* Posts by Boris the Cockroach

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'Last man standing in the floppy disk business' reckons his company has 4 years left

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FAIL

Re: The company now has an estimated half a million disks in stock

Error reading disk # 12561: Abort, retry, fail?

Until a few years ago, some of our stuff was still on paper tape readers, before being converted to new fangled RS-232 and then RS-232 to USB converters.

Sometimes the USB can play silly buggers, but you need the right hammer to hit the laptops with to get them to work.(mostly caused by the staff using the laptop's 4 USB ports as handy charging sockets for phones, earbuds etc etc)

Where in the world is Terraform Labs' alleged crypto-crasher Do Kwon?

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Re: Perhaps

Before or after encrypting his laptop...............

Can reflections in eyeglasses actually leak info from Zoom calls? Here's a study into it

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Re: Hmm, better stop using the 4k camera to stream...

"EWww whats just landed on the camera lens?"

Paris... because she was good at that sorta thing... oh no icon

HP pays $1.3m to settle dispute over printer security chip

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Re: I've stopped buying HP anything

Quote:

"Enjoy your increased profits on sales of ink and toner cartridges to those who have HP printers, boys. Then watch your bottom line fall off a cliff as new hardware sales collapse."

I doubt the ones responsible even care, they made a decision that brought extra profits to HP and prevented 3rd party's from getting a slice of those profits, thus showing a boldness in approach to increasing HP's profits.

Thus they were richly rewarded with extra bonuses, and share options (cashed out by now) and they could go onto bigger and better things with HP's glowing endorsment on their CVs.

The fact the company is heading for a cliff edge does'nt bother them as

A. they got their $$$$$

and B. they no longer work for HP.

Wheres the rich man's icon? (and Paris)

Chemical plant taken offline by the best one of all: C8H10N4O2

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Coat

Laptops

dipped in the chemical plating tank dont work afterwards

We did save the HDD ... just

Coat as that has the big rubber gloves for saving stuff that fallen in the tank .....

BOFH: It's Friday, it's time to RTFM

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Coffee/keyboard

Its the sad

fact that I didnt even need to think about about most of those and killed another keyboard with a fit of laughter that made my throat sore hence I need the TCP

Although the boss did ask what the cause of merriment was before he started with.

"Our estemed* prod engineer is leaving next week...."

"And?"

"I would like you to take over some of his duties as your PFY seems to think you are getting too old to go crawling around the machining cells"

"Uh huh.... what duties?"

"Only sitting in on the scheduling meeting on a thursday so you cant come to my office monday morning, throw the schedule on my desk and say "what the *^^( is this &*%*&*?""

So.... it seems my PFY has not only stabbed me in the back , but also given me another meeting to goto and trying to deprive me of monday morning fun..... only 6 months in and I've trained her so well....

*thats what he thinks, everyone else thinks the guy is not as good as the boss thinks...

South Korea takes massive step toward sustainable nuclear fusion reactions

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Re: Yeah, cool story buuuuuut.....

Lithium 7 .... hit it with neutrons from a fusion reaction and it turns into helium and tritium.

Read up on castle bravo..........

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Mushroom

50 years

ago it was micro seconds the plasma lasted for and it took a fission bomb to generate

So we are making progress.

Government buyers take 22 months on average to procure tech

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Facepalm

And the single technical person who fails to get the whole system running is fired for poor performance while the tech side is outsourced to a company based abroad owned by the minister's other 1/2 ..........

Bye bye BoJo: Liz Truss named new UK prime minister

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Re: Please don't take this the wrong way, but

I dont want her support.

In any case, I wouldn't be surprised if her first policy was to do away with the energy price cap and let the energy companies charge what they like.

That way all the poor people and pensioners will die of hypothermia this winter because they cant afford heating thus shortening the NHS waiting lists and cutting benefit costs.

2 birds with 1 stone as it were

The crime against humanity that is the modern OS desktop, and how to kill it

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Holmes

Consider

the car market for a bit if you please.

Would the car be as popular as it is if the makers changed the layout of the controls every time a new model came out

"NEW! EXCITING! MORE MPG! its the Ford fustercluckenburger... now with the throttle pedal on the left and the clutch on the right and reverse gear where last year first gear was"

How many would they sell? (althought with a name like fustercluckenburger I guess it would appeal to someone)

Now lets goto the computer GUI... and many many many moons ago I created an RS232 comms program... and although the back end of it was improved over time, the one thing that never changed once the testers were happy with it was the GUI why? because it hid its complexity behind the simplest user interface I could think of.

Which was a send button, a recieve button and a row of buttons to pick the machining cell the data was going to/coming from.

The users didnt need to know (or even cared) about the clever multi-threaded aspect of it, or the vertical parity byte generator(that was a swine to do until recursion occured to me) or when the thing was updated for even more multi-threaded cleverness so long as the GUI stayed the same.

This is the lesson m$, apple and others have forgotten, and also why so many people struggle with computers when they should be an easy to use tool that increases your productivity rather than spending 2 hrs trying to find where the OS creator has hidden the advanced printer settings THIS time.

Google, YouTube ban election trolls ahead of US midterms

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Re: Try a little critical thinking

Quote

"But Hillary"!!!!!

Bollocks (to coin a good old british phrase)

Thats nothing to do with it.

The questions are

Did trump have classified material he was not suppossed to have as a private citizen?

Did trump return all classified material back to the national archive as he's supposed to do when leaving the white house

Did trump return all classified material when the archive requested it 3 months later

Did trump swear that he had

Was classified material found by the FBI on a legal warrented search of trump's property

When those questions have been answered properly in a court of law, then we'll see what the truth of the matter is (not that I believe it will come to that as trump will string out the case for as long as he can afford the lawyers to argue the issue)

PS retaining classified docs was made a felony in 2018 by one president trump.......

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Re: Try a little critical thinking

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"Then of course there's Darth Biden's recent speech against a blood red backdrop warning Americans that the greates threat to Democratcy is the 70m Americans who didn't vote for him. He authoritatively stated that they're all anti-American, anti-Democratcy, and facists."

Actually the threat is someone who puts a man above party, and that party above the country.

If you follow trump blindly and uncritically, you are the danger to democracy.

I've no truck with labour here, especially when corbyn was leading it, but I voted for him as I already knew what a liar, cheat and all round tosspot bozo the clown is... and I'd rather have a leader with some integrity than a bumbling chancer who stabbed his own party leader in the back just so he could be leader

PS I worked for the government once in the naughty dept if the cop raided my house and found I had top secret materials here I'd be spending the next 3 months remanded to jail and the following 5 years after conviction in another jail........................

EU proposes regulations for tablet battery life, spare parts

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Meh

Typical government

Why not cut it down to the simpler idea

The part that wears out in one of todays phones/tablets is the battery

Pass a law saying that a typical person, armed with a small crosshead screwdriver, should be able to remove said battery and put a new one in.

Thats it.

Because I have a tablet and phone that are knackered because I cant do that...... both are glued + bonded and in the case of of the phone, everything has to be de-glued/removed before you can get at the battery.

Goodbye, humans: Call centers 'could save $80b' switching to AI

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Re: You mean...

Weirdly, I had great difficulty with the vermin media's indian call center understanding my problem (they kept referring to me as "Mr Boris"), when they gave up and escalated it to the scotland center, the scots resolved it in about 5 mins.......

To be honest , all these call centers should have an option " Press 4 if you are an extremely capable IT geek type person who's already looked on our web site and applied the solutions there"

Left-wing campaign group throws weight behind BT strikes

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Public sector? me?

Sorry m8 I work for a private manufacturing company playing with robotic machining cells

The reason those statutory rights are written into law is because unions/labour put them there, not because the tories were feeeling generous.

And remember the tories dont exactly love small businesses....... the best way to get my boss frothing at the mouth is to mention how big companies are allowed to profit shift thus avoiding paying any tax on said profit... and he cant....

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"Forming a cartel of employees and starting a protection racket (nice telephone system, tube system, etc you've got here...) isn't fine."

Wow thats pretty strong trolling there(either that or they're the last person on duty in conservative central office)

Let me introduce you to friends of mine thanks to that cartel of employees

First called "saturday" and the reason you dont work it is because of that cartel(unless you want to)

Also theres "Health and safety" so that your office is nice and warm instead of huddling around a candle

And "Holidays" (well actually Holidays beyond Christmas day and good friday)

And "40 hr/5 day week" instead of "72 hrs/ 6day week"

And "Employment rights" so you cannot be fired just because the boss is tired of your face

And "... " well you get the idea

Now if you're happy working 12 hr days for 6 days a week for 1 & 6 a day with no job security plus equipment that can tear you in 1/2 while you doff your cap to your boss.... you go ahead

But back to BT..... I suspect they voted for strike action because of the dickhead of the year award* move of paying the CEO 32% more and offering the workforce 1.5%.........

that never goes down well

*this award is very hotly contested this year.....

Germany orders Sept 1 shutdown of digital ad displays to save gas

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Re: Pointless laws are pointless

I know.

Thats why I used the false figures of 1 in 100000 percieved to be at risk from autism vs the very certain figures of 1 in 2000 dead from measles....

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Re: Pointless laws are pointless

This is the point James Lovelock made

1 nuclear accident every 50 yrs kills 50 000 people at a time..... global warming kills 500 million due to sea level rise/weather effects

But then its like the MMR vaccine thing where the percieved risk of autism was actually 50 times lower than the actual risk of death from measles.....................

Doctor gave patients the wrong test results due to 'printer problems'

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Re: Birth of a new BOFH

And dont forget the VAT reciept

BOFH and the case of the disappearing teaspoons

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Coffee/keyboard

A late

keyboard death has been reported

Mine.

And my estwhile keyboard replacement cannot be swiped anymore because our production engineer handed his notice in yesterday

The boss did come and tell me, but since I have a good view of the door I managed to shut the laptop in time thus preventing him seeing I was surfing a site supplying bunting and party balloons....

UK's largest water company investigates datacenters' use as drought hits

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Re: Hmm

Quote

"You can't have nationalised water companies, it would be like the USSR with only one single kind of water and no consumer choice."

You like around here where its southern "throw the shit in the sea/river and hope no one notices" water

I cant goto another supplier... I cant goto another disposal company... and if I dont pay , they'll send threatening letters ....

Anyone know a resonably harmless offence that would get me locked up in jail from say october to april so I can avoid the winter heating bill....

NASA builds for keeps: Voyager mission still going after 45 years

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Re: Spacetime

Or would you have preferred the concrete block usually used in such test flights?

Google promises to adjust search algorithm to favor 'people-first content'

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Pirate

You want amusement?

Just type in any medical condition you care to name

On the first page of results you'll get 2 helpful at most, 5 offering cosmetic surgery, 2 offering 'herbal' remedies of an untested potency (and untested ingredients too)and 3 randoms claiming you have cancer and 3 days to live

Software developer cracks Hyundai car security with Google search

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Re: Too difficult

Too difficult?

How difficult is it to follow

Generate key pair

Load private key into decryption module.

Upload module to ECU.

Then when the time comes.... Zip file to memory with public key

Call decrypt, check signing.

Even if I do use stack overflow to copy the code from, I do know to generate my own keypair rather than use the example pair

All this says to me is that Hyundai outsourced the programming to the cheapest job shop they could find and took their word for it that the code was right.

Modeling software spins up plans for floating wind turbines

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FAIL

Re: Rickover rolling over.

Because the instant you mention the word 'nuclear' the green party types explode with more FUD than a m$ press release from the 2000's

Remember we had to remove the word nuclear from nuclear magnetic resonance imaging machines because people saw the word nuclear and went "EEEKK"

UK government lines up billions to refresh legacy tech in 600-system tax dept

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Taking all bets

Crapita or Fuckjitsu

Also side bets of

3 years past due date

5 years past due date

10 years past due date

Along with

'Number of people falsely imprisoned due to IT tax service cock up'

And not least

'How many years before owning up to said cock up after previously telling the courts their systems were perfect'

God I'm cynical

Nuclear power is the climate superhero too nervous to wear its cape

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Re: You fail physics forever

And the safe containment for 239Pu is................... (drumroll) a paper bag. big fat lardy alpha particles can barely make it through a couple of inches of air let alone a paper bag.

Although to be fair one of those foil lined plastic bags you can reseal would be better as the dangerous part of Pu is dust particles coming off, lodging in your lungs/body and those alpha particles would have an easy job diddling with your DNA.

Anyway... have you installed a loverly piece of cornish granite as a top surface for your kitchen........ you are getting more radiation from that than you would living next door to nuclear power station or sellafield's low level waste dump....

Keep your cables tidy. You never know when someone might need some wine

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Re: a long drop into the inky blackness

Still wrong

Proper inky blackness is the chute that ends in the lift shaft... where you've also been dumping that left over toner and inkjet cartridges

Can we have a BoFH icon please?

BOFH: Who us? Sysadmins? Spend time with other departments?

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Devil

You

should always take a good book to these sort of meetings.

Amongst my recommendations is

"The Necronomicon discussed, with experiments for beginners" (get the light leather bound version, you can claim its human skin)

Although nothing in there is as bad as when the new manglement fad is espoused by the bean counters and put forward as THE way forward at which point you propose the game favoured by your PFY "murder in the dark" and it is oh so very dark at the bottom of the lift shaft........

Sleep well all

BT union wants pay dispute talks with telco's largest shareholders

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Re: "We have tried and tested processes...

Quote:

"And there's the rub right there - the shareholders will see that and will be thinking "So, what are we paying these 'engineers' for then anyway?", and fire the lot of them. After all, there's nothing larger than a headcount reduction to ensure a large-scale colleague absence, is there?"

Ahh an idea worthy of "sack all the skilled staff"

Which works fine right upto the moment the shit hits the fan

I heard the story long ago of a company who went down that route, got the skilled staff in to set up the machining cells, then sacked all the skilled staff and hired min wagers to run the cells.

Made a shed load of money for the company right upto the moment one of the unskilled staff changed a broken tool over and put it in the wrong slot.

750 000 quid later in repairs alone plus 2 weeks down time and it was pointed out to the manglers it would have been cheaper to keep the skilled staff.......

Yeah, we'll just take that first network handshake. What could possibly go wrong?

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More robotic mayhem

Or never assume your fellow programmers are as good as you are.

We had a machine with an add on robot.

The robot had its own control program with move commands, gripper open/shut and a wait command that paused the program waiting for the machine to send a signal to execute the next bit of robot code

The machine had 2 commands.... signal the robot to start and........ signal the robot to start and wait for the robot to send finished...

Needless to say I programmed the robot to pick up blanks from the tray and put them in the machine according to the master plan worked out previously as the machine had control of the splash guards and clamping.

My colleague<snarls and glares over the screen> did the machine program, so we both load up the code ready for the first test run.

and hit the big green button.

The sequence was supposed to go

Splash guard open

Robot arm in place to grab part

Clamp release

Arm up /wrist 180 to load blank/arm down

Clamp

Arm ungrab blank and retract

Splash guard close

The actual sequence was splash guard open, unclamp,clamp , splash guard close, arm straight through perspex splash screen, 1st tool comes down and crashes into arm before someone manages to hit the big red stop button.

Post mortum(attentive readers will have already worked out what happened)

My colleague<glares over the screen again> wrote his code and decided to use the 'robot start' command instead of the 'robot start and wait for the robot to finish' command

Needless to say the machine ran through its set of commands before my robot had even got as far as deciding to try putting the part in........... then it tried to put the part in.

Solution(H2SO4..... if only it was that easy....and I could get away with it........) I wrote ALL the robotic handling code from then on

Be careful where you install software, and who installs it

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Re: Linux Bros'

Of course.... its something to look at while you compile your own kernel.......

Need a double troll :)

Strike days should serve as 'wake-up call' to BT's top brass, says union

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Re: Greed

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"lets get a bunch of greedy lunatics that have ALL done the SAME Masters degree and "learnt" the same stuff adn shovel them in to firms across every industry and watch them try to use the SAME useless crap they've learnt and reshape each firm into a carbon copy of what Jack Welch did to GE & what the idiots at Boeing did to Boeing and enrich themselves while the company collapses"

Yeah but so long as the company collapses AFTER they've cashed out... who gives a fuck?

Thats the way they actually think . maximise share dividend , maximise share price, cash out asap.

Oh dear my lousy decisions have put a well respected company down, caused 50 000 people to directly lose their jobs, and 100 000 jobs in the the supply chain to go....... but hey look at my fucking yacht! its like 200 feet long, and has its own dock at both my Bermuda house AND my california house. who gives a shit about plebs on the breadline... and if they cause trouble .. I own 10 congress critters and they'll block any wealth law

Bad news, older tech workers: Job advert language works against you

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This news

is rather like the story about bears shitting in the woods or the pope being a catholic.

A lifetime ago I was merrily earning an OU degree in computery stuff, and was applying for jobs with buzzwords such as concurrency, synchonised, Java, etc etc, because experience playing with robots/machine tools taught you all about programming concurrent applications (and the resulting bangs if you got it wrong)

Didn't get an answer....

However tweaked my CV to leave off DoB, skewls attended, and the first 10-15 yrs of work and magically I had people wanting to talk to me (not many).

The reason why companies want inexperienced younger staff is not about paying them less, or working them 100 hrs a day, its us older workers being able to see through the bullshit the PHBs come up with every day to try and justify their own employment/existence.

Homes in London under threat as datacenters pull in all the power

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And there

was a nice piece on BBC about Hinkley B nuclear power station shutting down because it was life expired (actually about 15 yrs beyond the original expiry date) and the fact it supplied 3% of the UK's electrickery and you really think people might have noticed 20-30 yrs ago that most of our power generation system was going life expired in 2020-2025 and built replacements (wind is crap and solar fails completely at night) which means lots more gas generation as its cheap and quick to build.

Which sums this country up nicely , anything that takes longer than 5 years (nuclear power plant replacement, power cable replacement, trainings loads more doctors/nurses) is automatically kicked down the road by the government as the next election happening and we dont want the next government getting credit for something they've done.

I'll give it 6 months before we'll getting rolling blackouts/load shedding as the french wont send us any nuclear generated electrickery as it will all be needed to power Germany after the russkies turn off the gas supply.

Lapping the computer room in record time until the inevitable happens

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IT Angle

I used

to 'work' for the government... if we had any 'spare' time it was straight down the compressor house and into the little soundproof cabin built inside it... where the poker game took place.... we were government employees and hardly lightly to do anything as energetic as office chair racing ....

Although because we were young and owned 125 two stroke motorcycles... we did clear a racetrack among the machines one saturday.....

"And Boris is approaching the office bend now.. he got the racing line and on the brakes to snatch the lea and who opened the door..."

We only got caught because the smell of burned 2 stroke oil lingered until monday morning.......

Preparing for Skylab: The separate 1972 experimental mission that never left the ground

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The lesson to learn is how many times the manglement dont listen to the engineers.....

Challenger being a prime example of this.

BOFH: Selling the boss on a crypto startup

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Happy

Re: Just remember…

They sure do, especially that dodgy switch on the lift door that seems to detect when the assistant beancounter has come up with a bright idea for making more money that you just know the manglement will implement without thinking about it with the result theres a shed load more work and faffing about for the rest of us.

And then you get the help call from one of the manglers saying the lift does'nt line up with the ground floor again and can you sort it.

Few times up and down the shaft with it and it soon lines up and you learn to ignore next week's complaints about the funny smell thats come back again....

Psst … Want to buy a used IBM Selectric? No questions asked

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Re: Comments to On-Call articles

Betcha the cattle prod went "ominous hummmKZERRRT"

More like "ominous hummmKZERRRTAAAAAAAAAAAAIiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiieeeeeeeeeee I'm reporting you to the manglement and I got witnesses"

To which the rest of the workforce went "We didnt see nuffink" ( although that maybe due to me beaming proudly at the PFY for learning so fast...... and the fact I was lazily flipping a 3lb lump hammer from hand to hand...)

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Re: Comments to On-Call articles

Quote:

"It's the age old natural arms race between idiot and idiot-proof..."

To which the idiot always wins

We got fed up with the operators loading the trays of parts into the robot machining cells the wrong way round(everything from bent fingers to bits of metal fired out of a now bent fixture).

So we had a merry afternoon of painting arrows on said trays, making notices and a spot of training.

this week : spang boing CRASH kerpow tinkle.. yupp operator STILL loaded the tray the wrong way round.

I fed him to the PFY after noticing she had the cattle prod out.......

Chinese booster rocket tumbles back to Earth: 'Non-zero' chance of hitting populated area

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Re: I would say ....

Hmmmm gosport or Basingstoke... gosport or Basingstoke.... the choices .. the choices...

Sorry... much as I hate gosport, Basingstoke gets it by a whisker.

Boris

Hint for our non-UK readers.... Basingstoke is a carbon copy of Milton Keynes.. only without the heart and soul of Milton Keynes.....

Microsoft warns Windows 10 patch broke printing for some

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After all these years

you'd think someone at m$ actually knew about the print service module and howto keep it upto date without borking it.

Then again, if the QC department hadn't of been fired to save money, m$ might have picked it up before the update got out............

A character catastrophe for a joker working his last day

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Re: Do not piss about in prod!

Nope , does'nt work.... they're usually 2 fingered typists anyway... so lopping 4 or 5 off does'nt work.

And in my game, making the sort of mistake that can lead to losing fingers DOES actually mean losing fingers.

Such as taking the safety gate key out of the office to unlock one of the gates while things are in motion just to retrieve an earbud thats rolled under the gate.......without noticing the label on the key that says "Only to be removed from this office by in the presence of Boris"

Infosec not your job but your responsibility? How to be smarter than the average bear

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Re: Not just for the non-pro

Watch the first episode of "The IT crowd" and how Jen gets her job.

Thats how.

Your job was probably outsourced for exactly the reason you suspected

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Welcome to

my world.

Where major customers whine constantly about 'getting it made in China(or another outsourcing country)' because its cheaper. even after we've made the effort to reduce prices and increase productivity.

And then they do goto 'insert country here' and take ALL the work with them .. goodbye 3 shift system.. hello 1 shift with overtime (if you're lucky..P45 if not).

its right royal pita... especially where $multinational then calls you up and says "Can you make XXX part for us? 3000 per week as before oh and as a generous offer we'll knock 10% off the price we were paying before we dumped you"

Upon further enquiry , we found out that their new supplier could hit the production targets , but not the quality targets. so the counter offer went back offering 2 weeks development charge for us to rebuild the fixtures, grippers and recover the programming and then resume delivery at 25% more than we were charging before.

"WE CANT PAY THAT" came the answer...... "How much per hour does it cost to have your assembly line stopped?" we answered.

To be honest at that stage , we were gouging them, and we had enough work (just) to stay in business and didnt care if that deal came through or not.

And as the law of purchases says "Pick 2 of the following 3 options : Price, quality, delivery"

We've got a photocopier and it can copy anything

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Re: That's so stupid...

I wonder if the 2 villians of the peace were named Lord Percy Percy and Baldrick?

British intelligence recycles old argument for thwarting strong encryption: Think of the children!

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Given how

leaky, bug ridden and insecure windows is, I doubt very much the spies/plod/council officials looking for people who let their dogs shit on the grass and dont clear it up* actually need to bother with breaking encryption.

Its us linux types that must be upto no good, using an OS they cant browbeat the creators into inserting a backdoor, being immune to many common problems such as viruses and malware and thus denying them a chance to put their spyware on our machines.

Plus we tend to use full disc encryption and various other methods such as backups to make sure our data is secure.

yes ... find your linux users and its 90% certain they are upto no good (especially the ones that dont pay a good capitalist company for the right to rent their software)**

* this is true RIPA was brought in for exactly the reasons listed, child porn, terrorism ,other serious major crimes.... and was used by councils for such jobs as checking recycling bins, and seeing if parents had sent their kids to the right school....

** wheres the satire icon?

After 40 years in tech, I see every innovation contains its dark opposite

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As exciting as the future

holds, please remember that if in 1982 you told people that you could have a handheld gadget that allowed you to talk to nearly every person on the planet, and contained the sum total of human knowledge that you only had to ask a question about and it would be presented to you, they would never of believed you .....especially the bit where 99.9% of users used it to watch cat videos and call each other rude names.

Botnet malware disguises itself as password cracker for industrial controllers

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Re: 'Engineers may have legitimate reasons for downloading such password-cracking software.'

With violence and possibly a PFY wielding a cattle prod if you did it where I work.