1408 posts • joined 29 Oct 2009
Re: I had to say it
About as long as a reg commentard who is still stuck in the 90s has to drag their anti-Microsoft bias into a thread that otherwise has nothing to do with Microsoft?
Re: New Apple invention :)
"Also could it be set to work in reverse so users have to ability to warm a bagel on a metal phone cover?"
Well, that would just be in keeping with Apple tradition - I recall the Macs we had at my university kicked out so much heat that we used to joke about having slots in the front for 3.5inch disks, 5.25inch disks, and slices of break in order to make toast...
Re: Micro Soft's Flying Circusss
"Finally, on JUNE 12th, Microsoft fixed the vulnerability in Edge, which could have been abused to force the browser to transmit private data."
... perhaps because they wanted to test the fix before releasing?
I agree, the lack of communication is reprehensible. But at the end of the day - and yes, given that this is Microsoft, I know I am being horribly optimistic here - I would much rather time be given to testing, as opposed to a fix rushed out in a knee-jerk reaction to the self-appointed software police.
Oh yes, Google's "proprietary Android" that doesn't require the Linux kernel.
... because we all love proprietary software don't we?
At least this will stop the pretence that they have not "triple-E"-ed Android in all but name.
Atari accuses El Reg of professional trolling and making stuff up. Welp, here's the interview tape for you to decide...
Oh how the might have fallen...
Back in the early 90s, the Atari STE was a giant among machines - probably the best all-round home computer platform across all arenas on the market at the time, (despite what owners of the Commodore Amiga Games Machine may say*).
Sad that the once-great name has been dragged down this far.
*Forget professional trolling, Atari and Amiga owners have been trolling each other since before "trolling" was a thing...
“System Insights” - AKA "Mystic Clippy":
"It looks like you you will be requiring more capacity when the stars align..."
@rmason - never had a problem myself, but as I'm a) paranoid, b) stingy and - apparently - c) cursed*, I prefer to wait it out and see how others get on first...
* Any time I Try doing anything related to updating/changing/re-installing something at system level, I end up with a dead PC. A few years back, I rendered a laptop capable of doorstop duty while trying to install Linux. I've also bricked my mother-in-law's laptop trying to fix a Windows driver error. And this is just the tip of the iceburg - so these days, I'll stick to just being a programmer and end-user.
On the plus side, none of my friends and relatives bug me to fix their machines any more "because I work with computers"...
Will still be using that "schedule restart" option to delay installation for a few weeks until I know it's not going to explode my machine...
"... the PFY took every single nut, bolt and screw out of everything."
Am I the only one here who read this and thought of that bit in Short Circuit where the guy's car gets taken apart in about ten seconds flat?
If this can gain traction...
... then it truly would be a victory for open source.
Come on all you Android fans who keep shouting about how bad Apple and Microsoft are with their walled gardens - time to put your money where your mouths are. If it were completely Google free then I'd buy it - hell, I might even go back into mobile development for it!
Docs can get this info anyway, so...
Docs are also bound by patient confidentiality laws and don't pull every legal loophole known to man in order to sell your data.
Re: RT reborn?
For the same reasons someone might want to install a browser that only allows extensions to be installed from its own store?
Re: Lack of commitment
"all COBOL and FORTRAN programmers are *DEAD* ? (is THAT what you meant?)"
Please tell me that I'm not the only one that read this and - because of the way SOMEONE uses CAPS to EMPHASISE normally - read "COBOL" and "FORTRAN" as "cobol" and "fortran"...
"to a significant extent the internet is already regulated"...
Yeah, Google's algorithms determine what hits those top spots on their search page...
"People seem to be getting terribly upset at the shocking discovery that Google, Facebook and in fact everyone else online makes money from advertising..."
As has been the theme so far, it's having their every move tracked that people are getting terribly upset about - just look at the comments for anything on here that mentions Microsoft for example. And the worst thing is that these are often the same people who signed up for all the "free stuff"...
And, as has been mentioned, there are then the popup/video/full page background etc ads....
Until ads are blocked from delivering anything more than static text/images positioned below the page content and tracking pixels etc are a thing of the past, my blockers stay on.
Re: Incidentally, what browser/search engine/phone/social media do you use?
That's fine because Facebook does the same?
Did I ever say it was fine? No. I just said that others were already doing it (quite successfully, too), and Microsoft - in typical Microsoft style - went "Oooh look, we need to get into that action".
Please come up with an adult argument that makes data slurping OK.
I'll let you know as soon as I have one. In the meantime, please try and read what I have written and not jump to conclusions or apply biases that are not there.
And as for my question regarding which browser, mobile etc - it's not about who started slurping data first, or whether it is right or wrong, it's about pointing out that this is not just a Microsoft thing. Personally, I would like to see tighter regulation and full user control of what data any of these companies can harvest, but I don't have the lobbying capital to go head-to-head against these corporate giants...
Re: Oh noes!
No, the joke is on the aforementioned people who fell for the lure of free stuff and handed over their data, thus ultimately leading Microsoft to the idea that here is a new viable business model - albeit several years after everyone else.
Incidentally, what browser/search engine/phone/social media do you use?
Microsoft are making monitors! It probably slurps everything I do evaaaar, not that this my giving all my details away for "free stuff" to other companies showed Microsoft that this slurping is a viable business model! I must immediately migrate everything I have made projector displays! Never mind the Github thing, this is eeeeeevil!!!!
... just to get it in before someone whose head is still stuck in the 90s does. Possibly with the odd WORD in CAPITALS because they think it somehow makes their argument look better...
"Ceres, which was originally classified as a planet after its discovery in 1801 but then relegated 40 years later..."
"That's no planet..."
Re: They can't blame any of this on the antitrust
Chrome's dominance has nothing to do with Microsoft's antitrust battles and everything to do with
Microsoft and Mozilla losing the plot Google splashing great big "Install Chrome and browse faster!" link all over their search pages.
Given that at the time nobody was any where near Google's quality of results, of course everyone was going to see it.
... but until the memory hogging and privacy issues are fixed, I'm sticking to Firefox.
Well, all that money for lobbying and paying people to pick holes in competitor's products has to come from somewhere...
Feels vaguely familiar...
Maybe I'm reading too much into this, but I can't help but wonder what would have happened if Google had created their own crypto coin at some point in the last year or so...
Just like Microsoft missed the massive disruption that the internet caused in IT, so it feels like Google might have missed a similar disrupt - and are now doing what they can to limit the damage it might do to them...
It's been a while...
... since the BOFH has made me laugh out loud. Snigger, yes. Chuckle to myself. yes...
... but the mental image of the boss flying out of the room only to be intercepted by a high-velocity wheely chair just hit the right spot. Nice one.
Re: Two years?
"Google - Master of fracturing and splitting their own userbase."
This is actually a legit business tactic - I saw it while in a previous role. The idea is that the big company that owns the various potentially competing companies is using them to grab more dosh.
For example - say Alphabet brought out "Alphabet Search" to rival Google (as suggested elsewhere in this thread). Both will have slots where you can buy an advert.
In order to get maximum coverage, an advertising space buyer will buy slots on both Google and Alphabet Search... both of which are emptying into Alphabet's coffers.
Stop us if you've heard this one: Ex-Googler sues web giant claiming terrible treatment. This time, sex harassment
"Google need to get a grip"
The only things Google cares about getting a grip on is as much of our data as possible, and what we are presented with when using the web.
"A concerted effort is needed to restart, or even turbocharge, Britain's once-great achievements in academic enterprise"
Something like raising the entry requirements and bringing back the grants would probably go a good way towards this - right now, universities are only good for qualifications that are pretty useless in the employment sense and getting a mountain of debt.
"So GO! GOOGLE! and *STRESS* Micro-shaft into fixing their browser!"
Yeah, publish the details so that the black-hatters can take advantage of the problem! *STRESS* them and force them to fix it as fast as possible - maybe they won't have time to test the patch properly, so it causes more problems than it fixes, thus giving the "because it's Microsoft" brigade more to write about in with lots of capital letters!
Really responsible behaviour and use of power there...
Re: Intel issues
"I find it irresponsible of Google to still release information before the patch is released."
But then, as the Intel issue proved, this is nothing to do with altruism and making the web a safer place - although it's dressed up as such.
As has been pointed out, this is about attacking a competitor and spreading FUD - exactly the same tactics Microsoft themselves were renowned for some 25 or so years ago. The fact that Google's own browser, which has its own share of issues, reached its market leading position largely because of it's being plastered all over their search pages only strengthens the case for anti-competitive behaviour.
An interesting parallel...
"... an iOS and Android duopoly... "
This raises an interesting situation: Back in the late 90s-early 00s, the vast majority of desktop hardware, regardless of brand, ran Windows - except for Apple, whose computers ran their own OS. And then Microsoft tried to tie their browser to their OS and got the crap sued out of them for anti-competitive behaviour.
Fast-forward 20 or so years: the vast majority of smartphone hardware, regardless of brand, runs Android - except for Apply, whose iPhones run their own OS. And these Android devices ship with Chrome installed, and are largely tied to Play and the other Google services...
Yeah, I suppose the only good thing to come out of this is that we won't get the usual suspects posting the same old tired "both of them" comments any more...
Re: 'Without notifications Windows Phone's "Find your phone" feature won't work'
"Alas, I never did see one in the wild, so nothing changes for me there."
So basically, what you're saying is that all your judgements and comments were based on third-party information?
The advertising industry is probably one of the few entities with enough cash and connections to take Google on in a legal battle - Google probably realise that with their effective monopoly on search and how they have used this to push Chrome to the #1 browser position, an anti-trust action would have a similar effect on them as it did on Microsoft all those years ago.
Pity. I'd just gotten the popcorn all warmed up.
"Google's goal... is not to filter any ads at all but to improve the experience for all web users."
Le sigh... as usual, hiding behind the wall of altruism. This is again about (ab)using a dominant market position (itself gained largely by similar activity in another market that Google has a practical monopoly in) to attack potential competitors and acclimatise the end users towards increasing acceptance of Google's control over what web content is easily accessible (ie: that conforming to Google's criteria), and what will be buried away or potentially censored.
"Google has grasped the depth and breadth of the resentment created by the ad industry's unrepentant bad behavior." - however, they're still doing their level best to condition the end user against their control and data-slurping.
Sod office, try Unity
Until something has the chops to run game dev tools, it's no substitute for a workhorse PC or laptop
"the politicians accused the companies of hypocrisy, failures in their duty of trust to users, and of caring more about
ad revenue than...
A thief expects everyone to steal.
And full marks to AC for the B5 reference... :D
The long game...
Let's back away from the good vs bad aspect for a few moments and have a look at the bigger picture.
By this action, a significant number of organisations are left in a position where they have to either comply or risk losing business and/or audience. And the entity forcing this choice upon them is not an international council, a standards body or regulating agency - it's a corporation, answerable to it's shareholders alone.
Of course, with the current state of frenzy about cyber crime etc., people are going to buy into this. But in a similar manner, people are buying into AMP - "because it's faster". The danger here is that little by little, people will become increasing more accepting of Google's dictating how the web should work - which is exactly what Google want in the long term.
Re: Dumb move
"Just for fun, why not have your site browser sniff - and if it detects Chrome, display some appropriate text about the slurp-tastic nature of Google."
Wow. Now I know we've gone full circle - anyone here remember "Netscape crippled" sites?
Maybe it's because I watched Apollo 13 once to often back in the day, but I read "Hot Mic" and think "always on" - which, knowing Google, would not have surprised me in the slightest.
Maybe I just fell for click-bait...
"GOOGLE INVENTED KUBERNETES"
Um, yeah. Here's something else for you: Microsoft "invented" Windows - they also "invented" Internet Explorer. And then they got into a lot of trouble by using the fact that the vast majority of desktop PCs run Windows to push people into using Internet Explorer. It's called anti-competitive behaviour, and it's illegal in a lot of places...
"... the Google-spawned cloud orchestration system has gained major traction in the past year."
Any system can gain traction when the company behind it has wide-scale control of web search results. Try sticking "docker container orchestration" into Google's search vs other engines: unsurprisingly, "Kubernetes" is plastered all over Google's top results.
Re: Scary ...
I wonder how long it will be before we see an Alphabet-backed SSL cert provider...
"Googler saves Grammarly nazis from hacker invasion"
... with a four-day turn round from reporting to patch release. Am I the only one concerned by the speed of this, and whether or not it has been properly tested?
With that in mind, it's probably a bit premature to say "Google saved" anyone from anything.
Programmer, not developer...
I got into programming as a kid in the 8-bit days. It was a lot of fun: making the computer tell rude jokes, make noises at random intervals, or appear to crash upon pressing a key (got kicked out of my local computer store for putting that one on their display machines). Then I discovered game development - which at that time was still some way off becoming the 3D-fully-orchestrated-days-to-play-online-DLC-fest that it is now... yeah, I had to pick up some art and design skills, but I was still writing a lot of code.
Fast forward 25 years to now - "developers" are expect to be "full stack" - back-end, front-end, this JS framework, that ORM, these server architectures, those cloud infrastructures, agile methodology, continuous integration and deployment... the list goes on. And - here's the real kicker - nine times out of ten, we're expected to learn this all on our own time; either because promised training has never materialised, or time to train simply doesn't make enough profit.
Sure, I've learned enough to keep my head above water. Some of it I've continued to enjoy. But this expectation that all "developers" want to spend the entirety of their waking lives trying to keep on the bleeding edge of everything is a blight on the art of creating software.
"We did ask Google for comment, but as usual we didn’t really get anything useful back."
A bit like their search engine then - unless you want adverts...
Re: What's a
On your average 8-bit machine:
10 print "Bombasic Bob woz ere!"
20 poke(rnd(0,65535), rnd(0,255))
30 goto 10
I think that's right - it's been a few decades...