Posts by Dan 55

Re: RE: Mooseman

You said:

Instead of the border being between the UK and Ireland it could be between Ireland and the EU.

You which I said:

Have you asked Ireland their opinion?

Them also having sovereignty and that. Perhaps they don't want to leave the single market and customs union which works for them just to make life easier for the UK, when it was the UK which decided to leave.

To which you replied:

Yes we asked their opinion, there was a referendum. The United Kingdom (including Northern Ireland) are leaving the EU.

You say I'm the idiot (your gramatical error removed), but I'm afraid replaying the conversation back leads us to a different conclusion.

Yet again I dont think you quite follow the situation or are just being an idiot. We are currently still in the EU we cannot have other trade agreements. The EU doesnt allow it.

There was the word "will" in my original post. Perhaps that gives you a clue?

Perhaps the enormity of getting 700-odd non-trade agreements that the UK will be leaving agreed all over again as well as enough trade agreements to replace the current EU ones is finally dawning? What's it like realising you're on the wrong side of history?

Re: They should talk to Canada and India next

Thanks ESA for pressing the point home, you bunch of ****s.

The rule, lobbied for by the UK at the time, was that the ESA would only allow EU companies to bid for Galileo contracts.

So, this is what leaving means. You should be happy, it's proof you've left.

Re: RE: Mooseman

What has that got to do at all even slightly with what you quoted?

Lost imports and exports from the UK will be made up with trade agreements with other countries, which the UK doesn't have. Simples.

Re: RE: Mooseman

I was responding to "Have you asked Ireland their opinion?". NI was asked and is leaving as part of the UK. ROI is part of the EU and they are not leaving the EU nor planning on asking are they? So what is your point and is there one?

Let's copy and paste something from Wikipedia:

Article 4 of the Constitution of Ireland declares that the name of the state is Ireland; Section 2 of the Republic of Ireland Act 1948 declares that Republic of Ireland is "the description of the State".

Anyway, from now on you are not allowed to refer to Spain as Spain, instead you must call it The Kingdom of Spain. If you do call it Spain, I reserve the right to be deliberately obtuse.

Re: Dan 55

The fact that Vote Leave received incorrect advice does not absolve them, they still have to follow the law and still have to be fined.

Stronger In also received incorrect advice but it did not breach spending limits.

As for punishment budgets, that's a Tory Party thing. It probably turns them on.

Re: RE: Mooseman

Just like they did the recession which they are still years behind in recovery?

The EU have negotiated an agreement with Japan and are just starting to negotiate one with NZ. When it comes to imports and exports at least, the UK will not be missed.

The UK meanwhile us hitting reset on trade agreements and 700+ other agreements and will have to start from scratch.

No-one pro-Brexit has managed explain how the UK can catch up to where was before. It'll take decades (probably the only thing JRM is right about) and you and I will probably be dead.

Re: RE: Mooseman

Yes we asked their opinion, there was a referendum. The United Kingdom (including Northern Ireland) are leaving the EU.

You seriously don't know the difference between Northern Ireland and Ireland?

Re: Tigra 07

Lies and "alternative facts" - it's established fact that Banks was funded from Russia, one Leave group illegally funded the other, and Cambridge Analytica targeted swing voters.

The Remain campaign was guilty of an insipid campaign and forecasting the apocalypse in the immediate days after the referendum (then again the QE probably helped), but I really fail to see where lies are on the same scale as Leave's campaign.

But now, knowing what we now know two years later, it would not be anti-democratic to run the advisory referendum again.

Re: Tigra 07

Really? You can't go to Europe anymore? Telling porkies are we?

No deal means planes or trains grounded until agreement, it's in the government's own technical notes. After Brexit, it will be harder to live and work in Europe than it is now unless you're lucky enough to have Irish ancestry.

I won't dignify the rest of your post with a reply because it's bollocks.

Re: RE: Mooseman

Northern Ireland didn't get a vote - The UK did. The opposite of how the UK didn't get a vote during the Scottish independence referendum - Only Scotland did.

Of course Northern Ireland got a vote as did England, Wales, and Scotland. The results are available by region. Much like the referendum result itself (from those who bothered to vote) it was a tie, NI and Scotland voted in, England and Wales voted out. What gives England and Wales the right to a) dictate that there's a Brexit and b) it's a hard Brexit/no deal which is completely out of line with 52%-48% and 2 countries-2 countries?

Over 75% of voters at the last election voted for parties pursuing Brexit.

Nope. Labour is still resolutely sat on the fence, the government is a minority government propped up by the minority DUP in Northern Ireland.

It's not difficult buddy, we've had 3 votes now and you lost all 3. Move on and grow up you anti-democrat.

lol, you believed Aaron Banks, Cambridge Analytica, and the Internet Research Agency when they said it would be good to jump off a cliff and voted that we all jump of a cliff, why are you still angry, why aren't you happy you won?

Brexiteers are still angry Brexit isn't about facts, data, or information, Brexit is just a feeling. They know that they have no answers to complicated questions nor any inclination to find out because that might make them change their mind, and that's why they've got nothing but 'we won, you lost, get over it'.

Re: RE: Mooseman

1 general election to get the vote, 1 referendum to get the result, 1 general election to confirm the result.

Wrong, it's a minority government propped up by the DUP for £1.5bn, which didn't represent NI's remain vote. The result was not confirmed, certainly not to the extent of leaving the SM and CU.

We have been in the EU a couple of decades and voted to leave because we were not happy with it.

See the Anywhere but Westminster series then come back to me.

Throughout the EU people are voting increasingly against the EU and countries (France for example) will not give the voters a choice because they will likely vote leave.

Not one right-wing populist party in an EU country in government or in coalition has any intention of leaving the EU or the eurozone. Greece doesn't either. Even they recognise it's not perfect but it's better in than out.

"Brexit is impossible to deliver"

Actually that is entirely incorrect as it can be unilaterally delivered with no requirement to get any agreement. We can brexit by our own choice to not participate in the project any longer.

Getting a deal might be harder, getting some fantastic wet dream deal might be impossible but brexit is very possible.

Brexit is possible but will fail. A deal in impossible. So reckons this expert (first link, second link), if you care to listen.

Re: RE: Mooseman

Instead of the border being between the UK and Ireland it could be between Ireland and the EU. I hear the EU red lined that themselves so thats impossible to do.

Have you asked Ireland their opinion? Them also having sovereignty and that. Perhaps they don't want to leave the single market and customs union which works for them just to make life easier for the UK, when it was the UK which decided to leave.

The fact is an NI sea border would not make any practical difference, it's already there for food and livestock.

Re: Tigra 07

Cat gate was given credibility by a certain Theresa May to further her agenda. You should not believe everything (anything?) she says.

The cat example

It has been reported in several newspapers that a Bolivian man has been spared deportation on Article 8 grounds (right to respect for family life) because of his pet cat.

(for example, The Sun, 9 February 2011; Sunday Telegraph, 12 June 2011; Daily Mail, 17 June 2011)

The Home Secretary also referred to this case in her party conference speech in 2011, saying: “We all know the stories about the Human Rights Act…The illegal immigrant who cannot be deported because – and I am not making this up – he had pet a cat. This is why I remain of the view that the Human Rights Act needs to go.”2

In fact the immigration judge found that it would be disproportionate on Article 8 grounds to remove this claimant because he had a long-term relationship with a person settled in the UK and they had lived together for four years.3 The reference to the cat was one detail amongst many provided by the couple as evidence of the genuineness of their long-term relationship. The judge also relied on a former Home Office policy4 which said that if an individual lived in the UK with a settled spouse for two years or more without enforcement action being taken against them, they were entitled to leave to remain. The Home Office appealed but a senior immigration judge upheld the decision on the basis of the former Home Office policy.5 All other factors in the original determination, including ownership of the cat, were deemed “immaterial”.

Source (PDF)

Re: RE: Mooseman

And a Canada or South Korea-style FTA are only possible with an NI sea border, which is another red line. So that's impossible too.

When that slide was made that red line wasn't known, but now it's known that slide should be modified to cascade all the way down to no deal.

Re: RE: Mooseman

I am not sure which part you dont believe? Is it the EU in multiple self inflicted crises? Repeated claims that it will be the end of the project by those in the project (and support the project)? Or that they have finally come around to the idea of reform (I can understand your disbelief at this)?

Well, the part I quoted just some text from the end of your post so there, what I don't agree with is all of it. Just the deluge of Brexit good, EU bad.

The EU is not perfect, I don't think anyone claimed it was, but the current political class in the UK however is a thousand times worse. It has been unable to do anything about the UK's own problems during the past two and a half years. Any policy announcement is not based on logic or evidence. The government is divided, the opposition useless. The Brexit referendum itself was a vote on how happy people were and May took a knife-edge referendum result, set up some red lines, and made practically anything except no deal impossible.

What's the latest? The ERG saying their hard Brexit plan would add a trillion pounds to the economy then two weeks later saying a Super Canada proposal would be the perfect deal (it wouldn't) and today Mogg said that there must not be an Irish Sea border, which was an essential part of the Super Canada proposal. A few days ago there was the fucking Foreign Secretary of all people using "EUSSR" which he probably got from the Daily Mail and today complaining about Russia (how's that for irony).

It's b o l l o c k s. All of it. Brexit is impossible to deliver, has no upside that any rational economist can find (Minford doesn't count), has no basis in fact. It's just Cameron's gamble to so the Tory party doesn't lose electorate and politicians turned by May into a valve so the disaffected can release steam, pointed towards the EU instead of where it should be, the government.

And that is why I don't agree with the ridiculous laundry list of failure that you find the need to post every time there's a Brexit discussion. The EU is not perfect, but this bollocks is a whole lot worse.

Re: RE: Mooseman

Too late. The EU is in multiple self inflicted crises, the chaos is already there. Everything is going to be the end of the EU and Eurozone according to its presidents and leaders of member countries. They are finally talking of reforming the EU after all this time because it has finally penetrated their little bubble that the project is in a dire state. Cant blame the UK for wanting some distance from that wreck.

You suffer from the same problem as the UK's political class... just because you say it is so, it doesn't make it true.

Re: TL;DR

Slightly fucked, regular fucked, extra fucked or proper fucked

Why limit yourself to 'or' when there's an 'and'?

Re: Some under the hood changes...

Should have stuck Silverlight for VM in a VM, he said with 20/20 hindsight.

Re: To some MSDOS was an major leap forward.

The real problem was memory usage, whether on the 286 or 386 onwards. OS/2, Unix, and Windows NT all used a considerable amount of memory for the time. They all had spotty driver support, and native applications were in short supply.

OS/2 was late 80s and NT was early 90s, neither were around at the start of the 80s. By their release the memory problem was more-or-less solved. Unix was around but neither that nor CP/M could compete with DOS in terms of memory usage which was what mattered then. Unix also really needed memory management which didn't appear until the 286.

So that's why MS-DOS was so popular, it ran on everything, but using MS-DOS and DOS software on a 286 was like using a Ferrari in first gear to go to the shops.

Re: Ah! So you ARE *that* Richard Speed

The Windows NT and 2000 source code leaked about 15 years ago, it must still be floating about out there.

Re: To some MSDOS was an major leap forward.

By the time you installed the platform update on Vista, there was little between Vista and 7.

Re: To some MSDOS was an major leap forward.

Back in the day UNIX was 16 bit.

More than likely because most Z80 machines back in the day only had enough memory for a UNIX kernel and not much else.

A Spectrum 128K/+3 or Amstrad CPC 6128 could just about manage it, if you could live without memory management. A 6502 machine like a BBC even with extra memory probably couldn't because its stack has a maximum length and is stuck at the bottom of the memory.

Re: To some MSDOS was an major leap forward.

There is one version from the 80s called UZI, the home page is here but you have to go to archive.org to get the zip. There's a bit move info on this page and the following two pages.

There is also an MSX-specific port called UZIX and a version which unifies all the different UZI ports called FUZIX, but I couldn't find any ports other than UZI for the successors to the Z80 and UZIX.

I'm sure you can show us all the keyboard layout where it is so much more difficult or impossible to type a dash (minus sign) and a backslash had to be used instead.

Because that's the net change from UNIX to MS-DOS command line syntax, the dash and forward slash got changed to forward slash and backslash.

Re: And there my fellow commentards is THE brexit dividend

Leaving the EU as May envisions means that the UK will pull out the EU Charter of Fundamental Rights which includes some rights which are not in the ECnHR.

May also has the option of rescinding the 1998 HRA which incorporates the ECnHR into British law which means that British courts at every level then won't have to take into account the ECnHR in their rulings. Instead the defendant has to take it all the way to the top in the UK then if that doesn't work appeal to the ECtHR - something which makes justice less accessible.

Re: Redmond's techno ear muffs will set you back $350

Some earphones for a fiver works on everything with a 3.5" jack (admittedly not as much as before thanks to Apple's trailblazing efforts). Just saying.

Re: Similarly...

But Teams is worse... Search is unusable on Teams. Nobody at MS actually it uses their own product otherwise it wouldn't be half as bad as it is.