Posts by Ian Michael Gumby

@Eddy Re: @Jake @ yank lurker ... Gun show

Now you're getting in to ballistics.

A 5.56N will tumble on impact not to mention cavitation causing damage. At issue is how much energy is transferred to the target.

W.R.T your hunting round... the expansion will also depend on the distance to the target and the amount of energy. Its very possible at shorter distances that you don't have expansion. Again it depends on the design of the hunting round.

I agree that many do not understand the terminal effect of different ballistics.

A smaller 6.5 bullet used in a 6.5CM compared to the 7.62x51 will have more down range energy, closer to that of a .300WM. ;-)

@J Cook Re: @Redpawn ... Gun show

Bingo.

And of course its not just guns but cleaning supplies, targets, reloading supplies, knives, hunting gear, parts, etc ...

The problem is that many here don't understand what it takes to own a firearm.

In IL you need a FOID card just to be able to handle a gun, or purchase Ammo. Then the Federal background checks.. waiting periods... etc...

In Chicago after McDonald v. City of Chicago, you could own a handgun, however you had to go thru 16 hours of training, which had to be done outside of city limits, take the paperwork to a single police site and get electronic fingerprints. Plus pay $$ for the course and $$ for the permit that was only good for 3 years. I was about to get mine renewed when the CCW law went in to effect and Chicago dropped their permit process.

So yes, its not always easy being a legal gun owner. Especially in Chicago.

@Oengus Re: @ Bush Rat ...But Background Checks Don't Work!

1 MOA at 100yrds = 1 inch.

1 MOA at 900 yrds = 9 inches.

So 18 inch Bullseye is 2 MOA.

Camp Perry is 600 yrds w iron sights for military rifles. (There are other classifications)

As to accuracy, 900yrds is close to maximum range for accurate fire.

W a good bolt action, you can get out to 1000 yrds.

Now compare that to 300WM. Which is accurate out to 1200yrds and beyond.

6.5CM (Creedmore) is also accurate out to 1200+ yards.

Again, I have a .308, mine is scoped and semi-auto but is accurate to 1 MOA.

Its a good round.

.308 is still the standard for police snipers. However, that's changing and for the Military, while the .308 is used (including upgraded M-14s) the next gen is going to be 6.5CM For longer distances you have 300WM, .338s and of course the .50BMG.

If I had to choose between a Surgeon w 5R barrel and in a McMillian Stock in either .308 or 6.5CM? I'd take the 6.5 or a Rem .260

Re: "Gun laws only keep law abiding citizens from owning guns."

A company actually printed a .45 caliber 1911 metal gun on a 3D printer.

Works like a charm and was a test to show that its 3D printer can build hi quality prototypes for real use.

The owner wouldn't say how much the gun cost to manufacture only that it would have been far cheaper to go to a gun store and buy a dozen .45ACP pistols.

So printed guns is more fantasy than fiction. Heck for $220 I can buy a brand new Ruger 10/22 rifle that will out perform any printed gun.

@John Re: @Thom H.@ Bush Rat ...But Background Checks Don't Work!

Yes, that's true. And from the viewpoint of criminals, having law-abiding honest citizens armed, instead of having to wait for police to show up, is not necessarily a good thing.

Clearly you don't live in Chicago.

Did you hear about the woman who was at a bus stop, when a kid attempted to commit armed robbery?

Yeah, she had a conceal carry permit, pulled her gun and shot him... He ran away, collapsed and died from his wound.

There are other stories where law abiding citizens with CCW permits have also defended themselves or helped to stop a crime.

With respect to the Aurora shooting...

1) He was able to get his FOID card because the felony conviction was in a different state and it hadn't been propagated from Mississippi (I think) so it was never flagged.

2) When he went and purchased the gun, again the conviction wasn't in the system at the Federal level.

3) It was when he applied for a CCW that it popped up.

So the first issue is the ability of states to share data with each other and the feds.

Then the second issue... the State of IL never went after him to get the gun he owned. Its not just that there's a lack of funds, but its also a very dangerous task. You never know how they will react.

You seem to also go off on a tangent. Here the guy was going to be fired. He brought the gun in to the meeting and the minute they fired him... he started shooting.

So he had a job.

Re: @ Bush Rat ...But Background Checks Don't Work!

A .308 (7.62 NATO) isn't that good of a round these days... Don't get me wrong. I have an M1A and its fun to shoot, but in terms of long distance accuracy... I've got an old 300WM hunting rifle and a Rem7 hunting rifle both shoot flatter and faster than the .308.

Or you could go for a 6.5CM which looks like a good replacement for the .308 shooting flatter and faster with more down field energy.

The point I was raising was that some of the street gangs also have AKs and AR-15 pistols/rifles that they use to provide heavier firepower than just pistols. But its pretty rare for them to be used. One of my wife's co-worker's son was in the wrong place at the wrong time (A robbery in a drug store) and lost his lower leg due to an AK round. (He spent almost a year in and out of a hospital trying to save it.)

Re: There's a lot more heat than light in this thread...

WoW.

I suggest you read the Federalist Papers and then the writings of Anthony Scalia on the topic.

Also if you want to play Grammar Nazi, learn to read 18th century English.

As others have already pointed out what was meant by a militia meaning any male of militia age.

There's more, but I doubt you have the intellect to comprehend it.

@Ledswinger

First a 10" barrel is an SBR. (That requires a tax stamp)

Second the 5.56NATO is not a high powered rifle.

Now if you look at a 6.5CM or any rifle that requires a long chamber ... you have a high power rifle.

Re: @ yank lurker ... Gun show

Somebody stole it?

LOL... Did you file a police report and report the serial numbers?

Most do. However that doesn't stop the civil lawsuits.

Why wasn't your gun in a locked gun safe? ;-)

Again, sure you can lie but remember a civil lawsuit is much different from a criminal case.

@Thom H.Re: @ Bush Rat ...But Background Checks Don't Work!

Again you really don't know much about Chicago and the fact that between the two Mayor Daleys (father and son) It was illegal to be in possession of a handgun within city limits. Unless you were law enforcement, active military, or an Alderman.

This was true until the SCOTUS case McDonald v. City of Chicago where the Chicago law was struct down. (Then Daley made it extremely difficult to get a handgun. I know because I went thru the process)

Gun laws only keep law abiding citizens from owning guns. Criminals don't care.

@cyberdemon

To answer your question...

Only the sate of IL has what is known as a FOID card. You cannot be in possession or buy ammo without presenting the FOID card.

Other states, you can buy ammo without any checks.

@ yank lurker ... Re: Gun show

The only time you don't do a background check in a private sale is when its to a family member.

That said.. if you are selling to a stranger... or even a friend... you take the sale to the local gun store. Most charge $25.00 that you can add to the price of the gun.

Only an idiot doesn't do this because of the potential liability for either criminal charges or civil wrongful death lawsuit if the gun is used in a crime.

And to your point... the background checks did work in this instance.

The 3D printing... you can do a lot, but you still need certain parts. Also it depends on the caliber of the weapon. Printing .22lr and using metal parts... you may be ok. Trying that with a 5.56 or larger rounds... Boom. No Bueno.

@ Bush Rat ...Re: But Background Checks Don't Work!

You have no clue about the US and its patchwork of gun laws.

As someone who is a legal firearms owner living in Chicago, I can easily tell you about the gun laws in Chicago, Crook County , and the state of IL along with the latest round of stupidity.

I can also tell you the gun laws in IN, WI, OH and AZ. Also SC. (Other states too...)

The issue of gun violence has nothing to do with background checks or the dangerous looking black rifles.

In Chicago... we have had over 500 shooting deaths per year that are for the most part from handguns. (Only a handful of shootings involved 5.56 NATO or 7.62x39mm rounds)

Of those shootings. 99% of the guns were either illegally bought/sold on the street, or passed around through the gangs.

@Redpawn ... Re: Gun show

That's not completely true.

First, if the seller at the gun show is an FFL holder, they must complete a background check. This is the law.

If you're doing a private sale... it depends on the firearm. If its a pistol, you are obligated to check to see if the individual has a valid drivers license for the state. You cannot sell a handgun or purchase a handgun from a different state. Long guns are a different matter.

Also if you're selling a firearm, you want to go to a local gun store and have them run an Federal check and complete the sale. (There's a charge for this, however its minimal considering the alternatives.)

So please get your gun facts straight.

We just had a shooting here in the Chicago areal (Aurora IL...home to Wayne and Garth)

Already idiots are jumping on the gun grabbing bandwagon ...

Re: And here's the kicker...

Actually even convicted felons who have served their sentence may be able to own guns again.

It depends on what he or she was convicted ... So in general yes, convicted felons can't own firearms. but its not a universal truth.

Re: Bad manners...

He may not have even heard his phone ring.

A face time call could be connected before you get the notification. You may not even hear a ding or even notice that your phone is on.

But it would record the event in a log which is easily documented.

@ Donn Bly Re: I guess this is going to be tossed out

Actually we know the meeting was recorded. (It was a deposition.) ;-)

Looks like you did a bit of digging... but just a few corrections...

1) He has a lawyer, even though he is a lawyer. This is done because he lawyer can make statements tat he could not make since he's the plaintiff. (Lawyers tend to 'misspeak' but do not lie. ;-P )

2) Its already a court case. He's filed a complaint with the court.

That said, he'll have to submit an affidavit of his versions of the facts.

If he's caught lying, it could be perjury if they can show intent.

Is it grounds for disbarment? Possibly, but not necessarily.

3) The paragraph about continued harm is verbatim text from a personal injury template. Its there as a way to up the award or settlement. It has no bearing on the case one way or another until he wins at trial or Apple wants to settle.

4) Yeah, we know its going to get tossed. The question is if its tossed w prejudice or not. If not, if he's dumb enough to refile the judge may allow it. As it stands, his complaint is on the surface deficient because he doesn't state any actual harm only the possibility that it could have happened. (Sue your car manufacturer over a defective airbag because you learned that it was defective even though you had it replaced before it caused harm...)

While guys like this shouldn't be allowed to practice law, they do. I know of a lawyer that suborned perjury. Of course I can't prove it. I just know and if I had to, could prove that a person who signed the affidavit did in fact perjure herself but it won't come to that. So that lawyer is still practicing law today.

Apple will not settle. They will get it tossed, hopefully with prejudice. And then they will move on. It will cost them maybe $500 or $1,000 USD by a junior lawyer or their in house counsel.

Re: I guess this is going to be tossed out

The short answer is maybe it will get tossed.

We are hearing about this second hand. Unless we see the actual complaint, we don't know for sure.

That said, on the surface, his complaint is deficient. You are correct in that he fails to show that harm did occur and if it did, his second complaint is how he is further impaired in his future work.

Unlike a criminal case, in a civil case, there is more latitude. Meaning he doesn't have to prove beyond a reasonable doubt but that its more than likely this happened. In a deposition, you have your side and the guy being deposed has their lawyers and either someone taking dictation. (legal court reporter) Or its being videoed.

The first hurdle that we don't see in the reporting of the complaint is that the deposition was in fact leaked.

The second is that there is a reasonableness in that neither party discussed the deposition, and the third is to show continued harm.

I agree that this complaint will get tossed but he could in theory amend it if he can show actual damages and the likelihood that he was bugged.

I've seen lawyers like this and I've seen bad judges actually buy in to their lies.

Apple has deep enough pockets that they can and will get this tossed and could even bring sanctions against the guy.