* Posts by SImon Hobson

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Good luck securing 'things' when users assume 'stuff just works'

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Re: How about what BT/VM do?

now it does not broadcast a name at all.

Which is actually a negative level of security added.

Setting the SSID to hidden doesn't actually hide the SSID from anyone who wants to see it. In actual fact, it makes it get broadcast more often under many circumstances - just not in a way that makes it appear in normal users' WiFi list.

Why ? Because if you hide it, every device that you join to it must then broadcast to find it - in effect shouting "Is the network 'EffOff' around ?" Thus instead of one router advertising your SSID, each of your devices will be doing it - IIRC they'll be doing it all the time, when not connected they will be trying to connect, when connected they will be looking for other base stations that might have a better signal to roam to. For bonus points, your mobile devices will use more battery power as well.

So any WiFi analyser will show the hidden SSID network exists, it takes naff all effort to actually find out what that SSID is.

But, this is all academic anyway - unless the hacker is in close proximity then they won't be trying to connect to to your WiFi. Hard to do that from half way round the world.

I've arrived on Mars. Argggh, my back!

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Re: A never-ending study on how to mess up humans...

Another reason to use a ring is that it allows people to walk from one place to another. If you put two modules on the ends of a beam, then to get from one to the other you have a long "climb" to get from one module to the centre and then a long "decent" to get to the other module. Climbs and descents significantly increase the risk of injury from falls compared to something where you can walk "on the flat".

Joomla! readies patch for core vulnerability so critical it isn't talking

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Re: Damn ..

URLs are hardcoded in the DB and so the DB needs much fiddling with to move it between URLs.

Just to correct that misinformation ...

Base Wordpress has just two settings to change, both of which are on the main settings page. So moving a Wordpress site is "change these settings, export DB, copy/sync files to new location, import DB". However, some plugins do hardcode URLs etc - but that's not WordPress's fault.

Today the web was broken by countless hacked devices – your 60-second summary

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> Doesn't DNS get cached in various places?

Yes, but ...

This malware probably doesn't use the local cache - in fact it specifically won't because that would mostly defeat the purpose of the malware. It most likely looks up (or is told) the IP address(es) to attack and sends it's DNS queries directly to there - thus bypassing DNS caches completely.

Of course, ISPs (and savvy ned users) could block outbound DNS except to/from certain addresses - from the ISP side, they could restrict users from using anything but the ISP provided resolvers (and then get a right slagging off from tech savvy users fed up with the sort of crap resolvers many ISPs run). Even then, all the bot needs to do is generate multiple requests (eg a.target.tld, b.target.tld, ...zzzz.target.tld, aaaaa.target.tld, ...) and the cache is significantly less effective as each new request will cause a new lookup to the targets DNS servers - though this will also affect the resolver due to the rapidly increasing size of the cache.

But that's only DNS, you can't block (for example) HTTP traffic without effectively killing the internet !

This is where the botnets score. If a single device (or small number of them) is sending massive amounts of traffic then that's relatively easy to spot and block. But with a distributed attack (the first D in DDoS), you only have to generate a small amount of traffic from a huge number of devices. If done right, the DoS traffic is undetectable in amongst the legitimate traffic from the end users hosting the infected device.

Openreach split could damage broadband investment, says BT's chief exec

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Re: FTTP Order...eeek

Over reliant use of contractors

There are economies from buying in expertise that isn't your core business - but then BTOR are big enough that they could keep their own gangs busy.

Of course, if one were of a suspicious mind, the use of contractors might look like a means of getting around employment law. Permie staff have rights, staff working for a contractor that doesn't get it's contract renewed (because someone else has undercut them or they didn't meet the impossible targets set) get redundancy without any comeback. And I'm sure the ability to play contractors off against each other in a Dutch auction hasn't even entered their minds !

British jobs for British people: UK tech rejects PM May’s nativist hiring agenda

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Re: The UK is not educating people in Tech...

That means you are approaching the problem incorrectly.

In this case, no I'm not. I do have some friends "on the inside" and they're all telling me the same thing - the company is actively clamping down on any attempt to bypass HR, with "getting a mate to introduce you to the manager" was a well known to bypass the non-hiring process. For some jobs, but I;m told, none of the ones I'm interested in, there is an option for an employee to recommend someone (for which they get a bounty if that person gets hired).

The HR system there is clearly designed to prevent them hiring people. It's obvious to both applicants on the outside, and to people on the inside - especially frustrated managers who know that there are netter applicants (via word of mouth) than the handful that HR ever let them consider.

In one case I've been told about, the majority of applicants actually put forward for consideration were not actually eligible to work on the site due to nationality - now that's taking "broken" to a whole new level !

DNS infrastructure sprinting to IPv6 while users lag

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Re: Waiting for the crash...

Given DNS has been architected to spread the load

No, it is not to spread the load. DNS is architected to spread the administration so that the DNS for a ${something} can be managed by someone local to/supporting that ${something}.

Thus I can run my own DNS servers for my own domain - all they have to do is serve up record for my domain to outsiders, and server up resolved records to internal devices. The DNS architecture allows me to do that easily by setting the NS records (and glue) at the registry - rather than being beholden to ${some_big_organisation} and whatever they let me do with it.

That latter scenario was the case in the early days of the internet, when you had to get an entry put in a global hosts file, which was then synced out periodically to the few hundred/thousand systems then online. As you can well imagine, that didn't scale too well as the internet grew - hence why the heirarchical DNS as we know it today was developed.

Spreading the load is done by the same techniques that are used for spreading other loads. For example, 8.8.8.8 won't go to just one Google server - it'll be anycasted and load balanced between probably many thousands of servers spread across different parts of the world and internet. That load sharing isn't specific to the architecture of DNS.

HomeKit is where the dearth is – no one wants Apple's IoT tech

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Re: Solution looking for a problem

Not only that, but there is pretty well zero point in a connected toaster - until we also have a robot that can get the bread out, pick out a couple of slices, spot that it's not turned green and fuzzy yet, and pop it in the toaster. But of course, if we have such a robot, it can pop the lever down to turn on the toaster.

Ditto the kettle - what point is there being able to turn it on remotely unless you can fill it remotely. Fill it up beforehand, well doesn't that make the "you can do stuff remotely when you forgot before going out" bit rather moot ?

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Re: Would somebody...

I have a Raspberry Pi on my boat, about 150 miles away, with a couple of sensors and a webcam.

That's not the IoT crap that most people are talking about. That's something designed to do something actually useful, in a way that isn't really doable any other way. A far cry from taking something simple and mundane (eg a thermostat) and adding cost, complexity, and security issues by making it "internet" for little or zero actual benefit.

It knows it's warm outside tonight as its pulled that info from the internet

Guess what, that's one of those "why ?" features. You can get the local outside temperature without the internet, and more accurately, by ... measuring the local outside temperature. Back in the 1990s the office building I rented space in had just such a function and it didn't need the internet !

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Re: But I don't want any of them

... or that it can heat their bath water in advance

How very 1960s !

Really, how many people under the age of ... ooh ... around 60 - 70 don't just leave their hot water on automatic ? If you have a cylinder then you just let the system keep it hot - if you think that's expensive, spend a fraction of the cost of a Nest on insulating it ! Besides, most new houses I've seen lately have had a combi boiler<spit> so there's nothing to control - you turn the tap on, the boiler fires up.

And these combi boilers are truly horrible things anyway. They either have horrible lags (turn the tap on, wait a minute or two for hot water), or they have very significant standing losses. A few years ago I had the opportunity to compare the two - the well lagged thermal store I'd just installed in the flat had half the standing losses (around 80W) as the combi boiler in the house next door that I'd just bought. It's quite common that if I'm in the bathroom during the night, I'll be able to hear the noise through the radiator pipes of the combi boiler firing up to keep itself hot.

Now, as to the remotely controllable thermostat ...

As others have pointed out, good luck trying to use one stat to properly control heat to the whole house. I'm signed up at https://myradbot.com and waiting for the kickstarter campaign to start. Last I heard they were looking to be selling a pack of intelligent TRVs and a boiler relay for something like £150. If they manage that, then you'll get proper multi-room control - without the security issues (no internet connection unless you choose to do it) and without the complexity. Just a simple TRV where you turn one way for warmer and the other for cooler, and it works out when the rooms are occupied on it's own. Ie, I think even granny should be able to cope with it.

And absolutely no flippin way on earth would I consider having WiFi and the like as part of the fire alarm system - that's just crazy.

Sextortion on the internet: Our man refuses to lie down and take it

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Re: Amazon

> They seem oblivious to the consequences that this flags up.

Quite the reverse.

There's no consequences for them for situations like this - they just get to shift more tat in their war with eBay.

The consequences of admitting to a problem are more of a concern - hence why they'll not admit to the possibility of one.

Blighty's Home Office database blunders will deprive hundreds of GB driving licences

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Re: 259 individuals

Hard to know if you are being serious or sarcastic.

259 is 259 too many. Just think about it, one day you find your bank account has been closed and your driving licence revoked. Now what ?

Will your creditors, such the the mortgage company, take the attitude "that's OK Mr AC, we'll give you all the time you need to deal with this misunderstanding" or will they tell you "Sorry Mr AC, your mortgage is being called in, you've got until next Wednesday to repay it" ? If you're renting, then expect to be getting a notice to quit quite quickly after you stop paying the rent - or when the landlord is told you're an illegal immigrant and he gets a £3000 fine (or possibly even prison under new proposals) if he doesn't serve a S21 notice on you immediately.

Your employer isn't too likely to be impressed either - once you are declared an illegal immigrant then your employer has no option but to sack you.

So there you are - freshly out of a job, no money, no home, and fighting to clear your name from a presumption of guilt. But look on the bright side, when they round you up, you'll have a roof over your head in the detention centre.

Personally, I think that not one person should have to go through any of that. That officials seem to think it's a price worth paying is doubly bad. It's certainly not what I think "Great" Britain should be about.

Wi-Fi baby heart monitor may have the worst IoT security of 2016

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To be fair to Owlet, they are not selling ... their baby monitor as a medical device.

No, but (I assume) they are selling it on it's features which effectively means they ARE selling it to parents who expect a certain level of functionality. Ah, checks website, they most certainly are - with statements like "Designed to alert you if your baby stops breathing", "Proactively Monitors your baby’s heart rate and oxygen levels so you can have peace of mind", and "83% of parents who report better sleep while using the Owlet Baby Monitor". No doubt there that the expectation intended to be set is that you can fit this device and you can relax a bit "safe" in the knowledge that it'll alert you to problems.

Put another way, if you aren't going to rely on any of it's monitoring functions, then "why" buy it ? So if you assume that the device can't reliably alert you if the baby stops breathing, then your option is to check regularly - clearly if 83% of parents say they sleep better, a heck of a lot of parents are using the device to reduce the frequency they need to check.

OK, so you could argue that it may provide an alert in between your regular checks. Well unless there is some certainty (which it appears there isn't), then you can equally say that "the baby may die without any alert" which I assume won't be appearing on their website as a testimonial !

As to the disclaimer in the agreement - we all know how many people read those. So maybe the sort of person to be found in ElReg's forums will understand the limitations - the "average" person will believe this this device is something they can "rely" on.

What’s the link between Brexit, cloud and open source?

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Re: tl:dr

> It was the "We" in a certain set of questions that irked me

Especially when it comes to "does senior manager support IT" (or whatever the question was) - I bet there's a lot that think it doesn't !

Sckipio touts fibre-like symmetrical G.fast kit

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Re: Pitfalls of G.fast

There is potential for that device to send 240VAC onto the BT copper pair

There is already that. Just think that pretty well most phone lines these days will have some mains powered kit plugged into them - none of it under BT's control, and some of it from (staying polite) less conscientious manufacturers/sources. And of course, this existing kit will be subject to all the same potential problems (damp, damage, etc).

The other safety concern is having equipment powered from multiple premises - and thus creating a potential for a fault in one property to send a dangerous voltage into another. In practical terms this is unlikely as it would need multiple faults - a "power" fault in one property, a failure of the AC-DC converter in that same property causing dangerous voltages to be sent up the wire, a failure of the isolation on the other end of the wire (inside the BT device, so under their control), a failure of the isolation on another port allowing that dangerous voltage back out again, and a failure of the isolation at the other subscriber's end allowing them to get a shock. That's quite a catalogue of failures that have to happen at once - and having them occur over time and not be noticed is unlikely as some of them would affect service.

There is also the issue of lightning - but that is already a potential issue so I don't think there's any change in risk there.

Hungarian bug-hunters spot 130,000 vulnerable Avtech vid systems on Shodan

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Hang on lads, I've got an idea ...

Clearly the manufacturers of this crap don't care - if they cared the slightest they would have avoided at least the most obvious of those.

So, given that the information captured by these devices is most definitely considered "personal information", how about a complaint to the Information Commissioner - either by someone sho has bought one and "found out" that their information is being made insecure by the equipment design, or by someone who thinks their image may be on one of these devices. If the IC is prepared to play along, it might be able to get a ruling that has the effect of making the use of one of these devices illegal - and once the distributors are made aware, of course, whoever bought the test case device will want their money back won't they ;-), then they'll probably drop them.

OK, this won't stop sales completely - there's a lot of world outside of the EU, and a lot of personal/indirect imports. But perhaps having their product effectively declared illegal in part of the world might just get someone to think about it.

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Something needs to be done. Clearly "name and shame" doesn't work when the offenders have no shame.

As I see it, the only other way anything will happen is if the big ISPs take users off-line when they are detected to be part of a botnet. Perhaps getting a "You are harbouring a criminal" portal page instead of FarceBork will get end users interested in the problem. But I can't see the ISPs being interested - there's no money in it for them.

Pocket C.H.I.P. makers go Pro with cloud-linked ARM-flexing module for IoT gizmo builders

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Re: Glazed over at the mention of...

> Glazed over at the mention of... during reading comprehension classes

There, fixed it for you.

There is absolutely nothing in the article about this being "cloud linked or landfill" - had you actually read and comprehended it. This is about the manufacturer offering an OPTIONAL internet based update service for things they manufacture using these modules. That does NOT mean that the devices need to be cloud connected to work - they only need to be online to receive updates via this service.

Now, what a manufacturer decides to do with the modules is another matter. If the gadget manufacturer decides to make another Revolv then that's down to them - it's is not something inherent from using this module.

Dirty diesel backups will make Hinkley Point C look like a bargain

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Re: Brownouts don't really work anymore

The only such event I've seen written up is Sizewell/Longannet in 2008.

Blimey, I hadn't realised so much time had passed :-(

Anyway, I'm not sure my point was clear.

The short term operating reserve contribution from interruptible demand is no longer available for emergency response during peak hours. It's already in use for meeting routine peak hour demand.

Indeed I had missed your point.

You make a good point that the measures available to the controller back then are largely not available to them now when they are most likely to be needed. Still, we're busy installing new measures - we all know what smart meters are really all about !

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Re: Brownouts don't really work anymore

Correct, they are already doing that - but it takes time. I assume it's not "light go out in factory without warning" control, more like "pick up phone, call customer, tell them you're invoking their interruption clause" and then the customer deals with shutting stuff down cleanly. That takes time, and if you've just had a GW power station drop offline, you don't have that time.

So you hit the buttons to drop supply voltages, and other buttons to fire up whatever spinning/short term reserve you have, etc.

There is a good writeup somewhere (can't be bothered to look for it) on exactly how the grid controllers dealt with such an event in the last year or two. IIRC, they were "further bothered" by a second generator loss before they'd recovered from the first !

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Re: They could have build 10 GW scale tidal plants for the same amount of money

Just last week I went to a talk on the Swansea one that's getting under way around now.

Yes, it's a good technology, and yes it could provide quite a useful contribution.

Max 14 (or thereabouts) hours generating per day. Overall load factor of about 25% - ie take whatever rating they say, and divide by 4 because of the time it's not generating at all, or only generating at part load, or using power for pumping, and allowing for variations in tide height that affect the power available.

So yes, good technology, reliable, dependable, but still intermittent (even after adding on the variation in tide times around the country) and subject to variations in output over various timecales. But unlike wind, those variations are predictable in advance - years in advance so it's much more manageable.

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Re: Brownouts don't really work anymore

> Also, if it's a thermostatically controlled device (eg for heating), if the voltage reduces and the heat output also reduces, the device is likely to just run for longer before switching off

It depends on timescales.

It is a valid management technique for those "couple of minute" events - such as the gap between a big generator tripping and getting some replacement capacity spun up (and/or got some interruptible loads switched off). And immediate drop in voltage will create an immediate drop in load - the effects of thermostats being one for longer won't necessarily show up for a minute or two and will be phased in (depends on the thermal inertia, stat hysteresis etc) so hopefully you'll have something else run up before you need to consider that.

But as you say, it's only for a couple of minutes - and it has been used.

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Re: Greens just don't understand numbers

> Nuclear isn't super long term sustainable though. Think I remember we have enough for several thousand years at our current power usage but much like the number of humans power usage is going to continue to climb

But, I forget the numbers, we already have in storage in the UK enough fuel to last us something like a whole century even if we generated all our lecky from nuclear. The problem is that we don't treat all this fuel as what it is - but instead we label it as waste and spend vast amounts of money to get rid of it. That's like taking every tanker ship that comes into port, sending perhaps 2% of it's cargo to the refinery, and labelling the rest as waste to be expensively got rid of !

Yes, that is what we do with out nuclear fuel ! The problem, as always, are those "educated" by the hysterical media into believing that this is waste and not fuel. That same media, thanks guys, has made the population even more scared of the P word (Plutonium) than they are of the N word (Nuclear) - and so the sort of reactors that can use this "waste" as fuel are politically untenable due to the fact that they produce (but later burn) plutonium.

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Re: Heads in the cloud or so far up their...

> I have solar panels, and I do benefit from "everyone" who has to buy electricity.

And therein lies the rub. You are, to put it mildly, "well off" - you'd have to be to be able to afford the system. Or as a relative put it when ordering his, "if they're offering free money, I'll have some of that".

But your panels are part of the problem, and that you only include the FIT that you get in the economics is also part of the problem - it's the same "sleight of hand" the windmill apologists use.

The article is fairly well balanced actually - and makes the point that when your panels are in bright sunshine, something else (mostly OCGT) must "close the taps" a little; conversely, when the sun goes down or a cloud goes over, something elsewhere must "open the taps" a little.

So when you are generating, you are taking away income from an operator of a gas turbine - but that same operator is expected to be there to cover for when you can't supply anything. In addition, by having to start and stop more frequently, and ramp up output quite a lot at times, the wear and tear on the equipment is much higher which puts the running costs up at the same time as his total output is reduced - double whammy for increased per-unit lecky costs. Question for you, how much contribution do your panels make to the evening peak, on one of those cold dark, windless winter evenings when (in Dec 2010) we came very close to running out of reserve ? Answer - SFA !

So the true cost of your panels is not the FIT you see (or the ROCs for windmills), it also includes the higher per-unit cost of the lecky produced by the gas turbine operator, and the availability payments made to them to persuade them to stay open. That is a significant cost - and one that both the wind and sunshine lobbies are very quiet on, to the extent that you could call it being dishonest. And for those infrequent, but real, periods when demand is really high and renewables really do produce SFA - we end up with diesel because the capital is cheap, and they can sit around for long periods doing nothing but wait for them to be needed.

And don't expect France to save us via the cross channel interconnector. At the same time as we are in the dark, so will most of Europe, all having to import power from those countries still able to produce something. So Germany will be importing from Poland where they burn a lot of coal. Everyone will be hoping that France has some of it's nuclear power to spare, but generally will all have our gas turbines run up to max - and fingers crossed that nothing trips out.

Of course, give it a few more years and that latter situation will be dealt with - those (so called) "smart" meters are primarily there to allow for more fine grained rolling blackouts. As a kid we thought it was fun in the 70s - I don't think we would now with our much higher reliance on lecky.

BTW - I'm changing my consumer unit soon, and while I'm at it I'll be adding a generator input facility (then these green policies can result in my running a small and definitely non-green petrol genny to keep the lights on).

Internet of Things botnets: You ain’t seen nothing yet

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> Also if all food producers radio tagged all food with what it was and its expiry date.

Nope, that won't make it work either. It would need foods packaged such that the fridge could tell if it is an unopened packaged (in which case see the use by date) - or it's been opened in which case see the "consume within x days of opening" date.

In any case, I ignore those and go by the test that predates all this "use by" and "sell by" malarky. It worked for my parents, and it worked for their parents, and ... I don't recall any of us getting food poisoning (very often).

Lets face it, things like cheese and yogurt are "milk that's gone off" (in a special way). If the cheese hasn't gone green and fury then it's still OK to eat. And my nose tells me if the milk (that isn't supposed to be cheese or yogurt) is going off.

Linus Torvalds says ARM just doesn't look like beating Intel

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Re: Linux has facilitated the cituation he is lamenting about

> Windows did not allow any such liberties with the PC that is why it is so uniform.

Ah, those who don't remember history.

I can just about remember the early days of "the PC", though I was only involved as a user back then. You caould buy loads of "PC"s from other vendors, that came with PC-Dos from MS, and would run "PC" software. But they really didn't have the uniformity of hardware that people think - there was a lot of variation and MS would provide each manufacturer with a PC-Dos tweaked to suit.

As I recall (rather vaguely through the mists of time), it was some game reviewer in a magazine that coined the "PC Compatible" that people take for granted these days. SHe worked on the basis that if you could take ${random_game} off the shelf, unwrap it, and boot the PC with that disk and be able to play the game - only then was it "PC Compatible".

As so, fairly quickly, all the manufacturers quickly learned that they had to mimic the IBM PC fairly closely (eg putting the serial ports at the same I/O addresses etc) or they'd be labelled as "not compatible" and would lose sales. Thus the "PC Compatible" standard "happened" !

I deliberately say "happened" because it wasn't really designed, it sort of came into being in a very accidental way.

AIUI, the original IBM PC wasn't actually an IBM project. Some small electronics company took a National Semiconductor data sheet/design notes for their 8080 family of processors, and with very little of their own design, made an implementation of a suggested system design. IBM were geared up to "big stuff" (where productivity is measured in how many lines of code you make, not how small you make it !) and as they could see the likes of Commodore and Apple eating their lunch in the small office - bought the company and stuck an IBM badge on it.

Thus the original PC was born, and more or less by accident, the design "choices" made by Nat Semi and some never heard of hardware house became the de-facto industry standard.

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But Linus is right about ARM. It's not the processor, it's the way every system manufacturer does their own thing - in the same way that the original desktop PC makers did. The difference is that there is no process these days that would pressure any of them into following any standard - eg each phone is made to run a specific OS provided by the device manufacturers, and thrown away before it needs too many upgrades. So the manufacturers really don't give a sh*t how hard it is for anyone else to put a different OS on it - long gone are the days when the games came with their own OS to boot the system into.

In the server world that may change eventually, but not for anything else.

And the modern user (in general) doesn't give a sh*t either as long as they can get their cat videos on FarceBork.

Prime Minister May hints at shaking up Blighty's 'dysfunctional' rural broadband

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Re: good starting point

> But doesn't provide power to the phone to keep it going if the site power dies.

True, but sometime in the last few centuries, someone invented a device called a battery. IIRC, the NTE used by BT in the trial is locally powered, but has backup batteries. Which is all nice except ...

I've lost count of the number of bits of kit I've come across over the years with dead rechargeable batteries - so I do wonder what the long term plan is for battery maintenance in these units.

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Re: good starting point

> Terminating fiber costs more, as does the the optical interface in the router.

BT ran trials in a couple of villages where they removed all copper and went all fibre. The end user gets a termination that includes a couple of standard phone sockets so get what (to them) is a standard phone line - but which is then digital from the termination box in their house, instead of turning to digital at the line card in the exchange.

Don't forget that pretty well all telephony is now digital - it's just a case of where the analogue turns to digital. All but the smallest business users, for example, have digital phone lines into digital phone systems, and the only analogue bit is the curly cord and handset on the user's desk.

So having telephony being digital to the premises is nothing new and isn't hard or expensive.

IIRC BT announced that actually it would be cheaper to have FTTP and on-premises conversion. While the kit cost more than the very cheap master socket (very cheap, they don't even put brass inserts in for the screws now !), overall it saves them money as it's more reliable and diagnostics are easier.

So it would make sense for all new-build developments (at least over a certain size) to have FTTP. The cost to BT is very slightly higher in up-front costs IF they install the electronics up front, but long term it would be cheaper. They, or other ISPs they resell through, would have the option of charging different monthly costs for different services. So it would not mean everyone having the choice of nothing or a 300+Mbps service costing hundreds of quid a month.

It's certainly hard to see how it couldn't be cheaper than FTTC which is a complicated and expensive way of doing things which is only economic because of the cost of retrofitting fibre to existing premises.

And of course, the longer we carry on not getting started because "it's too big a job", the bigger we make the problem of having a sh*tload of installed copper to sweat the assets from.

'Please label things so I can tell the difference between a mouse and a microphone'

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WTF?

Many years ago, those who know what I'm talking about will be able to dat it, there was a game on Macs called Crystal Quest - and it was hard on mouse buttons with the need for lots of "rapid fire" presses. Also, this was in the early days when the Mac mouse connected with a 9 pin D connector and just passed the rotary encoder and mouse button switch signals to the host for processing.

So I rigged up a little circuit that when switched to "game" mode made the mouse button just gate a pulse generator - meaning you just held the button down for as long as you wanted a stream of projectiles launching.

Then at work, the guy opposite me (back to back desks) got a Mac as it was required for something to do with a project he was contracted on - and I suspect you are well ahead of me here. It took them quite a while before they found the cable hidden under some randomly positioned papers that led to the "game"/"normal" switch on my side of the desk. The icon sums up the guys reactions before they found it.

B'stards wouldn't let me have my gizmo back for ages though - it was a b'ger playing Crystal Quest without it.

The other fun one was setting the alarm clock to sound the hours - using a nice long sound like a recording of "I'm sorry Dave, I can't do that" from 2001, and turning the sound right up. Of course, you do that anytime he leaves his desk just before mid-day.

Linus Torvalds admits 'buggy crap' made it into Linux 4.8

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> It amazes me for someone who is such a perfectionist that this was allowed to slip in

My WAG* would be that Linus doesn't personally pore over every single line of code. More likely there are several "grades" of dev - with the best and most trusted allowed to submit their own code with little light handed oversight; while at the other extreme, there are devs (notably from the Freedesktop.org camp, see previous stories on Linus's rants) who don't get anything in without someone more trustworthy having vetted it.

* Wild Ar*ed Guess

'Too big to fail' cloud giants like AWS threaten civilization as we know it

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Re: Business Continuity

> You use two different cloud providers to provision business continuity.

Does that also mean paying double the dev costs for setting it up ?

Notice that there isn't a nice agreed-upon common way of doing stuff across providers ? Good reason for that, all of them are in the business of making it hard for your to not put all your eggs in their basket. Also, there's price barriers put up in terms of traffic going out of the cloud vs internal traffic.

So while I agree with you completely, I strongly suspect that if you are using "cloud" rather than just "online hosting" of your own servers, there's a cost (and complexity) penalty in terms of supporting two different APIs, and regardless of how it's done, cost penalties for traffic in keeping the two systems synced.

Hence, a lot of outfits will rely on the distribution facilities in one cloud provider for their redundancy - and we know how well that works. C.f. when not long ago some of us weren't able to access our "hosted in the EU" Office 365 mail because there was a US based authentication server with a problem !

Telcos hit out against plans to hike their broadband rates

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> It's a little more complicated than that, but I can see why it looks that way you describe it.

There is actually quite a bit of evidence to suggest that BT(OR)does (or at least has done in the past) engage in such aggressive anti-competition tactics. For example, round our way there's a lot of rural greenery - ie not exactly the sort of place where BT OR wants to spend a lot of (other people's - our county councils have given them a lot of dosh) money to build out FTTC etc.

So there is a community project that's been steadily over the years been building out gigabit FTTP. On more than one occasion, their announcement along the lines of "our next expansion of the network will be into X,Y, and Z villages and area" has been quickly followed by a BT announcement that "X, Y, and Z will soon be getting fibre". Absolutely nothing whatsoever has changed in the demographics or geography - the only change is that the customers in these areas will soon have an alternative (and much better) option.

I suppose that you could argue that if the residents in a village show that they are prepared to put the effort in (it's a community project remember) and pay for the quite reasonable connection costs, that might influence the guestimate of what the market is for FTTC. But mostly it looks very much like a spoiler operation - to try and prevent that competitor from getting a foothold by stealing their customers with a promise of FTTC at some future date that amazingly keeps slipping and slipping.

Other examples involve villagers clubbing together and contracting with some outfit to do a microwave link to someone's house and distribute from there. Again, BT suddenly announcing that the economics have suddenly changed - and it's completely coincidental - suddenly looks very much like a spoiler to get enough of those villagers to change their mind and make the project uneconomic. For the FTTC install date to keep slipping once the threat of competition is off the table is again a complete coincidence.

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So yes, there will be some element of different operators making the same economic case and coming to the same conclusion. But there really is too much of a sh*tload of coincidence for anyone to believe there's no spoiling going on on BT(OR)'s part.

Sad reality: Look, no one's going to patch their insecure IoT gear

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> and probably installed yet another app on your phone

And then, in the name of "usability" you find that instead of being able to push a button to turn it on/off, you have to remember where you left your phone, switch it on, unlock it, find the right app, wait while it connects with the vacuum, and only then can you turn it on. That is, if you didn't forget to plug your phone in, in which case insert another step of finding the charger, waiting till there's enough in the battery to turn the phone on, wait while the phone boots up, ...

Much the same argument about lighting. I have a switch on the wall by the door. It doesn't move around at random, I can't misplace it, it never needs batteries charging, and it works (in human perception terms) instantly - I switch it on, room gets lighter, I switch it off, room gets darker. Even my octogenarian mother can cope with the humble light switch.

The web is past peak innovation: It's all negative returns from here

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And no-one has mentioned Microsoft's online Sharepoint where the question one thinks to yourself when opening it is "I wonder how much crappier they've made it today". It seems that any time there's a Y in the day they'll change the UI "because they can" - and it's usually for the worst, and as pointed out above, usually to make it work on tiny screens and screw anyone trying to use a proper screen.

And as mentioned above, DVLA - the epitome of a piss poor website where the "designer" has some fetish for wasted space painted white.

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> how do you dial in exactly 1 minute, 20 seconds on a dial?

Why would you ever need to ?

In all the nuking I've ever done, "give or take" 10 seconds on that would not be an issue. There's variation in the amount of ${food}, there's variation in composition of ${food}, there's variation in where on the plate ${food} is put, ...

For me, bung ${food} in nuker, guestimate how long it'll need, turn dial - see how it comes out. If I underestimated then I give it a bit more. As for stuff exploding, two things ...

For sausages - prick them first.

For everything, just cover it then when it does explode (baked beans are good for exploding) then it's only on the cover that you drop in the washing up bowl along with the rest of the pots.

Two knobs is pretty much the epitome of basic functional design. Everyone can use it without a manual, it's clear what the settings are, and it's simple. At work they got a new microwave, and it needs a notice on the wall as it's really not as simple as 1-2-0-go. Epitome of poor functional design, because while it (if you like that sort of thing) looks OK, it needs more button presses than makes sense to "just use it" - simple things like having to select the power level (never seen anyone use other than full) every time before selecting the time.

Did last night's US presidential debate Wi-Fi rip-off break the law?

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> Can't they connect their phones with bluetooth or USB ?

That does, of course, mean knowing in advance that you won't be able to use WiFi and going properly equipped. If you are used, as I am, to just turning on the mobile hotspot and using WiFi then you probably aren't equipped with the right cables, software setup, etc to do it any other way.

US govt pleads: What's it gonna take to get you people using IPv6?

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WTF are people smoking

Time and time again I see comments effectively saying "why didn't they just add extra bits but keep compatibility with IPv4 ?"

Look, this is NOT possible. IPv4 has a set of specs for what's in the headers - and there is absolutely no way, really NO way to change that without breaking every piece of hardware or software that deals with anything in those headers.

Add more bits to the address - everything breaks and has to be upgraded. Every bit of software has to be changed to cope with an address storage variable that isn't 32 bits long, and be capable of determining which length to use. Every bit of hardware (eg dedicated routing engines) has to be upgraded with larger registers. Similarly if you do anything else to "expand" such as expanding the port number size to make NAT "better"

So when someone suggests that we could have "simply upgraded IPv4" then they are either deluded or lying<period>.

Yes, there are things in IPv6 that could possibly have been done better. But some of the changes have been done to make things better. I have noticed that some of the criticisms come from people who have never used anything but ethernet - and hence see no reason for some of the changes.

Unfortunately there is some relearning to be done - but if you are in "IT" and can't cope with some new skills learning then you are in the wrong industry !

So once you accept that there are no magic unicorns (somehow upgrade to longer addresses without breaking everything), why not take the opportunity to do things actually better rather than just bigger ?

Ordinary punters will get squat from smart meters, reckons report

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Re: FFS- are you sure?

Are you sure? It didn't work for 48% of Britons who voted in a recent opinion poll?

There, fixed that for you ;-)

Yes as already said, there was an enormous amount of crap spouted on both sides. I voted leave for none of the mainstream fear mongering reasons - but because I thin that the pain we'll have from leaving will be less than the ongoing pain would be for staying. It's clear that those with the controls in the EU have no intention of listing to any of the voices warning of the impending shipwreck when they hit the clearly visible iceberg dead ahead.

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Re: Doesn'nt Brexit make this optional?

> ... 100,000 separate meters made, installed and administered by 30 different companies

But all built to a common standard for comms and security, and linked up by one network, to one database.

And like the data is going to be ours (as per the article). Presumably that will mean it's ours in the same way as our health data - only as long as we are vigilant and kick up a sh*tstorm every time the government spots an opportunity to flog it if we don't realise and opt out. Or, of course, until it's leaked or the database is hacked, or ...

As has been said many times, almost all the benefits of "smart" meters can be done without any of the security problems or privacy intrusions. Remote meter reading doesn't need a detailed analysis by 1/2 hour of our consumption - it just needs a reading of each register.

But this is a "we can collect it, we don't bother with whether we should collect it".

Disney rollercoaster helps pop out kidney stones

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Re: Horrible fascination

> Magically, they did this without cutting me open. (You can use your imagination but I simply refer to it as Pee-hole Surgery.....)

Ah, I like that name.

When I had to have a stone taken out, I'd have people asking me what seem pretty silly questions - one asked if they wen't down my throat to get to it ! Once I start with an explanation of why there's only one route in, there seem to be a lot of legs crossed :-)

As to what a kidney stone feels like ....

I didn't pass mine, and I'm not sure whether that's a good thing or a bad thing. But having the stone, I would describe the pain as like someone having crept up from behind, stabbed you with a blunt screwdriver and is twisting it around. Meanwhile, someone else has lassood one of your nuts and is swinging off it. All I can say is, the IV paracetamol when I got admitted in A&E was a welcome relief.

Now, I mentioned I had surgery - pee-hole surgery - to get it out. After they'd taken it out, as a day case but kept in overnight, the day case unit and ward failed to properly communicate. So the day case unit send me "out" with some pain relief, the ward didn't give it to me. The first time going to the loo after pee-hole surgery is ... "eye watering". It just isn't describable, and I imagine the aftermath of passing a stone is similar.

People in the know kept saying that it's worse than childbirth.

If it could be induced on demand, a kidney stone would make an excellent torture.

As an aside, according to the CAA, the peak times for recurrence is after 2 years and 7 years - that's when they require re-examination to confirm absence of any further stones for a pilot's medical.

Security man Krebs' website DDoS was powered by hacked Internet of Things botnet

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Re: GRE packets?

> ... just block the GRE ports and ignore such requests?

Well that would be what the DDoS management service would do. But it needs the ability to divert all the traffic through a site which a) has the bandwidth and b) is able to apply filters to that volume of traffic.

Most ISPs won't have the means to redirect all that traffic AND filter it - even if they have the upstream bandwidth. Trying to filter it at your own site is useless because it's too late then - a few Gbps of traffic down your 10-100Mbps pipe will completely overwhelm everything.

And then there is the issue that dealing with this needs prior planning. It's no good phoning up your ISP and asking them to do it "on the fly" as they won't have anything in place. This is where the DDoD mitigation services come in - what to do when it happens is pre-arranged, so you call them up, they trigger the required changes (typically changing the advertised route), and filter the traffic from their own network before passing it (the filtered :good: traffic) on to you.

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Re: What's an IOT device owner to do?

> ... what can an IOT device owner do to minimize the risk of their device being used this way?

Unplug it ?

WTF ... makes mobile phone batteries explode?

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Re: Charging

> ... your 2 amp charger is delivering 4 times the energy of the 500 milliamp charger ...

Have a downvote for not understanding how these things work.

The 2A supply will only supply more current IF the device demands it. It's a complete and utter myth that swapping out (say) a 1 A supply for a (say) 2A one will somehow "push" more current into the device. The number of times I've had to correct people because they believe that a (say) 85W supply will damage a laptop that originally only came with a (say) 65W supply ... well I;ve lost count.

So if the 2A supply doesn't signal in a way the phone understands* that it can do 2A then the phone will not take 2A - it will limit it's draw to just 0.5A. Now extra current, no extra power, no problem. If the supply correctly signals that it's a higher power device, then the phone may draw more power for fast charging - but it will have been designed to do that and it should be safe.

But if a device isn't designed to use more power, then plugging it into a higher current capable supply will not make it draw any more current.

* There are now standards for signalling, but in the early days, each manufacturer had standards of their own. So (for example) a supply that would fast charge an iPhone wouldn't necessarily fast charge a Samsung, and vice-versa.

TV industry gets its own 'dieselgate' over 'leccy consumption tests

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So let me get this right ...

${regulatory_body} lays down tests that ${product} must pass. Manufacturers make products which pass those tests. ${regulatory_body} acts all surprised when it's noticed that products passing it's tests behave differently under different conditions.

Just like the dieselgate row, the product passed the tests laid down - that's all there is to it. If ${regulatory_body} wants ${product} to behave in a specific way under specific situations/conditions then they need to make their tests representative of those conditions.

All this shows (yet again) is that if you lay down specific tests/targets, then people will work to them. This isn't news to any of us - except perhaps the people doing the complaining.

Schools get assessed on certain things (like exam results) - so they start to teach towards maximising those things they are assessed on. Those with long memories will recall when cars were taxed on engine size, with breaks at 1600cc and 2000cc resulting in all manufacturers having 1598 and 1998cc engine options. Then taxman decides he's missing out and moves the goalposts - resulting within a very short time in 1798cc engine options. Hospital waiting lists are another example.

None of this is news, sigh

IPv4 apocalypse means we just can't measure the internet any more

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Re: How much is a IPv4 address worth

I would expect the standard allocation to be a static /64; is there reason to suspect something else?

Err, how about because most large ISPs are run by complete sh**s who will do anything to make it easier to squeeze more money out of "power" users. Given that some ISPs will not give a static IPv4 address, and others will only do it if you pay extra for a business connection AND also charge you extra rent for the address - I see no reason they won't do exactly the same with IPv6.

These are the ISPs in the race to the bottom of the murky pond where life is a muddy mess of squeezed margins and gullible punters who can't see past the headline price. Having outcompeted themselves on how cheap they can sell the service, they then need every trick they can muster to make a profit.

Needless to say, I'm with an ISP that costs more, but doesn't do this sort of stuff.

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Re: How much is a IPv4 address worth

reboot the router and your address changes

And of course, with no address translation, this means all your internal addresses also change. That's one heck of a PITA for anyone but the "consume only" ones for whom the internet consists of Google and FarceBork.

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Re: How much is a IPv4 address worth

>I fear there is a disjunct between what I am saying and what people are reading into it.

No, I see no disjunct there.

> Nothing I have said contradicts the way that network kit works.

Wrong again, sorry.

> Afraid all I can offer as credentials is 45 years in computer networking development and troubleshooting a large number of very convoluted large system problems.

"Oh dear".

The DNS is irrelevant - because as stated, the bad guys won't be using it. Fixed vs dynamic IP is irrelevant, because the bad guys aren't targeting YOU, they will be scanning address ranges just looking for open ports etc. And if you don't trust your own router, then YOU have the power to install a decent one - expecting your ISP to do it better is (in many cases) ... err lets just call it optimistic !

So basically your rant comes down to paranoia over a DNS entry that the bad guys won't be using, paranoia over the potential for your router to have flaws, and an irrational belief that your ISP will do it better.

Microsoft sues Wisconsin man (again) for copyright infringement (again)

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Is it just me ...

But as I read it, Microsoft are claiming that he's selling codes which they themselves created - but are also claiming that he's lying when he says that they are authorised by Microsoft. Either MS did create them and they are genuine; or they didn't create them and they aren't.

The fact that they were generated for a different purpose to what they are being sold for is a different matter - but it doesn't change the fact that these are, according to the article, genuine keys generated by Microsoft.

And I'm with the other - a pox on MS for their deliberately opaque and confusing licensing system where a licence key for "Windows $version" apparently isn't a licence key for "Windows $version" if you have the audacity to want to install and run "Windows $version" from the wrong (and not in any way labelled as to the differences) "Windows $version" installer disk.

Apple seeks patent for paper bag - you read that right, a paper bag

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Re: The problem

> If this blatant absurdity goes through

Which based on past performance it will ...

And then Apple will have another stick with which to beat smaller players. Once they have a patent, they can go round suing pretty well anyone making OR USING paper bags - basically it's the joker in the litigation pack and pretty well gives them ammunition against just about everyone.

So when some small retailer falls out with Apple in some way, Apple can sue them for patent infringement - and it's then up to the defendant to prove the patent false (or that their own bags don't infringe). Given I've read that such action can cost in the order of $250,000 or more, how many small retailers could defend that ? So then it becomes a "how little will Apple settle for" game and there's a nice little extortion racket - with a "and as well as the damages, you agree to do/not do <whatever it was Apple doesn't like>" tacked on, making it another means for the big bully (Apple) to stop smaller people doing things Apple don't like

Yes, it will get invalidated when Apple take on someone able to mount a defence, but that can take years.

Target lost, Cruz missile misses: Ted's ICANN crusade is basically over

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Re: Sooo ....

You missed the bit about ICANN showing all the signs of a body who's primary function is to ensure that the pork trough is as big and full as possible regardless of anything else.

Now I think we can look forward to "revised" costs for TLDs just about anything they have a role in, and that can only mean one thing as the effects trickle down - higher costs for us to fill up their pork trough.

HP Inc's rinky-dink ink stink: Unofficial cartridges, official refills spurned by printer DRM

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Some years ago I was foolish enough to buy an HP OfficeJet 9100. We'd used them at work and they seemed "OK", and they were on clearance from some ex-rental/demo outfit so the rpice was reasonable. Then one day it wouldn't work - the ink had expired. Not "run out", but expired. Completely undocumented was that the ink expired 18 months after installation in the printer regardless of how much is used or the fact that it was still working fine (or as fine as the clogged printheads from lack of regular use would allow).

Surely this is wrong I thought ? I phoned Consumer Direct (because in those days you weren't allowed to contact your local Trading Standards any more) to be met with a "so what" attitude. The person really couldn't see that this was any problem whatsoever - and THAT is the biggest part of the problem. If the authorities won't stamp on manufacturers that do stuff like that (especially without warning) then they'll do it.