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Re: re Long version
"It's called Stupid User Glossover."
Only if you're a smug jerk. Don't blame the users! The blame lies with Misleading Marketing. "Unlimited Broadband" and "Private Browsing" have clear meanings that The Average Joe has every right to expect they mean when they see them used somewhere. The tech industry has misused and abused these words into a kind of Newspeak, where words mean their opposites. The whole purpose is to DECEIVE THE CONSUMER. Nobody is trying to stop them (it's a clear case of fraud) so it tends to succeed.
The consumers are deceived by aggressive and consistent misinformation campaigns. It doesn't make the users stupid. It shows the stupidity and dishonesty of the tech industry. Rather than rail at "stupid users" why don't we attack the dishonest companies who make lies and exaggerations their main marketing strategy? Say "Private" and by God it will be or you will be sued for fraud and deceptive advertising.
Was that seriously the first thing that you thought of?
Here, in these politically-charged forums? Where people approve or condemn based solely on whether something aligns with their ideological beliefs? Yep, it was the first thing he thought of!
Nasty old exploiter Tesla (owned by a Rich Guy so it's evil) can't be allowed credit for anything good. So they land and re-use first stages that NOBODY ever did before? They're still an awful company because they didn't clean up the second stages that nobody ever has. Evil Tesla! Bad! Bad!
Oh stop bashing the poor misunderstood things. They're quite capable of successful operational deployment! It just depends on how you define the mission. They would be simply breathtaking in the right roles, such as:
Target Drone - They can draw off fighter opposition and force both ground and air elements to waste time and ordnance trying to shoot them down. Given the amazing random-number direction changes built into the navigation system, they're well-equipped to evade missile attack.
KamiKaze - Highly effective ground attack strategy. If they're going to crash anyway, may as well take out a target. It might only need slight changes to the automatic landing profile, no new approach method is needed so a huge cost-saver there.
PsyOps - Relentless buzzing attacks can destroy the morale and fighting effectiveness of poorly-rested and enemy combatants. This little-used effect can be worth a regiment of troops! Program costs can also be offset by posting advertisements on the drones, which will be seen by a large audience of consumers during repeated passes over the target.
Area Denial - Given the high percentage of "pork" involved in the construction of the drones, anywhere one crashes will be "unclean" and off-limits to Arab opponents. This can be a knock-on effect for KamiKaze operations, or a specially-targeted strike on enemy headquarters, assembly areas, or recreation facilities.
Politicians never have the imagination for military matters...
Re: RE: Are there really so many people so stupid...
NONE of them are stupid. Business models of not directly charging for the service has been used for decades for many different products. None of them spied on you and sold your personal life to strangers for profit. Television (in the US) was a good example of such an ad-supported product. Note that many people were happy to pay for cable service to get rid of the ads.
It is NOT obvious that "free"" equals "spying and privacy violation". That's a fairly new trick to play on consumers and carefully not talked about in sales pitches. It's also NOT the only way to pay for free services. That's the line repeated by the snoopers to justify themselves but it's a total lie.
Re: Siri/Google != HAL
"nowhere close. Not even remotely."
SECOND THAT. HAL was a discrete entity, a digital individual of which there was ONE instance. HAL truly understood language. He understood the meaning and subtext of a conversation, well enough to psychologically evaluate the meatsack astronauts during their conversations. He had his own reactions and made decisions for himself.
Siri and its ilk are the Interface for a series of algorithms. NONE of the so-called digital assistants understand language. They have been trained to respond to This with That. They have a large data set and large collection of Possible Responses, but they don't think or understand.
HAL 9000 (in the context of the story) was a self-aware artificial intelligence. Siri et. al. are modern Mechanical Fortune Teller machines.
Re: For crying out loud...
SatNad insists that the 'always-on' Windows updates are a great thing, will help 'keep your machine under Microsoft’s control'.
There, fixed that. Face it folks, M$ does't like us annoying geeks refusing onerous "upgrades", blocking OS-native spyware and malware, turning off the tracking and spying... They HATE that. Welcome to the new "We Are In Control Not You Stupid Peon" Windows.
A different kind of mind-warp
We had the "2001" soundtrack on vinyl 12". On Side 1, Also Sprach Z and another lovely classical piece were bookends around some of the choral parts. Those were supposed to be eerie and unsettling, so they aren't exactly cheerful sing-alongs.
Well! One day I fell asleep listening to Side 1 with headphones pouring that creepy wailing straight into my brain. I woke with a vague memory of incredibly weird dreams, and a feeling that the universe was creeping up on me with something very sharp. Hell probably licenses those choral tracks for the reception area.
They didn't forget anything, and you seem to have totally missed the point. The trick is that they are doing it with things not normally used to communicate over a distance, and also being used in ways they were not designed for. It's a bit more involved than "you can communicate through the air with sound."
It's like using a microwave oven to transmit data to a baby monitor (which natively uses a different frequency of EM). Would that invent microwave communication? Not at all, but it certainly would do it in a new way with things never intended to perform that task. Get it now?
Re: IoT in Spaaaaaaaaaace ...
IOT in space? Sounds perfectly ghastly.
"Hey! It looks like you're fleeing the planet! Would you like directions to the nearest Starbucks?"
Re: Nice try BUT Fail, Fail, Fail and Fail again. :)
"Next you'll be complaining about their "Super Cali...." headlines."
I represent that comment. Recycled jokes are never as funny the second time, and by the tenth repeat it's getting tedious. Can't they think of some NEW jokes now and then? Seriously?
Re: @Gordon 10
Do Actresses Dream of Electric Dogs?
Check the mutts real close for a hidden Boston Dynamics logo...
Creative reduction of staffing levels
"We'll know how good AI is the day a tech exec puts a person in front of the car, and sets the car off to drive at them without a human operator to override the AI."
That sounds about like how a tech exec would downsize a workforce. Congrats Bob, you've been transferred to the AI Car Test Program! Don't worry, it's a short term assignment. Seriously, he never specified that the AI car should stop at that point, did he?
Re: Serves them right
"The framers of the Constitution should really have thought about adding some clause that gave states the right to exercise some sort of democratic choice about their local laws."
They did, with deliberate and precise intent: Amendment X:
"The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people."
It's quite clear with no doubt about what it says. The federal government has been ignoring and chipping away at it ever since, but states' rights over federal are built into the foundation of the country.
Here's a point to consider - plausible aliens
Space aliens in movies were kinda similar for a long time. Lots of humanoids (amazingly the same size and proportions as humans) or butt-ugly weird looking things meant to unsettle with their ALIENness.
Planet of the Apes did something totally different by using a future Earth full of basically Earth creatures. For the first time, English-speaking humanoid aliens made total sense. The humanoids are plausible because they're our genetic cousins, they speak English because that was a dominant language from their past. For all its gee-wow, even Star Wars had no explanation for why the inhabitants of a far-away galaxy were basically human. In Planet of the Apes it all made sense for once.
Re: You don't need magic encryption, OR a drill
No worries, simply pick the lock. I've done that at my office many times. Key lost, key broken, key locked in the cabinet (yes...). My best time to open a standard filing cabinet using a bent nail and paperclip is ten seconds. When I bought myself a pick set, that dropped to five seconds. Some are more difficult than others, such as the fire cabinets here with anti-picking features. Those take much longer, but I get 'em. Recently I had to pick the security lock on the electrical room (generator failed during power outage) because a manager had misplaced the key. Fifteen minutes to noodle that one, and avoided calling out a locksmith at 3:30 AM.
It's one of the best skills you can learn, and kinda fun as well.
Bah, you have to imagine the mindset of peacetime defense interests. The Air Forces want new, shiny gee-whiz piloted aircraft. Solid, capable old birds like the F-18 and A-10 are sooo yesterday now, can we have a new airplane PLEEEASE? Complexity also means lots of contractors get a serving of Defense Dollars, including many who would get nothing by updating existing aircraft. Fixing design mistakes opens the money valve even farther.
But OMG it's costing more than we thought! Well, gotta find some cash to keep throwing down that hole... I know! let's kill off the old planes and bet the farm on the Shiny New Hangar Queen! And by NO means will they ever admit to having made a mistake, much less reverse it.
Re: The best option
Rubber bands. Really, really BIG rubber bands. They'll also work a charm to help slow aircraft on landing, so no pesky outdated caveman-tech catapults or arresting wires needed.
Re: Nice PR
Show us on the doll where the bully's taunts hurt you.
Show us on the doll where being stalked by a stranger hurt you.
Show us on the doll where your mentally abusive spouse hurt you.
You, sir, are an ass to make such a statement. Do you tell rape victims to relax and enjoy it too?
Company also hidden from job applicants!
Many moons ago I was broke and desperate in Washington DC during a recession that had engineers and lawyers scrabbling for newspaper delivery jobs. One of the job ads I replied to: armored car driver (Wells Fargo).
The ad had an address and that's all. The huge, windowless building was unmarked, with only one door to the parking lot. Door was unmarked, with a button and speaker grille. Bzzzt. The person who answered rudely demanded what my business was. On being told I was there for the job ad, lots of rude and irrelevant questions. Finally, reluctantly, they send someone to let me in. The interviewer was a rude, unfriendly bastard as well. They offered me the job a month later, but thankfully I had found a good job at a laboratory. Crappy job too.
Look on the bright side, Pebble fans. At least your gizmo will work long enough for you to get beach body ready
"That's great for the 60s, but it's now 2018 and the time and date is available everywhere"
Everywhere YOU go, City Boy. Not me! I go places that are far from cell towers or chargers. Places that are soaking wet, or doing activities that would smash a mobile phone. My titanium field watch handles it all with aplomb and style, nearly 20 years and counting. Needs a three-dollar battery once every three years. It will still work when you are on your fifth smartphone after your current one.
Note to tech users: Your favorite widget is not the Only Way, may not be the best choice for everyone, and probably has use cases that you haven't considered. Don't be so confident declaring old tech obsolete and unneeded.
ANY water can kill you if the cards fall wrong
I paddle a sea kayak, but mostly on inland flatwater and non-foaming rivers. I don't do whitewater or play in the surf. And yet, I have helped rescue about ten humans and one dog. Only one or two were for-sure lifesavers, but they were all facing hypothermia, possible drowning and/or being swept out to sea. Not one them got in trouble from being an idiot.
Well... okay, the DOG was kind of an idiot, romping out on a sandbar as the tide came in. He was cut off 100 meters from shore and the tide running out, too old to swim strongly. Plenty of stupid folks on the water, but the ones I've helped got caught by the unexpected. Except the dog.
Re: everyone replaces their PCs
"I think we'll see a surge in landfilled PCs, and no replacements bought."
Jeebus, will everyone please stop smugly predicting the utter and final death of the desktop PC? And the fax machine? And the other Old Skull Tech that persist in having a useful purpose in the world?
For us business types trying to get some work done, a good desktop and a couple of big monitors are pretty much required. Keyboards are faster than swiping or talking at a machine, mice and sticks are more accurate for selecting and placing items. I have four big tablets worth of screen real-estate for multiple programs and documents. Tablets and phones are not serious work machines.
So why slowing PC sales? I blame Windows 10. Why buy a marginally faster PC if you have to trade Win 7 for "Windows As A Spyware Service"? If the Old Box works well enough, no need to replace it.
WOT? CCTV not sufficient???
I would expect the millions of cameras monitoring your police state to be sufficient to watch the exits of an embassy without requiring expensive meatsacks to do the job. Britain is obviously not reluctant to put up cameras on every pub and corner. Why didn't they simply add twenty more on the embassy?
I can answer my own question. The Pale One has defied the Stasi of the UK and US, they will stop at NOTHING to make him pay for it, and want everyone to know it. Cops are the same everywhere, they will never admit error, and they will never give up. The Sun will expand to a red giant and they will still be trying to extradite his decomposed remains to face trial.
Give 'em credit, the Krauts thought BIG
Have you seen the Flak Towers (Flakturm) that were built in Berlin, Hamburg, and Vienna? Ranging from 150-250 feet tall, they were built so tough that many still loom over their host cities, too strong to destroy. Some of those were built in as little as six months.
As mentioned, slave labor and such helped get that done. But consider another massive engineering feat of the same period, done without slave labor in record time: The Pentagon. One of the world's largest office buildings was competed in 16 months by free men.
Re: Public transport is already self-driving
"Good public transport would probably be more efficient and cheaper." I assume from your doubt that you've never done it. I have, in Atlanta and Washington, D.C. In both cases, it was twice as fast and a third of the cost to drive myself. Public transport is for those with no car, no cargo, and no errands to run.
In certain places public transit is the bomb! The Paris Metro is awesome, cheap and gets you there quick. But it's not a guarantee, and not always a practical replacement for a car.
Speaking in averages...
You don't care, someone might. Let's work it out! An American football field is 300 feet long. Truck and trailer size can vary, but the AVERAGE size of a truck-trailer combo in the US is 70 feet. Three of these end to end will total 210 feet, leaving 90 feet extra of the 300.
However, they won't drive nuts-to-butts in the Real World. Divide that 90 feet of leftover by two gaps and you get a mere 45 feet of following space between trucks. That's not far enough for tractor-trailers, even empty.
So three tractor-trailers traveling in a line will take up MORE than 300 yards/meters of road. In this case, it's not a journalistic exaggeration.
Re: Lighten up Francis....
Ohhh, we're digging it, and I'm happy for the kid. But ya gotta admit, it's too good an opportunity for humor to pass up!
I hope someone makes the kid a remote-control version to take home!
Re: So that's what it is!
"keeping compatibility with a large user base on old versions of Windows restricts its ability to innovate."
No, it restricts MS's ability to drag its customers away from a mature product that meets their needs, and force a spying platform with a horrible UI on them instead. Fixed that for ya.
Re: Kiss goodbye to that roadster
Nah, it's coming back down, it'll be famous. Elon will sneak aboard the rocket and ride it up. Then he will suit up, climb in the car and fly it back through re-entry to the wailing tones of "Radar Rider". Hopefully he pops the drag chute before landing, unlike the '57 Corvette in Heavy Metal.
Oh yeah, Elon's been wanting to replicate that scene for a loooong time.
Re: I did wonder about cause and effect
I wonder if the color Red might have something to do with it? I'm thinking of a great incident where some photographers were trying for pictures of golden eagles in a snowy area. They were cutting pieces of meat to toss out and bring them in for close pictures. It happened that the knife had a bright red handle, and one of the eagles swooped in and grabbed it. They got some awesome pictures of a friggin' eagle flying around holding a knife! Talk about Death From Above!
Anyway, they seem to be drawn to reddish, meat and blood colored things. Might relate, might not...
Re: Do they do it accidentally or deliberately?
"Why do we have such difficulty in giving other living things credibility for an iota of intelligence?"
Good question! There are a few influences at work here. The greatest blame belongs to Religion, which usually states that we are divine creations in the image of the gods, and animals are dumb vermin-ridden beasts. It's very important for religions to claim humans are separate and special, so there's a default setting of "animals are dumb automatons, we're smart thinking beings not like them".
I lay a fair bit of blame on psychology, ethology and such for perpetuating this attitude. They reflexively dismiss as "anthropomorphizing" any suggestion that an animal might be doing anything we do, or worse, for the same reasons. When it was assumed that humans are a Special Creation that kinda made sense, but not since we know that we're all related.
The newness of Science plays a part as well. When we started looking for natural explanations for the universe (and us), there was a tendency to treat any discovery as the Complete Answer. We're finding out now that most things are far more complex than that first answer we found. That's OK, it's the scientific method at work, moving ever closer to the final truth.
I don't make any distinction between genus Homo and our fellow critters. We're all related from the same origins, and we for sure can share behaviors and motivations. Throw out the preconceptions and you'll see all kinds of animals doing amazing things that nobody much notices or gives them credit for.
I call it Mechanic Effect
Long before digital widgets invaded our lives, I did a fair bit of freelance car repair. Half my repair supplicants would bring me to their car, look confused and say "It's not doing it now." Thus I labeled it Mechanic Effect, but it inevitably happens with any new tech as well.
I'm not mystically inclined, I have no valid reason to ensoul the inanimate. Cars can't possibly have an awareness and personality, nor aircraft, washing machines, or computers. But somehow... they KNOW. They know a Fixer has arrived, a holder of arcane knowledge and exotic tools, a dealer in hacks and workarounds when the Accepted Method doesn't work. Someone willing to use them without restraint or remorse. The smart ones back down and behave, seeing the door to hell cracked open is warning enough. The others? The ones too dumb to spot a Fixer or too stubborn to straighten up?
(cracks knuckles menacingly) Okay then... let's have a look!
Apples and watermelons, no comparison. The submarine is several hundred tons of steel, mostly intact on the seafloor. At 55 meters long, it's a relatively large target.
MH370 was lightly-built of mostly aluminum. It most likely shattered into thousands of pieces on impact with the water. The biggest chunk you may find might be an engine, which is vastly smaller than that sub wreck. It's a needle in a hayfield, and with the best of will and technology we may never find MH370's wreck.
Re: What real use are they?
Deterrence: not total, but pretty strong. Most crooks would prefer to break into a house or car that will not scream and give them away. If your place is alarmed (hah) then your neighbors without one look much more attractive.
Damage-control: If your alarm is yelling for help and may have called the cops, the intruder will make it quick and get out. Otherwise a burglar has lots of time and privacy to ransack the place.
Unfortunately I can vouch for this. I lived in a terrible part of Atlanta for nine years and we were burgled about five times. Each time they grabbed the TV and computer but totally missed the good stashes of jewelry and other slightly-hidden Good Stuff. Given time to root around, they would have found all that.
So not perfect, not total deterrence, but they do have value.
Re: "far more pleasant to have a voice than a beep"
That Beep is shorthand for a longer statement, one we are familiar with and does NOT need to be read out longhand every flipping time. It's a time saver and convenience.
Imagine the horror if the simple one or two beep security arming for vehicles was replaced with voice responses. And for what gain?
Re: The response to this is well known
"If they were to bring in this rule then people will simply use alternate swear words"
Or alternate languages entirely! I already do that as a way to threaten and disparage computers in front of my users. I found too many who knew what the common French or German cusses meant. So now I unleash the vilest rants imaginable in Hungarian and Russian and nobody is the wiser. Except for two of my users who asked to learn a few choice phrases for personal uses, gotta love 'em.
Coffee Darts FTW!
I had a phone job in a call center separated by a 6-foot wall from another department. They had lots of rubber bands, and eventually they were sailing back and forth over the wall as we playfully "shelled" each other. Well, rubber bands lack range and accuracy, hardly the weapon of an American rifleman.
So I invented coffee darts. Cut two slits in one end of a plastic coffee stirring straw, slightly offset. Punch a staple longways near the other end and bend up the outer "arm" a wee bit. Slip small pieces of index card in the slits for fins. String a rubber band between two fingers, hook the staple on for a launching hook and let fly. They're accurate to quite long range, and simply lack the mass to hurt when they get there. Your target often doesn't notice being shot if they didn't see it. Of course, never aim for the head or face, but they're a blast. Also good for startling cats, lol.
Re: Colella is now an Uber driver...
That sentence seems rather harsh.
Re: Depression —> Paranoia
Or callously exploited?
Re: How long before ...
Is anyone addressing the real danger here? This is Facebook, who never ever delete ANYTHING, no matter if they tell you they did. They will keep every nude photo uploaded forever. It's run by a sociopathic asshole who cares nothing for anyone else's rights or lives. I wouldn't put it past YuckyZuck to use them as a personal amateur porn stash. ICK!!!
I'm sure they'll justify permanent retention to themselves, for psych research or to train image recognition or some such BS.
I ask my users to give me any unwanted USB sticks they collect at conferences. They are the "See ya, thanks for all the fish" loaners I'll never see again.
Please sir, can I have some more flash drives?
It's good, but it would improve with "Giza GAZERS' muon..." Unless the research team had some really old folks in it "geezers" is the wrong choice.