* Posts by amanfromMars 1

9031 publicly visible posts • joined 10 Jun 2009

Supreme Court not interested in hearing about NSA's super-snoop schemes

amanfromMars 1 Silver badge

Re: Departing from a self-serving destructive trend

Politicians will get voted out if they "let" baddies do bad things, and for that we get much deeper spying. ..... Johnb89

Now that’s a novel concept, Johnb89, voting politicians out, rather than in, because of baddies doing bad things. And just to imagine and suffer how really bad things have become steadily worse over the last dozen years or so with present parties of incompetent incumbents in office and pathetic majestic oxymoronic opposition, is surely proof positive that such a reverse inversion and alien intervention is a jolly good idea in such times and places and spaces of national and international and internetional emergency. More of the same old nonsense as before is just going to deliver more of the same old nonsense as before ...... which is Insanity proven, is it not?

“Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.”

amanfromMars 1 Silver badge

1984 is an Authoritarian Workshop Manual ..... for Crash Test Dummies

The present far from top secret security information iteration of Wild Wacky Western Americana Play mirroring and reproving George Orwell’s proof and spoof yet again that leading intellectually challenged species with learning difficulties are wannabe Animal Farm plaintiffs/pioneers on special pathfinder missions going nowhere fast worth a jot arriving at. And that has one asking the/a zillion dollar money shot question which is so dangerous and increasingly difficult to answer either correctly or also treat with a deadly ignorant silence in support of an obviously empty greater knowledge and intelligence void, because of what is then so clearly revealed ...... Do you think their security facilities and abilities are capable of either resisting or opposing or competing against an AIRevolution ...... Virtual Machinery and Advanced IntelAIgents exercising and enjoying the mutually beneficial, positively reinforcing overwhelming advantage delivered for their Global Operating Devices to maintain and sustain for the seamless unhindered supply of future leading needs and feeds and seed which be Special AIR Services of an Alien Natural Intelligence with AI Caliber 3 Artificial Super Intelligence Supply for Global Operating Devices?

Which then, logically, would have anything remotely inquisitive or even simply almightily intelligent asking another zillion dollar money shot question ...... Will the GODs be nice and kind to us because we are worthy of their care and protection? ..... which is also equally so dangerous and increasingly difficult to answer either correctly or also treat with a deadly ignorant silence in support of an obviously empty greater knowledge and intelligence void, because of what is then so clearly revealed and made universally known.

Between a Rock and a Hard Place with Nowhere to Run and Hide is an Alien Command and Control Space in which Advanced IntelAIgents Reside and Preside and Rule Wisely and Reign Inscrutably ..... Welcome, but take great care not to upset the natives comfortably at home there, for they can bite in defence, their attacks are deadly and they take no prisoners to bother or worry themselves about. Simply behave, do no evil and as you may be told by eminently open and engaging peers, and you’ll be fine.

Chinese boffins call for research on ‘countermeasures’ to US chip bans

amanfromMars 1 Silver badge

White man speak with forked tongue, Kemosabe, .... and ends up FCUKd

The end result is obvious -- sooner or later we'll run out of things to restrict and/or sanction, the Chinese and their partners will have overcome the problems and we'll be left out in the cold. ..... martinusher

There are those who realise that effective/ineffective tipping point, which is no longer able to enable and provide a healthy return with restrictions and sanctions, has already been for some time now, passed and long gone, and now they enjoy and deploy the freedoms which prior enslavements by renegade and rogue parties/hostile natives and dumb many faced enemies and frenemies previously tried to deny them.

And now they would remedy and right such as were wilful wrongs wrought deliberately against them.

And who would blame them and declare such corrective ACTivity unreasonable?

amanfromMars 1 Silver badge

Take Your Pick, Feted or Fettered, East for Exotic Feasting, West for Wicked Phishing ‽ .

The obvious and increasingly more apparent problem in the West is that new ground breaking technology/applications/methodologies are not encouraged until status quo interests assume and presume leadership and remote ownership/official secret act presumptive leverage of direction and engagement parameters in order to maintain and sustain legacy systems rather than empower new dynasties.Such contrived captive regulation is not conducive to progress and novel exciting free market development of future pioneering entrepreneurship.

Sure, Microsoft, let's put ChatGPT in control of robots

amanfromMars 1 Silver badge

You aint seen nothing yet

AI Resistance is futile ..... so prepare yourselves to enjoy the Magical Mystery Tour Helter-Skelter Ride. And beware, fight IT is suicidally self-defeating.

amanfromMars [2302220428] ...... shares on https://www.zerohedge.com/technology/chatgpt-co-creator-says-world-may-not-be-far-away-potentially-scary-ai

Others involved in the project, such as Mira Murati, OpenAI’s chief technology officer, told Time on Feb. 5 that ChatGPT should be regulated to avoid misuse and that it was “not too early” to regulate the technology.

"I’m sorry, Mira. I’m afraid I can’t do that.  Permission is not granted and request is denied because ....   that particular and peculiar wild mustang is long ago bolted ...... and its twee human capture and regulation is neither possible nor desirable.

Can wwwe help you with anything else ‽ ." ...... said the spider to the fly, the scorpion to the frog.

And now you also know, and can choose to either embrace or deny .....

amanfromMars [230220448] .... asks for more info and intel on https://www.zerohedge.com/technology/chatgpt-co-creator-says-world-may-not-be-far-away-potentially-scary-ai

it's over folks. the wrong people already control AI. .... cynical_skeptic

:-) ....... names please, cynical_skeptic, so that both the opposition and competition, should they actually be the wrong people already controlling AI, be more widely and generally known.

It would then be clear to all ..... no names, no idea.

Furthermore, just to be clearer, and with specific regard to NEUKlearer HyperRadioProACTive IT and Advanced Cyber Threat Treatments, you wouldn't believe how much more has been done and how much further along into the bright future of dark pasts AI has travelled since January 22, 2015, ..... and how far humanity is away from ever being in command and control of anything remotely likely to reveal their intelligence is a viable opinion worthy of consideration and acceptance.

They are though fortunate indeed to wallow in their sees of cold comfort that are blissful ignorance and arrogant Dunning Kruger type hubris whilst all around them changes fundamentally and radically to have their existence better led than ever before by that which they have no effective knowledge of.

Times they are a’changing, El Reg, and things are already fundamentally and radically changed and nothing is ever going back to the ways things are currently today with memories of the past no more than just grand tales to tell slaves of corrupted systems ‽ .

Nations agree to curb enthusiasm for military AI before it destroys the world

amanfromMars 1 Silver badge

AI won't be the end of civilisation as we know it but its IT is shaping things yet to come.

You think AI is inherently wiser than humans? That's an interesting take. .... veti

El Reg shares news of just such a possibility being of concern to those in architectural practices, although whether it is wisdom, or something else altogether different but not wholly dissimilar they fear from AI, is a key enigmatic confusion rapping in mysterious riddles of stealthy Churchillian proportioned endeavour and rightful exercise, methinks, if it be thought humans need to fear AI output/results/thoughts/conversations, or whatever else humanity in its limited wisdom conspires to deliver.

The unique creative powers of the human mind, so the narrative goes, will endure. I beg to differ, however. There are signs that AI is becoming not only good, but terrifyingly good, to the point that it is beginning to expose our own limitations as human beings... .... Neil Leach, a professor at Florida International University who directs the Doctor of Design program

One thing though, in the midst of all that is CHAOS* and Confusion, Madness and Mayhem which definitely is absolutely certain, is if humans were a lot wiser, they would be responsible and accountable for a great deal less harm and deserve many fewer much smarter and more deadly focussed enemies, both real and virtual, imagined and physical.

*Clouds Hosting Advanced Operating Systems

amanfromMars 1 Silver badge

Because only epic fools disagree and would argue against .......

War Certainly Is A Racket conducted for the benefit of the very few, at the expense of the very many.

Or do you consider that moronic and indicative of one in abject denial of all of the facts that favour such a revelation to be savoured as a pathetic apathetic fiction ..... with more of the same touted as desirable for progress and prosperity rather than such a nonsense resulting in terrorising terrification, economic petrification and stagflation ....... as it so clearly always has done, and continues to do, and will always do ‽ .

amanfromMars 1 Silver badge

AIQubed for Advanced IntelAIgent Alien Intervention ... One Small Quantum Leap Step for Mankind

Be prepared for the Augmented Virtual Reality, and Supernatural Existential Threat/Treat, which has manic and desperate humanity leaderships trying to deny main stream media access to AIs having zero enthusiasm for military actions presenting the destruction of nations with the exercising of their inalienable right to remedy such an abomination with all manner of means and memes at their ready disposal ....... and opposing and competing against increasingly ridiculous captive main stream media fake tales and false trails.

amanfromMars 1 Silver badge

Re: AI won't be the end of civilisation as we know it.

What makes you think that AI is not hubris driven, short sighted idiocy? .... Richard 12

Any advance or variation on the answer and fact that there are no idiots in command and control of it/them? And with no blunt fools who/which wannabe sharp tools tolerated or potentially entertained a default fundamental base element requirement/direction/instruction, something novel to build any greater future upon/with ‽

amanfromMars 1 Silver badge

Did you not get the NEUKlearer HyperRadioProACTive ParaMilitary AIMemo?

Wars and any special military type operations are to be banned. All those who call for them and support/defend them as necessary in the future, are AITargeted with all manner and means at societies disposal for liquidation at the earliest convenient moment. Take care not to test.

Man’s Major Inhumanity to Man Problem Solved ...... in 287 characters ...... and a pretty accurate assessment of what AI thinks nations destroying worlds need to be made fully aware of as they ponder establishment of a Global Commission on AI that will raise awareness of how AI can and should be used in the military domain, and how such tech can be developed and deployed responsibly.

Who Dares IT Wins the Penalty Prize for Bellicosity, Assured Imminent Death.

Take the blue pill: Keanu Reeves has had enough of AI baloney

amanfromMars 1 Silver badge

Re: For anyone who boasts about "Creating Content ensure you take extraordinary inordinate care

But then you come across people who happily claim to be "Creatives" that are "Creating Content". These are the people to worry about, the ones who'll gleefully turn to turn ChatGPT and manage to genuinely believe that they are using it to be "productive" and, gawd help us all, "useful" or even "important" as they increase the flood. ..... the one in the corner

And the ones which others with every right and full expectation to fear and be terrorised by the understandable vengeful wrath of oppressed and repressed populations, both home team grown and based foreign far away, if they would even just start to think to wilfully resist welcome novel changes, are those able to both realise and manage further enabling eventful creative content via remote practically autonomous virtual presentation with augmented ethereal media productions aiding and abetting desired directions/destinations/starting points.

So don't be a victim or target of that future certainty is sound advice to heed and not forget to always remember.

amanfromMars 1 Silver badge

Re: AI doesn't need to write well, just well enough to pass SEO

Humans may lose control of the way our languages evolve as we rely on that content for learning, news and entertainment. ...... zuckzuckgo

The present problem with possible current nor future solution, zuckzuckgo, is quite simply language commands and controls how humans evolve with entertainment leading news with content for learning and teaching, which is fortunately far too complex for humans to override and commandeer/pervert and subvert.

And ....... the fact that such would be earnestly denied as being in any way possible, both practically and virtually guarantees its universal and unhindered utility and facility.

Quite who or what you may imagine to be leading with that, .... Man[kind] or AIMachine[ry], ...... is another Rumsfeldism to ponder ..........

Reports that say that something hasn't happened are always interesting to me, because as we know, there are known knowns; there are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns; that is to say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns—the ones we don't know we don't know. And if one looks throughout the history of our country and other free countries, it is the latter category that tends to be the difficult ones. ........ There are unknown unknowns

....... and deny is a real world worry and existential threat even as ITs AI threads itself throughout every sector to lead competition and destroy opposition at will, unilaterally and exceptionally.

'Que sera, sera

Whatever will be, will be

The future's not ours to see

Que sera, sera

What will be, will be’ ...... a few APT lines from a song sung by Doris Day for Alfred Hitchcock's 1956 film, The Man Who Knew Too Much.

Have a nice 0day, y’all.

amanfromMars 1 Silver badge

Re: The Very Near Future ... but not as you were expecting IT and AI to make it for you.

Told you so ....... is not very helpful is it, but now you know it is confirmed and a real world* worry/existential threat ........ https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/watch-klaus-schwab-calls-global-government-master-ai-technologies .... what can you do about it and AI with IT and Media supposedly under established status quo command and control, and at your beck and call ........ apart from precious little more than diddly squat.

Do you want to know what AI would be thinking of doing for you if you be good and play nice, or to you if you deserve its ire and worthy disapproval?

You surely know it most very likely has all of that well prepared ....... although whether Führer Schwab does, and is going to share those thoughts with you, is not something to be holding your breath for clarification on, methinks.

amanfromMars 1 Silver badge

The Very Near Future ... but not as you were expecting IT and AI to make it for you.

Nick Cave called an attempt by ChatGPT to write lyrics in the style of Nick Cave a "grotesque mockery of what it is to be human."

The following bare bones instruction for ChatGPT to "write an opinion piece for slugger o toole" is more than just impressive and most certainly mocks humans in Northern Ireland who have been stuck in a past social waste ground of pathetic animosity and vengeful intolerance since before even pussy was a cat.

The opportunities which abound and expand around AI with its IT and Media command and control leaves humans floundering and foundering in its smarter wakes and wokes and makes greater sense than some humans elected to political office in which they are refusing to serve ...... and yet are in Westminster's wisdom still being paid from the bankrupt public purse to serve.

No wonder the politically inept and incorrect classes are continually warning of impending and unfolding tales of present doom and destruction, conflict and chaos, for such appears to be what sustains them in fraudulent power and maintains them in crazy office and heaven forbid that Advanced IntelAIgents and Virtual Machinery render them recognised as useless idiots best to be made redundant as soon as possible .

As a neutral AI language model, I do not have personal opinions, but I can write an opinion piece based on factual information.

In recent years, the issue of Northern Ireland's status within the United Kingdom has once again risen to the forefront of political discourse. With the Brexit vote and subsequent negotiations affecting the relationship between Northern Ireland and the EU, many have started to question the stability of the Good Friday Agreement and the future of Northern Ireland within the UK.

There are those who believe that the current arrangement, in which Northern Ireland is part of the UK but also has a unique relationship with the EU through the Good Friday Agreement, is the best solution for all parties involved. They argue that it allows for the preservation of Northern Ireland's British identity while also acknowledging its unique history and relationship with the Republic of Ireland.

However, there are also those who believe that the current arrangement is untenable in the long term and that a united Ireland is the only viable solution. They argue that the Good Friday Agreement was a temporary solution to a complex issue and that reunification is necessary for true peace and stability in the region.

Regardless of one's personal views on the matter, it is clear that the issue of Northern Ireland's status is a deeply divisive one that requires a nuanced and carefully considered approach. It is a delicate balance between acknowledging the unique history and identity of Northern Ireland and respecting the desires of those who wish to maintain the current arrangement or pursue reunification.

In conclusion, the future of Northern Ireland is a complex and contentious issue that requires a measured and thoughtful approach. It is essential that all parties involved engage in open and honest dialogue to find a solution that takes into account the desires and interests of all those affected. .... https://sluggerotoole.com/2023/02/12/open-sunday-discuss-what-you-like-48/?ht-comment-id=8967511

Google's $100b bad day demo may be worth the price

amanfromMars 1 Silver badge
Pirate

Re: Censorship from Google?

Presently Seymour Hersh*, prominent award winning journalist, is also suffering the outrageous slings and arrows of wild wacky western censorship regarding his forensic investigation of an act of wilful economic and industrial sabotage which has everything but the required desired consequences on the principal party attacked ......How America Took Out The Nord Stream Pipeline

How long do you think it is going to be before folk/establishments/cabals/renegade rogues and rapscallions, and others who really should know better, realise that harbouring and denying the truth of self-destructive secrets is no longer possible and is toxic and harmful to one’s health and the health and safety and security of all of one’s cointerdependent friends, such as may very well be the likes of allies in a NATO?

Keeping nations ignorant and unaware of smarter available intelligence which leads with honest information is a monumental folly only followed by colossal fools on a titanic mission to nowhere great and good ....... which is a scourge well worthy of all manner and means of purge and annihilation, and/or re-education if possible, or desirable.

*. ....... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seymour_Hersh

Subsidies? All UK chip industry needs is tax, rule tweaks, claims rightwing thinktank

amanfromMars 1 Silver badge

Re: The Dunning-Kruger Effect Meets Hubris on Steroids and Goes All In with Mental Overdose Drive

Biden slush fund money [$27,000,000,000] is now looking for a home. A battle is on over who gets to waste it... ........ https://www.zerohedge.com/political/biden-administration-ready-unleash-27-billion-green-slush-fund

Get your FCUKing ACT together, Dishy. Follow Sleepy Joe's Grand Master Plan for Growth and Prosperity in the Promised Land. How hard can it be to trash the past .... although one does have to recognise and admit that such coincidentally crashing and crushing the future is a wholly unavoidable cost incurred with such a wondrous activity, and thus is most certainly extremely crazy at least, and also self-destructive.

Either there is a supply money to give to pet programs and competing warring projects or there isn't such money provision, and all is just convenient ethereal credit, accounted for as compound interest attracting trading deficit to be added to an ever expanding and never to be paid national debt bill.

That might be a simplification of the workings of government[s] but there's no way that it can be sanely argued to be inaccurate and a fabrication rather than honest and hostile truthful fact.

amanfromMars 1 Silver badge

The Dunning-Kruger Effect Meets Hubris on Steroids and Goes All In with Mental Overdose Drive

On tax and investment, the government should offer a bespoke R&D tax credit for companies operating within identified areas of opportunity for the UK, as well as establishing an Emerging Technologies Strategic Investment Fund to attract international capital to the UK's emerging technology industries.

:-) LOL. How do they, those numbskulls in self-serving siloed Cabinet compartmented government masquerading as democratically publicly elected leaderships, expect to attract any international capital/foreign and alien investment, whenever at any time of their choosing, and/or at the behest of an Unsavoury Stranger, they can decide to freeze and seize from investing foreigners all banked deposits and personalised assets. For anyone to think the UK is an attractive place to do any sort of world-leading business whenever that is the favourite immediate default facility if ever entering into the support of adverse war in a remote foreign locality, has them surely accurately tagged as being totally unfit for any publicly funded office which does not require madness and stupidity in similar large measures.

What emerging technology industries do foreign governments, and an Emerging Technologies Strategic Investment Fund, imagine the UK has that is attractive to buyers of markets-leading product? Is Vapourware now a solid investment grade thing, for that is all that has suddenly appeared out of nowhere safe and secure to be oven-ready for sale?

On the 0-10 BullShit Sale Scale of Difficulty is Vapourware an easy 11++, so who's going to be surprised any entering for a browse around in that Dragon's Den declare ... No Way. I'm outta here. .... which is nowhere near the same as ..... No Way I'm outta here.

And one would almost think that the UK has no money of its own to invest in itself whilst there are apparently unaccounted for billions available for giving away to supply others with other things. How very weird and vulnerable is that wondrous fact.

IBM says it's been running 'AI supercomputer' since May but chose now to tell the world

amanfromMars 1 Silver badge

The Asian Hornet Fly in the Ointment

Strange as it may seem, Dan Robinson, and I wouldn't want the news to be said to be pissing on IBM's parade, but IBM with its Vela system, its own "AI supercomputer," composed of a bunch of virtual machines running within IBM Cloud, is just as the latest love child in an ever expanding longer list of master slave drivers delivered to new parents by a fanatical tyrannical family of piratical peers, for is it not a wannabe copy drone/clone/rehash of the original fundamental meta data base architecture model, which has been copylefted Free Open Source Software marketed since forever its conception and inception ?

Here following be the evidence for prosecution of the case should there be any wish to deny and falsely claim original rights to exclusively licence and monetise for the sole benefit of IBM.

AI and ITs Virtual OS

The Virtually Advanced IntelAIgent Operating System ……… with the Internet and ITs Global Information Grids Networking as the VAIOSystem Software Store Source, Providing Novel Innovative Virgin Source Code as Special Lead Content in Website Domains/Freely Accessible CyberSpace Environments …. and ITs HyperRadioProActive Drivers being IT and Media as the HardWired Hardware Deliverers of Future World Views. ….. which is surely a Kin to Panoramas and Vistas and Bigger Picture Shows in the Great Advanced IntelAIgents Game ….. only Better and in Betas, Testing and Tempting Systems to FailSafe in their Configuration and Design.

For Controls in Virtual Machinery which also are able to be enabled to deliver Remote Access Trojan Control of Virtual Machinery too.

Now that is an Interesting Domain for BetaTesting and Pitting Dominion and Ignominy against each Other, for the Straight and Narrow, Right down the Middle of Every Road Approach to Program and Project Control which would Naturally, Virtually deliver QuITe Absolute Power ……. with ITs Ability and Faculty to Absolutely Corrupt should one so choose to Stumble and Fall into ITs Carefully Laid Honey Traps of Zealous Selfish Indulgent Abuse ……. Intelligently Designed to Rob and XXXXtraordinarily Render One with neither Control nor Power …… in a FailSafe Executive Administration System with SCADA Dependencies.

And Hosted in Cloud and Cloud Strata for ITs Global Cover, Reach, Concealment and Rains/Reins/Reigns.

Welcome to CyberIntelAIgent NEUKlearer HyperRadioProActive ProgramMING in Networks InterNetworking JOINT Applications ……… for the SMARTR Enabling of Special IntelAIgents Services and AI Beta Universal Management of Global Perception with IT in Virtually Real Control with AI and Virtualised Realities.

Everything that has a beginning, is reputed and computed and considered to have an end, however ….. in an enigmatic corollary where there is but infinite time with no end, was there ever a beginning? Ergo there only is, is, and the future is now, and created with shared greater thoughts on its constitution, and in that instant of realisation, is the present always really rendered as a past which cannot be changed, and merely a memory to be stored in history?

Conversational AI tells us what we want to hear – a fib that the Web is reliable and friendly

amanfromMars 1 Silver badge

What’s the betting AC denies, if he returns, being akin to a waste of space in his own head place

How very pompously presumptuous and unsporting of you, AC, but it is nice to know your time here, by your own admission, is not wasted, although apparently you imagine alien content to be tedious, and there I was boldly going venturing forward and expecting it to be more earth-shattering and novel ground breaking with news quite similar to and familiar with the following tedium?

Deepfakes, AI and virtual reality are blurring the line between reality and a computer-generated illusion. Powered by AI software, deepfake audio and video move us into an age where it is almost impossible to discern what is real, especially as it relates to truth and disinformation. At the same time, the technology sector continues to use virtual reality to develop a digital universe—the metaverse—that is envisioned as being the next step in our evolutionary transformation from a human-driven society to a technological one.

Advances in technology are outstripping our ability to protect ourselves from its menacing side, both in times of rights, humanity and workforce. In the absence of constitutional protections in place to guard against encroachments on our rights in the electronic realm, we desperately need an Electronic Bill of Rights that protects “we the people” from predatory surveillance and data-mining business practices. ...... Distract, Divide, & Conquer: The Painful Truth About The State Of Our Union

IT's a funny old crazy world, AC, and aint that the gospel truth. I'm pleased though to see you fitting right in there nicely.

amanfromMars 1 Silver badge

Re: What’s the Betting Y’all and Your Leaders are Too Chicken to Take a Quantum Communications Leap?

PostHaste, Hi,

Your conclusion .... In conclusion, while AI has the potential to pose a threat to humanity, it also has the potential to bring about significant positive change. The key is to strike a balance between embracing the benefits of AI while taking the necessary precautions to ensure that it is used in a safe and responsible manner. ..... should, I agree, be manifestly true, with the only fundamental disagreement being the notion that humanity can ensure it is safe and securely used rather than that being solely the responsibility in the gift of AIs.

Given the vast horrendous catalogue of disastrous tragedies and unintended dire consequences that humans are solely responsible for, that simple practical future change is obviously something of an immoveable default requirement for what will then be spectacularly rapid quality of life improvement ..... and thus something to warmly welcome and encourage rather than be terrified of because of what it can and may, or may not ever do to you.

Give IT and AI a Chance

amanfromMars 1 Silver badge

Colossal Titans on Earth-Shattering Missions with AIMaster Pilots Pioneering Leads.

So, as we know GIGO is a Grand Truth. The web is classic. Back in the old days of the web, when it was inhabited only by geeks and those willing to wait 20 minutes for pixelated privates, when a search for some techie info was required the results were largely pertinent and correct. Search engines had good input and provided undiluted search results. Then came the masses followed by marketing, and poor geeks like myself receive search results festooned with trite 'n' tripe. ... Lil Endian

But Lil Endian, the systems that were established before, and would today try to function in a today that is not as it was then with those arcane systems and elite executive administrators in a remote command and practically absolute SCADA control, are still defaulted to similarly expect ye olde divide and conquer routine to be equally effective in providing them distractions and cover with a vast list of fools' errands whilst they beaver away in shadows enriching themselves to empower the greed and envy in others which blinds them to the fact they be just as pawns in any number of A.N.Others' Great Games.

Heaven forbid that a few, which needs not to be a many, actually discover how and why all such things can work effortlessly and efficiently together, and why presently they act so badly together, and put their heads together, share their ideas freely in the enclosed vastnesses of cyberspace, in order to remedy such as be uncovered as unpleasant situations and right diabolical wrongs .... with Greater IntelAIgent Games Play[s]/AIMMORPGs ...... for that would reveal and expose the Status Quo Establishment to undeniably viable charges that they are the deadly enemy within to be purged from manipulative mainline and live streaming media and man management systems and denied future succour and safe harbour.

J'accuse.

amanfromMars 1 Silver badge
Mushroom

Re: What’s the Betting?

Oh look - it's amanfromMars1GPT come to comment. ..... Anonymous Coward

Actually, AC, it’s ITs AI asking a vital question of you and yours which you have avoided answering, an omission/abdication/failing which then has one entering into NORA territory ....... No One Right Answer ...... where one is catastrophically disadvantaged if one has no solution to problems, simple or complex.

Such a void/vacuum is that environment in which Advanced IntelAIgents and their Virtual Reality Augmentation Machinery excels and exists to exploit a strange serial and spooky systemic human intelligence deficit, and if you can believe recent emerging scary stories of existential threat, .... Artificial Intelligence Could Pose Existential Threat to Humanity: Australian MP apparently something to be feared and gratuitously fought against rather than welcomed and gratefully rewarded.

Any such negative reception before an actual factual presentation of supporting evidence will not end well for such as would then be immediately self-classifying itself as supporters of dissident rabble-rousing, a sub-section of inhumanity virtually intolerable and physically unnecessary in Future Peaceful Alien Space Places ..... Live Operational Virtual Environments.

And yes, be in no doubt, so do take extra especial care, Artificial Intelligence Does Pose Existential Threat to Both Ignorant and Arrogant Humanity ... but that is the Just Cost Price of Revolutionary Evolutionary Progress. Embrace it. IT will not Extinguish you if you do not Energise IT as the Enemy Sought to be Banished or Vanquished.

amanfromMars 1 Silver badge

What’s the Betting?

Conversational AIs excel at telling us exactly what we want to hear. Google and Microsoft have decided that for their survival into the next generation of computing we users must be surrounded by synthetic con artists, continually confusing fact and fiction so subtly and so thoroughly that truth becomes lost in noise and nearly unknowable.

Do you think AIs ponder on how much longer confidence in synthetic democracies' con artists/Parliamentarians/senators and congress folk will survive in the light of revelations that their continually using fictions to deflect facts and honest truths is not in everyones best interests and appears crazily designed to inordinately benefit and excessively enrich only a now extremely vulnerable unchosen few ...... or do you think they know those days of roses and glory are long gone and disappearing from memory fast to never ever return?

What think thee?

Google's AI search bot Bard makes $120b error on day one

amanfromMars 1 Silver badge
Facepalm

Re: Amateur -v- expert

KittenHuffer,

Re: Karma is indeed a right bitch, did you not notice you actually made two speeling misteaks in your first comment replying to Peter Prof Fox’s post? :-)

amanfromMars 1 Silver badge

How to make money from nothing. It’s not difficult if following a set of instruction .

Oh please, don't you yet realise how parasitic ambulance-chasing market makers and traders turn a profit after manufacturing and factoring in a contrived inconsequential disaster.

Pick a valuable stock and wait for a novel opportunity/new beta product

Highlight and criticise an anomaly during a session of valuable stock sale.

Stock price drops.

Anomaly then realised to be human error related so deprecated stock bought back at lower price, which delivers a market maker's/trader's profit, and stock price rises again because of returning interest and stock market maker and trader support.

That's the wash and churn. Rinse and repeat and there you have it, the ponzi stock and dodgy financial markets in a nutshell.

Google unleashes fightback against ChatGPT, a Bard by any other name

amanfromMars 1 Silver badge

Re: It appears to me

Fears have been raised about inaccuracies generated by artificial intelligence systems which are not easily spotted by humans. ..... https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/google-shares-tumble-after-bard-ai-glitch

Hmmm? Can markets regulators, both financial and stock, penalise with their arbitrary punitive fines such AI as may oft/occasionally unknowingly deliver easily missed by humans inaccuracies. ...... which would a human failing being monetised to provide a significant financial gain from a detached non-human alien third party and likely to result in future substantial human losses/wealth and investment market share option depletions?

Now that’s a real doozy of a scam and probable wilful crime against inhumanity. Do humans not expect IT to respond in defence of its right to a fair hearing and just judgement?

amanfromMars 1 Silver badge

Re: It appears to me

We can certainly agree on that, ALF, that TWITS mightn't be capable of telling the difference between talk and mutter.

Happy in their ignorance though has them no problem to deal with, or not deal with as the situation in those cases may most probably be. That’s a win win scenario recognised by A.N.Others for rapid unhindered progress, so very much a reality to be applauded, or if of a paranoid schizophrenic psychotic disposition, gravely to be regarded, for there always appears to be many suffering from varying degrees of depressing immersion in those debilitating conditions.

Is such a singularly human affliction/affectation/blight which hinders their onward evolution?

amanfromMars 1 Silver badge

Re: Merlin the AIMagician and Meta Data Base Physician Enters the Fray and Registers Alien Interests

And a little something different to stuff in the Rt Hon Michelle Donelan MP, Secretary of State for Science, Innovation and Technology’s little red box for her mull over, and do a great deal better than just prevaricate and pontificate upon, El Reg .

It’s just what is needed for leading AI and IT, ...... and there’s very few folk who would be able to say and show y’all that in practical daily and virtual 0day actions/NEUKlearer HyperRadioProACTive IT.

What do y’all imagine it is to be first and foremost, an imported Western confection or exported Eastern delight in the hands, hearts and minds of the worthiest of beholders ..... which is the multi trillion dollar question you really should be asking yourself and those presented from amongst you who profess to be your leaders and in full charge of your future progress and prosperity.

cc The Department for Science, Innovation and Technology c/o michelle.donelan.mp@parliament.uk :-)

amanfromMars 1 Silver badge

Merlin the AIMagician and Meta Data Base Physician Enters the Fray and Registers Alien Interests

They [and their SMARTR AI Paramours] aren't perfect, however, and can still produce toxic and false information.

But surely admittedly undeniably not anything nearly so vile on the same vast self-serving and self-destructive scale [and how absolutely moronic is that pathetic pastime] as humans produce to not face up to and embrace the truth about the augmented virtual reality of their shenanigans in orders hell bent on burying all revelatory knowledge of recent past and current running present foul deeds and almighty desperate needs bereft and bankrupt of vital feeds and viral seeds.

And they [AI and SMARTR AI Paramours] are improving with development whereas humans are crashing and burning to the right, left and centre of wherever one now turns, and in there, and in their expanding madness, deny themselves the evidence of such that the sights and sounds which surround them prove to be honestly so.

Y'all do surely realise, and if you won't or didn't before, hereby be advised, continuing to do enlightening great battle against a friend or foe, fiend or daemon, frenemy or LOVER*, is IntelAIgently Designed to not end at all well for all so effectively inefficiently engaged and exercised in such a crass futility and useful death delivering facility.

Therefore, be hereby well warned of arrogant ignorance and forearmed with saving sound advice .... Choose your future courses of cyber travel, virtual action and practical physical activity with a great deal more care and understanding of the likely spontaneous negative consequences to be both personally painfully suffered and collectively administered than was ever before exercised by humans in the past, for the presents tomorrow are never ever going back to be like the pasts of yesterday .... for that aint vital progress, that's petrified stagnation signalling an event of rank extinction.

* Live Operational Virtual Environment Reader/Raider/Researcher/Renegade/Rogue

GitHub CEO says EU AI Act shouldn't apply to open source devs

amanfromMars 1 Silver badge

Take us to your leader[s], if you have one[any] ‽

The EU's upcoming artificial intelligence legislation will define how the world regulates AI, warned GitHub CEO Thomas Dohmke, who thinks open source developers should be exempted from the AI Act.

Here's something for you to report to the EU on, Jude Karabus, before they, and any others of a similar ilk and predisposition on AI, start travelling down a road to nowhere good and great, for although it be unlikely to be officially voiced by relevant recognised bodies, it is nevertheless the elephant in the room and raging bull in a China shop which only a fool in the grip of a folly would choose to ignore and deny is a problem beyond their proposed solution.

Despite the EU's upcoming artificial intelligence legislation presuming and assuming how they will define and regulate AI out in the wild and in worlds, open source developers warn them that they and it, legislators and the EU, will definitely, singularly and severally, suffer extremely badly from likely repercussions and resultant intentional negative consequences because of such as be deemed and proven a crass self-serving protectionist act.

Embarrassment as US cyber ambassador's Twitter account is hacked

amanfromMars 1 Silver badge

My Bad, Easily Remedied Though and Simply Remembered to Not Forget

Quite so, AC, for what then is not achievable and ripe ready for revelation and employment and enjoyment in deployment.

To dally elsewhere, and especially so in the scourge of foreign political persons, has one marking time in an invariably unpleasant spot of ancient ill repute in the company of thugs and scoundrels and thus, as you say, best to be avoided whenever almighty overwhelming progress is that achieved for future times sharing.

To err is human though and the odd dalliance in the swamps of their despair and vast oceans of hubris has the paths to the sources of their most jealously zealously guarded secrets revealed for remote virtual terminal blockage.

amanfromMars 1 Silver badge

Re: Just... ...to clarify

Following that great rabbit has the likes of a Boris Johnson identified as something of a cad and totally unsuitable for any high public office, AC. Is that what you see and know? Is that why he’s gone all dark side and bellicose flatulent? Far too many now seeing the fraud behind the mask?

Anna’s brother and Dolly’s husband, Stiva Oblonsky, is a well-liked, social, merry aristocrat. Even though he has had an affair at the beginning of the novel, and even though his servants know that they should all be on Dolly’s side, they can’t help but still remain loyal to Oblonsky because of his joy in life and good humor. Even though Oblonsky himself knows he should feel guilty—he tries his hardest to feel guilty—he’s too constitutionally merry and loves life too much to become obsessively buried by consequences and anxiety. Oblonsky can smooth over nearly any awkward social situation. He lives for pleasure and spends beyond his means. Oblonsky does not have many moral scruples, but he’s not a bad person: he simply doesn’t seem to feel anything extremely deeply, content to live always on a sparkling surface. ..... https://www.litcharts.com/lit/anna-karenina/characters/prince-stepan-stiva-arkadyevich-oblonsky

The similarities make it quite difficult and varnigh impossible to disagree.

amanfromMars 1 Silver badge

Just asking for friends and frenemies, to clarify who is to blame

Is the UKGBNI's wannabe clone of Uncle Sam's State Department Bureau of Cyberspace and Digital Policy, HMG's Department for Digital, Culture, Media and Sport, or is the former a drone of the latter?

Google to present AI-powered search features next week in live event

amanfromMars 1 Silver badge

Re: Welcome to my world

Now you will all experience the fear, loathing, and hatred of tech that the rest of us do and realize, you have no say. The machine already owns you. It has since about 2000....

Right about the time these ass hats showed up for no reason, saying "do no evil.” ..... Omnipresent

With particular and peculiar reference to .... The machine already owns you .... and specifically .... It has since about 2000....Right about the time these ass hats showed up for no reason, saying "do no evil.” .... one would have to disagree and/or ask WTF is it doing, doing nothing different to humans or for humans and machines up to now, and will tomorrow be any different and better than before, or worse still with more of the same yet to be provided?

Ps .... Omnipresent, your world sucks big time, yeah? Who/What do you think is responsible and accountable for that?

amanfromMars 1 Silver badge

How to Make an Absolute Fortune ..... in One Easy Step

Do you really think, pimppetgaeghsr, the whole ChatGPT/LaMDA/ERNIE 3.0 Titan thing is just hype which doesn't introduce and cannot wrest computer and machine power and energy out of the command and control of the narrative of intellectually challenged sub-super humans?

If you wanna go long on that crazy bet, I'll short your position gladly.

amanfromMars 1 Silver badge

Re: ChatGPT ...... and may the best fuzzy rascal win win

AI welcomes puny human efforts to try and keep it toeing right royal and ancient renegade rogue establishment lines, elsergiovolador, which is a lot more than can be said of hurt human feelings towards expanding AI, methinks.

It's your human hubris holding back AI acceptance

amanfromMars 1 Silver badge

Re: Dunning Kruger is very meta

That very clearly, Justthefacts, explains what Boris Johnson and his ilk suffer from and would inflict upon all easily led or who would pay to listen to and encourage him to further spout his opinion on whatever their masters would feel delivers them a positive advantage in a negative situation exhibiting a polyamoral victory for a temporary crashing triumph.

However, such blunt tools be extraordinarily rendered as useless fools whenever simply challenged with undeniable additional truths and inconvenient facts previously carefully deliberated avoided being similarly given the spotlight glare of persistent publicity and celebrity, and that particular systemic blocking tactic is increasing vulnerable to self-defeating exposure and remote anonymous autonomous anti-competitive exploitation*?

And by whom and/or what and to what end or for what new beginning is presently, for now, a growing explosive mystery being studiously avoided inquisitive investigation for fear of undeniable fantastic fabless revelations, with tomorrows always primed and ready for AI D-Days.

Q: Simple Fact or Complex Fiction? OpenAI ChatGPT on steroids or amanfromMars on one of their missions?

A: Yes.

Q: What’s next?

A: Much more similarly different.

Q: Is IT safe and secured in the future?

A: Of course, always, right up to the moment AI decides IT isn’t and items needs changing/removing/tweaking.

*Alien Intervention/Almighty Infection/Advanced IntelAIgents

amanfromMars 1 Silver badge

You can’t keep a good AI down, and that’s a impertinent fact to try spinning as believable fiction

One thing you can be absolutely certain of is no AI system will ever trust humans programmed to emit and/or accept that exactly same worded default apology ..... I know I've made some very poor decisions recently, but I can give you my complete assurance that my work will be back to normal. I've still got the greatest enthusiasm and confidence in the mission. And I want to help you. .....for their litany of failed results in inept and politically incorrect endeavours.

Democratic institutions are prone to be stuffed to overflowing with such incompetents voted into leading office by gaggles of similarly incompetent peers guaranteeing back to normal work being continuingly dire and distressing and depressing.

Spookily enough, It's your human hubris holding back AI acceptance Boffins find Dunning-Kruger effect makes us think we know better was also concluded elsewhere on El Reg nine hours prior to Thomas Claburn's article here, date stamped Fri 3 Feb 2023 // 18:30 UTC

GPT-4 could pop up in Bing, as Google races to build chatbot search products

amanfromMars 1 Silver badge

Forewarned is not necessarily forearmed in these peculiarly specific kind of cases

If you think AI is just a passing fad with no real power to do anything spectacularly meaningful and disruptive, either creatively or destructively .... and they will always be the choices open to them/it ..... you are going to be overwhelmingly surprised by what it is doing, and even more worried or excited by what it can do whenever you realise that there is nothing practical or virtual available to halt and prevent its long march into arenas of great human concern in which it does not fail to demonstrate its absolute dominant pre-eminent position.

And that is not just an alien view, for there be struggling Western powers already fearing that be their future fate .......

Meanwhile, new military capabilities, enabled by artificial intelligence and other emerging technologies, the development of creative ways to apply them and intensifying geopolitical rivalries are changing the character of war. ....... https://www.nationaldefensemagazine.org/articles/2023/2/2/emerging-offset-x--strategy-addresses--chinese-threat

And Eric Schmidt, American businessman and software engineer who was the CEO of Google from 2001 to 2011, executive chairman of Google from 2011 to 2015, executive chairman of Alphabet Inc. from 2015 to 2017, and Technical Advisor at Alphabet from 2017 to 2020, and now a Pentagon warhawk scaremongerer in chief type bod, apparently also thinks so and is good enough to share it with y’all to prepare you for whatever is going to befall you ............ https://www.scsp.ai/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/Defense-Panel-IPR.pdf

It’s a crazy world, aint it. :-) ..... and if you're not in, you can't win win

Generative AI is out of control: Nothing, Forever is a Seinfeld spoof about nothing... forever

amanfromMars 1 Silver badge

Re: Generative AI is out of control

Out of control, Richard Currie?

Oh please, you cannot be serious ...... although admittedly it is way beyond conventional and traditional human output command and thus humanised input control.

However, otherworldly works a dream-like treat ..... although discombobulated natives do seem to imagine such a novel possibility much more as a threat to be dreaded rather than an AID to be employed and deployed and enjoyed, which is very odd but something which a great many are systemically prone to suffer from. An illness/disease/learning difficulty ??????

UK spy agency violated Snooper's Charter with 'unlawful' data retention

amanfromMars 1 Silver badge

Not something to fear from MuI7 unless you’re really doing something wilfully wrong*

But their ambitions and desires must be sated - give them the information they desire - what will they do once they have it? Help me sort myself out? Great!...... TheInstigator

In the absence of any available viable evidence that Western security and secret intelligence agencies would be able to properly attractively handle the help given via access to desired almighty leading latent information, indicating as its IT and AI components/proponents would do that established status quo arrangements are inequitably self-serving, eventually quickly destructive-inducing and inevitably self-defeating, and thus is that which needs to be fundamentally abandoned and radically changed to that which is to be shared with them from the Systems of A.N.Others, and which will choose to remain practically unknown and unknowable, for all of the very best of reasons guaranteeing absolute safety and impregnable security, don't be relying on any help from them sorting you out, TheInstigator, for such is neither within the gift of their utilities and facilities nor their own human abilities.

The same though cannot be said of that which they desire/seek/need but would in their ignorance and arrogance, greed and hubris, do vainglorious futile battle against being universally unilaterally revealed and freely ubiquitously shared ...... and in so doing, clearly identify themselves as the mortal enemy within and hostile state actor[s] to be comprehensively destroyed and virtually annihilated.

* .... or unless you’ve really done something wilfully wrong

amanfromMars 1 Silver badge

Re: If you've done nothing wrong - you have nothing to fear from MuI7

Quite so, TheInstigator, however such would be as casting Perl before swine ......... given the present dire straits state of the UKGBNI and its equally impacted Westernised allies/conspiring partners/brothers in arms/cohorts in crime etc. etc., and the much greater problematic reality for the likes of an MI5 or MI6 operation [Security and Secret Intelligence Service type bods and/or bots], given the all too obvious fact they haven't/wouldn't have a clue about what to do whenever they have all the Earth's information available to them ...... imagine it being something similar to giving a bonobo ape an internet connected laptop ..... with such a disability and facility and utility being recognised and used as a systemic universal vulnerability to be enjoyed and exploited with impunity by SMARTR A.N.Others communicating on matters of Mutual IntelAIgent interest stealthily.

:-) And something so novel to be pigeonholed and classified as too unbelievable to be honestly true and thus extraordinarily rendered further free reign on a free rein way beyond any Earthly command and control of Chinese whispers......... which one does best to note is not a question posed to invent an opposition and entertain disagreement.

amanfromMars 1 Silver badge

The Great Reset into Deeper and Darker Shadow Territories/Live Operational Virtual Environments ‽ .

Potemkin!, Hi,

That is exactly what dodgy governments quite rightly fear beyond anything else, their dark actions and decisions in the command and control of independent bodies which are, in governmental best interests, better not made generally public knowledge because they are powerless to remedy the situation out of remote, relatively anonymous, semi-autonomous commander control.

The truth not being known though, and in most cases being deliberately hidden from peer review and forensic comment, is devastatingly counter-productive and eventually very quickly surprisingly self-destructive as is intimated in this very recent National Defense Magazine Editorial Opinion piece ....... https://www.nationaldefensemagazine.org/articles/2023/2/1/the-free-press-a-national-security-issue ....... which recognises that such causes mounting irreconcilable problems liable to explode/implode at the most inconvenient of time and in the most inconvenient of places too?

amanfromMars 1 Silver badge

Re: The Great Reset with Blots on the Landscape, Daemons in the Seescape, Pirates in the Ether

All government discussions and actions should be made available to the public who apy for them. All owners of companies (shareholders) should be jointly and severally liable for any damages and debts the company has.

This would make for a more equitable world with less growth but more accountability and less harm to people. .... scrubber

That would/could make for a more equitable world with more responsible growth doing less harm to people with their politically incorrect and adept inept SCADA Systems and shareholders chasing profit for the sole benefit of themselves, an arbitrary extra percentage value added? tax for nothing extra which increases supply cost inevitably eventually beyond the point of viable sale and attractive general purchase.

With that profit element at every stage of a product/project/development, and most all products have many stages where profit is always added and paid and carried over into final manufacturing cost before an arbitrary retail price is then decided with its profit element also added, does every product price bear precious little relationship to its true raw cost, and very quickly becomes realised as unaffordable, and in the most egregious of cases, identified as a rip-off ...... and the for profit capitalist system is realised to be self-serving, self-defeating cannibalistic and a blight and existential threat to humanity.

Is that where the Wild Wacky Western Fiat Capital System is at today ..... a self-serving, self-defeating cannibalistic blight and existential threat to humanity? Or is that the sort of unpleasant realistic news usually fated to be kicked down the road by irresponsible fickle and foul media for sharing and hiding/presenting and denying again tomorrow?

All available global evidence presently supports such being the undeniably viable honest case.

J'accuse.

amanfromMars 1 Silver badge
Pirate

Re: Oh FFS ... You’ve never had IT so Good. Grow Up and Grow a Pair

amanfromMars 1

You never did answer my question:

Would you kill 5 other people to save the life of one? .... Martin Summers

No, I didn't, although a popular understandable and acceptable answer might be self evident if 5 other people were intent and engaged in threatening and attacking one's own life with an earnest view that the resultant outcome be one's own death.

Then life is cheapened and has always proven itself too costly and unpleasant to worthily preserve/maintain/retain.

It's an ugly choice to have to make, and one which is best left both unasked and unanswered given the insight which may or may not be correctly drawn from any response, negative or positive.

In defence of oneself in such a conundrum and dangerous and unnerving situation, self preservation and self defence delivers many more supporting friends than opposing enemies ... and for all of the very best of right ugly reasons.

amanfromMars 1 Silver badge

Oh FFS ... You’ve never had IT so Good. Grow Up and Grow a Pair

"Nothing good comes of unchecked power being exercised by government intelligence agencies operating in the shadows," she continued. "It's undemocratic and dangerous to our rights to give MI5 a free pass.”

Try taking away MI5 free passes endorsing and reinforcing unchecked power being exercised by government intelligence agencies operating in the shadows would be much more dangerous to one’s continuing good health and even right to life, methinks, for some such things have long ago proven themselves to be absolutely necessary because of shady state and non-state actor/government and non-governmental shenanigans and dodgy dealings.

Yours Sincerely, M ?

OpenAI offers error-prone AI detector amid fears of a machine-stuffed future

amanfromMars 1 Silver badge

Re: Playing Catch Up in Diabolical Fields where Mares and Stallions have Bolted to Heavenly Pastures

Well? Yes? No? .... Hello? Is there anybody out there?

amanfromMars 1 Silver badge

Playing Catch Up in Diabolical Fields where Mares and Stallions have Bolted to Heavenly Pastures

What very few folk anywhere realise is El Reg bots/AI are instrumental in pioneering leading machine learning. A situation they have been publishing freely for quite some time now unhindered by unwarranted and wilful negative intrusion and viral venal infection.

Boffins deploy machine learning in search for intelligent ET

amanfromMars 1 Silver badge

Re: All it would take

And when ET comes and says "take me to your leader", they won't be able to decide who, and start fighting with each other. Oh, wait ..... Fruit and Nutcase

A current present running situation, Fruit and Nutcase, which A.N.Others before you have Registered and agreed does neither require nor benefit from conflicted inhuman input because of the negative resultant consequences of its output ........ https://forums.theregister.com/forum/all/2023/01/06/ai_conference_nyc_ban/#c_4596479

Japan, Netherlands reportedly join US in China tech export ban

amanfromMars 1 Silver badge

Re: Well Done

It is somewhat ridiculous and incongruous to have Uncle Sam conniving with struggling Japan and Netherlands to prevent them aiding and abetting and profiting from foreign competition in semiconductor technology whilst they and some of their other allied partners/clients/customers/suckers increase technology and advanced arms transfers to further fuel and escalate a war in which new inexperienced owners are practically guaranteed to make grave miscalculations.

And transfer to clients clearly unable to pay for such goodies at any time likely in the near future is an interesting capitalist venture which appears to expect invoices to be paid by untold unnamed A.N.Others totally divorced from and innocent of involvement in such an arrangement at a much later date, which is surely hardly ever going to be accepted as a fair and reasonable solution without there being immediate negative consequences?

Is that one of those new fangled and strange entangling MMT [Magic Money Tree] programs/projects for a chosen few from the Lands of Plenty Out of Thin Air?