873 posts • joined 27 Mar 2008
"About four million people have been charged for mobile phones they already own, spending £500m extra on contracts, according to Citizens Advice.
Three of Britain's biggest mobile networks, EE, Three and Vodafone, continue to charge for handsets even after the cost has been paid off.
Many customers have no idea they are being charged for phones after their contracts have ended."
I've been telling various people, who don't immediately upgrade and/or go SIM only once their contract has expired, this for years; if your contract costs you (e.g.) £45 p/m and your networks SIM only deal is £20 p/m what do you think the difference in cost is?
V/MNO's have been very sly at convincing people that handsets are "free" if you have them with a contract (I'm sure some even still advertise the phones as such) and take advantage by charging full whack (phone + network allowance/usage), even though the customer has completely paid for the phone once the contract has expired.
V/MNO's should, at the very least, be forced, by law, to explicitly and clearly state in-store/on-screen and in paperwork that the phone is completely paid for by the end of the contract to make people aware that they will be paying over the odds - continually paying for a phone they've already paid for - if they let the "contract" run. Or, preferably, should be forced, by law, upon the expiration of a contract to only charge what they would charge for a SIM only deal.
Re: Catch 22
"Nobody [...] nobody [...] Nobody [...] nobody"
Nobody? I'm using IPv6. Well, my ISP is on their network side of the router. My side of the router is still IPv4.
"The United Kingdom has been through far, far worse things than a no deal Brexit and it only made us stronger, true then we wen't filled with limp writsed, soy boy wimps like you in those times but I'm confident our feminists can take your place."
Oh do fuck off.
What are these worse things that only made us stronger? Let me just reach into my bag of "Brexiteer Bollocks", rummage around for a tired old trope, and... Oh, dear God, its not WW2, is it? It is, isn't it?
As for the name calling; that's one reason, of many, why so many of you Brexiteers are regarded with such contempt. It's pathetic. Grow. The. Fuck. Up.
Re: To anyone pro-Brexit
"We agreed that the result would be implemented"
No, we most certainly did not. Unless you think any old shit is now legally binding. Let's put that to the test; Find me something, anything, in our statutes that said the referendum result would be implemented. If you can't, you owe me £5000. If you can, I owe you £5000.
So, purely on the basis I've written that, we agree to that, right? No, I didn't think so.
Re: Remind me...
"Boris Johnson and his banana lies. He got sacked as a journalist for lying. No risk of libel, it's a fact."
Boris Johnson is a massive cunt. No risk of libel, it's a fact.
Re: I know they appear to have nothing on there that really needs it but....
"I know they appear to have nothing on there that really needs it "
There's your answer. What does is need to be secure for?
Re: If it was only security patches
"smug, arrogant, leftist, millenial 'political correctness' fascist. [...] typical of THE LEFT."
Jesus H f**king Christ on a bicycle at Christmas. When did El Reg start letting MAGA type dickheads sign up? Bring back Matt, all is forgiven!
Re: Being sensible
"I live next to a church. If I fancy an early night on a Tuesday, it's impossible due to the campanologists practicing, but that is their right and their hobby so I would never dream complain."
I'm going to hazard a guess and say the church was there long before you moved next door? Churches often have bells and bell ringers need to practice. I'd argue that, unless they're practicing every day for hours or at night, you have very little right to complain. I also extend this argument to the cretins who move close to existing nightclubs or live music venues then complain about the noise*.
* I know people who had very successful late night entertainment businesses but had to permanently close them because the idiotic local council gave planning permission for new housing developments nearby and then the equally idiotic new residents complained to the council about the businesses who were then forced to shut. So well done to the residents for denying local job creators their, and their employees, right to earn a living <slow hand clap>.
Re: Who do you trust?
"In civilized countries a charge sheet or its equivalent is handed in COURT. You have to demonstrate to a judge that there is enough material to charge a person and it is the court which hands the charge sheet. This is the case in the UK [...].
In less civilized countries charges are filed by a prosecutor,"
I'm not entirely convinced this is correct; for the UK at least. I could be wrong but If the police feel there is enough evidence that you have committed a crime, particularly in open-and-shut cases (like a positive breathaliser result for instance) or something they have witnessed themselves, they can charge you without consulting any other agency or court. If they are not sure they have enough evidence to charge someone they consult with the CPS (Crown Prosecution Service) to gauge the chances of a successful prosecution with what evidence they do have. If the CPS feel there is, again, its the police that charge you.
Re: Funny Sound Bite on Radio 4 This morning
"As an old parent, with parents now in their early teens"
Does not compute.
Re: Don't forget the other two holy words
Ecky ecky fatang
"Windows 10 can still point the way back to simpler and happier times.
By generating a BSoD when you least expect it."
Apart from a catastrophically dead hard-drive once being the cause I can't remember the last time I saw a BSOD on 10, 8 or XP.
Re: Oh well
Have an obligatory downvote for moaning about downvotes.
Re: The edge is nothing more than a ripple in the pond
"Doesn't part of that trip go through Mexico?"
No. We took Interstate 10 from LA to San Antonio which passes through the Mexican border town of El Paso (US side) and then runs south-west parallel with the border (a few miles away from it) for about 60 miles before turning east south-east towards San Antonio.
Re: The edge is nothing more than a ripple in the pond
"It's just so mind-bogglingly far that it's hard to grasp. Think trillions or more of light years away."
As a Brit I couldn't grasp it taking two days to travel from Los Angeles, CA to San Antonio, TX by road. Still, some spectacular views along the way and I saw the Milky Way with my own eyes for the first time.
Re: depression and broken souls
”Once the LGB&Q crowd are involved it's going to be cheap and tacky and about sex.”
Sounds a lot more fun that you do homophobe.
El Reg needs a "wanker" icon.
I once got a call on my mobile out of the blue from the local 999 operator asking me if I was okay. Obviously detecting the slight confusion at my end she asked me if I had a Nokia. Seemed a random thing to ask but as it happened I did have a Nokia (a 3310 to be precise). Apparently the 999 operators used to get a lot of random calls from Nokia phones as, even when locked, all you had to do was hold down the 9 key for a second and it would automatically dial 999 without even needing to press call.
Why did you stop? I just need Emails, Hillary, and Fake News for a line!
Re: i am wondering about unintended consequences
"Then the remaining two will fuck each other to death."
Where do I sign up?
...pretty much the entire web? Is every website ever supposed to have a licence from International Bullying Machine?
Re: It is faster, yes
Zenmate has recently limited their only free VPN server to one in Germany (removing their US, Singapore and somewhere in Eastern Europe servers). I used it to watch the Daily Show and Last Week Tonight. Useless to me now.
Re: The Quantum of Firefox
"It actually makes things easier for developers to provide add-ons for all browsers."
But I - nor most people I dare say- don't use all browsers. What good is that to me when add-ons that I rely on that can't or won't (because the dev doesn't have the time or resources to start from scratch, or relevant APIs no longer exist) be migrated to the new version?
I can't help but feel the direction browsers are moving in is to specifically prevent us from tailoring our experience of the web, to make it less flexible, to prevent us from sidestepping all the annoying cruft? It wouldn't surprise me if, in a few years, user CSS and anything, like scripts, that can mess with a pages HTML/DOM that hasn't come from the originating server (or other servers designated by the original server) - so things like the GreaseMonkey add-ons and similar - find their necessary APIs dropped?
Soon there's going to be nothing to differentiate any browser, how is that going to encourage ANYBODY to switch to Firefox? Most people won't give a damn about a theoretical 30% speed increase - achieved in a no doubt strictly controlled environment - when what they have still "works".
For a tablet. Any chance of telling us how it functions as, umm, y'know, a phone?
Re: obligatory 1984 quote
Forgotten? They released an album in May of this year, they're still going.
Who pays to use YOUR internet connection?
So who will it be, the TV manufacturers, broadcasters, or advertisers that will be paying for the TV/Home owners internet connection to deliver the "personalised" content?
"He thought of the telescreen with its never-sleeping ear"
Re: Obviously this is very much "Oh god think of the children!" territory, buuut...
"YT relies on the second half of the "algorithm" - The Report Abuse button."So does FB, and I'm a big fan of it. There's enough places on the internet to peruse lady baps and/or gentlemen sausage (or even tentacles, if thats your thing) on the internet without being confronted with it on FB too. Don't get me wrong, I'm all in favour of watching people bump uglies, just not in the middle of the virtual town centre.
Yeah, imagine those foreigners wanting you to be accountable for your crimes committed in their countries. What a bunch of selfish bastards.
Re: Stupid people don't know they're stupid
"but they often find it politically expedient to blame "Brussels" for things they may well have approved but are not very popular at home, at the moment."You mean live UK.gov have done time and time again... "It was the EU that dun it. Honest".
Re: "cancellation of fishing rights for other countries in British waters"
"every area that includes UK territorial waters includes territorial waters of at least one other state"
And so does Portugal, Spain, France, Italy, Greece, Belgium, Germany, Holland, Ireland, Denmark, Sweden, Finland, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Poland, Romania, Bulgaria, Slovenia, and Croatia.
Your point is?
"What data ? whats the problem?
I just cant get the gist of this article.
The fabled Brexiteer "intelligence" on display again.
Wolfetone, I cannot upvote this enough.
The self-fulfilling prophesy: "The EU doesn't work for us" - Well it won't if you keep electing fraud committing morons who don't sodding turn up and when they do do f*ck all.
Re: "The potential downside of not getting this right is very serious,"
The fact that you think this is an issue of "translating data from one format to another" leads me to believe you haven't got the first f*cking clue what you're talking about. This is why many "remoaners" hold leavers in such contempt.
Lets just get this over with then:
- You lost, get over it
- Stop talking the country down
- We're more important to them...
- German cars
- We managed okay before the war
- The EU is an unelected dictatorship
1970's/1980's = Huge porn 'staches.
2010's/2020's = Huge porn stashes.
"Anyone fancy a Phillips CM8833 mkii?"
Mine is still in the loft, but thanks anyway.
I switch off ad blocking once...
For some context I have MSI GS40 - 3.5Ghz Quad Core i7 with 16gb of RAM and a 256gb SSD - a laptop thats not short on performance and a 60mb internet connection.
I once switched off the NoScript and Ghostery FireFox add-ons and, well... page load times massively increased as if I was on dial-up, some pages had (according to Ghostery) 40-odd trackers/adverts and such, and (according to NoScript) 20-odd external scripts, the pages jumped all over the place with scripts messing about with the DOM, images resizing, fonts changing and zooming in or out, auto-play video's that expand and shrink when done and move the content about, and on, and on, and on, and on...
Err, thanks but no thanks. Until websites stop actively creating a jarring, time-consuming and painful user experience then my ad/script blockers are staying firmly on. You can call me a freeloader, I don't really care, but you can only call me that if you've never, ever skipped adverts on anything you've PVR'd.
Start of 2 year exit negotiations?
Why do media outlets keep saying the talks mark the start of the 2 year exit negotiations?
The 2 year exit countdown has already started, its started upon delivery of the Article 50 letter... 2 and a half months ago, most of which has been wasted by Theresa Mayhems ill-advised and ill-fated snap GE.
What happened to screwing?
I love screwing!
YouTube has adverts? Since when?
Re: William Wallace
Until they finally convince themselves completely that banning encryption is the only way to save us all.
"When the airlines start losing money from less people flying into or around the country and less passengers from abroad traveling to the USA"
When? Its already happening. Global searches, and bookings, of flights/holidays to the US are already dramatically down.
I managed to make my IFE crash on an Emirates flight a couple of years ago, by doing exactly the same thing. Fortunately they got it back up by rebooting just my system from one of the galleys. It took ages to reboot, with all the usual Linux mumbo-jumbo whizzing up the screen, eventually, I think, booting into a custom version of Android with the boot logos removed and immediately going into a custom launcher.
The easiest way to tell if an IFE system is running Android is by going to the maps or games section and starting a game or map. I'm not sure if its because the IFE systems have a tiny amount of memory but they seem to remove the audio/video/info section (launcher?) of the IFE system from memory, briefly causing the Android on-screen buttons to appear before running the game/map and vice-versa when you quit. My memory is a bit fuzzy with Emirates doing this, but I know Singapore Airlines IFE does.
Re: Necessary Evil
Flew with BA to Mexico last year, food was dire. Return journey was with Iberia, food was worse still. Food on Emirates is okay, so too on Lufthansa (you even get free sandwiches on their short hop flights which was a surprise!) and Etihad wasn't bad. Best was probably Singapore Airlines, who even brought proper Magnum ice creams (on sticks) round for desert. Was quite a weird experience eating a proper ice cream while watching the world pass by at 35,000ft.
Incidentally Singapore Airlines also do really good flight kits, even in the cheap seats, 3 of which found their way into my hand luggage and the nice blue zipped bags are now used to keep things organised in my hand luggage back-pack! :D
Re: Even if it were true...
Re: Shame on you all
"a cup of tea"
They threw out all the tea, remember?
Re: Punishment fits the crime? @Shades
What a load of absolute fucking shit. Between the back tracking, bullshit claims of "percentages", use of snowflake, and whines of political correctness no doubt you pair are backward fuckwit Trump (and/or Fuhrage) supporters.
Anyone, without the tendency to be a lying cunt, knows full well you weren't referring to BDSM bottoms; Besides the fact there are many facets to BDSM - only some of which involve pain - if, on the off-chance a paedophile was also into BDSM, I don't think getting the absolute living shit stomped out of you is something even the most hardened BDSM bottom would find pleasurable. Doubly so for a BDSM top - "if he's not, he'll learn to enjoy it" - why the fuck would a BDSM top "learn to enjoy" having the living shit stomped out of him? Get the fuck out of here with your pathetic "I mean't BDSM" backtracking bullshit!
So, what other section of society uses the terms Bottom and Top? What other section of society has, for many, many years also suffered the unfounded stereotype and stigma of being associated with paedophilia? Go on, take one fucking guess...
And on behalf of others? For all you know I could be extravagantly fabulous myself, have close friends who are also fabulous, so too a couple of cousins and have worked within the gay night-life industry. You don't know me, so who the fuck are you to suggest I'm being offended on behalf of others? However, you do realise that you don't have to be the "subject" (for want of a better word) that is being offensively commented upon to be offended right? I don't have to be gay to be offended by a casual connection between homosexuality and paedophilia, similarly I don't have to, as a kid, have been fucked by an adult to find a "joke" about paedophilia offensive. To believe otherwise is treading dangerously down the path of being a typical piece of shit Drumpf/Fuhrage supporting wanker.
BTW, you are dead wrong about gay men "far" preferring fellatio... maybe you're projecting your time in the school showers?
TL;DR Go fuck yourselves, you pair of utter scumbags.