* Posts by Trevor_Pott

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Apple threatens Java with death on the Mac

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@AnotherNetNarcissist

This is getting WAY to long of a thread. Let me cut the replied down here.

You said:

Java users are Oracle's customers not Apple's. Finally, the "I have no time for greed or **naked self-interest**" comment. With you on the greed, but business is business, the aim of which is to make more money than your competitor. The naked slf interest bit, did't you say that this would cause **you** headaches with your customers? how is this any different?

My Response:

Bull. Java users are customers of whomever makes their JVM. They aren’t Oracle’s “customers’ unless they are using an Oracle product! As to the naked self interest bit…I am angry at Apple because this will cause me headaches, yes. I am MORE angry at Apple because it will affect APPLE’S CUTOMERS – some of whom are also my customers – generally decent people who don’t deserve to get shat on by corporate power games so already rich people can nick another bent copper. Indeed, as much of a headache as this creates for me, it large is in my own best interests. There is now Yet Another Reason to keep me employed! Helping our Mac customers transition off the Macintosh platform will keep me busy for the next eight months at least.

It doesn’t mean I think it’s fair, or right. Apple have done their customers a disservice. Your argument with me rests entirely on “these people are Oracle’s responsibility.” If you honestly believe that, don’t bother responding to this comment again. They aren’t. Apple sold them the computer. Apple promised them everything they wanted would “just work.” When they bought the computer Java worked just fine. In no way was the customer ever exposed to “Sun” or “Oracle.” The customer interaction was 100% with Apple – it was the company they bought from and the company they put their trust in.

That trust was obviously misplaced.

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@AnotherNetNarcissist

"The majority of Apple users aren't "deeply reliant on Java-based applications""?!?

Why should everyone be beholden to "the majority of users?" You do realise that the extension of this logic is simply to remove everything from the computer except a browser, e-mail and an office package? I mean after all, these are the only things that "the majority of users" are deeply reliant on.

In the case of my specific cluster of Mac users, they /are/ deeply reliant on java-based applications. Shockingly enough, they are the only ones I care about. I couldn't give a right-angled twist about "the majority of users."

As to the fanboy bit, I can "fanboy" on anyone who would defend an indefensible move by a company. Apple botched this. There was a right way to do it, and a wrong way. They chose the wrong way. I don't care if you are Microsoft, Google, Oracle or Bob's Deli and Meat Shop. When you pull something you have supported for a long time, you give adequate warning that such is occurring and you put the minimal amount of effort in to ensure your customers have a means to obtain a usable alternative.

In this case, Apple should have publically announced the deprecation along with a release of code either to the community or an official passing of the torch (and code) to Oracle. Full bloody stop.

Nothing else in my mind would have been a remotely adequate way to deal with the deprecation of a technology that regular (non-geek) end users are reliant on. If you want to try to tell me either that regular end-users are supposed to go read the release notes on bloody everything to detect little deprecation notices or that they should be expected to go grab/compile an open source JVM and then PRAY their apps run on the incomplete version then /you/ can go twist.

That is a bunch of nerd-centric “you should heave a licence to be allowed to drive on the information superhiway” crap that I will have no part of. Computers exist to make our lives easier. Apple have built an entire company on the promise of the easiest to use computers of them all. (They “just work!”) They have in this instanced failed their users and no amount of name calling is going to convince me otherwise.

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Pissed at Apple because...

If Apple had never produced a JVM I would not have cared. Their users would never have gotten deeply reliant on Java-based applications, instead continuing down the well trodden path of past Mac users: having to own a PC to get the real work done. Instead, Apple introduced support for java...then pulled it. Anyone in the meantime who gained Mac user customers for a Java application now has to find a way to support those folks.

Apple users will never believe or accept that Apple has abandoned them, or can ever do anything wrong. That means that in the minds of Mac users, anyone who is using Java to provide functionality will now be bad/wrong/evil/whatever. Had Jobs simply left Java alone...Mac users would never have gotten a taste of being able to use these tools on their systems. They would have maintained a separate PC and that would be that. Instead, because it "used to work just fine on my Mac," the company providing the java software will now have to provide the alternate software (or hardware) at their own expense.

If you aren't committed to supporting a feature, don't introduce it. I don't care which company you are. All this shows me is how little Apple cares about anyone, once they have their money. If Apple wants to even begin to make good on this, they'll hand their code over to Oracle. The reason Oracle (and Sun before them) don't have an Apple JVM is because Ape have closed graphics APIs they won't share. You know: the sort of shit MS pulled before getting spanked for monopolistic practices.

As to behaving and shouting…NO I WILL NOT BEHAVE. AND I”LL SHOUT IF’N I WANT TO. I’m pissed; as much at the baying sheeple that follow in the shadow of their soulless uncaring capitalistic overlord as I am at the man and the company themselves. I’m deeply sorry if I hold companies to not only the finely-detailed legalese letter of their propaganda but the spirit of it as well.

If you base your entire image an marketing campaigns on the premise of sucking in the stupid and the gullible using ideas such as “it will just work” then you had damned well better deliver. You go ahead and try to justify or rationalise this move however you want. What I see is my customers receiving reduced long-term functionality via lack of support simply so that jobs can further tighten the noose on competition. I see my company and my customers being screwed so some rich man can make another bent copper.

AS much as I blame the greedy corporatists involved for this…I blame the fanbois far more. If it wasn’t for your drum-banging and your incessant wide-eyed mewing at everyone that would listen about how great and easy to use Macs are then the gullible would never have been sucked in. They wouldn’t be in positions of very soon not being able to run critical software their businesses require. They would have bought themselves a PC for work uses, and none of their would ever have been an issue.

So – fanboy – I have only one request. I don’t even care how rude it is: GET LOST. Haven’t your kind done enough damage already? Stay away from me, and stay away from my customers.

After all…we need computers that ACTUALLY “just work.”

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@AnotherNetNarcissist && @Tony Smith

The issue is the closed graphics APIs. IF Apple hand over their code to Oracle so that they may carry on...then I am 100% okay with Apple ceasing support. TO expect Oracle to have to start this from scratch without access to the under-the-hood bits that the Apple JVM uses is madness.

Is Apple even a big enough market for Oracle to set about reproducing all that code? If they didn’t have to fight through all the hidden crap and/or try to make it work only with what is visible…probably. If they are reliant on trying to essentially duplicate what Apple have already done – but without the kind of under-the-hood access that Apple have – well…would you invest those kind of resources for less than 10% global share?

There’s a right way to do this sort of thing and there is a wrong way. I don’t care if Apple don’t want to support the JVM. That’s a business decision I can understand and even get behind. That said however, Apple are in a position of power over millions of users who are functionally dependant upon them. It is in my mind incumbent upon Apple to either release the code to the community or hand it over (likely with some strings attached) to a torch-bearer such as Oracle.

Deprecating Java off the stack without formal announcement and a passing of the torch is simply abandoning your users. If you honestly believe that the obligations a vendor like Apple has to its customers ends the instant money changes hands then we have some very deeply different life philosophies. In my world-view Apple sells continual support and the concept of the system “just working” as part and parcel of the hook they use to lure in customers. That carries with it the responsibility to follow through with support and customer-focused management of situations exactly like this one.

Doing the right thing while still absolving themselves of the responsibility for supporting Java is not remotely outside of Apple’s capabilities. It wouldn’t even cost them that much. (Scan the code for third-party copywritten bits and release to community or hand off to Oracle.) The only two explanations I can see for Apple’s actions are

A) This is a move to limit competition via a medium-term plan to remove Java from the Apple platform.

B) Apple’s customers mean so little to them that they simply aren’t worth the minimal effort to do right by them.

I don’t really care for either reason, however either or both would be perfectly consistent with Apple’s previous actions.

Thus my anger at this whole situation.

As to “not passing the torch being pure speculation,” well…Apple is certainly free to make an announcement and put everyone’s mind at ease in this matter. Until then, there is simply no reason to assume they will do the right thing. There are plenty of reasons to assume they won’t. IN fact, the right thing would have been to make an announcement before formally deprecating Java, including a passing of the torch at the time. It is – to me – merely one more indication of how little that company values their customers.

I am sorry if that ruffles feathers, but I really do hold companies – and individuals – to high standards. I have no time for greed or naked self-interest. If you commit to something then you follow through. That includes customer support.

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@AnotherNetNarcissist

Actually, I do have a few choice words for Microsoft's abandonment of their own JVM. While in many cases it was a good thing (because there was a reference implementation that had /ALWAYS/ been available to move to /IMMEDIATELY/) there are still - to this day - applications which we are dependant on that can only use the MS JVM.

This means supporting systems using unpatchable software until we can find a developer to replace these apps. (The original developers having gone under.) Trust me, if I could find the prat who made that decision and lock him in a room there'd be more than a few choice words for them.

What should be noted however, is that the vast majority of customers weren't so affected. The Microsoft JVM existed SIDE BY SIDE with the reference implementation. This is simply not true of the Apple situation. So here we have something where Java goes away on the Mac, and no formal passing of the torch to someone willing to pick it up is occurring.

That just won't do.

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@Anonymous Coward

Last time I checked my birth certificate it was Trevor Pott. Though I am Canadian...

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I don't start off with a troll

I start off with an /ANGRY/. The Microsoft issue is completely irrelevant to this scenario. Microsoft put out a COMPETING JVM. That meant there was an official JVM in existance for that platform! You could always simply download the better JVM and install it. In this case there isn't. There isn't an announced plan to provide an orderly transition, no work with Oracle to ensure that they can and will produce a JVM to fill the gap, no mention of releasing the extant code so others can take up the challenge...nothing.

I don’t care about open source versus closed source, this company versus that. I don’t give an owl’s hoot if Apple, Oracle, Microsoft or the hobo down the street’s company are the ones to provide what is required so long as it bloody works. This isn’t about ideology. It is about making something “just work.”

Isn’t that Apple’s specialty? Where’s the arm waving greatness of his high mightiness The Jobs when it comes to actually providing for the end users and the organisations those end users interact with? In the case of this Java bit: nowhere to be seen. I don’t care if it is /possible/ that someone else develop a JVM for Mac. Apple took over development of their own JVM and they made a damned good one. Then it suddenly goes away with no formal announcement and no plans in place to pass the torch?

If you think I have no right to be very upset about that, well…that’s your problem. This directly affects me and more importantly it directly affects my customers. This is a decision that Jobs made which shoves the pointy end directly into the eye of regular Joes like me. Unlike fanbois I have no blinders nor any presence in the reality distortion field. I just have to support the damned things…and now I have to get all my customers to abandon the platform.

I am not amused.

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@ThomH

There are considerable difficulties in implmenting the OpenJVM under OSX. As to existing customers, they can use Java...for now. 8 months from now...12? Development moves on, and it takes advantages of new features as well as works around bugs in previous versions. 90%+ of our customer base is Windows. The developer who writes the Java software we are dependant upon keeps that software up to date such that when a new version of Java comes out, they are ready.

If Macs are stuck on the last shipped version (6u20) then they are buggered. 8 Months from now, they most likely won’t be able to use our application because it will be coded for a much newer version.

As to trying to walk people through installing the OpenJVM…forget it. It would cost us less to simply supply a separate physical system to our customers. They are not “savvy” folk. It’s why they chose Macs in the first place. They are quite simply /not/ going to be compiling anything from anywhere…and to walk them through it would be huge support dollars.

Moreover, that is suddenly asking us to pay for the development company in question to support three JVMs: The Oracle standard, the OpenJVM on OSX and Davlik. It is enough that we are paying to get the app repackaged for Android…we’re not about to spend that money again on Mac users.

Java on Macs is done. What exists will rapidly be out of date and the costs of supporting the OpenJVM will simply be too high.

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Eating your apple.

In corporatist America, Apple eats you!

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@AC

What are you talking about? When did Microsoft come into this? On a Windows or Linux system I get my JVM directly from Oracle. Works like a charm. On an Android system there are some wonky workarounds, 99.9%+ of the code for any standard java app I have worked on ports lovlingly and easily.

Only now, my customers using Macs can’t use the Java software they need to send us orders. This upsets these customers, who rely on us to print their orders (there aren’t a lot of other choices in this segment of the industry in our country.) It also upsets us, because we now have to either migrate our customers away from Mac (which I will be doing with a /vengeance/ now,) or supplying them with an alternate system on which to enter their orders.

Lovely.

I don’t see where at all Microsoft enters into this. The MS JVM died ages ago. This is about no longer being able to run critical Java applications on OSX.

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"Android will disappear as fast as it arrived."

HAH! Android will likely stick around as the viable alternative to Apple for quite some time...

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@J3

We have a java-based client for our customers to submit orders to us. Millions of dollars a year depend on that client, hundreds of thousands of which come from customers using Macs. So yeah, irritating customers? You bet!

I am at this moment downloading both Froyo x86 for testing as well as getting some smarttop ARM devices in on order. Java will work fine on Android with minimal recoding. It will probably be cheaper to give our few hundred Mac customers a small Android device on which to do their ordering than it will be to negotiate with the third-party developer to recode for objective-C.

@Apple:

Screw you Apple. With a lacquered bus. I was willing to overlook a lot of the walled garden tactics for a very long time. I was willing to support Mac customers and friends, respecting their “lifestyle choice” in the same way I was taught to be tolerant of anyone who exhibited non-mainstream differences.

No more.

I am not a widely influential man, but you have earned one more enemy this day. I will be putting the full force of my professional* efforts into educating individuals about exactly why they should not be choosing a platform that does not in turn offer them choice. You have made my life for at least the next several years unbelievably difficult with this one asinine decision.

I hope it haunts you.

*Note: professional efforts as a sysadmin. I believe wholeheartedly in objectivity as a writer, unless explicitly stated otherwise in the body of the article. As a sysadmin and as an individual however: game on.

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Apple:

Giving you exactly what we tell you that you want, every single day...

How to stop Apple and Google's great web lockdown

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@Steve Roper

I couldn't agree with you more on the megalomaniac thing. I never expected APple and Microsoft and Google to come together.

I am shamed however that the Linux community can't get over itself enough to do it either.

Q_Q GREEDY CORPORATIONS!

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@John Dee

I swear to you I didn't. I purposefully DIDN'T check the AC box. The site was doing somethign screwy - the devs were updating the code - and it ACed the post. I can't un-AC it. Q_Q

Seagate-Steve trash for Apple-Steve flash pash

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Alternately...

...we don't talk about the cost of Mac toys because we know better than to buy them? Something about getting better value for money.

--Sent from my netbook using my HTC Desire as a perfectly legitimate and carrier-allowed MiFi point. (The pair of which still cost me less than an Air.)

Microsoft sings Happy Birthday to Windows 7

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Windows 7

It's vaguely disconcerting to share a birthday with a Microsoft operating system. Still, Happy birthday software dude! I still like XP better...but you kick Vista's arse right good.

Google: Street View cars grabbed emails, urls, passwords

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The best way forward.

A large dose of no-strings-attached funding to an objective international organisation whose sole purpose is to develop and maintain privacy /enhancing/ technologies and promote their use and awareness amongst regular citizens.

If Google wants to show me that it supports privacy, it can put a large wad of cash towards taking digital privacy out of the darkened closet occupied by paranoid geeks and make it a part of everyday life. Nothing else will even come close to restoring my faith that Google does no evil.

Three punts big-screen HTC Android phone

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Canada just got the old Desire!

Oh, Canada.

You are so far behind. Two months ago we first got our hands on the original Desire. (The missus and I now have "his and hers smartphones.") Lovely toys. I would dearly love to take an HD for a spin though: see where the differences lie. Sadly, it will likely be quite some time before a carrier coughs one up here. Maybe I can worm myself into some sort of local conference or somesuch and get a peek.

The only problem is can’t actually think of any conferences in western Canada that HTC might be attending in the next few months. Ah, well…neat toys nonetheless!

Gosling blows lid off Jobs Java nonsense

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"Only to run Java?"

Bull. That isn't any form of requirement. I can show you several thousand folk who were sold Macs because "It's the best platform to do design/photography/graphic arts of any variety on!"

The hell of it is, there are lots of tools in these areas that rely on Java. From order entry software (such as that supplied by my company to our customers - one which is largely a standard in our industry) to various bits of image manipulation or calculation gear. I've even seem some printer driver interfaces for the larger professional inkjets rely on Java.

Just because you didn't buy your Mac "only to run Java" doesn't mean this won't bite you in the ass. There are a lot of small and medium businesses here that will get burned. Folk without the resources to have applications they bought recoded or the knowhow to find alternatives.

The whole thing is short-sighted and asinine. I hope Jobs twists for this.

Phone 7: Another Vista or another XP?

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@Dogged

What does that have to do with anything I said again?

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Gates Halo

Thank you Microsoft!

The missus was pondering a WP7 handheld, but you have saved me this nightmare! She's no fan of iTunes...and the reviews for WP7 are quite simply a joke. Now instead we have "his and hers smartphones." One device model - easier to support - easier to share accessories. The model? Oh, why it’s just a simple HTC…

...DESIRE.

Cheers!

EU privacy watchdog pans passenger data plans

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@Red Bren

"Mentioning 11/09 is the new Mentioning Hitler. What do we call this new Godwin Law?"

Bush's Folly would get my vote...

Vulture 1 sprouts wings and a tail

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Happy

@Lester

Physics schmisics. I don't care if the bloody thing tears itself into a million pieces on the way down. This is an epic amount of work, it looks bloody brilliant and the entire attempt drips "ballsy" and "awesome." It is a grand thing to have your favourite morning newspaper not take it self too seriously. Even more to have them involved in fully grown-up-like behaviour such as making paper aircraft.

Enjoy the flight and ignore any naysayers! Even if you miscalculated somewhere – it’s still an excellent way to spend one’s time. Where do we donate for towards Lewis' homemade aircraft carrier? The pressure is on the two of you to provide all of the EU's military capability now...

Mozilla man accuses Jobs of 'bypass the web' scheme

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Happy

"There was a time before it, and there will be a time after it."

I can't wait for the time after Apple. :)

Red Hat exec proposes end to IT suckage

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This sounds rational and well thought out.

From the head of a high profile IT company? Surely some mistake!

Cameron cocks up UK's defences - and betrays Afghan troops

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Why is there a defence section?

Hey, they let me write articles, so I think they'll let anyone in! Seriously though, Lewis is fantastic - whether the topic be boffins or boats, I personally enjoy every single article.

Ignore the naysayers Lewis! More like this I say!

Google ends all Street View Wi-Fi data collection

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Happy

@AC

If you are in Canada, then sure...drop me a line. Maybe we can get something going! I'd bet there are a few people who wouldn't mind taking part in such a program - and not all for paranoia reasons. Think about it: you would then have access to a greater range of routers than you had before. You could test for dead spots, device incompatibilities and other such things.

Screwing up Google is just a bonus. I like this plan!

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FAIL

Google: "we will no longer break the law."

We'll release an update than gets our users to do it for us.

</sigh>

RIM boss joins queue to kick Jobs

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@Geoff Campbell

+1 internets, sir.

12" tablet @ 1377x768. With a USB port and full-size SDHC slot (or two!). Please and thank you. Still waiting...

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@Tim Parker

I am not sure my comment really had much to do with the article. I had a terrible day yesterday and wanted to rant. A lot. When I feel all ranty, I end up posting long comments on El Reg...not all of them contextually applicable to the topic. I love writing, but my personal blog (http://www.trevorpott.com) has two readers and a goat. That leaves writing long comments which drive Sarah insane* on El Reg as my only real outlet.

*Sarah, I have not forgotten that I owe you flowers for being a monumental pain in the ass this year; any particular species you prefer?

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Well, shucks.

What a nice thing to say! Indeed, as previous commenters have pointed out, El Reg did have me writing a sysadmin blog here for a while. They took me on as an experiment; freelancer for a contract of 61 articles. Could a random commenter such as myself be taught enough to actually write for magazine like El Reg?

The success – or lack thereof – of that experiment is not something I am qualified to judge, but I will say that I had a whale of a good time. The initial part of the experiment was El Reg’s “you the expert” articles. Here, prolific commenters would be asked to participate as “reader experts” and contribute some content to an article on a given topic. Somehow my participation in the first round of these articles landed me a gig writing a few articles, but to my personal delight as a dedicated reader and commenter of El Reg they have continued the practice!

I don’t know if any further “reader experts” will be asked to pen articles on their lonesome. I do get the feeling that we will continue to see reader contributions in some form or another to regular articles…and I think that’s grand.

As to more writing by yours truly – only time will tell. To my continued astonishment, I was indeed asked back to write a “sysadmin blogger” article as part of a larger group of articles on a specific topic. I have no idea what the future holds beyond that…but I’m hopeful! I really enjoy writing for El Reg. Perhaps if I keep at it I will finally be able to cut the length of my articles down enough to make my editor happy. So much to learn – writing for a magazine is a completely different skillset than any I have had to exercise as a sysadmin.

In any case, thank you for the compliment – I hope to write more here, and one day to be as good a writer as the regulars whose work I personally admire.

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"Customers are getting tired of being told what to think by Apple."

*points at sales figures*

No they're not. Say what you want about a lot of things, but the hoi polloi want nothing to do with cross-comparing the version of this with the specs of that and determining who supports what, when and why. I’d go so far as to say that in a lot of ways, people are sick of choice – at least in high tech.

Some of us aren’t, but it really is a lot like cars. There will always be a significant chunk of the population who are gear heads. They should not be ignored; indeed, to do so is suicide. These folks know enough about cars to be discriminating. They carefully choose their cars and accessories based on their research, preferences and prejudices. They defend their choices fiercely.

The majority of the buying public cares about what the costs, what colour it is and how much it will cost to keep it fuelled. These “regular folks” however often ask the gear heads about their opinions before buying. They really don’t care what the car /is,/ they only care that it does the job and their gear head friends think it was the “right choice.”

Translated into the mobile arena this effect is the same. Nobody cares what the phone runs, how open it is, how fragmented the platform, how many apps there are or any of the rest of that pap. They care how the phone looks, what their rate plan is and whether their nerd friends think it was the “right choice.”

See a pattern?

Average people love to be told what to think. The question is simply “by whom?” In Apple’s case, they’ve managed to make quite a tidy sum by essentially marketing themselves /as/ the “nerdy friend” who can tell you what techno-widget is the “right choice.” It’s a huge thing; difficult to pull off but highly rewarding.

If you want to combat this, you will never do it by telling the milled masses what to think…Apple (and to a lesser extent, Google) have already established themselves as the “nerdy friend” that RIM, Microsoft or HP will simply /never be/. If you truly want to combat this you need to do it the old fashioned way: you need to earn the custom of the real life, meatspace “nerdy friends.”

It is only once the normals see their RL “nerdy friends” rejecting Apple or Google that they will start to question if they have been led astray. Marketing won’t save you, and neither will pretty speeches. For all the sound bites you could level at Apple, against their marketing department noone has a prayer.

Cease and desist with the lame attempts at damage control. Reach deep into your corporate well of humility and admit that you screwed up. Admit that it’s time to go back to basics and come out fighting. Give up trying to be “just like the other guys” and come out with something unique; an advantage all your own.

Unlike gear heads, nerds are fickle. If you want to win “Nerdy Friends” – and with them the bulk market share of normals – you have to make us fall in love with you all over again. So RIM, Microsoft…everyone else; I’m game. Let’s see what you got. Give me a reason to recommend you over the competition.

Something that’s more than just words.

Google Android chief smacks Steve Jobs with Linux speak

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Open, fragmented, covered in pie...

None of it matters if no one ever has any stock of any of these neat toys. For all this hand waving and hot-air the only thing that actually matters to Joe and Jane random is the answer the nerd behind the counter gives when they ask "what is the best phone you've got in stock for budget X?"

Neither Apple nor Google have managed to break the carriers and thus no matter who makes the greatest whatever it all boils down to “will it run on my network, and does the store I shop at have it?”

TL;DR: In meatspace, nobody cares what the phone runs, just so long as it runs and does so with a good rate plan.

Cameron: Carriers tomorrow, bombers today

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Antimatter bombs

Oh crap, I'm being bombarded by vast quantities of harmless neutrinos! Whatever shall I do?

Employers get Equality Act info from mega-thick codes

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"Protected characteristics."

The question I have is why are some characteristics protects and others are not? Surely it should be a fairly simple law: you may discriminate someone only their ability to perform a required job. No other form of discrimination whatsoever is acceptable.

This law makes it sound like it is only illegal to discriminate against traits complained about by the world's squeaky wheels. Surely some mistake...

Jobs dubs Google's 'open' Android speak 'disingenuous'

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Damn it...

Godwin in six.

Microsoft steers OEMs away from putting Phone 7 on Tablets

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Amen.

It's time to ditch Ballmer. Microsoft shareholders; it's time to start the revolt. Now, before it's too late...

OOo's put the willies up Microsoft

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@Ribbon Lovers

You have completely missed the point. Allow me the time to enlighten you. Microsoft is a corporation. This corporation sells us a product that we can choose to buy – or not – at our leisure. There are competing products available, many rapidly approaching “good enough.” Open Office is – for the large part – already there.

What does this mean? Put simply, if you are not required to use Microsoft Office as part of the terms of your employment (as I sadly am) then you are not required to use it at all. This has some interesting side effects. The first of which is that you are perfectly free to simply not buy it if the product doesn’t meet your requirements!

This is where the ribbon comes in. Not everything “new” is automatically “good.” Certainly in the real world “newer” does not automatically translate into “better.” (E.g. “the new Coke” or any GM car made between 1995 and 2009.) If Microsoft decides to change the interface on their product to something I personally find counterintuitive, then who are they – indeed, who are YOU – to suggest I should simply suck it up and use this product I don’t want anyways?

The point is that I don’t have to. I can use an alternative product and be far happier and more productive than I would be if I chose to stick with Microsoft Office. Don’t get me wrong – I love Office 2003. I still have it in use on my VM, and I would gladly have bought Office 2003 for the missus and myself when we replaced our PCs.

I don’t happen to like Office 2007/2010 because of that damned ribbon. Microsoft produced something that I – the customer – didn’t want to buy. There was zero incentive for me to spend money to purchase this software that didn’t meet my requirements when a perfectly usable and free alternative that behaves exactly as I want it to behave is available. Thus Microsoft lost out on the funds I had set aside for a software refresh. Not only did they lose my money for Office…but without the requirement to support office I simply had no reason to install Windows.

Without Windows on my desktop PCs, I really didn’t see the point in maintaining an SBS install at home. Thus Microsoft has lost – by my most current count – five copies of Windows 7, one copy of Small Business Server and four copies of Microsoft Office in my household alone. All of the previous versions of this software are in the midst of being replaced with a fully licensed Redhat stack.

The lesson here isn’t one of “suck it up, cry-babies.” The lesson here is that Microsoft isn’t a government. They aren’t our employers. They have no means of requiring us to consume a product beyond actually making a product we want to consume!

In this Microsoft appear to have failed. I am a Small to Medium Enterprise systems administrator. I used to write a sysadmin blog around here on El Reg. A little perusal of this blog would tell you that the environments I support are largely Microsoft. What is of interest is that of the twenty-four networks I maintain all but two of them view Microsoft as “legacy software.” It is maintained only because they have a handful of applications that require its existence. In every other instance, these folks – SME folks with little training – are abandoning Microsoft in droves for Linux or OSX. This is not at my insistence: the choices were made by the business owners. I was brought in because I know a fair amount about making Microsoft products coexist with Linux as is required during a transition away from Microsoft.

When I asked each of these business owners “why are you undertaking this expensive transition away from Microsoft software” the answers are fairly consistent. They all boil down to “Microsoft has stopped delivering us the kind of software we actually want. Instead they are delivering us software that locks us in and locks us down whilst delivering us nothing new of value. If we wanted that, we’d buy Apple.”

And so they did.

There’s a lesson here. The lesson is not so simplistic as “people fear change” or “the customer is always right.” The less is thus:

The individuals who actually pay you for your work will only submit to such an arrangement so long as one of two conditions are true:

1) You produce work of a quality that enhances the quality of life of the individual purchasing your work.

2) Your produce a vital good and there are no alternatives available.

For many people the world over – including the nontechnical types – Microsoft is no longer producing a product that enhances the quality of life for those who purchase it. What’s more, they no longer have a monopoly. With alternatives available, zero worthwhile leadership, warring fiefdoms inside the company and a complete lack of worthwhile products capable of meeting increasing competition I have to agree with all the SME owners who contract me to work on their networks:

Microsoft software is legacy software. Treat it as such.

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Amen

I'd buy upgraded copies of Office for my family and I if only they'd bring back the menu. As it is, I just got the missus migrated to OOo last night...

Don't stone the DNS heretics

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@Anton Ivanov

The dust-up between re: Rodney and the DNS geolocation/geocasting/anycast bit was, if I understand correctly, pre-UltraDNS. It was sort of what made him start UltraDNS. The timeframe he gives for the arguments taking place was 1998ish.

I really wish there was room in this article to include this level of detail...but sadly they do have word limits.

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Sorry for the mixup

I have asked my editor to post this as a footnote to the article.:

While Anycast provides a method for DNS servers to offer the same information to all askers, it is also an enabling technology for both Geocasting of DNS services and Geolocating the requestor. In this way, Anycasting is the technology used by services such as UltraDNS to provide different responses to DNS queries based upon geographic location.

Thanks to everyone for catching the missing information!

Germans develop sleepy-driver car 'warning' system

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@Paul_Murphy

You might be married to the wrong lady.

My mate has been known to quite enjoy the company of ladies herself and incessantly points out the lookers whilst we are driving. As a previous commenter made mention: we're married, sir...not dead!

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@Steve 6

Do you only get tired when it's dark out? Never worked a 30+ hour shift and then driven home at 2pm essentially on autopilot?

Huge jobs loss to follow public sector cuts

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@Fisher39

No. You can’t have that money back. I consider education – like health care – a basic human right. I can’t speak for your country, but in mine subsidized education and health care are available to individuals of all ages. You will note that I did not in any way imply that we should suspend health care for the aged.

Regardless of their crimes, they are still human beings and they do deserve at least the bare minimum rights that all human beings should have. A concept, by the way, that I don’t remotely expect most of my parents’ generation to comprehend. Let alone agree with. A generation of people raised only to believe in “me, me, me” just wouldn’t get it.

No, what I think is that things like Old Age Security and the Canadian Pension Plan should be eliminated. Instead there should be a fund that provides the absolute bare minimum food/shelter/clothing required for those who were too short-sighed to save for retirement on their own. Pack ‘em high and pack ‘em deep – but keep ‘em alive.

I want my parents’ generation to have long lives. I want them to see the environment fail. I want them to see that because of the social policies they supported the country they no rely on to keep a roof over their heads is bankrupt. I want that entire generation to fully and truly understand what they have wrought.

When these people retire, the high-paying jobs they occupy aren’t “freed up” for younger members of society to move into. The position is terminated upon retirement of the employee and shipped overseas. Thanks to shortsighted and greedy social policy for the past thirty or so years, our society is having to dramatically lower its wages. With it go our standard and quality of living. I want my parents’ generation to experience the effects of this as very deeply and directly as my generation will have to.

This while we are still using up non-renewable resources at non-sustainable rates. (Oil, underground water reserves etc.) Where will we get the plastics we need if all the Oil is gone? How will we feed our people if we must rely only on the amount of water provided by precipitation? We are a hundred years from viable renewable energy technology. We haven’t managed to develop sustainable farming technologies. Still, my parents’ generation demands the god-given right to drive one block in a bloody Canyonero to get a bag of groceries, half of which they will throw out anyways.

We’ve deforested entire nations without replanting those trees; from where then will come the trees future generations need? We’ve pulled out huge amounts of rare elements for use in electronics and other equipment without any care as to enforcing recycling of this gear. These rare elements then are largely left unrecovered; decreasing the total available amount of this material available to future generations to make better equipment. To say nothing of the trend that my parents’ generation pioneered of no longer making equipment of any variety that actually lasts longer than a three-year warrantee!

You can say that noone is entirely blameless and you would be right. The difference here is that my generation (I am not yet thirty) has been TRYING to do well by each other and those who come after us. There simply aren’t ENOUGH of us. There are less than a third of us compared to the number of individuals that make up our parents’ generation.

We don’t have the raw numbers to effect change in political processes. We don’t have the economic might to change the behavior of governments or corporations. When our parents’ generation finally starts dying off and we do rise to power there won’t be anything left with which to enact the change we have fought so long for. The jobs will be gone, the resources depleted and we won’t have any infrastructure – or really much of anything else – to show for it.

Our legacy will be piles of toxic rubbish (shipped to third world countries) crumbling infrastructure, a largely undereducated public and TRILLIONS of dollars in foreign debt. We will be taking power at a point when our nations will have no influence left in the world; it was all bartered away so that our parents could have a “fun time” and a few extra luxuries.

So I may not be perfect – and my generation not entirely blameless – but I still believe wholeheartedly that my generation is largely consists of individuals who are far less self-focused, greedy and shortsighted than our parents.

We have to be. After the mess our parents’ generation left for us, our society wouldn’t survive another like it.

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@David Pollard

Point taken. Still, my general feelings of anger and betrayal stand.

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I have a better idea.

*Profits* can go down. The rich folk who spent several decades borrowing from the future can now pay that money back.

Alternatively, all the old twats who ruined my future so they could have a slightly more luxurious present could be put out on the street. They can then come face to face with /EXACTLY/ what my generation thinks of them. I can’t wait until my generation is in power, because I promise you old age security will be the /first/ thing I vote to be cut.

Unlike supporting my grandfather’s generation – folks who truly contributed to society and tried to leave the world a better place then they found it – my parents’ generation decided they didn’t have enough and so had to reach into the future to steal resources from mine. I have nothing but contempt for the entire lot of them. Greedy bastards every one. I can only hope that my generation will not only be able to cope with this legacy, but repair some of the damage so as to leave the world a better place for our children, and their children yet to come…

Appro overclocks HF1 server for hedge funds

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Finally

Something that might play Crysis

Their smartphones are on your network

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@Goat Jam

I have recently done an absolutely unreal amount of research into this subject. I had about two hours worth of product demos/interviews with two companies, MobileIron and FancyFon. E-mail me and I will tell you anything you want to know! Either find one of my articles and use "e-mail the author," or use the widget in the about section of my website: http://www.trevorpott.com

Bruce Willis relaxes as asteroid skims Singapore

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@Daniel 1

Untrue. Nukes are grand for making a great big punch. It is all a question of directing the energy. A bunker buster is for all intents and purposes a focused nuke, and that would impart enough energy in many cases to "nudge" a threatening asteroid a few meters in a given direction. Remember that if you do it right, at the right part of the object’s orbit, you don’t need more than a nudge.

The Sun is great and all, but apart from periodic coronal mass ejections, getting hit by solar radiation is like being on the receiving end of a slightly more irritable ion drive. Solar winds just aren’t powerful enough to really affect something with the mass of an asteroid but a low surface/mass ratio. The only exception to this is if the asteroid in question is chalk full of volatiles. At that point, enough solar radiation will vaporise the volatiles. This can lead to the volatiles reaching escape velocity and thusly exerting thrust on the mass in question.

Apart from the sudden specific impulse method of lobbing a few largeish bunker-busters at your asteroid of choice, nukes also offer a grand method of creating an interstellar shotgun. Think of a properly outfitted spacecraft as being a sort of spacebourne claymore. You detonate a directed charge into a pusher plate. This plate translates the force of the explosion into a large array of kinetic impactors (“bullets” for lack of a better term.) The pusher also deals with blocking most of the ionising radiation from the blast, thus preventing vaporising your payload. The kinetic impactors rip into your asteroid of choice at relativistic velocities shredding the object and imparting different angular velocities to the remnant bits.

Whilst turning one dangerous falling object into many is generally a bad plan, if you do it far enough away from earth, by the time it arrives you have a fairly harmless and largely dispersed cloud of smallish debris that will harmlessly burn up in the atmosphere.

In short, nukes are plenty useful in space. You just have to understand their characteristics. Trying to use them in space the same way we would use them here on earth is pointless. On Earth, it isn’t the nuke that kills you. It’s the wall of unimaginably hot plasma that gets you. No atmosphere in space to create a plasma shockwave means totally different rules about how you use a nuke.