* Posts by fajensen

1362 publicly visible posts • joined 18 Jun 2008

Congrats, Meg Whitman, another multi-billion-dollar write-off for the CV: Her web vid upstart Quibi implodes

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Coat

Re: "Our failure was not for lack of trying"

No, no.no.no.and: NO!!

Mark my Words: Ruining the narrative with unwanted data will cause "Growth" to collapse!!!

Business today is all about Flow of Capital. I belive that the unstated business model here always was to flare off $1.75bn dollars (or more if they had got it) as fast as practical with management extracting a few % of the flow in fees, maybe with a sideline in shorting the corporate bonds as an extra incentive.

The "world beating, innovative and revolutionary" Product and Services allegedly offered up by these scams are just the minimalist Stalinist set-piece, wood-and-fabric, scenery required to create The Flow

They can't - yet - just give obscene amounts of money away to their friends (well, the UK Goverment can and does, but, they are somewhat of an exception in the 1'st world).

Ruder and Cruder, but perhaps in their own ways more honest people, used to call these forms of business dealings "Smash and grab", "Busting out the joint", et. cetera.

Has Apple abandoned CUPS, the Linux's world's widely used open-source printing system? Seems so

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Paris Hilton

Re: PDF printing?

Mine. Whenever my wife needs to print.

Due to some wierdness in CUPS on Linux Mint 19, three very similarly-named printer instances show up, of course only one works. The one that does work, is as a rule never the default printer.

This is a network printer. It seems that Something (systemd?) discovers the printer, it then sits there, ready and working, then when it goes to power save mode or something and drops off the network, some half-assed placeholder is left to "represent it" but this is never used again.

I had this problem on my own computer and I eventually managed to fix it but it took several hours af trawling through the nether dungeons of CUPS.

I am sad to say that the *easiest* way to fix it is to do a backup, then a clean reinstall with Linux Mint 20, then restore from the backup! The Windows Way!!

UK tech supply chain in dark over Brexit preparations months ahead of final heave-ho

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Pint

Re: Awww, kids today...

Yup.

Clothes and LP-records were really cheap so we bought lots of those when travelling to the UK.

I also remember the constant strikes, the garbage piled up everywhere never quite collected before the bin-men striked again. Strange hotel food out of tins. And my parents having to arrange a totally different route through France and Germany to get home from our UK vacation because the train or ferry or both, who cares at this point?, were on strike or out of fuel or spares or all of the above!

Whatever. It sure was an Adventure, "the way things were done".

One is rather looking forward to seeing those times once again, I'd say (but only from a safe distance).

Former antivirus baron John McAfee collared, faces extradition to America on tax evasion, securities allegations

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Re: is he still a US citizen ?

He clould have moved to Switzerland and taken the one-time tax payment option of 3 million SCF.

Unis turn to webcam-watching AI to invigilate students taking exams. Of course, it struggles with people of color

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Re: Why use the word racist.

Wouldn't IR illumination work, technically at least?

IBM manager had to make one person redundant from choice of two, still bungled it and got firm done for unfair dismissal

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That is fine, even in Sweden and the UK.

Realistically, you just have to document it. And that you have a process for determining poor performance and that you followed that process that you of course have*. "Perfomance" is relative to the Role or Function of the employee so they need a Job Description and Responsibilities, again In Writing and documentation that the employee has recieved & accepted it.

Proving Poor Performance usually requires that the employer performs at least two different corrective actions together / agreed with the empoyee, like training or moving them to a different role.

IBM didn't do their UK homework and so they got nailed. If they needed a speedy resolution like the yanks probably demanded, them being yanks and all, they should have closed both positions as "no longer required", then hire the other person back for a different role (but doing similar work as before).

*) In Sweden, it is also common that they have not done their homework so they end up buying people out - paying them up to 2 years of wages for signing the off-boarding agreement. Or trying to bully the unwanted out, which then ends up costing the same in compensation and legal fees.

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Pint

Wonder why I always got passed over for promotion?

Of course, you are violation of Corporate Prime Directive #1: "Never make a colleague look bad".

Bosses see this and think "I don't want to be sitting in a project review meeting with that person".

If one must critisise, one must frame it in the form of a trivial analogue adjustment, like: "I believe we have experienced some quality issues. If we increase the coverage of the test suite a bit more we could improve the quality that the customers experience". Instead of: "The code base is a mess, it will take six months to refactor it to something half decent".

With the right framing, Every Problem is just Another Opportunity (for self) - is the way to "work" today (Most "work" is perfomative anyway).

fajensen
Facepalm

Re: I think that I might have also worked for that company

do you want the flight control system written by exactly the 'correct' ethnic diversity of people, or the best people, regardless of ethnicity

Nope, I want it very much to be done by "The Right People"! Even if that takes a bit longer.

"The Best People" have too often, in my experience, been one off: Arseholes (gifted from the competition with the warmest of recommendations), Boss's Cronies, Has-Beens / Never-weres (usually washed in from Academia or Big-4 Conslutting), Useless Power-Pointers and Gladiators (People picking fights over *every* *issue* there is, to prove how Superior Only They are).

NATO's at risk if you go your own Huawei on 5G, US government warns Germany

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Pint

Re: Nazi alert/fascist warning

Such a situation can very easily and very quickly become life threatening.

... Which is why "we", "the masses", "policy makers" and so on, will bitch and moan while putting up with it for as long as humanely possible!

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Pint

Absolutely Not Always. Think a bit more about the situation.

What if the debt can never be collected? What if you can get others to pay for it? What if by borrowing more than anyone else, the growth exponents of your investments will be larger than the competition and culturally you are a fervent believer in the world as a Zero-Sum Game?

The utility of being debt free kinda reverses then!

The USA can (and does) use the debt it assumes to monopolise key ressources like Oil, Intellectual Property, Land, Water, Minerals, Agriculture, Political power, et.cetera. Sure the USD is dropping slowly in value over the years, but, that could from the American perspective be seen as a "Trade Tax" that everyone using USD for transactions must pay. It is not really a problem for the issuer of the USD, they can always issue MORE currency to cover the gap.

Bidding up ressources and talent with printed money, that The Competition must first work hard to aquire, will certainly harm them and favour yourself. Which is Win-Win, USA-Style.

Competiton from China, the EU and the global push for renewable energi (reducing the need for USD to buy Oil with) is eroding the importance of aquiring USD and thus the American power base. So of course the USA is going to fight all of those existential threats tooth-and-nail to keep the shenanigans going. Regardless of who the puppet in the White House is.

Eventually the USA will default like Russia did and since there is nothing anyone can actually do about it, most of the show will go on in the end. Maybe with a different reserve currency or maybe a basket of individual currencies. "They" will cook something up, like always.

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Pint

They are only going to be worth less if there is a real alternative to using USD for trade. There isn't at the moment and won't be for a long while. It is what it is.

One can look up how much the Chinese are sitting on, which amounts to just about 1 Trillion USD (https://ticdata.treasury.gov/Publish/mfh.txt). The national debt of the USA currently amount to about 28 Trillion USD (courtesy of "Wolf Street" https://wolfstreet.com/2020/09/17/who-bought-the-3-3-trillion-piled-on-the-incredibly-spiking-us-national-debt-since-march/).

Between March 2020 and September 2020, the Treasury piled on another 3.3 Trillion up to 27 Trillion, meaning that soaking up Everything that China has amounts to about 2 months of "Business as Usual"!

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Flame

Re: Facts...

Everybody is just waiting for the US to have a functional government after the election.

We should be careful what we wish for, in this case: A more effective, better-looking Evil!?

In My Very Jaded Opinion, "The Problem" that "western leaders" seems to have with Donald Trump is that Trump and his mobbed-up family of cronies, are too uncultivated, straight-up "standover men", for "everybody" to earnestly "sell" whatever new obscenities America comes up with to their supposedly discerning Western electorates!

They *liked* Obama for being such a smoooth, good-looking, polite, mass-murderer, torturer and war-monger! Gave him the Nobel Piece Price too! Never minded that he bugged everyone and took a huge dump all over Nürenberg!!

In a perverted way, I do like the earnesty of the Trump Regime and I like to see that "our leaders" can at least still be embarassed enough to not do something terrible when a terrible person demands it. Maybe a habit can be deloped of not doing it regardless of who is asking?

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Flame

Re: It's a passing phase

Can any of us be sure that chinese kit doesn't have the ability to provide some access?

Nope. We can, however, be pretty sure that it doesn't provide the seamless NSA-access-experience that all of the not-sanctioned western kit does. If it did, those US/UK TLA's wouldn't become so uppity about us "free people" deploying it.

The thing is, since China cannot (at least not for a long while yet) put me on no-flight lists, "Authorization to Action lists" and freeze all of my meagre assets, I just personally feel more secure with us using the Chinese kit. Whether it being Instrumented or Not.

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Facepalm

Re: While I am entirely ... Germany paying it's previously agreed-upon share of GDP on defense.

Threats, Bullying, Sanctions and Wars is sadly all that the USA has to offer the world these sorry days.

It probably comes from them beliving that having won the cold war, they no longer have to offer any more incentives for countries to adopt their "winning world view" rather than that of the USSR. China is still a bit too far away culturally, but, we are making progress, money makes friends :p

Diplomacy from the EU/Merkel- side is obvously concerned with keeping the USA in the Threatening- and Bullying- modes while working something out along the way. Hoping against reason that this will all pass with Donald Trump.

I.M.O, This is nothing new, Donald Trump and his thuggish cronies just made the nature of the USA visible to all, not only to those people unfortunatly living in designated droning or "regime" areas.

fajensen
Coat

Not that old rubbish again. Everybody knows, including China, that: The FED both can and it totally will buy up all of Chinas "big chunk" in about 200 milliseconds with money it can create an infinite amount off whenever the need arises.

Compared to the amount of "assets" the FED already has "under it's management", dumping China's Big Chunk into "The Market" all at once will be like a single drop falling into an olympic size swimming pool.

Not one to be outdone by Microsoft, Apple's cloud fell over too. Unlike Microsoft, it hasn't said what happened

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Shared point of Failure?

Something quite important but accidentially running on some rinky-dink platform that "nobody" controls? Like the dLink debacle: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NTP_server_misuse_and_abuse#D-Link_and_Poul-Henning_Kamp

British Army develops AI shotgun drone with machine vision for indoor use

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FAIL

Re: What could possibly go wrong?

Some professor will happly upload a new AI based on labaratory cats to the thing?

On top of cats by nature diverting themselves with torture and murder, we have those lab-cats also pissed about electrodes in their brains, no shagging and no fighting over shagging!

Xen Project officially ports its hypervisor to Raspberry Pi 4

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Re: Cool points for the developers

Once you have a ... murder, shoal, ... mob ...??? ... of feisty PI's around the house, then you gotta manage them. Hopefully with something like Puppet or CFEngine. That tool will need a server.

Probably one also needs an apt-cache, like apt-cacher-ng. Which, for simplicity, is Another server.

Those would fit neatly into a PI-4, especially when virtualised. In my experience, management tools tend to be quirky and some of them (CFEngine?) are even installed from a shell-script rather than a package, creating "a mess" from the start on a packetized system. This way we can keep the mess in a container.

Brexit travel permits designed to avoid 7,000-lorry jams come January depend on software that won't be finished till April

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Re: Dont worry, the pain

Wonder what the Swiss do,

Besides "Work", you mean?

The main problem with Brexit is that it is entirely based on Faith: The stronger The Faith, the better The Brexit will be. No need to do any work at all, no, we just gotta Believe Harder and Wonders will happen!

If they don't, it's because of someone sorely lacking in Faith and once those impure heretics are rooted out and put in reeducation camps, Brexit will work. Guaranteed!!

Chinese database details 2.4 million influential people, their kids, addresses, and how to press their buttons

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Flame

Re: Liberals

Open liberal democratic states

It's a code phrase. Signals that the authors are "with the team".

Open" means "Global Markets", "Liberal" means "Markets Decide", "Democratic" means "Legitimate" and "States" refers to a Club which follows The Code: "Global Markets Deciding Democratic outcomes is what makes this State Legitimate" - which keeps the colour revolutyions, drones & sactions away. For a while!

The Liberals* are most likely concerned that heathen communist competion will lower the market value and exclusivity of, say, FaceBook's data hoarding and "influencing interface" :).

*)Euro-style, liberals a.k.a. neo-liberals, market-fundamentalists, et cetera.

Take your pick: 'Hack-proof' blockchain-powered padlock defeated by Bluetooth replay attack or 1kg lump hammer

fajensen

Re: Confessions of a bolt cutter

and I couldn't cut through them.

Not even with an angle grinder? These things are portable nowadays.

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Boffin

Re: I've come to believe

Whenever an adjective is used for marketing or in naming a protocol, it's meaining becomes inverted!

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Pint

Re: Sounds familiar

The one problem electronic voting does solve solve is that the losers does not get their fweelings hurt by having their little faces rubbed in tiresome facts like maybe they ran a rubbish candidate or their program was shite or maybe everyone by now just hates their guts and wants them Gone!

Instead they can blame The Russians for their losses and argue endlessly on how they actually won!

Drone firm DJI promises 'local data mode' to fend off US government's mooted ban

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Facepalm

US govt claims to hate State Aid ...

They should look at what happened to the UK, with Thatcher: The Tories had the Insiders bs-ing all the time about Purity towards Outside, all while on the Inside they were happily finagling things, however Impure and Socialist the methods.

Now, a bunch of Outsiders, 3'rd rate flunkies kept away from Important Things for good reasons by the elders, thus ignorant of how things were done, comes into power while totally *believing* the entire bs-fascade of their Saviour Saint and turns the official agit-prop bs into Government Policies ....

Something to look forward to: Being told your child or parent was radicalized by an AI bot into believing a bonkers antisemitic conspiracy theory

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Re: Modern AI machines are like 2yo with enormous knowledge

They don't think. They are just models that can map one hyperspace of data onto another with zero comprehension of what any of it means.

Any two year old can one-shot a chair. Then, because a two year old understands what a "chair" is and what it does, it can easily identify other things that "are not a chair" but can be used as "chair", leaving Modern AI sucking down dust!

Current AI cannot do basic things like that and probaly never will because it is mindless. It hasn't got a world model and nobody understands (yet) how to begin to build something that could have one.

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Terminator

I have some trouble believing in the "Radicalisation Brain-Washing Rays over The Internet", primarily because the prime Ad/Malware-slingers specifially *wants* us to belive that such a thing could exits and that they have it and we should immediately pay them big bucks for it, before the competition does!

I think that the only thing FaceBook, Google, Twitter and so on actually does well is Finding People based on search criteria. That allows all of the worlds cooks, loons and nutters to find each other and form a distributed network of crazy and stupid never seen before!

Three middle-aged Dutch hackers slipped into Donald Trump's Twitter account days before 2016 US election

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Pint

Re: What this means

Maybe The Russians should be running things? They seem to be infinitely capable, with no limitations on manpower and dedication to duty!

Tech ambitions said to lie at heart of Britain’s bonkers crash-and-burn Brexit plan

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Pint

Re: State Aid????

The British Army's 77'th Brigade will no doubt work out a cunning device to make the Brexiteers see enlightenment and blame the EU, the Germans and Angela Merkel for demanding their humiliation by the WTO. Or Something!

The UK won't be a rule taker, it will be a rule maker.

It is clear that the Brexieers have this idea that when Great Britain makes rules, those rules shall not be limited by the borders they also need to have 'Cause Sovrinty' (in practice to have juristiction where the UK rules apply and to keep the darkies out)

I.O.W. The UK wants the EU to follow their rules and they don't want to follow any of the EU's rules -> It is all about Restoring the Empire without doing any of the work!

US ponders tech export ban on SMIC, China's biggest chipmaker

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Re: Red Scare

The US hasn't got much left to sanction.

Except Rocket Engines, Uranium and Titanium. However, being all about "free markets", the USA only sanctions things that hurt their competitors and they do have a big chip on their sholders about the EU.

Digital pregnancy testing sticks turn out to have very analogue internals when it comes to getting results

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Re: Low tech is too old tech

They need to do a Better Job: Push all of the dataprocessing to "The Cloud", make it very complex and power consuming so the data center can suck down all that Green Power so it is not used for anything baneficial and have crap security and be sure to let FaceBook leech the data generated, just in case.

Funny, that: Handy script for wiping directories is capable of wreaking havoc beyond a miscreant's wildest dreams

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Angel

Re: My contribution ...

It's always good to see someone having a shittier day! or Cats!!

Amazon spies on staff, fires them by text for not hitting secretive targets, workers 'feel forced to work through pain, injuries' – report

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I wonder what the "cash in a clear plastic bag" is for. Toilets and vending machines all take credit cards around here and I don't suppose they would have those mechanical coin-op meters to pay for workers to pay for heat and lighting at their work stations?

Zuck says Facebook made an 'operational mistake' in not taking down US militia page mid-protests. TBH the whole social network is a mistake

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Re: Endless Cycle

Eh ... No, I haven't. I don't even know anyone who does.

Former HP CEO and Republican Meg Whitman – who split HP with mixed success – says Donald Trump can't run a business

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IT Angle

Re: @Flock of Kroes not hearing

And then there's Biden's promises that will bankrupt the country... while Hunter profits.

As long as the totally voluntary, with unending bipartisan support, and even public fawning over it, millitary expenditures can continue to grow at a rate of 5%/p.a. it is pretty damn silly to imagine *anything else* that will "bankrupt the country"!

The biggest exponent crushes "the rest", so "the rest" dosen't matter - IT-Angle: O-notation.

Reply-All storm sparked by student smut sees school system shut down Google Classroom for up to a week

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Re: Surely they're using G-Suite Enterprise for Education?

How should they do that?

A company will restrict the selection of "own" devices for you to "buy" to something that their IT management system is familiar with and can operate on.

It will be very clear from the beginning that the user consents that this is a business device and therefore business can do things to it.

In school, one gets almost one implentation of Android per 4 children and a smattering of Apple devices, the Apples (if they are recent) have a fairly decent management interface, some Andoids have something that could work and the rest has something that runs from China.

These devices are 100% their owners property and one cannot legally dick around with them - even assuming one could support the volume of management scriptiing to do this.

It's the usual cheapskating and shortcutting, then whining when something breaks: If they need to control user devices, suitable user devices has to be provided. But that costs money and they don't want to do that, rather they push the costs onto the users but of course then they can't do management because of the explosion in diversity that creates.

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Pint

Re: Not possible?

Don't have to jam anything - just (get telco to) set up a picocell at the place where one want to control cellphone access, create a list of devices allowed access to data services, to be switched on, and so on und zu weiter .... but ... with everything "important" in IT it is never important enough to put in the work or pay someone to do it!

Where there's a .mil, there's Huawei: Pentagon allowed to keep using Chinese tech deemed too dangerous for everyone else – report

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Pint

Re: "That hasn't however, stopped the US and other nations . . ."

Trump wants Chinese comms out of the network, he can push the budget to do it.

But ... that would be Work. The Donald doesn't do Work, it's demeaning!

Norfolk's second-greatest cultural export set for return with 3-metre monument in honour of the Turkey Twizzler

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Angel

Is that a fact?

"The fact it's taken Bernard Matthews 15 years to reformulate the Turkey Twizzler shows what a truly terrible product it used to be."

Alternatively, It could have taken them 15 years of solid Tory party donations (and the boost from an upcoming no-deal Brexit) to undermine UK food standards enough to make them declare 40% more of whatever was originally in that thing to be "Meat"!?

Uncle Sam says it's perfecting autonomous AI-powered drone, vehicle swarms to 'dominate' battlefields

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Re: Did none of these people see the movie called...

.... And it took so much longer because it had also to develop nano-technology to find those brains!

Intel NDA blueprints – 20GB of source code, schematics, specs, docs – spill onto web from partners-only vault

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Re: 10 and 7nm

Sure. Maybe this leak is an intelligence operation to lure China into using non-working Intel technologies?

Bill Gates debunks 'coronavirus vaccine is my 5G mind control microchip implant' conspiracy theory

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Flame

Re: It's the Russians, stoopid

It's Everyone!

Runnning a global influence operation used to be reserved for those with the capabilities and ressources of nation states. States, squllionaries and maybe some DOW-20 corporations "back in the day".

Today, thanks to digitalisation boosting efficiencies, it can be run out from a seedy flat in Manchester!

The Algorithms are on the side of "seedy flat guy": The shittier the content, the more impotent rage it generates. The more rage, the more shares, pageviews, comments and click-troughs, which means proportionally more funding for The Algorithms presenting it so they will adopt for even shittier content!

Basically, anyone can become The Daily Mail! Thanks Internet!!

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Pint

Re: Very good skeptoid podcast recently debunking this stuff

If we do decide to preach to the heathens and not the choir, there some guides online in how how to talk to conspiracy theorists.

Tish, Tosh: The well-proven British Empire way of deling with heathens is way, way better: Lee-Enfields and Maxims deployed from fixed positions, a liberal supply of Redshirts and a plentitude of Ammo!

If one is not willing to do important work properly, why bother at all, eh!?

Besides, Going "online" and "talking" to conspiracy nutters / bots is *exactly* what THEY* want: THEY need especially the smarter people to waste their time and effort on a futile and meaningless crusade so that they dont spend their irreplacable time on changing things or creating new things or indeed doing anything at all that can affect the world that the oligarchs created for themselves.

*) THEY - Anyone who are sitting high on the hog and want that to remain so, Anyone who sees other nations as competitors in a zero-sum game and the weakening and the fragmenting of their people and institutions as A Good Policy!

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Pint

got insanely rich by pushing sub-standard products,

OTOH - All sucessful ecosystems have parasites, meaining: If those products were of a higher standard, people like I would be driving crappier cars and live in smaller, crappier, homes because we wouldn't be fixing them all the time!

Chips for Huawei are fried: TSMC stops shipping parts to Middle Kingdom mega-maker this September

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Pint

The USA is becoming more and more like the old USSR but somehow in reverse .... instead of spreading its ideas to the world, it is isolating itself into it's own bubble-world of strange thinking that was maybe seen as edgy 70 years ago. Guess that comes from letting all those geriatrics into High Office.

You may be distracted by the pandemic but FYI: US Senate panel OK's backdoors-by-the-backdoor EARN IT Act

fajensen

Re: Don't use centralised, commercial services

Ok. I shall tell my bank and everyone else I need to interact with right away!

Linux kernel coders propose inclusive terminology coding guidelines, note: 'Arguments about why people should not be offended do not scale'

fajensen

Re: Loaded words replaced by euphemisms

Nope! Black numbers represent lost Growth Potential!

The fastest way to become an internet squillionaire is to set up a system to flare off billions of funding, leveraged to 80-200 times with zero-interest borrowing, while skimming (and scamming) a few ppm off that flow! Being profitable is so limiting!!

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Coat

Re: Loaded words replaced by euphemisms

What do we gain by replacing words today?

We get Change, without any Change. A very nice and useful thing to have. If one is one of the lucky few that gains tremendously from the current system.

I'd say that Woke-ness and ID-pol has same kind of smells as the CIA influence operations that caused the lefties to atomise and tear each other to shreds rather than having a go at their capitalist oppressors, only now with a wider scope: Getting the proles to shatter into a billion fragments and then rip each other to shreads over words - while Wallstreet gets 200x the Apollo Program in Bailouts that the proles will pay over their greatly shortened-by-misery lifespans!

Australia's Lion brewery hit by second cyber attack as nation staggers under suspected Chinese digital assault

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Re: If China has nothing to hide...

The belligerence, concentration camps, militarization of the South China Sea, etc., all happened before Trump's sanctions.

I am confused: Are we talking about the USA or China here?

The USA has the "immigrant processing centers" and Indefinite Detention + Guantanmo to be proud of, Australia, being the poor cousin, has only the "immigrant processing islands" ....

Made-up murder claims, threats to kill Twitter, rants about NSA spying – anything but mention 100,000 US virus deaths, right, Mr President?

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Facepalm

Re: If the author of this PoC

they should not be allowed to suppress free speech since it is unconstitutional.

Nope. The constitution only regulates GOVERNMENT suppresion of free speech (and waddayou know, exactly what Uncle Donny is probably up to). Corporations, being NOT THE GOVERNMENT (yet), can do more or less what they like, including asking any "free speakers" to buy their own lawn and soapboxen to speak from!

Behold: The ghastly, preening, lesser-spotted Incredible Bullsh*tting Customer

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Re: There should be an IT Driving Test

The funny thing is that sometimes they call you in later as a consultant for more money to get them out of the hole they are still sitting in from when the "employee interviews" were done.

HR never, ever, makes mistakes and so the only way forward is to mutate the job and go again!