* Posts by Alex

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Activist coders aim to deafen Phorm with white noise

Alex
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Please amend the article

the line

"Phorm has signed deals with BT, Virgin Media and TalkTalk to deliver targeted ads based on a user's surfing habits. "

it should read

"Phorm has signed a 'memorandum of understanding' with BT, Virgin Media and TalkTalk to investigate the feasibility of delivering targeted ads based on intercepting, modifying and then categorizing user's surfing habits, the deployment of the Webwise platform is currently under review, BT's 'opt-in only' trials have still failed to materialize despite being scheduled for March"

I thank you.

Can't decide how to vote? Publicwhip.org will tell you

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Joke

surely if they could just...

..profile my internet connection they could just harvest my vote phorme?

then neighborhoods could watch pretty little graphs showing the political leanings of each block, hey!

BLOCK WAR!!!

American cable giant joins data pimping club

Alex

"the norm"

The norm? what a load of bollocks!

how could a precedent be considered set when clearly even the UK Home Office has stated that "the norm" MUST be Opt-In only!

PARASITES!

STAMP ON THEM!

SMS costs more than using Hubble Space Telescope

Alex
Paris Hilton

how do you price data?

no, but really, say I had a CAT5 lead running between two computers, how does one price up a pattern of 1's and 0's??

Obviously there is infrastructure costs but after the initial investment its only down to maintenance & running costs.

I'm inclined to think that this 'data pricing' is a load of old hoopla

the emperor has no clothes!!!

How ComScore can track your mouse clicks

Alex
Stop

the world is sleepwalking in to a survelliance society

welcome to the nightmare!

Rogue MP3 Trojan streaks across P2P networks

Alex
Joke

...serves ads??

I thought Phorm Inc had been a tad quiet :D

ISP reporting network to pierce bandwidth smokescreens

Alex
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good one sam

keep up the good work and you could count me in!

Phorm in phormulaic logo phorm storm

Alex
Flame

true to phorm

Well it appears K*nt's company are setting a 'Gold Standard' in breaches of trust, morals & decent business practice. but then parasites like K*nt have been selling iron pyrite since gold rushes began!

If I was a designer in Sheffield I'd be undertaking a re branding exercise and stinging K*nt & co for the costs & dephormation of your business name!

Japanese council worker in 750k smut site pornathon

Alex
Joke

Health & Safety - now wash your hands

no wonder its customary to bow rather than shake!

Legal blow to secret government lobbying

Alex
Black Helicopters

if only there was a way that...

...you could gather all of a ministers internet activity, then pass it on to a tabloid or two, I'm sure there must be company's out there that could see the whole of the internet? There's bound to be the odd 'leak' here and there, after all, no systems infallible!

then we'd have full transparency, perhaps there could be some lobbying arranged??

...oh there already is??

Virgin Media distances itself from Phorm 'adoption' claims

Alex
Coat

its not spyware, its adware...

"...we only want to advertise, not spy on you, well yes we can see the whole internet, but, you know, you can trust us, after all, the big three have all agreed to use our spy *cough* antiphishing systems, well you know, signed up, erm, well looked at it, but they will use it, come on, you can trust us, don't worry you'll automatically be enroled, its so easy for you, you don't need to do anything, well err, no its always been opt in, and of course we would obtain consent, erm, except for those two trials, but erm, stop shorting our shares, agh, read our financial report, its all true, honest, you can trust us, we are really trustworthy, we, erm, welcome you to investigate our systems, no not that closely! oh, erm"

good night K*nt, don't forget to turn off the light.

Yahoo! pimping malware from banner ads

Alex
Coat

oh

BTyahoo!

??

malware?

microsoft?

phorm?

gah!

Spy regs used against dogs, litterbugs

Alex
Joke

Borough Councils, Microsoft, BTyahoo & Phorm?

"it looks as though you are taking your dog for a walk, would you like to"

"buy a plastic bag"

"meet others interested in dogs"

"see all results in dogging"

* all your feces are belongs to us"

Alex
Alert

plastic bags

the ones that get me are the folk who bag it then leave it!!!

Anti-Spyware Coalition probes data pimping

Alex
Black Helicopters

"Inphormed consent"

oh to be a fly on the wall I wonder if they will make their minutes available?

my guess is that they are most likely to eventually all roll over and allow the cookies but add a new category which is something like "ISP Issued Tracking Cookies" and when you click on the description it will have the verbatim PR double speak which announces that this is all for your benefit, move along, nothing to see here. Of course in return the makers of these tools will be offered a preferential OIX service which causes their ads to miraculously appear should you ever search for spyware/adware/malware.

The chances of the "anti-spyware coalition" actually having the morals, ethics and balls to get together and say "phuck off, this is not only spyware but it opens the door to adverts being delivered via an ISP push"

...does it piss you off when your watching TV and there is a break every four minutes?

...does it piss you off the the TV adverts are all delivered to your living room far louder and garishly and without caching your viewing (PVR) there's no way to avoid them?

well if this goes ahead within a very short period you can expect to have ads injected as "your page is loading". No fast forward, no PVR, just your on personalized adverting stream which you are funding with every click.

so the question is:

Is the "Anti-Spyware Coalition" an ethical group of businesses which can see further than the promise of a buck, or, is this just a set up for a PR stunt?

Alex
Black Helicopters

New Web business model : No.74

I've seen the future, I know what the most clicked ad will be!

Ladies and gentleman, I give you:

The Shite Free ISP

- Are you sick of your adjacked Internet connection?

- Do you find it frustrating that a simple search on the internet is now more like playing "hunt the article" in a thick glossy magazine?

- Are you fed up with having your clickstream traded without seeing a penny?

welcome to the "Shite Free ISP" Model

Here we offer secure VPN access to our centrally hosted servers, sited on the backbone of the internet, *just like in the good old days* but with built in ad-blocking at source from our "to the second" updated ad-serving lists.

Also within our package you have the option, in conjunction with the worlds largest and most popular search engine, to record your clickstream and then trade your browsing history, enabling you to make money on every click.

Block unwanted adjacking and trade your clickstream, welcome to the world of the Shite free ISP, making privacy a reality!

(all rights reserved, copyright oldghosts (c) 2008)

anyone interested in making this happen? I bought www.mywebusage.com perhaps we could start up a clickstream trading floor, this would also 'monetize' individuals private web usage and clickstream making any unauthorised harvesting thieft! oh hang on, it already is!! gah!

Data pimping catches ISP on the hop

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Alert

BT's intended trial...

seems to be slipping further and further away now, I wonder if the fact that they were planning on 'inviting' 10,000 to experience having their data pimped has seemed like a negative option now that over 12,000 have independently petitioned the government with out a forced redirect of their browser to

http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/ispphorm/

(sign it if you haven't already!)

**** STOP THE PRESS ****

http://www.openrightsgroup.org/2008/04/23/fipr-calls-on-home-office-to-withdraw-misleading-advice-on-phorm/

that is, as they say, MINT.

DO. NOT. WANT.

HANDS OFF MY LAYER 7!

Alex
Black Helicopters

one more thing...

they say that when America sneezes the world catches a cold, well it appears that the ISA's in the dear old US of A has a particularly nasty virus...

...now one thing the US does have is lawyers, lots of them, lets hope that they manage to set a precedent for protecting the privacy of everyone rather than profits for the ISP's.

If that happens, and the general public are able to (financially) hit back at their unscrupulous Internet Service Providers then the killing fields over here could see the bloated hulk that is BT further broken up and possibly even brought back under public control.

VIVA LA PRIVACY REVOLUTION!

There's a war on, its your life they are selling, fight for it.

Alex

"industry standard"

It appears that (moral) standards within the industry are being lowered due to incompetence at board level.

Its an IT marketer/salesman's wet dream, offer a board the chance to make loads of money using their existing kit with little to no effort and there's no danger of being asked any difficult questions as the board haven't a clue how their systems actually work or what the legal issues could be!

Driven by a greed for big easy profits and unwilling to appear stupid by asking questions they fear they should know the answer to has lead them all into bed with a commonly known datamolester!

a word of advice for all you top brass out there: "The only stupid question is the one that isn't asked"

...now let the witch hunting commence!

Google sued for ad fraud

Alex
Joke

"industry standard"

obviously the "universally understood meaning of an input box left blank". means "I am your meat eat me and then sell me"

everyone knows that, its industry standard!

BBC should not pay for fibre, Ofcom tells MPs

Alex
Joke

perhaps...

we could all pay an internet license, that would be GREAT!

BT's secret Phorm trials open door to corporate eavesdropping

Alex

RE: the rise of the thin subscriber

althoughugh perhaps not with Desktopondemand, as their privacy policy reads:

Privacy Policy

We gather two types of information about users: non-personally identifiable and personally identifiable information.

Non-Personally Identifiable Information

We may collect and aggregate non-personally identifiable information indicating, among other things, which pages were visited, which hyperlinks were clicked and where you are using our services from. Collecting such information involves the logging of IP addresses, operating system and browser software used by each visitor to our websites and servers. Although this information is not personally identifiable, we can determine from the IP address a visitor's Internet Service Provider and the geographic location of his or her point of connectivity. This is industry standard practice.

The non-personally identifiable information that we collect (with or without the use of Cookies) helps us, among other things, to monitor our internal operations, improve our services, identify the most popular areas of our services and determine the effectiveness of our services and promotional activities. It also helps us make available higher quality and more useful online services by performing statistical analyses of the collective characteristics and behaviour of the users of our services, and by measuring demographics and interests regarding specific areas of these services.

This non-personally identifiable information may be shared with 3rd party suppliers or partners for the purpose of targeted advertising and sponsorship of one or more areas of our services BUT will not be usable by those suppliers or partners to contact you directly or send you unsolicited sales information.

Personally Identifiable Information

All personal information you submit is collected by using pages that are secured and encrypted by industry standard SSL technology.

We do not collect any information that personally identifies you unless you knowingly and willingly provide it. We explicitly ask for information that personally identifies you only where we require you register for and use one of our services.

Please note that personal information may need to be shared with our payment processing provider(s) for verifying and processing payments and for the purpose of preventing fraud. Information may also need to be shared with Legal authorities BUT will only be done so on presentation of a UK court order or to establish or exercise our legal rights or defend against legal claims.

We will not send email or contact you for any purpose other than directly related to our services or your usage thereof. Nor will we ever sell your contact or personal data to a third party .

That said, as we continue to develop our business, we might sell or buy companies or assets. In the event that Desktop On Demand or its parent company (Defuturo Ltd) is acquired or sells some or all of its assets and/or subsidiaries, customer information and data might be one of the transferred assets.

Your personal information can be updated at any time via an online user control panel or by emailing admin@desktopondemand.com

In the event that you should need to opt out of receiving any promotional communication or newsletters you can reply to any of those communications or newsletters, inserting the word 'unsubscribe' in the subject field. If there are any problems with this, please contact support for assistance.

Data Control

All personal data is handled in accordance with the Data Protection Act 1998. We are members of the Data Protection Register. Registration number Z961586X.

Children

The Desktop On Demand website and software are not intended for persons under the age of 18 and we do not knowingly collect personal information from children under 18.

Privacy Issues

If you should have any concerns or issues regarding the privacy of your personal information on Desktop On Demand please email privacy@desktopondemand.com

Changes to this policy

We reserve the right to make changes this privacy policy and any changes will be announced by email and therefore we encourage users to ensure they have valid contact email addresses registered with us at all times.

...good grief!

Alex
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The rise of the Thin Subscriber?

it was bound to happen, BT have done it to themselves,

I wonder how they fancy spying on encrypted keystrokes and mouse movements?

that should bugger their parasitic revenue/privacy grab!!

http://www.portal.itproportal.com/articles/2008/04/21/desktop-demand-concept-looks-quash-privacy-issues/1/

the first of many offerings no doubt!!!

viva la thin!!

ISP typo pimping exposes users to fraudulent web pages

Alex
Joke

only phorm can save you now!

I wonder if its possible to rickroll www.phorm.com??

now that would be funny!

Malodorous Europe gasses UK

Alex

it smells like

eau du paris

:D

BT's 'illegal' 2007 Phorm trial profiled tens of thousands

Alex
Paris Hilton

sell! sell! sell!

from the 13,831,224 shares issued, so that seems to a be a sale of about 0.468% of the total shares in one trade!!

not an insignificant amount?

I wonder who just dumped their share options then!

Alex
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But they did it, why can't we!

*** CAUTION RANT ****

K*nt stating that "google are worse, all the offer is search, email, news, etc, etc, etc" and "ISP's offer services too, after all without them you couldn't connect to the internet"...

RRRRRAAAGGGHH

....well done K*nt, people have the choice to use Google or not, just the same as they have the option to visit their ISP's homepages, BTYahoo for example!! why don't you stick your SPYWARE on the BTYahoo portal? that's a fair comparision, oh but then there's all the overhead of producing content, bandwidth, services, etc

yep your right K*nt, just keep with the "well people use google so why can't I parasitically spy on your web activity then sell it to advertisiers"

....just how did you populate the OIX again K*nt??

Alex

guess who's putting pressure on the ICO

http://www.nma.co.uk/Logon/ResourceBarrier.aspx?RequiredServices=17,|&PipelinedPage=/Articles/37294/ISPA+defends+Phorm+as+ICO+conducts+investigation.html&PipelinedQueryString=liArticleID%3d37294#ContentContinues

well well, its no surprise to find out that it was the ISPA (http://www.ispa.org.uk/)

...I wonder why they think its such a good idea, they do seem to have a bit of sway with the ICO though, perhaps its time to investigate them a little more??

Alex
Dead Vulture

a bit more digging reveals:

*** caution cut & paste (not edited) and ranting ****

(this is taken from the 121 Media INC - Interim Results 29 September 2006)

(available here: http://www.investegate.co.uk/articlePrint.aspx?id=20060929151738P5FE7)

Executive Appointments

The considerable headway we have made in our strategic partnerships with ISPs and the rolling out of 121Media's next generation contextual advertising products and services will lead to a change in 121Media's corporate structure.

In addition, Dave Dorman, former chairman and chief executive officer of AT&T Corporation, was appointed as an adviser in July 2006.

*RANT** Eric Eichmann sights pressing family considerations as reason for leaving. (no mention of Phorm/121media or other such on his current bio here:http://www.rosettastone.com/global/leadership/eric-eichmann/)-(I wonder what happened to that remuneration package of over 150,000 common shares in 121Media at an exercise price of 540 pence per share. These vest over a four year period and must be exercised by 15 June 2016. link: http://www.londonstockexchange.com/LSECWS/IFSPages/MarketNewsPopup.aspx?id=1242357&source=RNS )

The Board believes that significant revenues should flow from this investment in 2007 and that our anticipated strategic partnerships with ISPs will have a materially beneficial impact on our future financial performance.

*RANT** I don't doubt that, still your shareholders must be 'stoked' atm!

Our PageSense technology

We have made outstanding progress towards our goal of establishing 121Media's

PageSense technology as the `gold standard' in contextual online advertising as

well as consumer privacy. The Directors believe that PageSense represents the

future of digital advertising. It allows advertisers to show their messages to

users based on their online behaviour rather than locking the advertising to

fixed content pages. It can rapidly build up profiles rich in lifestyle and

demographic data. In the old world of media this knowledge could only be

extracted from surveys and questionnaires and inevitably only applied to a

small sample of any given audience.

*RANT**** excuse me? excuse me? can you spare five minutes? ...oh sod this for a lark, lets tap their comms!

121Media's technology is innovative because it translates the content of a web

page into elements which form a profile of interests for the user. Using this

profile, the advertising a user sees can be customized to match his interest,

greatly boosting response and increasing the value of the media space. This

genuine creation of value marks a step-change in the advertising economy. It is

a leap forward in sophistication from which we believe shareholders will enjoy

considerable growth in value.

**RANT** it builds a profile of your interests, then sells them, you see what you do, we see, then we sell it, and we make money and all you have to give up is a profile or your interests/opinions/purchases/etc, yeah you don't get anything for it but hey! we get rich!

Our products and services; benefits

We are confident that the sophisticated behavioural targeting of the type PageSense makes possible will lend a new relevance to online advertising,

(vulturepuke icon as this is making me feel sick)

Alex

Kill the head and the body will die

OIX, Phorm's data cash cow is full of...

"Current partners include BT, TalkTalk, and Virgin Media - companies representing approximately 70% of the UK broadband ISP market."

please note the term "CURRENT PARTNERS"

if you dig a little deeper you get to see the foundations of which these cozy little arrangements have been built:

About 121Media

121Media (AIM: OTO) is a technology-driven online marketing services company establishing a new cornerstone for future revenue models and communication strategies. Providing ISPs with precise awareness of all traffic in their pipes, 121Media offers the first turnkey solution for increasing subscriber revenue and lowering marketing and support costs.

121Media’s PageSense technology enables ISPs to increase per-customer income through new dynamic advertising revenue channels; reduce customer churn and expand customer margins from product cross-sell; provide more effective online customer support in real-time and reduce costs of call center and email channels.

Source: 121Media (Posted on 2006/6/2 8:15:29)

http://www.internetadsales.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=7583

...so privacy has always been a key driver here? oh money you say? sorry what was the first bit, never mind, oh a Job, a really big bit of the pie? oh CIO? now your talkin big fella.

this has got to be the best link of the evening though: http://www.oix.com/util/user_privacy/

Not Found

The requested URL /util/user_privacy/ was not found on this server.

Apache/2.2.3 (FH) Server at www.oix.com Port 80

...that just about says it all, oh except for the "web beacons" bit hey K*nt ;)

Alex
Stop

Its all about who you know

well then, what were these "trials" all in aid of then, was it just a 'dry run' could it have just been a harmless 'proof of concept'??

You would say that the stakes would have to be pretty high for a CIO to be prepared to run a set of illegal live tests, especially when the only ones telling you that it would be ok were ether on your payroll, offering you a slice of the pie or baking the thing, so these stakes... ...what were they then?

*cough*

"Phorm has initially populated the OIX with data gathered from BT, Virgin and Carphone Warehouse on users’ internet browsing habits"

Hugo Drayton, CEO Phorm

careless talk and all that eh?

link: http://www.how-do.co.uk/north-west-media-news/north-west-digital-media/phorm-ceo-to-defend-%E2%80%98user-centred-advertising%92-on-tuesday-night-200804142351/

Alex
Black Helicopters

The Blast Radius

the Swindon 01793 exchange was Phormed last summer, at the same time as WSM and Hull, given the "blast radius" I'd say that the Phorm Phowered Sphy-a-thon was injected in to the Kingston RAS.

Now I wonder how many subscribers were intercepted?

But given that BT are pleading ignorance to the actual number of illegal interceptions I think you'll find the only option is to accept the WORST CASE SCENARIO and that ALL KINGSTON RAS subscribers were at best prone to the attempted illegal interception.

Anyone know how many people Kingston RAS serves?

...well there's your number of effected users!

I guess you should ask how many ISP's share the Kingston RAS or if "the way traffic is managed by BT" could have led to non BT subscribers falling foul of this parasitic interception?

BT Retail are indeed served as clients of BT wholesale, some clients are a little more equal than others, some clients have their fingers a little deeper in the exchanges than your average LLU Clients.

Perhaps this is could be a lever for the government to get back some ownership of BT, by decapitating BT Retail from its BT Wholesale/Openreach organs and transplanting the Data Interception Officer's department in to deal with what goes in and out of the network.

It could even be called "The Ministry of Truth", after all there is going to be a CTO looking for a new role soon, I hear he's had experience within this kind of role before!

American ISPs already sharing data with outside ad firms

Alex
Boffin

European Human Rights

no wonder people who are aware of this behavior are appalled, in Europe people actually have a right to be appalled... ...that right is:

ARTICLE 8

1. Everyone has the right to respect for his private and family life, his home and his correspondence.

2. There shall be no interference by a public authority with the exercise of this right except such as is in accordance with the law and is necessary in a democratic society in the interests of national security, public safety or the economic well-being of the country, for the prevention of disorder or crime, for the protection of health or morals, or for the protection of the rights and freedoms of others.

Whats more RIPA codes of practice state that "resultant data acquired

should be treated as product of the interception." so Mr Data 'anonymiser' it appears that your "product" still counts as interception no matter how many random numbers you allocate or 'untraceable' names you give to it!

Furthermore within the UK, The Report of the Interception of Communications Commissioner for 2005-2006 states: "50. It is fundamental to the Constitution of this country that no-one is above the law or is seen to be above the law." (this makes quite interesting reading:http://www.official-documents.gov.uk/document/hc0607/hc03/0315/0315.pdf)

I hope BT, Phorm and their Parasitic Friends all choke.

Funny thing about friends and family, you an choose your friends (read ISP's & their Cronies) but you can't choose your family (read Government).

Alex

@AC: "I think everybody needs to calm down"

and other CONphormISTs.

My Internet Service is not an Advertising Channel

My Internet Service is not an Internet Cafe

My Internet Service is not for Profiling

My Internet Service is not your Product

You have a history of unwanted Invasive & Untrustworthy Practices

You have already carried out illegal leaching tests in clear breach of UK & EU Law

You have already been caught trying to manipulate impartial factual resources to hide the facts

You have over stepped the mark and got caught with your fingers in our pockets

You want to sell my interests? to your potential advertisers? Phay up or Phuck off!

I am not a cash cow for you to milk.

I am not a target market.

My web usage is not for sale.

Alex

use what you like

"we can see the entire internet"

what ever you request from the web hits their profiler, the only way out is via the MAC code to another more ethical ISP.

Alex

Why on earth doesn't...

an ISP stand up and say, pay us £50.00 pcm and we will guarantee that none of your usage is tracked, offer a secure proxy with unlimited up/down speeds?

it's what a sizable chunk of the market are interested in!

they could even refer to themselves as "Internet Service Providers" rather than the more popular modern offering of "Value Added Single Channel Advertising Stream Providers"

pfft

Alex
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el Reg - The mouse that roared

they say if America sneezes then the rest of the world catches a cold, well lets hope that the US and their zelous legal system is geared up to find a cure for what is already looking to be a greed virus infecting the central nervous system of the Internet.

Well done el Reg, keep up the good work!

Information Commissioner: Phorm must be opt-in only

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meanwhile in the other media

http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/leading-articles/leading-article-the-right-to-online-privacy-797150.html

followed by...

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/online-tracking-firm-phorm-sees-losses-double-807818.html

:D

Alex

two wrongs don't make a right

This is astonishing, Phorms current argument about privacy is "well Gmail scans your emails for adverts, so that must be illegal"

http://www.phorm.com/reports/FIPR_Response_7-Apr-2008.pdf

The point that they seem to be missing is that Google are providing a service (email) and that their Terms & Conditions have to be agreed and you have to log in every time you want to use it. Whats more, Google Inc are hardly a company that its worth aligning yourself to if you're trying to assure the public that their personal data won't be identifiable!

Perhaps Phorm should not be "opt in" rather "log in" with a username and password or provide a proxy route should you wish to allow a third party company generate a revenue stream.

Perhaps someone could draw up a list of the "less attractive" but "non-invasive" methods of entering Phorms system. Quite obviously their auto-profiling at an ISP level is wrong and using cookies is easily open to abuse.

Alex

This is all smoke and mirrors

The ICO is still giving the green light, I'm highly skeptical of 80/20's proposed "village hall debate" as this all sounds far too contrived.

Why pray tell, are they all side stepping the illegal trials, do you think?

Actions were taken by individuals during these trials, I don't doubt that approvals were given, blind eyes were turned & job prospectuses were mooted.

Who do you think was working on the BT Phorm project in those giddy live & illegal trials then?

Time to join the dots people...

"Hammers do fall and Heads do roll"

Google and Yahoo! skewer anti-DoubleClick law

Alex
Alien

both hands behind their backs with fingers crossed...

"yes, we can voluntarily regulate ourselves, you have nothing to worry about"

please read:

"all of your activity are belongs to us, truth is lies"

'Patricia Hewitt' donates £6m to charity

Alex
Joke

it could be genuine!

...as she now works at BT, perhaps its come from the Phorm PR Dept!

IPS wants ID card service pilots

Alex
Black Helicopters

Access Denied

"sorry sir, you cannot enter that sector"

"but its the countryside"

"sir you do not have the correct access rights assigned to your profile"

"what do you mean, access rights? what profile?"

"Sir your access to that sector has been withdrawn, our systems have been advised by Big Telecom that you have requested information on unlicensed brewing processes (keyword: home brewing) in order to protect you from the possibility of a potential tax infringement your access rights to this sector have been throttled, have a nice day"

"do you know the way to centerparks?"

FIPR: ICO gives BT 'green light for law breaking' with Phorm

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Stop

Big Telco in activity profile thieft?

I've been thinking about this:

My web browsing, is user generated content, thus it is a product created directly by my activity.

Think of it in the sense of "usage as a business" I'm using the model of a telemarketing company:

A telemarketing company buy their Telephone/Internet Service from Big Telco,

the telemarketing company then build up Profile Data ('target market information' as a result of Telephone/Internet Service activity.

The Big Telco then purchase the Profile Data produced by the telemarketing company. DATA COSTS MONEY. (any marketing company will tell you that)

Big Telco then use the Profile Data in whatever marketing application they have planned as they have bought typically LIMITED USAGE RIGHTS to that data

Big Telco would be unable to carry out their marketing application without buying the data as they wouldn't have the Profile Data.

Now my clickstream belongs to me, its my activity, it is certainly not the automatic property of Big Telco, what the Webwise/Phorm device proposes is the ILLEGAL DATA HARVESTING of my Click Stream thus robbing me of the ability to use or sell that Profile Data else where.

This is a DATA RIGHTS STING, Big Telco appear to be trying to get the jump on the population, to take ownership of a product of peoples activity, infringing on peoples human rights to privacy at the same time.

This is disgusting, this needs to be stopped.

Can this be brought to the European Commission?

it is astonishing, I read the ICO whitewash and couldn't believe what I was reading, what on earth is the Home Office doing green lighting illegal activity?!?

anybody know if this can get stamped on by the EU?

This makes me feel SICK.

DO. NOT. WANT.

BT: 'We did not let anyone down over Phorm... it was not illegal'

Alex

BBC are continuing to cover this...

...although with something of a diluted manner

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7331493.stm

more interesting: http://www.lightbluetouchpaper.org/

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a rose by any other name

Christian names are randomly selected from a potentially infinite number of possibility (if multilingual options are considered).

People are judged upon their actions.

Thanks for the offer of a randomly made up name phorm, good to know that my new name will be linked to a profile of all my online activitys.

DO NOT WANT.

oh and Ms Emma Sanderson, will we be seeing you in court then? an apology would be the most decent solution, but my patience is wearing very thin.

BT and Phorm secretly tracked 18,000 customers in 2006

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One of the 18,000

I was one of the people who was entered into the parasitic trial without consent.

I am utterly appalled that the number of other people who also "wiretapped".

This is a disgusting abuse of trust and faith.

What I find most appalling that despite several emails to and from BT Directors I have still not received an apology, just belated confirmation that a test did take place despite being told at the time that there was no such thing happening.

In the words of the mighty Tony Harrison: "It's an Outrage!"

BT, looks like the sh17 is about to hit the Phan!

DO.

NOT.

WANT.

...looks like we'll be seeing BT + Phorm in the dock then!

MPs pile pressure on ISPs over Phorm

Alex

a small step in the right direction

but I have no faith in EDM's they are just a talking point for MP's and act really as barometer to see what other MP's are thinking about.

I'd love to see BT's response to the request though, I wonder if that will ever get made public?

The Guardian ditches Phorm

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a sensible if belated move by the Guardian

now lets see some sense from BT, etc,

this is parasitic marketing at its most invasive and it, and all its loop holes, need to be cut out as a matter of priority.

good move Guardian, now lets see you report the whole story in the cold light of day?

Parasitic Privacy Infringement?

put simply...

DO. NOT. WANT.

Phorm agrees to independent inspection of data pimping code

Alex

ICO says "Hello Dummies!"

look at this, tell me I'm not seeing things:

"UK consumers wake up to privacy"

link: http://www.ico.gov.uk/upload/documents/pressreleases/2008/information_rights_press_release_final1.pdf

For a copy of the ‘Data Protection Guide for Dummies’ please go to www.ico.gov.uk

Our data protection rights

• An organisation should tell you what it is going to do with your information before you provide any details unless this is obvious

• Your information should only be used for the reason it was collected in the first place (unless you give your consent to your information being used in other ways)

• An organisation should not collect any information which is unnecessary. You only need to provide the basic information which is required to deliver the service required

• Your information should be kept accurate and up to date – if you ask any organisation to make changes to your details, it should do this

• An organisation should not keep your details if they are no longer needed

• An organisation must provide you with copies of all information held on you - if you ask. You can also ask an organisation to stop using your personal information if it is causing you damage or distress or if you wish to stop it being used for marketing purposes.

• An organisation must keep your personal information secure at all times

• An organisation should not transfer your personal details to another country unless adequate data protection arrangements are in place.

and then it goes on to say....

David Smith said: “For any of us to have trust in an organisation we must be confident that our information is held securely and processed in line with data protection rules. If we all regularly start to ask the right questions then organisations will respond to public demand and take the protection of our personal information more seriously. If organisations fail to recognise the importance of data protection they not only risk losing business. They could also face action from the ICO.”

..astonishing!

...so does that mean the snakes are dead??

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