Bet your life...
... that if this were some kind of Android malware strain and Google had been handed control of the servers, these comments would have a very different tone...
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"Google Glass is like an a[l]ways-on spy for Google"
... and even if it isn't always on and calling home (which is as likely or unlikely as your personal tinfoil-hattedness), it runs Android. So it'll only be a matter of time before someone gets some bit of malware out there to turn it into their own always-on spy device - as we all know, the average user is not exactly brilliant at reading through that list of required permissions before installing.
People are right to be worried about this - regardless of what they may think of Google as a corporate entity.
First thermostats and lights and the "internet of things", all sending anonymous data back to Google if you opt in... and people accept it.
Next obvious step - remove the opt in... and people will accept it, because it's only a small change.
A series of these small steps later, and we all have telescreens in our homes, watching us and reporting our every move back to Google and the NSA watching over their shoulder, with no anonymity and no opt-out... and even though people may start not wanting it, it'll be too late.
... and we'll always have been at war with Eastasia...
There's plenty of links out there - just search for Google NSA. How genuine any/all of them are - well, that's up for debate. But given the number of links and variety of sources, I for one am reasonably satisfied there's cause for concern.
... of course, there are those out there in whose eyes Google can do no wrong (for whatever reason).
But yes, Mr. O.P. - let's see exactly where you're getting your information from and whether the source is credible enough to be considered "proof".
200,000 apps on Amazon, 1,300,000 on Play.
A while back, I submitted the Android port of my games to both Amazon and Play. The former took a few days to go through QA, the latter just "went public".
Popularity? Or quality over quantity? How much is due to the Amazon market being seen as having fewer opportunities, and how many of those extra million plus on Play are half-hacked fart apps and flappy clones that don't work properly?
Q2. What search engine do you use?
Google [ ]
Something Inferior [ ]
Something that does not try and extort money from the little guys [ ]
FTFY
Careful...
... or you will be accused of complaining to your friends by one of the Google faithful - under an anonymous coward post, natch...
... you still have people on here - people who I can only assume are reasonably tech savvy - running round praising Google to the hilt and taking a swipe at Microsoft at every possible opportunity, just due to a massive two-decade-old chip on their shoulder...
If the tech community of all people can't put the past behind them and see what the future holds, what hope does the great unwashed have?
"This especially applies to apps that I have actually paid for in the first place."
I would argue that there's grounds for an additional cost - in certain cases. If the item in question is an expansion pack, I think it's reasonable to attach a price-tag, as this provides further gameplay which will have required additional time and effort on the part of the developers to build. If a player likes the game and wants to play further than the basic version offers, it's their choice to download the pack.
Similarly, there's justification that purely cosmetic items which do not have any impact on the gameplay can have a price tag - if you really want to pay 50p for a fez, that's your call.
In both these cases, the actual purchase mechanic must absolutely be handled responsibly - there should be no way that mummy's credit card is suddenly maxed out because little Jimmy has bought a bundle of costumes for the character on this favourite iPad game.
What is absolutely wrong is the "pay-to-win" model - paying to get something that changes the way the game progresses, be it negating a delay required before a next move can be made, or buying a special item to make things easier.
Of course, in an ideal world, there would only ever be one "in-app purchase" - the payment required to switch from a free trial to a full paid version of a game.
"Hard to take when your astroturfing gets caught out, isn't it?"
Same question back at you about spreading FUD, now Google is trying to wriggle out of obeying the law.
Seriously, the whole browser war thing was 20 years ago. Let it go man, you're just going to give yourself a heart attack.
"You also seem to think you're some sort of indie game dev super star"
Superstar? No - just an old-fashioned developer who makes retro-style games for fun and dreams of "the good old days". Sure, I'll kick off against piracy and the spoiled anonymous whiners who seem to think that they're entitled to everything for nothing - but I have no false illusions about my little tribute to the 80s video arcade, hence why they're free to play.
So I'm sorry if I spoiled your party by simply pointing out that I can build for Windows Phone 8 - or maybe it's the fact that I can then deploy to iPhone and Android within hours from the same codebase that hurts your feelings - or the fact that I can do this using something Microsoft have created. I'm just happy to be able make games in the style I used to enjoy in my youth.
"Why doesn't Android have the tooling the allow me to block such privacy invasions?"
When you consider how big a player Google is in Android's development (to the extent of trying to create a walled garden around it), I'd have thought the answer was obvious...
I didn't ask to be tracked and profiled, or have adverts sold to me. I didn't ask for people who know a few things about me to be able to search the web and come up with details on who I am and what I do (case in point - the A.C. troll in this thread who felt he had to take a pop at me because I use C# cross-platform). I didn't want details of things I have looked at and/or bought online made available to parties outside those website I had visited or purchased from.
And I certainly don't want my every action and communication scrutinised by a private enterprise whose only motivation is profit and tries to dodge their responsibilities, while hiding behind a mask of altruism.
Just as happened with Microsoft before them, Google have fallen prey to their own arrogance and hubris, save that Google's capacity for anti-competitive practice is far greater than Microsoft's ever was. They know this - hence their squirming to try and wriggle out of this ruling. Their big fear is that the scales will eventually fall from the eyes of even the most ardent of their fans, and everyone will realise that "Do no evil" is the greatest lie of our time.
@Bullseyed - couldn't agree more. Same with my laptop - one of the questions on the employee information sheet was "Do you have the equipment at home suitable to allow you to work from home, should the need arise?" - No I do not! My laptop is my laptop!
"I wonder what the "catch" will be? Google isn't altruistic at all. They must see money in this."
Spy satellites have been up there for years, and can spot objects of only a few centimeters in size. Couple this to any of Google's existing means to spy on us, and you can "put a face to a name", so to speak. Check your Gmail, and Google can use the physical location of your internet connect to put you in a given building - then watch who goes in and comes out. Change locations a few times, and it's pretty easy to work out who you are from satellite imagery. With a phone running Google Android, it's even easier, thanks to GPS. And I shudder to imagine what would happen if spy satellite technology were combined with Google glass, should it catch on...
Because ultimately, once you have figured out what someone looks like, if you have the means to see them everywhere, you can follow them wherever they go. It won't matter if you don't take your phone or log into Gmail - once the Google spysats know what you look like, that's it - your every move belongs to Google, adding further to its creepy profiling and advertising spamming... that trip out with a few mates to a "gentleman's club", with your phone conveniently "accidentally" left at home? Forget it - Google will know you've been there, and so will your wife when she sees any adverts on your computer screen...
With how it looks with that keyboard in the photo, it's something I might consider looking at as a possible development system. Of course, it would need some kind of mouse - I doubt that drawing art assets by "finger-painting" on the touchscreen would work very well...
... and removal of all the crapware, and a version of Android free from Google's pollution, natch.
"Voting with their wallets: If Google sells your privacy to a government or to the highest bidder, don't use Google services"
Fine. Until you stop and think about the near stranglehold that Google has over the average, non-technical public. Android powers somewhere between 70 and 80% of all smartphones. Google search has become so integral into the way modern life works, it actually has become synonymous with web search: "just Google [whatever]". Google analytics are present in the vast majority of high-traffic sites.
Getting the general public to vote with their wallets will take one of two things - a credible alternative of similar capability, or a massive failure on the part of Google. The first of these is unlikely - how does one gain enough capability to be a threat to Google when Google can control a large chunk of what people see on the web? So that leaves Google to have a Microsoft moment, and fall victim to their own hubris.
"Putting pressure on the government -with votes and if that fails, with protests and demonstrations- to change the laws in such a way that these acts -by Google or whoever- are made illegal."
For all the good that will do. Ultimately, money talks - and Google have a shedload of money. A government wants Google to pay the tax they owe? Google will just wriggle out of it, or make a counter threat - how easily could they lower the priority of search results and/or adverts for companies in the country making the demand?
Sure, the American government has the power to order Google to hand over data. But for how much longer? Already Google are trying it on with the European courts, and Indian government - how long until they're big enough to turn on the U.S. - home of consumerism which, via their control of search results and advertising revenue, Google have massive power over? How many laws have Google had passed or thrown out through lobbying?
At the end of the day, unless something changes very soon, we will all be at the mercy of an unelected, profit-motivated private enterprise that sees people as it's property to do with as it chooses, and with more than enough money and influence to ensure that world governments sing to their song.
@Captain Hogwwash:
"The point I was making was that a corporation doing it is much less dangerous to an individual's personal liberty than a government doing it."
... and I think you missed mine. From the lowest level interns to the CEO and the board, Google is entirely an unelected body. In my book, this is far more dangerous than any government could be. Sure, a government can lock you up and throw away the key - but with the amount of information Google has gathered, combined with the sway they have over the web and smartphone arenas, they could hold to ransom, or even ruin, pretty much anyone - from individuals all the way up to the government of small countries.
@Captain Hogwash
Heard of Google holding general elections in which everyone can vote for who is in charge and potentially anyone can stand as a candidate? That's what I thought.
... and I told you so really doesn't quite cut it here...
It's not the government you need to worry about at all.
Control of the information about us, and more importantly, the information we are given is increasingly in the hands of big corporations - Google being the chief culprit - not the Government.
Of course, the government may have it's means of disseminating information - the press, the BBC and so forth. But against the power of the internet, this is just one voice against a roaring mass.
And the corporations control the internet - to the point where they can all but stick their finger up at international law.
The government is all but powerless. At pretty much any point, the corporations could switch off the tap supplying them with our information, and they know it.
"politicians have already started diversionary tactics to make the people believe Google (or whoever) is the enemy."
Google are doing a pretty good job of it for themselves - disregarding all the normal creepy spying stuff, not paying their taxes goes a long way to convince the average man who the bad guys are...
Many a true word is said in jest...
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/03/09/bofh_protecting_bodily_waste/
... that if it were a new game today it wouldn't work on the mobile market.
My normal trick was to protest vigorously that I am a programmer, that I know nothing about hardware and that I'll probably end up doing more harm than good.
If the person in question then refused to give up after what I felt was a reasonable time span, I'd poke at their machine until it ended up in a worse state than when I started. Two or three completely bricked machines, a couple of beers in apology payments and the odd friendship ruined forever (no real loss - they'd bugged me about fixing their computer) is a small price to pay for relative peace and quiet.
... Google were slurping for unprotected wifi networks with their streetview cars? So that they knew what networks their glasses would be able to hook up to on the quiet in order to phone home with yet more data for the great Google spying network?
"If it's the 'spying' angle that concerns you, may I point out that many people might be surprised how many cheap covert cameras can be bought online these days."
Ah, but how many of said cheap covert cameras <a href="http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/03/24/google_glass_spyware/>can report everything they see back to Google HQ</a>?
Your poetry pales into insignificance compared to the masterful verse of Ye Gads, found here (about six comments down).