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Re: And the mess that is Android updating
> FWIW, Mel Brooks, who's Jewish, seemed to think that making fun of Nazis was one way to de-fang their evil ideology.
You may be interested in Randy Rainbow who is making fun of another 'evil ideology'.
Re: Agreed, there are enough platforms
> Sure, you can use AOSP, but without a competitive substitute for Google Play Services (including such things as Maps, for which Google actually shelled out actual labor to collect), it's going to be a hard sell.
Nokia went down that route, which is allegedly one of the reasons Microsoft bought the company. The Nokia-X (later sold as Microsoft-X) was Android with Microsoft and Nokia services. This was done by Nokia partly because the Microsoft payment to Nokia of one billion per year was ending and partly because Windows Phone 8 was locked into older SOCs that were no longer competitive (as WP7 was before). Going to Android allowed more modern components to be used giving a better range of performance and pricing for Nokia.
Of course Microsoft killed the product after a few months because it was too popular (it was outselling WP), just as they had killed Symbian, Maemo/Meego, Meltemi, and Asha. They then killed Windows Phone leaving the virtual duopoly that we have today.
So, it is primarily Microsoft that caused the problem that they complained about to the EU.
Re: 'Perhaps MS can assume this role, if they can be trusted with it'
> Windows V3 throw odd errors if you installed it on Digital Research DR-DOS
Search for "AARD code"
You're indestructible, always believe in 'cause you are Go! Microsoft reinvents netbook with US$399 ‘Surface Go’
Re: US$399 “Surface Go” has a ten-inch screen
> Other way around, as Microsoft's product was first by a good few years.
Surface was first released October 2012.
""" Release date Surface: October 26, 2012"
Here's a keyboard/ cover for iPad from 2010:
Logitech Ultrathin Keyboard Cover was released early 2012 (before surface released):
Here is a review of several keyboards and keyboard/covers from mid 2012 (before surface released), some of which cater for portrait mode too. It is about choice.
Re: Obvious questions that will be asked
> Microsoft really doesn't care if you buy one and put Linux on it; you still gave them money in the process.
The whole point of Win10S (which this device has) it that _all_ software purchases will be through the MS store. MS want to make 30% (or so) of all software revenue. They will not get this if Linux is installed. They also won't get the slurp which they want to monetize.
Re: They're clearly copying Apple.
> the ability to run an enormous catalogue of existing Win32 line-of-business applications;
Not when it comes with Win10S. 'Upgrade' to Win10Pro or so may be available but may cost more.
> What is the iPad Pro with its clip-on keyboard and pen(cil) if not a response to market acceptance of the 2-in-1 concept that Microsoft launched with Surface?
Clip-on keyboard/covers were available for iPad for years before Surface 'invented' them. It just happens that they weren't Apple branded but were Logitech or others. Apple seemed happy to let other companies have some revenue too.
> They sure managed to blow Caldera out of the water
Caldera renamed itself 'The SCO Group' (TSG) when it bought the business of collecting Novell's revenues from SCO. They then tried to give _everyone_ "the fits".
Re: Interesting times
> this (development on machines running Windows NT on MIPS) was a conscious decision by them to ensure that NT was portable and platform neutral, and not locked into x86 code.
Originally Cutler started to use the Intel i860XR workstations but this failed. In 1988, when development started, the best x86 was the 80386 at 25MHz*. This was completely inadequate so they moved to MIPS workstations.
* 33MHz in 1989.
Re: Interesting times
>> "After all, OS/2 did TCP/IP long before Windows had a stable IP stack supported by the manufacturer ..."
> For OS/2 2.11, and also later on with Warp 3, I had to get a separate TCP/IP product,
Yes, it was a separate product, but that does not contradict the person you are replying to. It was available and supported by the manufacturer of the OS.
"""The Extended Edition of 1.2 introduced TCP/IP and Ethernet support."""
OS/2 1.2 was released in 1989 - 4 years before NT.
> "Sentator, remember that campaign contribution? Here is the list of very specific items we would like on the tariff schedule."
"""Hilton pointed out on his show, "The Next Revolution," that Ross (Wilbur Ross, Commerce Secretary) co-founded a shipping firm, Nautical Bulk Holdings, that ships steel from South Korea, which is one of the countries that has received an exemption from President Trump’s steel tariffs."""
It is all about corruption. Trump is merely the most corrupt.
Re: wireless cables?
>> "individually shielded optical wireless cables"
> Could you fit any more oxymorons into a single phrase?
Optical cables do not use wire, they use glass fibres, therefore 'wireless'.
Of course optical cable could also have [metal] wires included, for example: to carry power*, but they wouldn't be 'wireless'.
* a wire could be added simply to defeat the tariff.
Re: Windows ID IoT
> Anyway, to work around the pay-to-not-get-updated scam, you can simply disconnect all such devices from the internet. That'll show 'em!
IoT works with Azure IoT Hub (only), so disconnecting makes them not work.
Re: Don't forget
> I very much doubt any good will come of his attitude. Except for him, of course.
I would like to think that Mussolini provided a prototype of what "good will come".
> NOKIA! (Yes - they spent a lot of money for precisely nothing. )
You may think so, but it was not just Nokia that was wrecked it was also Symbian Bella, Series 40 (Asha), Maemo/Meego, Tizen and Nokia-X (Android). Without getting those killed by the MS contract (mafia reference) Windows Phone would have had even a smaller market share.
Killing the competition is what Microsoft does.
Linux survives because of the GPL. MS could buy the Linux companies or pay them and kill their distros, but they would just be forked. This is evolution at work, Linux has survived because it is the fittest in the Microsoft created environment.
> They don't always fuck things up. I had the Microsoft C compiler v4.0 and CodeView in the mid 80s and it was genuinely good.
Microsoft had bought those from Lattice.
Re: Two problems... maybe more that haven't come up yet.
> Wall Street is hitting those companies hard.
And those company's lobbyists are bribi^H^H^H^H^H donating to Trump's campaign funds to get this reversed.
Re: Microsoft was regularly using Unix by 1982...
> Add Windows NT to the 'developed outside MS, profits made by MS' list
Actually DEC threatened to sue over Cutler NT and MS settled for an alleged 100million plus keeping Alpha versions and joint promotion of NT and VMS.
Re: Microsoft was regularly using Unix by 1982...
> and tried to steer the products in a direction that met their needs at least as well as the competition.
You are confused. Microsoft succeeded by _buying_ the competition and claiming that they were Microsoft products. They also bought competition in order to kill them, or did so through incompetence. MS-DOS, Xenix, IE, FrontPage, Visual BASIC, MSC, Powerpoint, and many others were bought.
The only reason that Microsoft hasn't been able to kill Linux by buying it is because it can just be forked and continue.
Re: Uptime is not a measure of CPU quality
> I sure hope those Intel servers with 1000 days of uptime are on an isolated network,
Absolutely. Headless and well behind the firewall(s).
> because they are obviously not at all current on patches no matter what OS they are running!
With Linux, unlike Windows, it is only new kernel versions that would require a reboot. Other patches and updates are installed without a reboot*.
* the inode system caters for files being replaced even when they are currently open. The old files (program/library) are still used by the processes that have them open until each is all closed and then that file space is recovered. It is only necessary to restart the updated servers.
Re: Perspective from the small side
> The Intel has an uptime of 5 days (to be fair it often lasts 30).
Some of my client's machines (Intel and AMD) have had runs of over 1,000 days, for example just now:
[root@nzedi00 ~]# uptime
09:53:16 up 1069 days, 54 min, 1 user, load average: 0.17, 0.15, 0.10
[edi@nzedi01 ~]$ uptime
09:54:38 up 848 days, 2:00, 1 user, load average: 0.09, 0.04, 0.01
Re: Why should ARM Holdings help?
> the whole premise driving ARM server CPUs is that they'd be a lot cheaper than x86 CPUs
No. The whole premise for using ARM server CPUs is that the savings in electricity costs will be greater than the cost of replacing all the x86 based hardware. Not only will the CPUs use less watts per MIPS but most CPU cores can be shut down to use zero watts when load reduces.
> First time I've heard about an application for the elusive 80186
I still have a BBC Master 512 here which has:
"""A co-processor board. This had an Intel 80186 processor (running at 10MHz) along with 512 kilobytes of RAM memory"""
In the late 80s I used ISA bus SCSI Caching controllers which had a 80188 and (I think) 512Kb RAM.
> I find it silly these days that we only have two options, either android or iphone.
It was Microsoft that killed WebOS (by waving WindowsOnARM/RT at their 'loyalty' discount), Symbian, Asha, Meltemi, Maemo/Meego, Nokia-X (Android) and Windows Phone (by incompetence).
BlackBerry was mainly enterprise and it was Microsoft that leaned on those sites to get WP into them.
> And although ARM versions of Win10 can run Win32 software under emulation
It will only run 32bit software, not the 64bit version you are running on your desktop. Many developers have gone 64bit only in the last decade or so. Also you probably don't want to pay desktop prices for software running on your phone.
> I'm sure it could have been a contender at the cheaper end,
Microsoft never worked out what their target market was. They claimed it was corporates then loaded up the phones with XBox, Zune and social media like it was a Kin. They claimed they were targeting iPhone yet were low-end with WP7.
The phones only sold when they were remaindered or otherwise selling below cost - which is why Nokia phone division never made a profit with them in spite of being given $1 billion a year.
> but Google should not have recorded it.
It was unintentional and was unlikely to have recorded _any_ payload data that could be understood.
Your link fails, a better one is;
> most websites have a google tracker watching you.
They may be attempting to watch me, but that fails because I have NoScript, RequestPolicy and others.
Re: Embrace Extend Extinguish
> I don't recall a hew and cry from the Linux userbase to get rid of X windows
X-windows is a networking layer which is nowadays seldom used over a network. Wayland is a project that will remove that overhead to provide faster graphics and, especially, lower resource usage for smaller devices. The userbase _is_ asking for these benefits for gaming and mobile devices. Wayland won't get rid of X-windows at all, it will just be another option with compatibility.
> having one ring to rule them all (SystemD) is just a bad idea.
Init and some others have not gone away.
> There are a lot of things going on in Linux today that I don't like and think are pointless
That is OK, These are just more choices. The way Linux works is that additional choices don't remove previous mechanisms. There is no equivalent of 'Windows 7 UI being killed'. If you don't like Unity or Gnome 3 then you can still use whatever you prefer.
Re: Ah the sweet smell of corporate hypocrisy ...
> Im sure they could have used a version of Windows,
They tried that with Windows 8 IoT and Windows 10 IoT. It seems to be a complete failure. So, no, they couldn't use Windows.
Re: Who Cares?
> What I'm hoping will happen is the manufacturers/OSS community anticipate this too, and are working on an open source equivalent of the "Play store" for Android,
"""F-Droid is both a repository of verified free software Android apps as well as a whole “app store kit”, providing all the tools needed to setup and run an app store."""
Re: Call me a cynic....
> It seems only Amazon has a drop in replacement for Play Services
Microsoft/Nokia - for their Android X
Re: Are you still here?
> Android has a bit of it with JVM
Android never had JVM. It had Dalvik and now has ART.
> the ordinary Mac user is likely to have to buy new copies of some software
Existing machines won't stop working, nor will their CPUs change the instruction sets they use.
Re: Time for Twitter to bring down the ban hammer on the Trump
> he certainly doesn't have much of a filter between what he thinks and what he says...
He certainly doesn't have much of a filter between what he sees on Fox and what he says...
Re: @Pascal Monett -- "Can you still be President if you're in the pen?"
> The second one is "remove from office"
IMHO that would be an even worse situation. Pence not only thinks that The Rapture is coming soon but will try to ensure that it will - with . Trump is merely a corrupt criminal liar, Pence is insane.
> I'm still waiting for a blade chassis (with RMM) that I can slip a dozen into.
That is what the Compute module is for.
When IBM added Windows 3.x to OS/2 it finally solved the problem of whether to develop for Windows or OS/2 Presentation Manager. The answer was Windows because it would then run on both.
Now the answer could be 'Linux' because it will run on both. All that is needed is an X server, or just develop web apps with the server on Linux or WSL.
> That's not where this is going. Microsoft are making it unnecessary to run the Linux kernel, which is quite the opposite.
Of course, if people make good use of WSL they may find that it is the Windows kernel that is made unnecessary.
Re: What's in it for distros?
> I seriously don't understand what the appeal of having distros in the Microsoft Store is (to anybody who isn't Microsoft).
At least it would be _someone_ adding stuff into Microsoft Store.
> Isn't that a legacy command line tool for *Nix systems, etc?
It is scriptable, and thus can be made automatic, so one doesn't have to frig around in a GUI everytime.
> some real "developer" tossers out there who STILL lock their license keys to IP address.
I wondered how that could possibly work. A home computer on a dial up modem or ADSL, for example, could get a completely different IP address from their ISP every time they connect. With a network it is trivial to change IP address and several machines could have the same address as long as they don't try to communicate.
The answer seems to be that they _don't_ lock the licence to the computer's IP, it is the licence _server's_ IP that is locked to the licence. The server can control how many machines are using the software.
"""The license key delivered to you must be converted to a permanent key that is locked to the IP address of the computer that runs the DialOut/EZ License Manager."""
So the license server should have a fixed IP, or even a reserved IP on the DHCP server, but the clients running to software may not need to have the same IP each time.
I did have some software that was licensed to the network card MAC address. Did they not know about ifconfig ?
Re: Oh dear
> Very poor practice to rely on static IPs
I was at a meeting with one of my client's network consultant. He was adamant that using DHCP (with reserved IP addresses) was 'best practice'. I disabused him of that idea - forcefully. The client had a workshop with several CNC lathes and flat-beds, each with a separate desktop computer where the designs were created and loaded to the lathe. I had provided each pair with a separate switch and fixed IPs. This catered for several failure modes in the network that using DHCP did not. It allowed the revenue earning to continue by catering for keeping the lathes and flat-beds running regardless. And, yes, later there was a power failure after which the servers did not restart.
The use of static IPs or not is not a 'one size fits all' situation.
> at least use DHCP giving out reserved IP addresses based on MAC address.
While that may solve some problems it leads to others. For example a failed network card cannot just be swapped and everything carries on as normal, it is no longer just a hardware problem.
Re: Fucking idiots
> Surely, a better decision would have been to get her to buy her own Apple device?
No, she would have wound up with the pink one.
> Spreadsheets are rarely *that* complex, and if they are, ..
If they are then it is the _wrong_ tool for the job.
> Says an AC. Troll or astroturfer ?
Most likely it was RICHTO/TheVogon yet again.
> the brake hydraulics proper couldn't care less, they just keep working.
And the hydraulics are dual circuit so if one fails you still have brakes on two front wheels and one rear. And if that fails too, there is still the hand brake which (on my car) is cable operated.
Re: "Fully electric"..."Emissions free"
> What they said (given where most electricity actually comes from) is flat out bu***hit.
"""Flight tests have been taking place in New Zealand"""
In the South Island, where this is being flown, almost all electricity is hydro. Thus they are perfectly correct. How it operates in your country may depend on how archaic your electricity system is.
Re: Not again!
> think that the Wrights invented the aeroplane,
They did have the patent on ailerons. This held back aircraft development for a few years.
You get the same effect with "Lindbergh was the first to fly the Atlantic" - he was around 57th.
Re: I'm not an aviation engineer...
> if this is supposed to be a city-based air taxi why was the video flying over mountains and valleys;
During development they don't want it falling on cars and pedestrians. The odd goat they can deal with.
Re: Sounds familiar
> why do SO many celebs fall for this obvious bullcrap?
Because they are _paid_. It is a sponsorship deal just like dozens of commercial products.
The primary reason that victims fall for Scientology is that they are failures and this cult shows them that their failure is NOT THEIR FAULT. It is the fault of 'invisible Thetans' and this can be 'cleared' (along with their bank account). 'Sponsoring' successful celebrities and inventing stories that they were failures until they found Scientology is great marketing.
It is _all_ about the money.
> it seems that Elron actually BELIEVED his own B.S.
I don't know why you would think that. If the story that Dianetics was based on a book that he found is true, and it is certainly true that the rest of Scientology is based on his crap SciFi, then what he believed was that lots of money and teenage girls were his reward.