* Posts by DZ-Jay

938 publicly visible posts • joined 23 Apr 2007

Local Spanish press embrace PARIS

DZ-Jay

@Lester Haines

I'm sorry to hear that; a "sobering moment" is never a good thing. Where's that Spanish vino?

-dZ.

DZ-Jay

Article translation

For those who don't read Spanish, below is my own translation.

Enjoy!

-dZ.

"A Very Light Flight"

On 23rd October, a paper airplane constructed in the locality of Los Narros, will launch from Peña Negra to take pictures that will be broadcast in England.

ANA AGUSTIN/AVILA

The next 23rd of October, a paper airplane, constructed in its entirety in the Abulense locality of Los Narros, will take off from Peña Negra, in Piedrahíta, carrying on board sophisticated photography equipment programmed to take instant pictures of our fields every four seconds from the sky.

The plane, which has been christened "Vulture 1", is approximately 1.10 meters long by .50 meters wide, and weighs around 500 grams. The estimated height of flight will be around 20,000 meters.

To get to this altitude, a weather balloon will serve as carrier; though it is of note to mention that the balloon is set to self-destroy after climbing by itself once the airplane is released. Before this, it will also release a box containing more cameras, and some video recording equipment. The released box will descend with the help of a parachute, and a ground crew will follow the plane using a GPS and radio system while another team will follow the falling box with similar equipment. The flight of both pieces is estimated to cover, prior to landing, a 50 Km radius from the peak of Peña Negra.

The English team of The Register (www.theregister.co.uk) through their correspondent Lester Haines, published a few months ago the flight of another weather balloon that had been launched from England; the idea stuck with their readers, and through e-mails and SMS, they convinced The Register to endeavor on a similar project.

The project has been christened with the name PARIS.

The development and assemblage of the airplane has been done completely in the locality of Los Narros, very close to El Barco de Avila; although for technical reasons, some hipobaric tests have been performed in London.

What's expected from this project conceived by Lester Haines, correspondent of The Register in Spain and resident of Los Narros; is to obtain a wide collection of aerial photographs and video clips of the region to offer their readers throughout the entire world. Haines, who specialises in Science topics, lives for the past six years in El Barco de Avila locality and has dedicated countless hours to complete the preparations for this flight. "My intention is to promote the rural areas to prevent their gradual depopulation."

Facebook games maker sued in privacy flap

DZ-Jay

The house of cards comes crumbling down

Just like the "Dot-Com" bomb proved that there was no money to be made by just putting up a web site, these series of scandals are testament that there is no money in the "open and free" model of 'Web 2.0"--except, that is, by being unscrupulous and sneaky with user's personal information.

The whole "the web must remain free" and all these free apps and services that everybody's touting as the egalitarian revolution of communication and social interaction is merely a façade by greedy corporations to capitalize on users' naïvete and make a buck by selling their personal details around.

Sure, it shows that there is a great demand for social and interpersonal interaction from the masses, but we've known this, and it has been the case for ever. The difference now is that, before it was always understood that social clubs and entertainment services cannot be sustained without substantial resources, and that most people are not willing to pay for it. Somehow people willfully ignore this.

-dZ.

Jobs savages 7-inch tablet competition

DZ-Jay

Re: But can I fit an iPad into my pocket?

Are you purposely trolling, or have you really not being paying attention?

Your iPhone/iPod Touch/Android/BlackBerry/etc. fits in your pocket. Your iPad sits on your coffee table, or in your briefcase on the way to the office.

-dZ.

DZ-Jay

Re: Too Legs Good, Four Legs Better!

First, Jobs dissed the flash memory players as having crap battery life and not enough storage for the price. iPods started using flash memory when the technology was perfected enough, or integrated properly enough, to allow for great capacity, lower power consumption, and a lower price.

Second, the arguments that Jobs brought up against 7" tablets seem to be reasonable--as a matter of fact, I thought about the "tweener" argument as soon as I heard the rumours of a forthcoming 7" iPad. This makes your suggestion that they would make money a very big "if".

-dZ.

Jobs dubs Google's 'open' Android speak 'disingenuous'

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Re: Open

FAIL again!

Schmidt is actively muddling the terms by interchanging the context between "open" as in "Open Source" (the philosophy) and "open" as in "Open Systems" (the business model). Remember, Microsoft Windows is a key component of an Open Systems solution, yet there is no source available.

Obviously this confusion works to influence the geeks' perception.

-dZ.

DZ-Jay

Re: Jobs has a point about...

You are somewhat right, but you are missing one thing. You have to understand the difference between the "open" in "Open Source" and "open" in "Open Systems". The former is a philosophy, while the latter is a business model.

"Open Systems" is an industry catch all for a platform which is based on conventions and standards, in which every manufacturer offers only a single piece of the solution. This leaves invariably leaves the end-user as the systems integrator, as Jobs pointed out.

This problem is easily addressed in the "Open Systems" model by some parties fulfilling the need to integrate parts for the end-user. But then this party becomes a vertical integrator, abstracting the choice of the open manufacturers from the client, and in essence you end up with the same "close" system model.

"Open" works for large organizations when they have an IT team able to integrate the parts themselves. However, as Jobs suggested, it doesn't always work like that. If your sole supplier is IBM or Dell, you are not buying "open" anymore, nor taking advantage of the "best out there", but purchasing what IBM or Dell decide to sell you.

What you call "lock down" is just the integrator protecting their interests by ensuring a coherent vision and a unified experience.

Apple eschew this façade completely and embrace the integrator model at once.

-dZ.

Apple to lead fanbois 'Back to the Mac'

DZ-Jay

I can has kitteh nam?

Os X, for the noms!

-dZ.

DZ-Jay

Re: Umm

No, it's "Mac OS X itteh bitte kitteh systehm".

-dZ.

Apple to sell 45m iPads in 2011?

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Re: 21" screen?

>> "White's mole claims the next iPad will sport a 7in screen..."

Why and how? This implies that Apple will either dilute their brand by offering two very similar models (one of which strangely fits too closely between the iPod Touch and the "normal-sized" iPad); or somehow admit that their best selling product so far is designed wrong by a too big a screen, and shrink it in its next version.

The former would be confusing to the typical consumer because the difference in size is minor, compared to iPod Touch to iPod Nano, or iPod Touch to iPad. The latter is extremely unlikely do to the popularity of the current model and the un-Apple-ness of the option.

-dZ.

Ballmer goes to LSE as internal doc calls for radical overhaul of MS

DZ-Jay

Brilliant!

Sir, you win 10 intarnetz today.

-dZ.

Google open sources JPEG assassin

DZ-Jay

Re: Google....

Although I agree with you in that this is a solution to a non-existent problem for the majority of the world, it is a problem in Google's realm.

Perhaps they have realised that hoarding everything from everyone forever may not be as practical as original thought, and that their data centers do have storage capacity limits.

-dZ.

Downloads are not performances, rules US court

DZ-Jay

Re: If that's true then

Did you read and understand my post? It is the intent of the transaction that matters, with the onus on the distributor.

If a radio station broadcasts music for people to listen to, they pay a performance license whether their audience decided to connect their receivers to a tape-deck without speakers or whether they actually listened to the broadcast. The radio is in the business of broadcasting audio performances and therefore pays for this.

If it is the case that nobody is listening to the radio broadcast, only recording it for later playback, then the transaction is not a performance--but the radio station has no way of knowing this a priori, so they are still paying for it. At this point they (perhaps with the "encouragement" of the Federal Communications Commission, RIAA, and their advertisers) would likely need to revise their business model and change their licensing to one of retail, rather than performances.

Do you really not see the analogy with digital music files? If your site "streams" music for live listening, then you pay for a performance license, whether your users are listening or just downloading with the speakers off. If it happens that most of your "listeners" are not actually listening to the broadcast but downloading it, then you are in need of revising your business strategy. And again, some very intricate regulations and agreements come into play that may also affect or precipitate this revision.

-dZ.

DZ-Jay

No common sense around these parts...

People, use your brain: when the court is talking about "streaming = performance", they mean when a person is actually listening to an audio transmission as it is being delivered to their device. It is a common sense and not an esoteric or purely technical definition of streaming.

The same with "download != performance", they mean when the file is transmitted for storage and not actually perceived by the person during transfer.

It doesn't matter whether the button or the function in the application is called "stream" vs. "download". If you are "downloading" a music file and use some sort of mechanism to decode it in transit and play it, then that's streaming.

If you "stream" a music file and it is actually rendered by your computer into an audio signal, then it doesn't matter if you decided to turn down the volume. Just like with a radio, it is broadcasting whether you are listening to it or not. The intent of the function is what counts: the broadcaster intended that transmission to be heard, and therefore requires a performance license.

Geeks, pshaw!

-dZ.

2 out of 3 Android apps use private data 'suspiciously'

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Re: It would be

>> "Android doesn't prevent this kind of thing happening and neither do any of the other smart-phone systems in all likelihood."

Apple does. They do static-analysis code check, as well as testing, on the submitted applications to determine access and transfers and to see if it does what is expected, and nothing suspicious. Applications have been rejected for communicating, say, location information when the application has no real reason to use this information. The license agreement for the App Store includes provisions to prevent such things.

-dZ.

DZ-Jay

No true!

>> "the Apple approval process wouldn't object to that sort of app, as they believe the API asking you for permission is enough"

That is not true at all! The License Agreement specifically says that the App *must* use the information for its intended purposes. So a SatNav app that asks for your location information and uses it to tell you where you are is OK, but if it attempts to "phone home" in order to track you--which was not the explicit intent of the application as per its description--clearly violates the agreement.

There have been numerous cases where applications doing such things have been rejected by Apple (doing static analysis of code can reveal such things) and the developers banned from the App Store altogether for the transgression.

Now, if the application description says "Find out where you are using our SatNav and let us track you to give you better advertising" and the user decided to download it, then that's his problem; there's no violation there.

So, yes, for this particular case, the "walled-garden" and curation provided by Apple is superior to the wild west environment of the Android Marketplace.

-dZ.

Google shocks world with unthreaded Gmail

DZ-Jay

Apple Mail Threading

>> "We would add that with threaded Gmail conversations, it's far to easy to miss an important email as it gets tucked in with countless subsequent messages on the same thread."

I've never used GMail, so I can't compare, but I particularly like how this is handled in the Mac OS X Mail application: When a new message arrives that belongs to an existing thread, the entire thread is bumped up to the top of the list and highlighted in "bold" letters. Consequently, the thread will remain in this state until all new messages inside it have been marked as read.

This calls your attention that there are new messages in that conversation, even if the thread was started a long time ago.

-dZ.

Las Vegas death ray roasts hotel guests

DZ-Jay

Atop a plane?

How about a shark?

-dZ.

DZ-Jay

Ha! ha!

Extra points go to the architect for aiming the death ray onto the pool area! Ha!

-dZ.

Jailbreak hole found in Apple TV firmware

DZ-Jay

Re: $99 is not the buy in price.

Fine, $99.00 + $9.99. Wow, broke my bank.

-dZ.

DZ-Jay

Re: $99 is not the buy in price.

Or, you could just pay $99.00 and use your existing Netflix subscription to view movies normally, with the occasional expense of renting a movie for $5.00 for 48 hours from the iTunes Store, just as some do with their Pay-Per-View On-Demand Cable service.

And you can use the Apple Remote that comes with the AppleTV.

Oh, look at that! The buy in price *is* $99.00 then. No iPod/iPhone or extra purchases needed, but don't let facts interfere with a rabid rant.

-dZ.

Coming soon: Mark Zuckerberg the comic-book hero

DZ-Jay

Gawd!

Books, movies, and now comic books? And you thought Steve Jobs was full of himself. At least he's not constantly telling you how he single-handedly built in his garage Apple and how he designed the iPod himself from the very beginning.

-dZ.

Twitter plugs black-box website vuln

DZ-Jay

Re: Thing is...

It's more than just "sanitation", you also need "canonicalization". When data comes in from external (i.e. untrusted) sources, first you need to interpret it as its "normal" form, and then proceed to sanitise it based on that.

For instance, HTML entities, %hex encoding, ASCII values, Unicode characters, EBCDIC, etc. all need to be translated to the final representation of the data as the application will use it. Only then can you be sure whether you have, say, an angled-bracket or an innocuous letter.

Many a developer has fallen on the trap of assuming that all data will be input in exactly the same format and encoding, and then use this as the source for sanitation. Understanding all the various formats in which your input data may be interpreted and normalising it to a single, final interpretation (i.e. its canonical form), *must* be the first step towards data sanitation.

If at any point the data fails canonicalization by not being reducible to the encoding or format expected by the application, then you know that it's invalid and must be rejected.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canonicalization

-dZ.

Firefox wraps its gums around the iPhone

DZ-Jay

Re: Microsoft Internet Explorer

It's simple, really. Microsoft was abusing their monopoly position in Operating Systems for Personal Computers, which at the time was the de facto standard OS for all personal computers. In fact, most computer manufacturers would not sell you a computer without a Microsoft OS. Purchasing a computer that did not had a Microsoft Operating System on it was impractical, and for some impossible.

What Microsoft was doing was leveraging this power to give themselves an advantage in the web browser market.

By contrast, Apple's iOS is not the de facto standard OS for all smartphones, only for Apple's own devices. Therefore, Apple is only leveraging the power they have over their own devices to maintain control of their entire system.

Microsoft did not design, build, or sold your PC, yet they attempted to control or influence which software was installed on top of the Operating System. This bundling was deemed illegal. Apple on the other hand, designed built and sold your iPhone, therefore they are offering a full product, which they control.

You are free to purchase a non-Apple smartphone, and doing so is fairly easy and commonplace.

-dZ.

DZ-Jay

Re: Opera?

No. It means that, any application that wants to render HTML must use the iOS WebKit framework. Opera Mini does not render HTML, it sends it out to a centralized server for rendering, which returns the fully composited display.

-dZ.

Steve Jobs chops student hack down to size

DZ-Jay

Re: Once upon a time...

There's a big difference here. Steve Jobs' charisma and knack for persuasion are legendary, even from an early age.

Ms. Isaac's requests obviously did not impress either Jobs or Apple's PR department.

-dZ.

Yahoo! 'owns several patents' on Google Instant

DZ-Jay

Re: and so it begins

Google's customers are advertisers, just like Microsoft's customers are OEM and vendors. The end-user was never viewed as the customer by either of them.

-dZ.

DZ-Jay

Re: Title Shmitle

>> "Shashi Seth [...] went on to argue that Google has opted for the bombard-you-with-search-results method solely because it will generate more revenue."

DOH!

Google search index splits with MapReduce

DZ-Jay

Wrong.

If it does not exist on Google, well, it does not exist on Google. It still exists on the World Wide Web, and could still be publicaly accessible, albeit not from Google.

There could be a link to some resource on some page that disallows Google from indexing certain documents, yet still be openly, freely, and publicly available.

The "Web" is not Google, it existed before and outside of it, and so shall it continue.

-dZ.

DZ-Jay

"The whole web"?

Really? The *entire* World Wide Web? Or only the portion indexed by Google? This portion is certainly significant, but not at all exhaustive.

-dZ.

Google Instant sinks raft of search controls

DZ-Jay

Title Shmitle

Is it me, or do most of the changes seem to increase the potential for ad exposure of users?

- "you can no longer change the number of results that appear on a page"

More page views = more impressions.

- "Google has also capped the number of Google Suggest suggestions at five"

Less suggestions, more broad results = more user searches = more impressions.

- "Google has removed the search box that used to appear at the bottom of the page"

Scroll back up = be exposed again to the "Sponsored Links" at the top.

Google Instant – more searches, less thought

DZ-Jay

Re: What's their Angle?

>> Yeah, but what's in it for them?

Ad impressions. There are three things to consider: First, that displaying ever-changing results as you type equates to the user searching multiple times in a row. This exposes him to more ads (each search result is presumably for different search criteria) in a short time.

Second, that the distraction may lead to users not finding what they are looking for--that is, unless Google Instant is really *that* good and actually guesses what it is the user is searching for.

Then third is the placement of the ads themselves. "Sponsored Links" occur at the top of the page, right below the search box. So, while users are typing in their criteria, they are exposed to more advertisements in a prime location.

Now, Google claim that they only charge for a click-through, not ad impressions; but as the article suggests, ad impressions influence the click-through rate and the overall weight of advertisements themselves. This means that, with more impressions, the click-through rate may be higher, therefore earning them more money.

Another possibility not even considered by the article is that Google can eventually change their model to an impression-based on. They could be doing this right now, negotiating with their partners regarding how to best exploit the additional impressions they will surely get.

In short, what's in it for them? More money, of course.

-dZ.

Jobs takes swing at Google over Android activations

DZ-Jay

Re: Question

>> Almost every single iPhone 4 user I've met is trying to sell/dump an iPhone 3. Which implies that the actual number of iPhone users is almost a flat line and not increasing much at all.

That is only implied if the people dumping their iPhone 3 and activating an iPhone 4 are doing so under different names, telephone numbers, and AppleCare login ID (i.e. e-mail address). Otherwise, they would count as a "re-activation", which is not included in the final tally, as Jobs said.

-dZ.

Apple livestreaming heralds Jobs-to-fanboi brain-linking

DZ-Jay

Re: Going backwards

I think the point of streaming the event live, as suggested by the article, is to test the data-center's capabilities and gauge load and demand. Since, presumably, Apple is expected to offer multi-media streaming to their own devices, it makes sense that the test is only for the same.

This puts actually puts more credence to that theory rather than to the competing one, which suggests that it is merely a ploy to cut out the live-bloggers from the mix in an effort to control access to the event and the message.

-dZ.

Apple Magic Trackpad

DZ-Jay

@AC

By the reporter's own admission, "re-inventing old ideas and coming up with something better" is much more than "iteration"; it is old ideas put to novel uses or enhanced with novel methods. Ergo, *innovation*.

-dZ.

DZ-Jay
Headmaster

Innovation?

>> "While it may not be the innovator it likes to think it is, it does have a knack for re-inventing old ideas and coming up with something better."

Isn't that the essence of innovation? It is very seldom that inventions come from pure ether or thought-stuff. Oxford dictionary defines the word as follows.

in-no-vate

verb [ intrans. ]

make changes in something established, esp. by introducing new methods, ideas, or products.

ORIGIN mid 16th cent.: from Latin innovare, in- "into" + novare "make new".

-dZ.

Paul Allen launches patent broadside on world+dog

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@Lou Gosselin

I read it, and although I can say it is explicit and not too hard to understand (sorry, I didn't think it was incoherent), it is extremely broad.

That particular patent seems to cover *any* search feature that includes some sort of recommendations engine based on external user input.

It describes some examples which seem too broad and generic. For instance, one user finds an interesting site and rates it, then when a second user searches for web sites, depending on the categorization of his search criteria, he is presented with recommendations correlated from the other user.

Obviously this applies to most all current web search implementations, hence the inclusion in the complaint of Netflix, Google, Apple, and most other web application giants (sans Microsoft, of course).

It is up to the court to determine if this patent describes an obvious device or a practical invention. It does include specific formulaes for rating and correlating interest, but those would too narrow to apply to the implementations of Netflix, Google, Apple, et al.

-dZ.

Drunken employee pops cap in server

DZ-Jay

Re: Lungs

No, the lungs would be akin to the power supply: they oxygenate the blood, which is the means that the body uses to feed--and thus, power--the cells of muscle tissue.

The memory would be the gray matter, while the CPU the frontal cortex.

I'll stop now, sorry.

-dZ.

Microsoft gets Speedos in a twist over half-naked 'Meter Maids'

DZ-Jay

Re: objectified women

I agree that this type of thing objectifies women.

I further agree with the rest of the bunch here and suggest that--perhaps--that's not a bad thing at all.

The two are not mutually exclusive, you see.

-dZ.

Apple kills Jailbreakme Mac bug

DZ-Jay

Not quite

There was no exploit for OS X, yet it was patched in two weeks. It was just a critical bug, not many of those are left outstanding for long in Apple's software.

-dZ.

Intel chief: Obama (still) driving US off cliff

DZ-Jay

Anonymous Cowards

I love the way you say "you guys" and clump everyone into a single stereotype.

-dZ.

iPad hits Asus Eee PC sales

DZ-Jay

Re: No sympathy

Although I agree with your sentiments, keep in mind that the reason Asus kept making successive models bigger, was because nobody wanted the darn things. They had a niche product, which carved up an extremely small niche.

They discovered that the majority of people didn't really want small, barely usable netbooks, but cheap laptops. However, it eventually turned out that what people really wanted was a small, affordable device with the utility of netbooks and the capabilities and usability of laptops combined--enter the iPad.

-dZ.

Google seeks UK privacy lobbyist

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@Trevor_Pott

First of all, lets consider that we are talking not about *controversy*, but *legal challenges*. It's a fine but important distinction.

Then, think about human technological progress throughout the centuries, or maybe even think about the last few decades and name any other new service that opened up to legal challenges (not just controversy in its execution, but actually treading on legal gray areas). Sure, there's been a few, such as, say, assisted suicide, abortion, private investigation, cyber-security consultancy; but there have been *plenty* of innovative services that raise no such questions: telephone service, personal computing, shoe shining, electronic commerce, to name a few. All of these have been quite popular.

Google has not encountered legal challenges because it is innovating, but because they *choose* to. Their business model depends on the aggregation and sale of consumer behavioural information, and that particular endeavor is riddled with challenges, both legal and moral.

-dZ.

Microsoft's dynamic languages on forced diet

DZ-Jay

Re: Aren't *all* the languages ms push "interpreted"?

No, not all of them.

>> Which Visual Studio supported languages produce *directly* executable code by default now?

How about C++, still the language for *real* Windows applications and systems programming de rigueur.

-dZ.

Deviant Google Android probes Linux kernel re-entry

DZ-Jay

Re: Another angle on this...

True, they can be stubborn, but it's their kernel, their project, and their community. As with any other human interaction, if you want to participate with a community, you must accept--or at the very least understand and respect--their customs and values.

-dZ.

Apple iPhone app patent claim 'doesn't feel right'

DZ-Jay

Re: *sigh*

As Eponymous Howard suggested, if you read the patent itself (or at least comments from people who actually read it), you'll notice that the patent application's claims are completely orthogonal to the "Where To?" app.

In other words, Apple is not trying to steal anybody's app, and the functionality described in the patent is vastly different than what the app offers.

In one of the *many* illustrations that it offers as examples of various ways in which the interface can relate to the invention, it includes *one* that resembles the "Where To?" app--but it is just presented as an example among many others, and the patent does not claim ownership of this interface, but of the functionality it defines.

The patent does not even attempt to describe a particular interface--that is, the interface itself is not part of the invention being claimed.

Of course, this is not as exciting as attacking Apple for being evil, right?

-dZ.

iPhone 4 satisfaction high, but lower than iPhone 3GS

DZ-Jay

Drop-call rate?

If drop-call rate measures the potential of the network to drop calls, then wouldn't a "poor" drop-call rate be a Good Thing, as in a "low potential to drop calls"?

This is one of those thing like a "negative prognosis" which sound counter-intuitive to the layman.

-dZ.

UK privacy watchdog clears Google Wi-Fi slurp

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@spodula

>> "If you are really scared about people finding your wireless network, than run a wired network. or tell your router not to broadcast its SSID. (This is an option on most modern wireless routers apparently)"

Wow, you really don't know how this works, nor what Google actually did.

Telling your router "not to broadcast its SSID" only sets a flag within the packet header that says "hey, everybody, I'm in no-broadcast mode, so ignore me." That's it! The information is still in the header.

It has already been established that Google was ignoring the broadcast flag and scanning, parsing, and storing *ALL* headers. They even included those headers that had the "secure flag" set too--so even if you told your router to encrypt communications, your MAC address and SSID were *STILL* being captured by Google.

-dZ.

Apple coughs to iPhone 3G IOS 4 upgrade problems

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@Drewc

You are obviously right in that. However, you must admit that the majority of posters in El Reg's comments forum griping and complaining about all the iPhone problems do not even own the phone (as most have admitted) and do so out of mere spite.

*Those haters* gotta hate.

-dZ.

Before the iPad, there was the Newton

DZ-Jay

Why it was killed

When Steve Jobs came back to Apple in 1997, Newton-based devices were one of the first things to go, and quickly. There, of course, are the notions that the company had already invested over $2bn USD on the notorious devices, and that they were just a money hole.

However, this cannot be necessarily the reason for their cancellation, for as this article states, by the second iteration the devices were much more capable and actually selling quite good. Apple was on track to recuperate its investment, yet the product was discontinued nonetheless.

According to some well known Apple people who were there (but whose names escape me at this time), Steve Jobs canceled the product expediently for very personal reasons. You see, the Newton project was spearheaded by Jean-Louis Gasset (and, I believe John Sculley too, at some time), whom was a prominent player in the original drama that found Steve Jobs ousted from his own company back in the Eighties.

-dZ.