."

Standard from someone who can't answer the points. Simply insult the intelligence of someone with arguments and claim their 'knowledge' is poor. Absolute rubbish.

"No they couldn't, they had common electrical components that meant an electrical issue on one partition of a mainframe could take down another partition. I suggest you read something other than the IBM FUD guide."

For your information, I used to work on a mainframe that was (at one point) divided into two electrically isolated partitions. We're talking around the 1986-88 timeframe. It was actually a Hitachi MVS mainframe called a XL70 I think (if memory working). Suggest you go look it up.

"Because IBM couldn't do them? It seems hp made them both technically viable and sold plenty of them, which suggest your just mouthing off sour grapes because IBM didn't manage it."

No, because they are not granular enough and cannot donate processor to another partition when this nPAR doesn't want it. If you want to run with the utilisation levels of a windows x86 server, then fine, but you'll be paying well over the odds. HP may have made them technically work, but I've spoken with HP salesmen about this and very few companies actually used them. Most prefered vPARs or IVMs. This was also reflected at a series of seminars I attended in Bracknell. So, very few actually wanted nPARs.

"Wow, you actually said something factual! Even if it doesn't have anything to do with npars. I see you also forgot about IVM and hp9000 Containers, but then expecting you to know anything more than the IBM FUD soundbites about hp's tech is obviously a bit too much."

Slagging off again, showing no argument to make. For your information, I know plenty about Integrity as I've done in-depth technical analysis of ALL Unix vendors for my company.

"I evidently am. In mine, I work on enterprise systems that require real processing power. You seem to only work on IBM mainframe sales pitches, and using very old FUD for that. I suggest you ask Jesper for help, he at least knows something exists outside the IBM bubble."

Well, either you're a troll (probably true) or your employer is wasting one hell of a lot of money. I work for a FTSE 30 company that requires enterprise scale Unix computing and nobody round here would ever touch nPARs. They are simply too inflexible. I'm perfectly aware of stuff outside the IBM bubble and we run Solaris as well. Of course, that will just feed your rants as your insistence nobody knows anything outside of IBM or Oracle and your continual slagging of these companies and people using them hides your apparent poor choice in the past. We're running big end p-Series servers at 80-90% continual utilisation. We've had them running at 100% for extended periods before without any issues. That's real bang per buck. What's the best you've achieved with nPARs? Bet you struggle to get above 20-30%. All that wasted processing power......now that's efficient!!

Mad Mike

Re: pm

Fortune 1000 use bladed Itaniums for 'big database environments'? Not any I know. Most of them use servers such as p795, Oracle m-Series, or even, Integrity superdomes. They might use blades for testing environments maybe, but not really production. If you're a Fortune 1000, you can afford the proper stuff and get the benefits of consolidation, something completely lost with nPAR virtualisation.

Whether IBM can put their most powerful Power processor in a blade or not is completely irrelevant. What's the comparative performance of one of their blade Power processors and an Itanium processor? Also, maybe they have different marketing strategies. Maybe they could put their most powerful in there, but choose not to. It's a pretty small market segment that wants to be able to grow Itanium blades by linking them together into a single server. Once you get above a couple, most companies would simply go out and buy a bigger server and virtualise it. The only reason HP can do it, is because that's how they've chosen to build their Superdomes and therefore making it available in blades enclosures at the smaller level is easy. What's the throughput though?

Itanium and Xeon each have their own advantages. Itanium relies very heavily on being able to parallel workload to be able to use its architecture to the full. Not all workloads are like that. If Itanium was so good at heavy DB loads, why wouldn't Oracle simply get HP to make Exadata's for them using Itanium? Or, even make their own? One of the reasons, is that Itaniums cost a whole heap more than Xeon processors.........as in factors.

Mad Mike
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Re: IBM does have details about Power8 in its public roadmap and has for two years

'Alli, nothing exposes the silliness of YOUR posts too than their content. ".....curious when Itanium will have hardware virtulization?....." Go read up on npars, available from back in the days of PA-RISC, and which IBM cannot match with Power. That is real, electrically-isolated hardware, something IBM just cannot do, even with the "legendary" mainframe. You can find plenty of info on npars if you use that Google tool you mentioned....'

All completely irrelevant. If you want electrical isolation, go buy seperate servers. Effectively, all you've got are several server stuck together with gaffer tape with nPARs. Completely pointless. And for your information, mainframes used to be able to run electrically isolated partitions. Effectively, the machine was simply cut up into several. However, IBM (and most of the others) have realised that electrically separated partitions might sound good on paper, but they're economically not viable. My company evaluated Integrity some time ago and nPARs counted for nothing. They were, from a practicality point of view, utterly useless. vPARs are a different matter, but then, they're not electrically isolated, so not the same thing.

If you think electrically isolated partitions are the way forward, you are really living in another world. Oracle have exactly the same issue with domains on their M-series servers. Total lack of flexibility and resource sharing, which is the only way of getting good bang per buck on your servers these days.

BBC: What YOU spent on our lawyers in Secret Climate 28 debacle

Mad Mike

Re: Downvoted, eh? @ Jason 7

@Malcolm Weir.

There is also a secondary argument. Only an utter moron makes changes of unknown effect (if you don't know the cause for certain and the magnitude, you can't know the effect) on global warming (or anything else) which will affect the economic viability of whole countries and potentially the developed world. Yes, make changes that you can and are sensible in scale. However, many of the current requests by scientists are tantamount to crippling the developed world from an economic point of view on the HOPE that scientists are right. I'm not saying we shouldn't be spending some on doing sensible things. However, we are into panic mode now, throwing good money at things that will make little or no difference and potentially plunging our economies into chaos in the process.

As I said earlier; do what you can sensibly do when you can. Save the panic for when you KNOW what will happen with a better degree of certainty than possibly.

Mad Mike

Re: Surprising....how?

http://www.nature.com/scitable/knowledge/library/abrupt-climate-change-during-the-last-ice-24288097

As a for instance. This states that large changes in the temperature of air over Greenland occured within decades. They're talking about anywhere from 8 to 15 degrees over decades, not centuries during the last ice age, between 8,000 and 80,000 years ago. Relatively speaking, this is recent. First found in ice cores drilled over Greenland, they have been verified by various means in other areas of the world, so this is not a local event. These changes dwarf even the worst scientific guesses of today.

Also, geological events have caused huge climate changes. One was even quite recent, where a relatively small (in geological terms) volcano caused climate changes for 5-10 years. The name to lookup is Krakatoa. There have been numerous films recently about super volcanoes. If one of these went up (and there's plenty of evidence that they do regularly), then global climate change would be very abrupt and severe.

Mad Mike

@Captain Underpants

Your reply rather demonstrates you think yourself rather superior to everyone elese. Just because you don't like Eastenders and all the other stuff you listed, doesn't mean it shouldn't be on there. As they're funded largely by the TV watching public, it should really make sense that the programmes they make are those the funders want. And, from the viewing figures, Eastenders etc. are those programmes. Calling people bored or braindead is not an intelligent conversation. It's arrogant, condascending etc.etc. and says more about you than about those you abuse.

Mad Mike

Re: In criticising the BBC and their alleged agenda

'This is like the comments on the Daily Telegraph blog. Expressing an opinion contrary to the website's weather vane brings out the conspiracy theorists!'

The question should be why journalists are trying to direct a discussion and why a body that is supposed to report the news in an unbiased way has a weather vane!!

Mad Mike

@Sebring

Yes, you're right; there are loonies who send death threats to people over their stance on climate change. However, this is from both sides of the spectrum, not just one. The BBC doesn't seem to have any issues listing the names of deniers on a regular basis, but won't do the reverse. So, it's one sided. The BBC has taken a position on this subject, which it should not have. The job of the BBC is to report in an unbiased way and let the viewer/listener decide. It's not to try and push any story in a particular direction.

Mad Mike
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Re: Surprising....how?

@dante999

I think you're letting your position on this cloud the facts. We know CO2 levels in the past have been way lower and way higher. We also know temperatures have been higher and lower. What we absolutely don't know (except for the last few hundred years at best), the rate of change. Your supposition that the increase is somehow different now to the past is without any foundation in fact. If we know the average temperature was say 10 about 5000 years ago, but 12 about 10000 years ago, it doesn't follow that the temperature changed gradually during that time. It might have been the same for centuries and then suddenly changed 2 in a decade. It might have shot up to 15 at one point, back down to 8, before settling at 10. Just because you have two data points doesn't mean you can draw a straight line between them and the data point we're talking about are millenia apart. So, your point about rate of change is applicable to only the last few hundred years where we have more granular information. Over geological time, it's absolute rubbish. In reality, we have no real idea of rate of change over history.

There has been no one (or even a few) changes since the last climate changes. Climate changes gradually, whereas your statement indicating a 'change' suggests it changes, stays the same, then changes again. Contrary to your previous point in fact. As climate has changed continuously since the planet was formed, you can argue the dinosaurs came about during a change just as much as saying humans did. Yes, human populations have exploded recently (last few hundred years) and there has been the burning of fossil fuels, but you're making a fundamental, unscientific mistake. Just because things happen at the same time, doesn't mean causation is at work. Coincidence does occur as well. We also have no idea how much CO2 mother nature can absorb. Bearing in mind levels have been much higher in the geological past and are lower now, rather suggests mother nature can absorb very large amounts, probably more than we imagine.

I'm not suggesting at all that we carry on as we are. I was saying that we should make sensible changes where we can, but bankrupting the world and throwing ourselves back to pre-industrial times is not an option. Wind farms and lots of other renewable energies (like solar PV) are (for the majority of the world) simply not economically viable and often highly unreliable. It'd no good as a country trashing your economy and pushing people into serious hardship. We make the changes that are sensible when we can. Yes, we should recycle more and we can. Yes, we should research more friendly technologies rather than run at the first available (wind). Tidal and wave are far better, but harder to do.

Contrary to your statement, we have plenty of evidence that previous to the existance of human beings, climate changes of at least this magnitude and potentially greater did occur many times. Yes, these were often associated with species dying out, but the earth survived. We actually (as explained above) know very little about the rate of these early changes. Geologically, there is actually a great deal of evidence to suggest climate changes can and have occured very swiftly (as in a few years or even months) in the past. For instance, there is evidence that the last ice age ended in decades, not hundreds of years.

Mad Mike
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Some additional help

I guess someone from the Church of England is for any 'additional help' they might be able to bring to bear. Power of prayer or maybe something from a higher being? However, it's good to see the BBC using real scientists with backed up and properly peer reviewed papers on the subject.

Mad Mike
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Re: Considering...

Sorry!! How does that work. There are just as many looms out there threatening climate change deniers as well. There are loons on both sides threatening the other. This isn't a one way street.

I've got camps near me with climate change vigilantes threatening anyone who tries to chop down some trees and using force on occasion. The nutters are both sides of the fence, not just one.

Mad Mike

Re: Downvoted, eh?

Bearing in mind both I and 'g e' got 3 downvotes each, I think we can count the number of whackjobs looking at this topic!!

I thought my post was pretty neutral and didn't lean particularly in any direction on the subject. Just shows that the whackjobs will downvote anyone who doesn't post as a whackjob of their own particular type, whether pro or against. Those in the middle just get shot at by all sides. Anyone who's ever worked for the UN has known that for years.

Mad Mike

Surprising....how?

And this is surprising how exactly. To be fair to the BBC, it's not just them, but vast numbers of organisations that are playing the climate change game for all its worth. Energy companies do it to persuade governments to give lovely bribes (sorry incentives) for building windfarms, governments use it to justify taxing more and more etc.etc. The BBC is the tip of the iceberg.

Now, I'm not a sceptic. I accept climate change is occuring and has been since the planet was formed. However, I also acknowledge that whether mans input is 1% or 99% makes no difference as we're never going to significantly impact this downwards and change will continue regardless. I prefer to take the rather more pragmatic view of just accepting change is happening and moving with it. Stop trying to fight it and do what has worked for millions of years for our forebears; simply adjust with it. If the sea rises, move inland. If one area can no longer support crops, move to another area etc.etc. Yes, border (a relatively recent invention) are a bit of a problem, but that could be fixed far easier and cheaper than climate change!!

We're never going to dramatically reduce our impact on the climate as even if those who potentially could afford to implement change, the developing world (and some others) who can't, won't simply stop. Also, the developed world in implementing the changes will simply fall victim to the countries who don't and are therefore massively cheaper etc. India, China, Asia (pretty much in general) etc. are not about to do much about it. Brazil ditto etc.

Now, amongst all this is a need to understand the changes more and therefore be able to predict them and therefore implement the changes in good time. However, this is being dramatically impacted by both sides ignoring the other and the purile debates going on, which centre pretty much on name calling and vested interests rather than the actual scientific facts and good scientific discussion. Contrary to those in favour of MMGW, there are some pretty good, highly intelligent people who deny mans impact (to the extend supposed) on pretty good evidence and data. Equally, the reverse is true.

Rather than try and stifle debate, we need to be having a really good, proper scientific debate where data is properly released in full (yep, a reference to a certain Anglian university), analysed by lots of different people and the results discussed sensibly. Then, we can implement the changes necessary, not to try and stop it necessarily, but to adjust with it.

Greenland ice did not melt in baking +8°C era 120k years ago

Mad Mike
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Re: Fact checking

@Loyal Commentator.

We also know as fact that the 'normal' conditions for our planet (i.e. most common in the past) is for no (or a lot less) ice. In most of history, the earth has either had no ice, or considerably less at the poles and other places. In geological time, the earth is 'odd' right now. That's why people believe there are masses of oil and gas etc. under the antarctic. The reason being this used to be dense jungle and forest!!

So, what are we actually trying to achieve? Perhaps we're simply trying to keep the earth in a state that it doesn't want to be in. Maybe the ice should melt. Humans have been around for a tiny period of time and its only because we like this climate that we believe it should continue forever.

Climates change over the centuries and millenia normally. There's nothing unusual about that. We know the coastline of India was once far further into the Indian Ocean than it is today because we've found settlements several miles out. So, we know the coastline has change over our (as in human beings) puny existence. You only have to look at Darwin to understand what we need to do. One of the characterstics most needed to survive is the ability to adapt. Animals that can't adapt tend to die out much quicker than those that can. It is, in fact, one of the reasons we still exist....because we could adapt!! So, that's simply what we need to do. If coastline changes, move with it and relocate the people. If the temperature changes, move, build differently, etc.etc. Don't try to stop the change, move with it. It's only governments, countries and politicians that prevent this from happening with artificial boundaries like borders etc.

Don't forget, the big oil and gas reserves under the deserts of the Middle East didn't get there by magic. It's because they weren't once desert!!

Mad Mike
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Re: Is there a way I can filter out crap posts?

@Andrew van der Stock.

I think you're taking a rather extreme view. A lot of your comments are simply wrong as well. The reality is that nobody really knows what's happening. There simply isn't enough data over a long enough period and good enough models to really know. However, because of money, the overwhelming view is that we're the cause and we have to fix it. Is there evidence of this? Some. Is there evidence against this? Some.

Scientists, governments and politicians, contrary to your belief, actually love climate change being mankinds fault. Scientists get lovely big, fat grants to go and research all this and are effectively being paid out of the money provided. Maybe not directly, but certainly indirectly. There are also tons of advisor, business positions being created out of it. So, scientists love it. Continued, gainful employment. If it was shown that mankinds impact on climate change was tiny and there was nothing we could do about, climate scientists would be in the dole queue in their thousands!! So, climate scientists have a very big vested interest in it being our fault and ours to fix.

Governments and politicians love it as well for one simple reason. It gives a brilliant excuse for raising taxation. Just look at what's happening in the UK. Fuel duty escalator. Tax on fuel to power and heat your home etc.etc. Do you ever hear of a politician saying 'We'll tax that less because it's environmentally friendly?' Not normally. It's normally increase the taxation on the unfriendly things. So, they love it because it fills their coffers and gives them something to justify it. Yes, they have to spend some on research to justify that, but the tax take far outweighs the expense.

Of course, companies have the reverse agenda, but they have a couple of simple options. If you pollute a lot, move to a country (or relocate manufacturing) that doesn't care of doesn't particularly tax according to pollution...say China for instance. Or, simply charge the customer more and blame climate change/taxes/the government etc.etc. Either way, win win. It's interesting that the greatest reduction in CO2 emissions in the USA has come about in the last decade and is largely due to their use of shale gas!!

Generally speaking, when you don't actually know what's happening with any degree of certainly and/or the effects of such change, you shouldn't take a radical approach in any direction. You shouldn't go hell for leather against climate change, tax the population to death and cripple yourself and your country in an attempt to stop something which may not exist, or be preventable. Similarly, you shouldn't totally ignore it and do nothing either. What you do is keep going, implementing changes as you can where it is practical. Should we be encouraging recycling and stuff like that? Of course. Should we be encouraging people to drive less? Of course, for lots of reasons. Should we be building wind farms? No. They are useless, require massive subsidies and are actually very emissions expensive to build. On top of that, they're very, very unrealiable. In fact, in this country, wind farms tend to produce nothing when we need it most...i.e. during extremely cold spells in winter which normally come with a calm.

It's anticipated that 15% of your energy bills is now made up of subsidies for 'climate change' and energy saving based technologies, like windfarms, solar PV etc.etc. This is silly. None of these technologies is particularly reliable and/or cost effective and/or efficient. Let's use that money (if we have to pay it) on something potentially sensible. e.g. wave and tidal power. They were pretty much ignored for years in the rush to wind power, yet are far more suited. They are predictable, reliable and hydraulic produces far more power than pneumatic. Rather than rush to wind, we should have waited a decade, perfected these other technologies and deployed them. We'd be in a much better position now.

Crap security lands Sony £250k fine for PlayStation Network hack

Mad Mike

Re: Lapdog not watchdog

Ah. Now you're changing your statement. You said their security was good. I simply pointed out that security is more than just infrastructure etc. and also about how people use said infrastructure. Yes, to our knowledge, their infrastructure has been secure and that's true. However, that wasn't what you said.

Mad Mike

Re: Lapdog not watchdog

Sorry, I should add that I don't believe any system using userids and passwords can ever be secure. You're simply playing the odds. Any password can be cracked if given enough. The reality is that provided your password is not an obvious one (such as 'password' etc.) and is more than say 6 characters long, it can be secure. The biggest problem with most sites at the moment is that they don't have a method of disabling and locking an account if too many attempts at the password are made. If the account is locked and an extended mechanism has to be followed to reactivate it, brute force and dictionary attacks etc. can't work. You can make your password longer and more and more complex, but ultimately, you're simply playing an odds game, which ultimately, you'll loose.

Mad Mike

Re: Lapdog not watchdog

Well, yes and no. The underlying mechanisms may allow for good security, but security isn't just about the mechanisms. It's also about the users running sensible practices as well. You could argue that any solution based on userids (or email accounts or something) and passwords is never secure as it allows the user to reduce the security close to zero if they choose silly passwords etc.

Security is software, hardware and procedures from all involved, not just Microsoft (in this case).

Mad Mike
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Re: I see you missed out the important bits

"That's the point, Nobody knows for sure if anything was ever taken. I know it's nice to play the Sony hate game and pretend it's a given that there was. However nothing has ever surfaced, no increases in fraud as a result, no mass hacking as a result of reuse of logins/passwords/DOB The problem is, there is just no way of proving that 100%, so Sony have to assume they did (even thou they almost certainly didn't)."

I think you're missing the point here. Our silly legal system generally bases the penalty on what happens rather than what could have. The fact that the data was or was not used fraudulently is actually irrelevant. The important part is that Sony took negligent care of your data. For example. If I paid you to look after my home whilst I was on holiday and came home to find all the windows and doors open, I'm likely to be somewhat p**sed. If all the contents are missing, I'll be even more p**sed. However, even if the contents are untouched, I'll still be heavily p**sed, just relieved that you/I got away with it. The crime is leaving the windows and doors open. Whether the stuff is nicked or not probably comes down to pure luck.

Similarly, if someone falls asleep at the wheel and crashes into a field, he'll probably face a bigger insurance premium etc., but that's all. Police are likely not to even be involved. However, if the same person sell asleep at a different place and crashed into a crowd of people killing several, they'd probably end up in jail etc.etc. However, the crime is falling asleep. Whether you kill anyone or get away with it is pure luck.

Therefore, Sony are guilty of the crime of negligently storing your information and making it easily available for people to steal. Whether someone does or does not could well be down to pure luck. In other words, the outcome is not really relevant in many cases to the size and magnitude of the crime. The outcome is often unpredictable, very different for the same crime, but the penalty should be the same for both. Why should someone face a smaller penalty simply because they got lucky?

Mad Mike

Re: I see you missed out the important bits

"* Personal data is unlikely to be used for fraudulent purposes

* No complaints received to date.

* There is no evidence to suggest that ENCRYPTED payment card details were accessed."

If personal data (such as DOB, address etc.etc.) that was all taken is unlikely to be used for fraudulent purposes, why does the ICO warn everyone to take great care of just such data? What about all the fraud that goes on at the moment, using exactly this sort of information? Stupid statement.

If no complaints have been received, this is simply because people realise it's a pointless exercise!!

No evidence of ENCRYPTED payment card details being accessed? What about unencrypted?

Sony never learnt out of this anyway. I had to do something with my sons account and Sony tried to insist on me sending them a scan of my passport, with picture and all the details!! That couldn't be used for dodgy purposes could it!!

Mad Mike

Re: why not let the victims decide compensation

Yes, rather double standards here. In America, fines for say copyright infringement are on a per track basis. So, a few thousands and the fine is a lot of money. So, by their logic, if any action is brought in the US, the fine should be on a per person impacted basis, with each case being worth a couple of thousand. Now, that would be a fine. Never see it happen though.

In this country, this case simply sends the message that you can be totally negligent in your security and lose important and financial information on millions, but the fine isn't even a quid a time. Pathetic. Rather than encouraging firms to implement the right security and take information security seriously, this rather does the opposite. Arguably, the ICO are operating against their brief.

Mad Mike

Amazing

I remain amazed about this for three reasons.

1. Someone dared take on a major business entity such as Sony.

2. Sony have the audacity to claim it is being unfairly treated and are planning an appeal. Their security was pitiful, yet they're spending their entire time blaming everyone but them.

3. The fine is pitiful. Given the magnitude of the loss and the data involved, the fine should have been orders of magnitude greater than £250k. Not sure what the ICOs limits are, but double digit millions and maybe higher should be the fine for this level of negligence.

Fujitsu launches 'Athena' Sparc64-X servers in Japan

Mad Mike
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Re: investment protection

My thoughts exactly. Whilst we have a reasonable amount of Solaris/Sparc servers at the moment, it is not our first Unix choice. The reason? Simple. For many years, Sun could not tell us what's coming out next month, let alone what they intend in 6-12 months, let alone years. Oracle came along and told us they had a proper roadmap. It wasn't the best in the world, but showed T5 and then T6 coming along etc. The T- range going up market a lot into bigger boxes with more processors etc. They said the M series would be relaunched with what were effectively T processors with more cache and a few other changes. That was why clock speed increased a lot on T4 and core count decreased in readiness for this. All seemed to make reasonable sense and sounded plausible and certainly the best story we'd heard for years.

Did they mention a new M series (or whatever they want to call it) from Fujitsu? Sold through Oracle? Nope. Did they mention anything about what's in this article? Nope. Did they in fact imply that Fujitsu wasn't going to play such a bit part in their plans? Yes. In fact, they even went as far as to imply Fujitsu would resell Oracle T based servers. In fact, everything said Oracle would be performing all future Sparc processor work.

So, looks like we're back to Oracle not having a roadmap they are prepared to share and work to. And their salesmen get upset when I say their lack of credible roadmap is a major impediment to us!!

€1.5bn swiped from EU cards: Fraud mainly takes place in the US

Mad Mike

Re: Liabillity for fraud

That's as maybe AC, but that's once you've established fraud has occured. The issue is doing so. If the bank can show the correct PIN has been entered, they simply invite you to prove it wasn't you. This is sometimes easy (different continent etc.), but often very hard. Hence, if the correct PIN has been entered, in a majority of cases, it isn't counted as fraud (as the customer can't prove it wasn't him) and therefore isn't covered. Banks constantly go on about you being the only person who knows the PIN and the system making it impossible for anyone else to get the PIN, hence it must have been you or someone else you gave the PIN to etc. As the bank simply has to 'show the transaction was made by you', they cite the correct PIN number as such proof or if someone else, evidence that you've broken the T&Cs by revealing your PIN!!

So, the 2009 law was rather pointless really. This is all becoming a rerun of the ATM issues where people insisted it wasn't them and the banks continued for years to insist they were foolproof etc.etc. A lot of people lost money that way.

Mad Mike

Re: Verified by VISA is horrible

Depending on the type of card involved, a PVV may be stored on the stripe of the card. This is the PIN Validation Value and can be used to validate the PIN entered at a terminal. Now, it's NOT the PIN, but at it can be used to determine if an entered PIN is correct and the process is known, it is possible to derive the PIN from it!! The only question is the processing power and number of combinations. This is a VISA standard and is talked about here, amongst other places.

http://www.gae.ucm.es/~padilla/extrawork/visapvv.html

Given the processing power now available for a relatively small amount of money...............

Mad Mike

Simple Method Commonly Used

In line with several of the other people responding, I do understand how chip and PIN works. However, the simplist (and I know common) method of fraud is actually missing. PIN entry is observed in say a supermarket. Said miscreant (often behind you in queue), along with maybe a mate or two, then proceeds to steal your card. Now, if in a supermarket, there is probably a decent window to use said card and PIN before you notice, get in touch with the bank, and finally, cancel the card etc. So, plenty of scope to make purchases with both the card and PIN. Liabiltiy for this is with the customer, not the bank, as the correct PIN was entered.

Sometimes the simplist and easiest method is the best and avoids all the technical nasties. Course, this isn't the organised crime angle, so often gets ignored. I've known someone have their card stolen in Redhill and have it used in Leeds before they were aware it was gone. Don't think people realise their card is missing straight away. It is often as not hours and even days in some circumstances.

Mad Mike

Of course, the change in terms and conditions to make it the customers problem if the right PIN code is entered, hasn't biased the figures at all? I imagine there's still a substantial amount of fraud going on, it's just that the PIN is used and therefore it isn't counted. That doesn't mean it wasn't fraudulent. Peoples PINs are easy to get just by watching most people at tills etc. The number that cover the terminal or obscure vision is very small. I've heard of plenty of cases where a suitably placed camera can be used to get them on-masse.

'Leccy-starved Reg hack: 'How I survive on 1.5kW'

Mad Mike

It's a con

As Iberdrola are offering to increase the capacity in exchange for certain monetary inducements and moving the meter etc.etc., is this not just a con to take more money from you and get you to do a load of work for them? Also, as Spain has a smart metering programme (albeit delayed like everyone elses), why does the meter need to be outside? Does it matter where it is? Me thinks this isn't so much to do with network capacity, but more about economics.

Kim Dotcom flashes his rack

Mad Mike

Re: thank god there are still some decent folks out there

I'm sure this is only by accident, but Dotcom is actually pursuing an important point that will have ramifications way beyond his limited implementation. Yes, I'm sure his reasoning is greed and getting money, but that doesn't alter the principle being good. Used to be that the law was written for the good and protection of the masses. More recently, the law has been more and more written for the good and protection of a very small subset of the population. Hence, the 'rebels' springing up all over the place.

The above is a good example. Very few would say that copyright is a bad idea. However, there is defending copyright and over the top jackboot enforcement. We're rapidly getting to the point that the penalty for killing someone will be less than being found in possession of dodgy MP3s. This cannot be right. When people can be bullied and threatened over their child (or even them) 'attempting' to download something, you really know its gone too far. No copyright violation has even occurred and their lives are made a misery.

It's not just copyright violation that's going this way. All aspects of life and the legal system are. For instance when one country can invade another on the basis of seriously sexed up 'intelligence' (personally, I'd call it lies) and yet nobody takes responsbility. Everyone just turns round, shrugs their shoulders and keeps counting the cash.

Pentagon hacker McKinnon will NOT be prosecuted in the UK

Mad Mike

Looks like cruel and unusual punishment to me.

Title says it all. If he were American, you would have thought this was banned under the constitution.

File-sharing mom begs US Supremes to void bloated RIAA fine

Mad Mike

Re: And how much so far

So, once you've gone a certain distance in the legal process, you should be stopped, regardless of the merits of your case? Effectively, there is a point that says regardless of merit your case shouldn't continue because it's costing some money? Why not just cut out the middle man and say whatever companies want they get?

Mad Mike
Unhappy

Re: What really happened?

That's the kind of nonsense law you get when you allow the beneficiaries to create the law and fines. In most places, this would be called a conflict of interest, but not the good old USA. Not that the UK is that far behind really and many other countries seem to be following the same route.

How can it be $8-50k per MP3? Stupid money. The only purpose that kind of fine can have is not restitution, but ensuring the person is f**ked for their entire life.

Schmidt 'very proud' of Google's tiny tax bill: 'It's called capitalism'

Mad Mike

And claiming expenses wrongly isn't?

I don't really see how MPs have a leg to stand on here. They create the laws and these companies are obeying said laws. Yes, it's immoral, but perfectly legal. With MPs; they set up the expenses scheme (rules, same as the law in theory) and still couldn't keep to it. So, not only were they immoral, but also illegal!! How can a group that sets the rules, then fall foul of them!! Just shows how incompetent they are..........

Mad Mike

Re: Proud... I would be too, but

You really think Google can be threatened in this manner? They own politicians and in some cases, whole countries. They'll simply move their base of operation again.

Anyone who complains about his comments is basically complaining about capitalism. What other sort of system do we want to move to? A business is owned by its shareholders and should do everything it can to maximise the return for the shareholders in the medium to long term. The only way you can change their behaviour is to threaten their long term profits (and therefore dividends) to force a change of behaviour. But, how do you do that?

Mad Mike

Re: VAT

Theoretically, but in reality, it's part of the price. if corporation tax were cut, or even abolished, and VAT increased, the price should not really increase. You're simply moving where the tax is taken.

Problem is, the final sale price is not necessarily related to the profit on the item and therefore it would be almost impossible to set a sensible VAT rate that worked for everyone.

Tor node admin raided by cops appeals for help with legal bills

Mad Mike

Re: What's he done

They are part of a communications path, whether physical infrastructure or logical functionality. Sort of like the various layers of the networking stack. On the basis of your argument, the inventors of SSL should be arrested and thrown in jail for making the packets unreadable!! Perhaps that is a better analogy. What the difference between SSL and TOR. Even if you can tell where the packet went, that doesn't help much unless you know the content. Or, are you going to investigate anyone who once sent or received a network packet from a known paedophile?

Mad Mike

Re: What's he done

But TOR isn't adding anything to current, just making it simpler and easier. The traffic into TOR is just as visible as traffic without TOR, so no change there. Also, what's the difference between bouncing around various proxies in 'unfriendly' places and going through TOR. Yes, the ISP can tell you where the packets went and you can ask the proxy admin where they went, then the next etc.etc. However, once you meet a proxy in an unhelpful place, the trail stops. So, are we now going to investigate anyone who hosts a proxy for the same reason?

Effectively the misdealings of a few are being used as reason for putting the entire population under surveillance. That's the start of a totalitarian state. Surveillance is always the start point. East Germany and the Stasi would have loved to have some of these laws!! Essentially, what is wrong with people have private conversations or communications?

I guess the TOR network could be setup in such a way that each admin can keep records and reveal them to the authorities on demand (there are other ways of obscuring where the packets are going), but I suspect it wouldn't make any difference. They would still go after the admins as they can't be brought to heel and can appear and disappear as end point much easier and quicker than ISPs do. This smacks totally of control rather than anything else.

Mad Mike

What's he done

Surely, a network such as TOR is effectively performing the same function as an ISP? It's simply providing an infrastructure layer over which people send traffic? An ISP isn't held liable for what goes over its network. So, why should anything to do with TOR? They don't know what's in the traffic in the same way as an ISP doesn't. So, why can't people running these dark nets have the same protections? Obviously, should they become aware of something dodgy happening, they should deal with it in much the same way an ISP would.

Seems to be a matter of ensuring the authorities have control over anyone they want. ISPs are basically under control, but TOR admins etc. are not. So, whilst logically they're doing the same thing (simply providing bandwidth), the TOR admins have to go as they're not under control. Nothing to do with the law or natural justice. Simply ensuring you are powerful and control the world.

Kim Dotcom shows off new mega service

Mad Mike

Re: @Psyx

"Seriously? He's actually a saint?"

Nobody is saying he's a saint. However, it isn't up to him (or anyone else) to prove he is. It's up to the appropriate prosecuting authorities to prove he isn't. Without your argument, you would deciding guilt or innocence on the basis of the distance between their eyes.

"If they really want him that bad, a wire or communications tap put in place now would undoubtedly catch plenty of references to his prior knowledge of illegal use."

Well, they could do if it a LEGAL wire or communications tap. Unfortunately, the last time they tried that, it was declared illegal. They'd be really brave (or very stupid) to try that stunt again.

"The COURT has to assume innocence until proven guilty. Investigations and prosecution services tend to start by knowing the person is guilty and then assembling the evidence to prove it in court. And I don't think any of us can look each other in the eye and proclaim Kim isn't basically trying to flick the bird at the authorities and carry on doing what he has been doing. Eventually, he will get nailed for it, because deliberately annoying massive industries is not a clever thing to do."

Wholesale wrong. Proper investigative and prosecution services start by SUSPECTING they're guilty and then set about proving it. Once they have proven it to themselves, they attempt to prove it in court and if successful KNOW they're guilty.

Mad Mike
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Re: @Invidious Aardvark

"Look: Like it or not, people who actually work in the legal profession with actual law degrees are going to have a very good attempt at nicking Dotlard (yes: It's childish, but frankly if I wanted anything less than childishness, I wouldn't get my IT news from El Reg) for what he's doing and going to be doing. We will see just how well he gets away with it when he invariably gets taken to court. Until then both of our legal theories are just the idle speculation of people who don't actually get paid to prosecute people."

Yep, you're right. The best legal minds in several countries, some governments and law enforcement agencies have already had one go and made such a good attempt at it. After all; they got him and can get him again. The only problem is; they didn't get him. So far they have shut him down, but the judicial system has now declared pretty much everything they did illegal and even opened the opportunity for him to sue for damages, probably running into hundreds of millions, maybe even a billion. That's going to hurt. So, the legal profession and best legal minds so far have dismally failed. They have even managed to make him into a good guy in the minds of a good few people.

"No, I'm conflating a history of running sites blatantly used for illegal fire sharing with a desire to run another website used for illegal file sharing. Once again: Prosecution services aren't morons."

So, what you're saying is 'once a crim, always a crim'. Legal systems have lots of safeguards to prevent exactly this. Otherwise, someone up on a burglary charge would simply have their previous rap sheet of similar offences and be found guilty without any evidence at all. After all, they've done it before!!

Mad Mike
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Re: The Law is an Ass and always Falters and Fails against Advanced Intelligence

@Psyx.

I think the evidence is all around. Basically, judges get 'perks' of one form or another from various industries. Politicians (who 'craft' the laws) get 'election funds' etc. from the same sorts of industries. Lawyers get their money from various industries. The better paid the lawyer, the more chance you have in court generally. So, all in all, it pretty much looks like the politicians are in hock to certain businesses and make laws appropriately, the judges are in hock as well, and the businesses in question can afford the best lawyers and therefore 'buy' the law that way.

You only have to look at where politicians 'election' funds come from and evidence like that to see how the money is flowing and what it's buying. All with a veneer of legitimacy.

I actually like what Dot Com is doing as it is playing the politicians, courts and laws at their own games. He is creating a veneer over his business to hide any dodgy dealings that may be going on (not saying there are dodgy dealings, just that there could be). This is exactly the same thing that politicians etc. do with their 'incomes'.

Mad Mike
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Re: @Invidious Aardvark

"Which is pretty easy. And it's not likely to be particularly difficult to prove beyond reasonable doubt that the new site's admins know that it's being used for illegal purposes." (Psyx)

If this were the case, then the owners of Google and many other websites would already be in prison. Maybe DotCom knows it will be used for illegal purposes, but Google is already used for illegal purposes as well (and so are many, many other websites), but I don't see their owners running scared.

Just because you KNOW your website COULD be used for illegal activities does not make you complicit in these activities and guilty of breaking any law. You have to be shown to have KNOWN and ACTIVELY aided in the criminal enterprise. Simply providing a service that is used both legally and illegally does not qualify in this. Otherwise, every car dealer would be guilty as they must KNOW that sometimes their cars are used in armed robberies?

Littlest pirate’s Winnie-the-Pooh laptop on the way home

Mad Mike
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Re: Poor baby

I think the arse is you as no copyright violation (or piracy as you like to incorrectly call it) actually took place. Indeed, as you appear to have incorrectly called someone a pirate on a public forum, perhaps you should be ready for a libel action. Even the media organisation has admitted she didn't breach copyright anywhere as the download did not work!!

A truly epic fail. I assume your paycheck from the media companies is winging its way in the post.

Mad Mike

Re: Below the age of criminal responsibility

"Exploring the other side of the argument doesn't make me an excuse mechanism; it makes me rational."

You're not really doing this as even the organisation in question has admitted publically that do successful download actually occured and therefore no crime had been committed. So, very pertinent points are in question and there is no disagreement between sides, so seeing each side is irrelevant.

"Except you just berated me for not knowing that they take it away and make a COPY which is then checked, else the evidence won't stand in court. Make your damned mind up! So they couldn't just sit there and check it straight away, could they? By your own admission they'd have to take it and examine it. Which would take a while, with said laptop stuck in a plastic bag in the meantime and no immediate resolution. "

The normal requirement for any police action is for the plaintiff to have reasonable suspicion or information that a crime has been committed. As the the organisation in question has admitted no crime too place (no successful download), there is no reasonable suspicion or information to suspect a crime has been committed and therefore the correct response from the police is ...... go away. Now, let's suppose somehow some reasonable evidence copyright violation occured at the house did happen to exist. The internet connection would be in the fathers name and therefore any raid would be against the father, not against the child (they are different legal entities). It is not for the father to prove the laptop is his daughters, but for the police to prove it is his.

All in all, the case revolves around several basic facts that aren't in doubt.

1. The police shouldn't even have been involved in the first place as no crime had even occured.

2. The police could not prove the laptop was the fathers. They have to take his word unless they can prove otherwise or show probable cause to believe otherwise. They don't appear to have done this.

All in all, the police seem to have acted like many police forces all over the world and taken the opportunity to walk all over little Joe public without any real thought. Due to their bill of rights and constitution, a heap of prosecutions fail each year in the US because of this. Police constantly fail to follow correct protocol and procedure and in doing so, let a lot of bad criminals get away with things. It isn't limited to the US either, as the raid on Dotcoms mansion in NZ proves. The NZ courts have shown the NZ police acted like a bunch of stormtroopers without proper permission and orders etc. It seems to be unfortunate, but a significant number of police officers seem to believe being called PC whatever gives them the right to do anything and everything they like. You see it in the country and others all over Europe. Problem is, they let a lot of bad criminals get away with it by doing so, whilst making perfectly decent, ordinany peoples lives hard and stressful.

Interestingly; whilst Scandanavian countries are reknowned for the human rights record, a lot of this is false. Go and take a real look rather than listen to what they say (and the world tables etc.) and you find a lot of nasties lurking in their cupboards. Take enforced steralisation of mentally ill, restarted etc. people in Sweden which went on into the 70s at least (although the majority earlier). Yeah; really good human rights there.......not.