* Posts by John Robson

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UK smart meter rollout years late and less than two thirds complete

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Almost - they were charging 34p without, and 27p (inc SC) with.

The reason they can do that is that the smart meter opens up time of day tariffs, and even with the peak cost being raised to 40p, the savings in off peak power dropped my overall rate.

Adding in the PV/battery system and this year I've paid an average of 10.2p (including the SC) this year.

Obviously that cost me some money... to raise the total cost of energy to the profit guarantee rate (34p) I would need to amortise the cost of the installation over a little less than 5 years (and I'm including the SC in my pricing, so the payback is actually shorter still at current prices)

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Re: I'm not sure why you've got so many down votes

Single day statistics can show anything you like.

Summer tends to have a little more power available during the day, and both solar and wind are being built out around the country.

The "off peak" period doesn't have to be at the same time all year round - and it can vary even more than that.

It's what octopus intelligent does - it looks at the grid, and looks at the charge you've requested on your car and then picks the best time to do the charge between when you plugged in and when you need the car.

Nothing complicated for the customer - just say "I want 75% charge by 9 am each week day" and plug in when you get home each day... the hours the car actually charges are then scheduled to be at the most effective times for the grid.

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Re: I'm not sure why you've got so many down votes

There is still an excess of wind in the small hours, because demand drops further than the wind.

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Re: Not smart at all

Can't be bothered? That's doesn't correspond with the experience of various people I know.

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Re: I recently did some calculation for someone who is getting an EV

Yes - take the max they could spend and add on their household usage to get their fuel bill... /s

They can pay £885 by selecting an appropriate tariff, or ~£285 more than they currently pay by adding an EV and switching tariff.

That's less than £25 a month, and 3400kWh/year is likely 12-14k miles so that's £25 for a thousand miles - 2.5p per mile.

Compared with an ICE which gets 50mpg at 144p (RAC national average today) at 13p/mile or £1600 of fuel a year.

So yes, that's one hell of a saving (£1300 in the first year alone)

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They reckon the fast charger network will cost a billion...

Besides which a billion is pocket change on national infrastructure... it's what National Highways spend on maintaining less than five thousand miles of roads.

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Well, yes - you might need to do some work to figure out what your usage is, and therefore what tariff you can take advantage of.

Even with a 40p peak rate I was paying an average of 27p (including SC) even before the PV and battery.

You don't see the cost saving because you aren't prepared to look for the cost saving.

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The grid won't go into meltdown from EVs and HPs - as those running the grid consistently keep telling people.

The discount rate can easily be enough to save more than the peak rate will cost; and the more people who manage to time shift the better - lowering the peak usage is one very important target here.

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They've invested heavily in distribution infrastructure... OH, for water? No they've ignored that. They've invested heavily in taking on debt and distributing the cash to shareholders.

Since privatisation in 1989 they've paid £50 billion in dividends, and they now have £56 billion in debt.

Is it only me that expects that £6 billion to appear as dividends soon?

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Re: Not smart at all

Nope - they're all talking to either telefonica or arquiva. The retailer doesn't need to set up to read smart meters.

If it's smets1 then it might not have have had transferable data (which was a criminal oversight)

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Get a better supplier then.

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Re: screw 'em

Audit what code?

Do you need to audit the processor design as well, and the compiler code, and how do you verify that the firmware is the code you saw, or was compiled using the compiler you saw....

They get half hourly usage data (if you approve that data sharing) - this allows them to bill you.

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You need to get a better supplier then...

Octopus generally get good reviews, and I've found them to be pretty good.

Referral bonuses are actually paid, you can choose your own payment date and payment value on the website.

They also have tariffs which work really well for people with PV/battery systems.

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Smart water meters are already here - though my water company won't fit a meter at all. They claim the pipe isn't suitable.

With half hourly measurements, and that data being made available to the consumer, it's fairly easy to check that you have been appropriately charged.

The complexity of agile style tariffs is something that really needs automation to deal with - battery systems etc can import that data and automatically schedule their charge/discharge schedule to minimise the price of electricity.

But even old E7/E10 style tariffs can be better managed by smart meters, at least they actually keep decent time.

My tariff requires a smart meter, and I like having the data. I know that I am on the best tariff, partly because of the data I get.

It was always a bit of a guess previously.

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It's hard to see how smart meters are meant to save money in and of themselves.

People already know that devices use energy...

The real benefit is interesting time of day tariffs, and demand reduction schemes like we had last winter.

NASA to tear the wings off plane in the name of sustainability

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Re: Interesting design

Well the MD80 can take about 18 tonnes of fuel, nearly a third of the 64 tonne MTOW.

Half of that fuel is in the wing tanks, and the other half is in the centre tank.

https://www.hilmerby.com/md80/md_fuel.html

"Max usable tank capacity 4 200 kg in each main tank and 9 340 kg in center at 0.803 kg/l in spec weight."

Not sure if the modified wings actually affect the centre tank structure (which might still be part of the wings)

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Re: Interesting design

There are other places to put fuel, but yes, some fuselage space will need to carry fuel rather than cargo - that's not exactly new.

Waymo robo-car slays dog in San Francisco

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> None of our scrapped lithium-ion batteries go to landfilling, and 100% are recycled.

Notice the world OUR. They dont say they ACCEPT YOUR or the PUBLIC or customer batteries.

Oh my goodness, you really are grasping at straws aren't you:

"Recycling

We observe the Waste Batteries and Accumulators Regulations 2009.

As a producer of industrial Lithium-Ion batteries, we take back waste industrial batteries supplied to an end user for treatment and recycling at no cost. As Tesla sells Lead-Acid batteries, Tesla is also considered a producer of Lead-Acid batteries in the UK. We collect waste automotive batteries for treatment and recycling—free of charge and within a reasonable time.

You can return end-of-life products, such as electronics with a size of up to 25 cm, to Tesla locations during working hours at no cost. To return industrial or automotive batteries, contact us and we’ll schedule an appointment with you."

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"Yes petrol is bad, but EV batteries are worse."

Citation needed - because that's not what any peer reviewed research shows - and it's exactly the point at hand because EVs are replacing fossil fuel vehicles.

"Tesla sold a million cars last year, and this company recycled just over 1000,if you can do basic maths thats 1%."

Erm - you might want to look at your maths again: thousand/million is 0.1%

So you expect them to recycle batteries as they sell them, rather than after the 15+ years of useful life they have?

Tesla sales weren't a million units 15-20 years ago - 15 years ago they sold 500 roadsters in 18 months. I would expect those to be relatively low mileage vehicles, so their batteries are probably still fine.

"Nobody is going to recycle a battery when it costs 10x more than the value of the components. The reason after many years they are still only doing small numbers is they havent ffigure out how to get the cost down."

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1246828/value-of-recycled-ev-batteries-by-battery-type/

NMC batteries earnt recyclers 42USD/kWh

The lowest value was LFP at just 15USD/kWh

None of the numbers are negative - in fact the recyclers are already earning from their recycling activities.

They are also investing heavily to allow them to expand, which is why they aren't yet declaring profit.

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But you haven't recycled any of the petrol that you've used - which is far more damaging to extract refine and burn

And why would you recycle something that's still in use?

Where are you getting your 1% from? The fact that they have processed more than a thousand battery packs, and are investing to scale up to the size that they can do a million over the next few years?

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Re: Invasion

Due to a miscalculation of scale?

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The pollution in manufacture is slightly more than for an ICE vehicle... it doesn't take long for that to be completely swamped by the running pollution (which, lest we forget is also being belched into the middle of populated areas).

However the more important question is - why would there be a major recycling network anywhere yet - even the earliest EV batteries haven't come to the end of their useful life yet, they're coming into their reuse phase, it'll be another few decades before they're at the recycle phase.

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Well you see if we can spin a "robot overlords" angle then we can say that heat pumps won't work when there are roadworks, and the EVs don't make coffee unless they are triple glazed.

Germans beat Tesla to autonomous L3 driving in the Golden State

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Re: Its demographics

At the same time wealthy people often look at the total cost of ownership - it's how they keep their money. If it costs more up front, but less over the lifetime of a product then you spend the extra up front... something which those with less financial means can't do. #vimesboots

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And the evidence suggests that it's actually capable of level 5 behaviour an astonishing amount of the time - it's clearly beyond L2, whatever the certification says.

No, it's not time to surrender licenses and hand over to the computers yet, but that doesn't stop me being impressed with the amount of driving FSD *is* capable of - particularly when it's capable of that on a wide variety of roads and in a good variety of situations.

As someone with a disability - even L2/L3 are massively valuable.

The reduction in cognitive load that they provide make driving for any significant length of time possible. I was reminded of that very strongly over the weekend, because the van I hired for Saturday didn't have the assistance features I used constantly - and driving less than 200 miles completely wiped me out for the remainder of the Saturday and all Sunday (I'm mostly recovered today). With the driver aids I can drive 300 miles and still be able to function in the evening, and the next day.

Can noise-cancelling buds beat headphones? We spent 20 hours flying to find out

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Re: Fit issues....

Ok - there are a couple with hooks, but not actual behind the ear style devices.

IEM style ear buds have the right cable route, but for obvious reasons that cable carries on.

I'm talking about wireless devices, with the cable going over to a small package behind the ear (providing plenty of space for battery, antennae, electronics etc.) which means that there is no force on the "in ear" bit to come out of the ear at all. Of course you can also trivially engineer in the space required for a removable battery - heck, mine run on Zinc/Air batteries.

Image of hearing aid

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Re: Fit issues....

Bone conduction is not behind the ear style, it's a completely different sound delivery concept and is usually on a head band in my experience.

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Re: Fit issues....

You'll find quite a few sports ones are designed that way.

Really? I've never seen any.

Could you possibly link to a couple

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Fit issues....

Why does noone make a behind the ear style device? Yes, I mean like hearing aids... plenty of volume for a decent battery, and some good electronics, supported over the ear with a fine cable down to the driver(s) in your canal.

Hearing aids are comfortable for extremely long periods (all day, every day), have multiple day battery life, never fall out, easy to have open driver designs as well as semi closed all the way to custom moulded.

Instead we insist on balancing expensive electronics just outside the ear canal, with a sort-of fit with a generic shape of silicone tip hoping to hold it in place.

A toast to being in the right place at the right time

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Re: Who are these people...

I've watched my son do it... he was three years old at the time though.

Shut down the whole tech for a church service, which I was running at the time. Took me very little time to diagnose the source of the failure, when I looked over he still had his hand on the switch (yes technically he'd hit the switch not pulled the plug, but same overall effect).

Starlink's rocket speeds hit a 50 megabit wall for large downloads

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Re: The bloom is falling off the rose...

Streaming shouldn't care about latency (within reason), it might care about jitter - but that's why the system buffers whilst you're streaming... you don't download each frame "just in time", you download a few tens of seconds ahead of where you are in the file.

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Re: It is a radio service

To be fair I had an issue with cable connectivity which was almost metronomic, and was nothing to do with throttling (although I nearly throttled them)

Every evening (10:30 ish from memory) the connection would outright fail, and resume early in the morning (7 ish).

Took several visits from engineers in the daytime before I actually got a network engineer who understood the logs I had and we tracked down a short section of cable with a tight radius bend in the green cabinet - the core conductor had fractured, and thermal expansion meant that it connected OK during the day, but when it cooled overnight the fracture separated and the signal was lost.

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Re: "Design Feature"

I was intrigued, so I ran ping for fifteen minutes against a device behind a remote starlink connection from a colo centre.

Out of 1000 packets sent I got just two with a ping more than 100ms (103 and 115 respectively), and no loss.

The average was 45ms, minimum was 21.8ms, only 6% (57) took 67ms or more (67ms is simply the average plus the minimum) and even those averaged just 77ms. So whilst the tail of slow packets is obviously longer than the "head" of very fast packets (which has a physical limit) it's sparse, and not stupidly long (high frequency traders and twitch gamers might want to pay for priority, I don't know if that has any affect on latency).

There isn't an obvious pattern in the latency data, though there are two clear sections which are a bit slower than the surrounding traffic - 417 - 431 (85ms) and 432 - 446 (62ms), though they are followed by a good patch (twenty with an average of 32ms)

So it wouldn't surprise me if we were talking as little as 15 seconds on some connections.

Satellite Map has a pretty nice live tracker, and watching that for a few minutes might give a little insight.

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Re: 200mb/s for "10minutes or so" = ~15GB

Looking through:

The AUP has this clause:

"EXCESSIVE USE OF NETWORK RESOURCES. SpaceX reserves the right to engage in reasonable network management to protect the overall network, including analyzing traffic patterns to optimize services and preventing the distribution of viruses or other malicious code. SpaceX reserves the right to immediately restrict, suspend, or terminate Services without notice in order to protect the network or minimize congestion caused by unauthorized use."

The FUP:

"Traffic Neutrality. We treat internet traffic equally, without discrimination based on content, sender, application or service. Network management practices are deployed based on technical requirements for specific categories of traffic. These practices are applied in an “application-agnostic” manner, meaning that the treatment of traffic is independent of the content data."

"Distributing Data Based on Service Plan. We seek to distribute data among our users in a fair and equitable manner by (1) implementing network management policies when the demand for network resources actually exceeds supply," [item 2 is the priority service]

"Starlink seeks to distribute Standard data among our users in a fair and equitable manner. If bandwidth patterns consistently exceed what is allocated to a typical residential user, Starlink may take network management measures, such as temporarily reducing a customer’s speeds, to prevent or mitigate congestion of the Services. Bandwidth intensive applications, such as streaming videos, gaming, or downloading large files are most likely to be impacted by such actions."

The Specifications:

"Actual speeds may be lower than expected speeds during times of high usage. Performance varies based on location, time of day and the precedence Starlink gives your data in the network based on your Service Plan."

"Starlink users typically experience download speeds between 25 and 220 Mbps, with a majority of users experiencing speeds over 100 Mbps"

So nothing explicitly says that there is a 15GB cap on single downloads... it's a rather substantial amount of data to be pushing.

Maybe at 2 am is when all the businesses etc who pay for priority kick off their backups?

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Re: "Design Feature"

I don't notice the switch, even during video calls...

The satellites aren't overhead for very long - orbital period is about 90 minutes, and that's covering a distance of ~24k miles, they'll only be in view for a few hundred miles of that...

So let's say they're each visible for about 2% of their orbit... that's about 2 minutes of visibility - and they'll not be used for that entire duration, they need to be found and tracked before they are used, and I don't imagine that performance is as good at low angles of elevation.

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YMMV

Can't say I noticed this when I was last on a starlink network, and I had several fairly sizeable downloads to do (a few ISOs and couple of other bits of software).

Maybe I just wasn't sat glued to the bitrate, or maybe it was just so much better than the 1-2 Mbit we used to get there that I was grateful that it worked at all.

The UK has a few gateways, but Aberdeenshire is probably not the extent of his region since only three are known to be live:

From StarLink Insider:

  • Chalfont Grove (live)
  • Fawley (unknown)
  • Goonhilly (live)
  • Hoo (construction pending)
  • Isle of Man (live)
  • Morn Hill (unknown)
  • Wherstead (construction ongoing)
  • Woodwalton (unknown)

New York City latest to sue Hyundai and Kia claiming their cars are too easy to steal

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So they are moving to legislate for immobilisers like a mature market or just throwing toys around like a toddler?

Sweden’s Evroc going full Viking with Euro cloud to raid US providers

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Re: "Europe's digital economy must be built on a European foundation"

Our infrastructure and setup mean that you can be confident that you won't be breaking the law on data protection.

That's actually worth quite a bit, and is something that would influence my purchase of a product that insisted on cloud infrastructure.

Windows XP's adventures in the afterlife shows copyright's copywrongs

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Re: What's the monetary damage?

Apologies - I thought the sarcasm was dripping off enough to not need a /s tag.

Clearly I was wrong.

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Re: What's the monetary damage?

Surely everyone who uses XP would instead buy WindowXX (what number are they up to now) at full retail price... no seriously they're not using XP because the latest version is too cheap and would cover their use case.

This ain't Boeing very well: Starliner's first crewed flight canceled yet again

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Re: Is this really necessary ?

You need a second supplier - just so that if a failure does happen you don't lose access to space whilst it's investigated.

Raspberry Pi production rate rising to a million a month

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Re: A Bit Late Now

Did you listen to the interview Eben had with Jeff?

WTF is solid state active cooling? We’ve just seen it working on a mini PC

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Re: "Frore is confident it can defeat dust": More details please.

Which it does (reverse direction that is)

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Re: "Frore is confident it can defeat dust": More details please.

Their system has a "blow backwards" mode, so their paper filters can be cleaned out by the cooling system itself.

India official fined after draining reservoir to recover phone

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I'd have thought that a scuba hire would be have been cheaper and more likely to be effective.

NASA experts looked through 800 UFO sightings and found essentially nothing

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I suspect you're underestimating the number of people who already have their phones out or start recording.

UK watchdog won't block Openreach’s discount fiber pricing

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Re: Well then compete...

How can it possibly be more profitable to build out an area where those who want fibre are already served (and likely already in contracts)?

Do you want to have 80 customers for yourself, or compete to win 100 customers from an existing supplier contract and relationship?

This is one area where the altnets are doing themselves no favours at all... They should have a reseller arm that does openreach fibre, and a dedicated network arm that does their own.

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Well then compete...

"One altnet provider, CityFibre, claimed at the time that it would give Openreach an unfair advantage in winning new customers"

Stop following BT around laying fibre where they have already provided it and go lay some where it isn't yet available.

It's not rocket science, if you're coming round six months after BT then anyone who wants fibre has probably already got it - if you went somewhere else then BT wouldn't get that advantage, you would.

And there are plenty of places around here where there is no BT fibre, but there are enough houses to make city fibre worthwhile to lay (i.e. similar housing density to where they are currently laying)

Intel mulls cutting ties to 16 and 32-bit support

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Backwards compatibility

The anchor that either gives reliability or drags everything down to the lowest common factor...

Modern hypervisor tech means it's probably time for 32 bit native hardware to be put out to pasture - the ability to pass through devices properly really helps

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