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Cue the lawyers ... Re: Big Hoodie
Depending on the site's ToS, the fact that FB is monitoring and tracking non FB subscribers may be a violation of the ToS and agreement w Facebook.
Again this shouldn't be a surprise and why many w NoScript block FB scripts.
Of course not all browsers work w script blockers and addons.
This could be a major Class Action lawsuit against FB since none of those who were tracked gave permission for FB to track them.
@Lee D ... Re: Encryption is complicated enough already
Thus building the core of encryption on thousands and thousands of tiny such hashes, it's possible that it makes the number of possibilities so vast, even with instantaneous discovery of every single one, that it becomes infeasible.
I think we're at the stage of Quantum computing where its possible to break some encryption so that its possible to steal BTCs from your wallet. Or bank.
Re: @Bombastic Bob ... The Bank is RIGHT
Gift cards are not a recognized currency, but you will pay cash advance fees for buying them I believe.
I'm not so sure.
I don't buy gift cards and I don't know how the bank would know that you bought a store gift card. THere's a description and a sku that they would have to track.
I guess you could buy a gift card and then see your credit card statement online to see how they describe the transaction. Cash Advances are itemized separately. So tell me how that works out.
As to the idea about buying an item for speculation... you can go in to a shop and buy gold or diamonds or even gold coins which wouldn't be considered currency. (Yeah, how much is that gold dollar, or silver dollar...)
@Bombastic Bob ... Re: The Bank is RIGHT
I agree with what you're saying. However its not that simple when it comes to a court case.
First Cryptocoins are not a recognized currency. That's still up for debate.
Lawyers being lawyers could argue that Crypto coins are not currency because they aren't recognized by the US as currency. Nor are they regulated as such. (There are some lawsuits still out there. )
So its a tough one.
At issue is if the bank unilaterally made this decision without notifying customers. Again, here's the rub. That would be illegal because they didn't notify their customers. (FD, I have an account w Chase I don't recall seeing anything... not that I buy crypto coins)
At the same time... Crypto currencies want to be recognized as a currency, so if they win.. its a step backwards.
My guess... the class action could fizzle. Or settles quietly.
Re: missing the point?
Ask yourself why do many well known sites still use google analytics? ;-)
But overall, none of this should be a shock to anyone.
You are the product. Without you, FB would be nothing.
Unfortunately even if you don't have a FB account, they are tracking you too.
@AC ... Re: @Doctor Syntax ...
Being a monopoly is a legal decision. They almost did consider it a monopoly when it came to the browser, however Microsoft consented and avoided that label.
That said. Amazon is a monopoly if the courts find it to be. And that's an interesting pickle. Some of their business practices on the retail side are in fact monopolistic. So IMHO it could be easier to show Amazon as a monopoly and then force the company to split up. That said... look what happened when they split up Ma Bell in to Baby bells. Some good and some bad. And somethings didn't change.
@ Christian Berger Re: I'd like to have an honest non-marketing answer to the question...
That's relative. Considering that your cheaper hardware is going to be less efficient meaning you're going to have to buy more hardware, larger footprint and more energy.
So it becomes a bit of a toss up and TCO is a bit fungible when you consider all of the issues.
FD, I haven't run all of the numbers so its still a question of which wins out. Also ... IBM's price is fungible. Large players get larger discounts. Tiers from A-J and then some discounts on top of that too.
@Doctor Syntax ...
IBM has kept the mainframe as its sacred cow.
In the converged data center... the mainframe running linux , docker , kubernetes... could be an AWS killer if they get their pricing model down and develop similar tools.
That could be difficult unless Trump's Administration considers Amazon a monopoly and break ups the company.
Facebook crosses off one legal headache, another pops up: Server blueprint theft spat with Bladeroom settled, but...
@AC Re: Zuck will say nothing of significance
Zuck will fall on his sword and say mea culpa.
He pleads the fifth he's toast on the NorCal lawsuits against FB.
He'll tap dance around tough questions. And if the Republicans were smart, they'd nail FB on giving away the data for free to Obama. That's actually against the FEC (election law)
There's a lot that FB has to answer for...
@AC Re: @Ivan 4
Yeah, however the M.2 NVMe does a better job than dual ported SAS.
The point was that it depends on the use case.
Most PC gamer types aren't going to need this.
But if you're doing a mini cluster for work using higher end PCs could keep the costs down.
18 core chips are expensive and then you have to have enough memory to boot.... that's $$$
Building out a tiered storage platform on PCs (i9 chips) could make more sense.
Not going to happen.
Also most PCs maybe have 1 M.2 port, some 2 and a few 3.
For the home PC 2TB of fast storage is good enough.
For those doing real things ... you would want more fast storage and then use SSDs (SATA) for slower storage and ditch HDDs altogether.
Add to this some GPUs w CUDA capabilities and you have a poor man's workshop for ML and AI.
Its a good thing that the M.2 NVMe drives are now more affordable but still a long way to go...
The important thing... this shows how IBM is failing...
When a company outsources to IBM, the current crop of employees are moved to IBM and become IBM employees. Over time, these employees are replaced with lower cost alternatives that supposedly can do the same job.
Clearly this isn't the case, but the the pointy haired managers have their huge bonuses for saving the company money and have long since left the building.
(At least in the US)
This isn't an isolated incident and this is in part why IBM has a sullied brand.
Rometty can shift the focus.... but she cannot change the brand's reputation as easily.
And stories like this only show just how much better it is to keep things in house.
@Updraft ... Re: The 'Shadow Profile' Economy
Which also begs the question... El Reg, why do you use Google Analytics on your site? Google Tag Services?
Its the same thing... FB, Google slurp data from other websites on people who may or may not have an account thus no consent.
How is that going to survive a privacy challeng in the EU?
The Bomb Blast icon is for the idea that EU privacy laws are going to impact many companies in unsuspecting ways...
They don't mention the cost to retrieve the data and xfer it back...
To be fair, you would have to price a competing solution...
You'd have to consider building out a cluster of rack mounted servers with lots of disk. You would run something like CleverSafe (now part of IBM) to get the replication across the cluster. Then you would have to take a look at your sunk cost in hardware, the price of drives and then take that over a 5 year life span. (Warranty for disks and average lifetime expectations.) Cost accounting would let you do an accelerated depreciation model.
Bottom line... if you own your DC already... its cheaper to roll your own.
If you lease rack space? It depends on your lease agreement, but still probably cheaper.
The advantage to AWS is that its 100% an annual expense no need to depreciate the hardware.
If you were doing this for a home office... going with a NAS would be cheaper but you would have to expose it to the internet if you wanted access from outside of your SOHO. Not to mention its still one device, albeit raided drives.
Here's the list of Chinese kit facing extra US import tariffs: Hard disk drives, optic fiber, PCB making equipment, etc
@ Tom 38 You don't get it...
Trump's tariffs ... they went from mega tarriffs to being whittled down.
Want to bet that most of the tariffs go away after Trump starts to talk w NORKS? And of course some other trade agreements.
Trump is an interesting character.
What's silent but violent and costs $250m? Yes, it's Lockheed Martin's super-quiet, supersonic X-plane for NASA
Well, forget Concorde. Lockheed Martin's Skunk Works, makers of the iconic SR-71 Blackbird, was today awarded a $247.5m contract by NASA to build a potential successor: the Quiet Supersonic Technology (QueSST) X-plane by 2022. The 94ft-long airframe has a wingspan of 29.5ft and is designed to fly at Mach 1.4, or 940 mph, at an altitude of 55,000 feet.
That should clear up your reading ... you should get your eyes checked...
That said... how is this a successor to a spy plane that flew many times faster?
Re: @AC ... Re: @AC ... No Shite. RA = Untouchable
Actually its possible.
The issue is that it will either take one SVP to call in a favor, or you have a skill that they really want. I mean desparately want....
I've heard about it with someone I know... but its very rare. And it was a mistake for them to let him go in the first place.
Most friends who got RA'd ended up back within the borg because of an acquisition.
I still have some friends left on the inside, although over time, its getting fewer and fewer. Many retiring or being RA'd For most, the grass is greener away from the borg.
@AC ... No Shite. Re: RA = Untouchable
If you're on the RA list, it would take an act of god to save you. Really two senior VPs have to sign off on it... from what I'm told...
Your managers know when an RA is coming. If they can't protect you... they give you a heads up and recommend you for another job that would be safe.
You're right, you become persona non gratta ?sp?
As someone who left the borg long ago, the grass is greener on the outside.
Don't blame Ginny. She had the vision but could never succeed on the execution. Her senior staff that were heritage IBMers were her downfall. Not to mention they had no clue how to succeed in their new space.
Re: "...a [Lidar] blind spot low to the ground all around the car."
Radar should have seen the pedestrian and bike.
Lidar would have picked up the bike and woman faster and easier than the radar.
Even still the car should have picked up the cyclist well within range of the sensor on the top of the car.
@Boltar Re: "Should've gone with C++ and HTML for their App needs."
I stopped coding in C++ because I was sick and tired of fixing other people's obvious mistakes and piss poor code.
I prefer C over C++, but in terms of coding today... SCALA.
"Google didn't need to licence the Java code, it wrote its own implementation from scratch."
No it didn't. As Andrew points out, they raised an affirmative defense of 'Fair Use'.
What Andrew got wrong is that Google wasn't going to get that piece of paper for free from Sun.
Remember that Sun had a mobile version of Java that required that the company needs to buy a license while the desktop version was free. It was their way of monetizing Java.
Could Google have bought a license from Sun? Sure.
Most likely a cash payment and then a royalty per phone. Would have been much cheaper than what they now owe Larry. But it wouldn't have been free or cheap.
Do you think the Embassy can't block signals?
Sorry but its a gentle push to remind him that its time to go.
Maybe they drug him and claim he was sleep walking out their front door.
@Teiwaz ... Re: It would take a heart of stone not to laugh...
The Americans are not good when dealing with public assassinations.
The Russians however... they are top notch.
Which is probably why Assange doesn't drink tea anymore.
@Bucake Wookie ... Re: It would take a heart of stone not to laugh...
I'm sure you've been to a CIA Black site... ;-)
And what makes you so sure that's where he'll go?
The point is that the fear of the US is only in Assange's mind.
@Mongo .. Re: >... serious aggravating factors.
Doesn't work that way...
At the time of the EAW, the investigation and potential charges were in effect. He hadn't been charged because of a quirk in Swedish law that doesn't allow him to be charged if he's not present.
So he would have faced the charges at the time of the EAW hearings and subsequent jumping bail.
In addition, he caused harm to the Brits in terms of their EU standing along with the additional costs of police time monitoring the Embassy.
So he would probably face the full force of the law on this one.
@AC ... Re: Simple solution.
Yeah the fear of the death penalty is way overblown.
At issue though is why? Posting the leaked files would be shielded to some degree due to the Ellsberg decision back in the 70's. Even without it... it would mean fines and some prison time at most.
Then you have the potential for espionage act. That would mean that Assange assisted Manning in the actual theft. Because Manning got off light... Assange would face at most some prison time.
And yes, its true that if the US wanted him, the Death Penalty would be off the table, not that its really an option in the first place.
With respect to the UK offering safe passage... When they are done with him for jumping bail, he's on a flight to Australia. End of story.
Most like he will not get a suspended sentence since he's cost the Brits a lot of money with extra security around the embassy.
Either way... Assange is in a world of fun when he gets to Australia. They can seize his passport and then he would have a harder time leaving the country. Assuming that the US doesn't request extradition of him from the Aussies first.
@AC Re: While Facebook Container may help a bit, it has limitations.
That assumes you have a FB account. The slurp is that FB most likely has a financial agreement in place to have some of their code running on a lot of site's pages or they convinced the sites to have single auth or tie in to their site.
What's more disturbing...
in 2009 Zuck sayz no sharing period.
2012 Zuck shares w Obama for free. (Which actually is very illegal when it comes to FEC laws)
Not a peep or complaint.
2016 Trump buys data / algos from a company that purchased this from a researcher who got it from FB.
Everyone is complaining.
The truth is that this has been a major issue when it came to monetizing FB.
It seems that the telcos are no longer subsidizing the price of the phones and you're getting in to the true cost of the phone itself.
Re: RE: ArrZarr
If you're capable of building a sustainable base on the moon, then cost isn't going to be an issue because you've already solved your energy problem.
As to the rail gun... you can use anything within the payload. Google Sabot round. At issue is aiming the payload and the payload being a smart payload which can change trajectory because the rail gun can't.
Re: RE: ArrZarr
It depends on how big those rocks are...
The moon is a harsh mistress.
@AC ...Re: This is what could really do Zuckwit and his company serious harm
You are confusing criminal vs civil complaints.
W.R.T criminal complaints... they US Government will charge them and the company will pay out a fine as part of a settlement.
W.R.T. civil... that's where the company can get soaked. Litigation costs will be in the millions before any chance of getting near settlement talks.
What FB doesn't want is for the lawsuits to peel back their operations during discovery. This is when the lawyers get to see what really goes on and how much they know as well as what they do with this information. This is Zuck's worst nightmare.
One other question will also be answered... everyone is enraged at CA getting this data and supposedly using it w Trump's campaign. But what about Clinton and Obama campaigns.
Then there's the research in to seeing if they can effect people's mental state thru what news they filter in their news feed... All of that will come out.
@Roml0k ... Re: This is what could really do Zuckwit and his company serious harm
Grey area. Most likely nothing since they didn't 'eavesdrop' on the call and the US Supreme Court has identified the metadata as not being private.
The real issue is that they slurped data from and about people who did not agree to their T's & C's as well as one other small fact. They could have been spying on minors which brings in a whole nother slew of laws and potential lawsuits.
To your point... they could face lawsuits over the slurping because those who installed the App were not aware of the level and details that FB was slurping.
You can bet there will be some serious big dollar lawsuits against FB.
@SVV Re: This is what could really do Zuckwit and his company serious harm
The data slurp included Facebook app users' interactions with others who are not on Facebook – meaning people who never gave the Social Network™ permission for anything are probably profiled in its data troves anyway.
To your point, yes this could do FB serious harm. If the lawyers can find a lead plaintiff. In the US as well as around the world.
Keep in mind, the fact that FB also has java scripts running on many news sites slurping details about you. This is quasi grey space because you may have allowed your data to be slurped by these sites under the T's and C's of those sites.
This is most likely why Zuck is trying to go all apologetic because they just ended up in a world of hurt.
How would you, as a non user of FB find out what they have slurped about you?
And every company that uses FB scripts will also become suspect.
Its a huge potential mess...
Who needs security?
Yeah, toss in security and see what happens.
@theVogon... Re: Popcorn
Look, lets break this down.
What are the facts...
1) Did CA snarf the data? Or did the buy it from the Cambridge professor who wrote the app that collected the data and snarfed the friends data that wasn't locked down. (And friends of friends?)
2) Trump's Campaign may have used the data and services which were paid for , to CA. So what is Trump's culpability / liability? The answer is none. Of course you should talk to a lawyer because 90% of the news on Trump is negative (which shows bias) . So Trump is clear.
The issue is how did they get the data? Facebook allowed the research to occur and what you have is a breach of contract by the professor who sold his code and the data to CA.
So, depending on the contract, CA could be guilty of somethings (IANAL and don't know UK law) but in the US, could just be forced to delete the data. The Cambridge University Prof? He's in a lot of hot water
CA? Some. Trump? None.
As to candidates using analytics and data? Started with Obama. (In Chicago BTW...) Oh and of course FB was happy to share w Obama...
Just keeping it real.
@tea hound ... Re: Fake News!!
You do realize that FB and Google have a way to tie your alias to your real id?
When you consider that... you're not as hidden as you think.
@Teiwaz, Not even close...
Trump has a keen sense of what people want and what they don't want.
The real reason Trump won was that Hillary was soooo bad as a candidate.
There's rumors that the MSM helped Trump by giving him a lot of free air time because they didn't think he'll win the primary or could beat Clinton in the main election.
The election was sooo tilted in Clinton's favor, its her own fault.
1) Mail Server... she set it up (w Obama's blessing) as a way to avoid having her communication available for FOIA and the Official Records Act. Were it not for Guccifer busting her... she would have gotten away with it.
2) She avoided campaigning in the Midwest. Seriously. Three states went to Trump which was the difference. Clinton was so sure she had them in the bag, she hung out with the rich elite in Hollywood rather than hang with the plebs.
There's more and over the next couple of years, it will come out just how far Obama, the DNC and Clinton went to steal the election. Just ask Bernie.
Seriously... if you're an American, regardless of your political beliefs... A serious set of criminal acts occurred and you should be outraged. This will be Obama's legacy. This will be Hillary Clinton's legacy.
A criminal conspiracy too big to prosecute. Or so they hope.
@AC Re: Fake News!!
Because I don't use FB, does FB have the right to collect and compile data on me?
The question becomes one of right of privacy since I never entered into an agreement with FB to capture data about me, a non user.
So if a friend uploads a photo where I'm in the shot, does that give FB the right to tag me? Track me? spy on me?
That's the real question.
Re: Fake News!!
And you have a Facebook account?
If you read the article... the theft is that the Good Professor got access to the data for Research and that he later monetized the use of his algos and the data gleaned from FB. Its only theft because only FB wants to be able to monetized their data.
Its really not theft but breech of contract, but it sounds better to claim that the company which paid the good professor for the data and his algos 'stole' the data.
There are a few takeaways...
1) Most people on FB are foolish and don't understand that TANSTAAFL and that they are the product.
2) While not theft, it's a question of breech of contract on the Professor's part. The company bought something that the professor had no right to sell.
3) There will be a lawsuit over this... a couple of government investigations that go no where, and most people who had their data used will not understand the fuss and go meh.
Life will go on, and Zuck will still be worth billions because Gruber was right.
Re: He had a life when first doctors merely predicted an early death.
You take an Obit and try to make it political.
While he lost in the genetic lottery and had ALS, the NHS had nothing to do with his long life suffering from ALS.
There were a lot of factors that helped him have a longer life. A lot of it goes to his genetics and his mental fortitude. (Hawkings lived as long as he did because he's Hawkings.)
@Sparty... re- Pan Am
Yes it was the Pan Am building. When I was a kid, I took the flight with my parents and siblings on one of those larger Sikorksky twin rotor units. (The same one that crashed.)
From the building to JFK on an international flight.
To your point... it depends on the city and the type of aircraft and then there's a minimum altitude. It will vary city by city. In Chicago there are only a couple of places you can land so YMMV.
@Peter G. Re: Memories... @IMG
If memory serves... mine had LEDs and I forget the model. We're going back over 40 yrs.
Why play with a calculator when you had computers. ;-)
There was only one real computer magazine at that time (BYTE).
Yeah, lots of toys... unfortunately we fried our boards when we were soldering in the PS cabling.
(It was a cheap learning experience...)
If we wanted a computer game... we had to write our own. Today.... kids just go online, or just buy it.
How many people remember "Hello Sailor" ? ;-)
Mine's the jacket with the HP RPN calculator in his pocket.
Re: Gun fire triangulation by sound
You're thinking of ShotSpotter and there isn't a chance they'll put it on 280. ShotSpotter is used in the hood and the hood alone. Now, the Oakland flatlands, I'll bet there's one on every corner.
Come to Chicago. Its not just for the Hood. Its on most of the street corners these days.
Re: Gun fire triangulation by sound
Shot detection is triangulation.
However it doesn't work or work well in this situation. Depending on the air rifle, getting a sound signature is going to be difficult. On a rifle where the pellet is subsonic there isn't much of a signature.
Even when traveling supersonic the location will be difficult to triangulate.
Plus the stations are static and expensive.
Want to bet that when they catch the guy/gal, the shooter will be a member of Antifa.
@Khaptain ... Re: Use the Trump solution
You need to do a bit more homework.
There are high pressured .35 thru .50 caliber air rifles that can send a pellet with enough force to kill someone up to 200 yrds away. You don't have to 'blow a hole' through someone to kill them.
Do some homework before you post such garbage.
What would happen if they hit the window and cause the driver to swerve ?
@AC Re: Use the Trump solution
Yes they sell pellet guns (air rifles and pistols).
And while many think of them as toys, some of them are more than powerful enough to kill.
Its that type of mentality that should not be present in anyone running projects that have to deal with safety and could put human lives at risk.
@kain preacher ... Re: Bulldozer
No. Not exactly.
In this case they couldn't sue the guy driving the bulldozer. Or the rank and file city workers.
They could sue the company contracted to do the work.
(Khosla would win.)
They could sue the City government, and again Khosla would win and win big. The individual has immunity, the city doesn't. (And their are limits to the immunity)
Immunity would not shield the city because Kholsa could argue that it was a malicious act and it was done to harass him and his family over this legal battle. It would be an abuse of power.
In short it would be the worst thing the city could do.
Having said that... if the fencing was on an easement granted to the city and they needed to do work, or the fence was put in without a permit... it would be different.
Re: To be fair...
AFAIK, the coastal act makes the beach public property. Khosla isn't fighting that. He's saying that the use of his land to gain access to the beach opens him up to a host of liability issues. As well as maintenance issues. (E.g. someone trips and hurts themselves on the path to the beach, they can sue Khosla for $$$.
He puts in a sidewalk, he has to spend $$ to maintain it and again, he has the liability. )
He could sell the land on his own, but he was asking for $$$$$ when it should have been $$$. Eminent Domain would have taken care of this and would have solved it... but it was never done.
Federal law does trump state law, however... even that wouldn't stop the city from using Eminent Domain, or forcing an easement. (Although Khosla is right about the liability issue and potential nuisance suits. )
IMHO he should sell the strip, put up a 30 ft high privacy fence and then call it a day.