1972 posts • joined 5 Mar 2007
Re: Just a beer?
No, you contended that emoji was a word invented by kids with fragile egos and no knowledge of history. You've had it demonstrated to you that this is false, but rather than accept your mistake, you've insisted that you're actually right anyway and that anyone who disagrees with you is also either a safely dismissed child or somehow mentally deficient and in need of your special brand of education (like Jimmy from all those old information films - don't think I'm so retarded that I don't get your sly little joke). Your entire argument is ultimately "I don't like this word that the kids today are using, so I'm going to make shit up to dismiss it and treat anyone who disagrees like they're an idiot".
You're allowed to not like the word, that's absolutely fine, but maybe, instead of patronising and demeaning everyone who disagrees with you and dismissing the more popular word because of "the kids", you could act like the adult you claim to be and accept that your opinion is a clear minority.
Emoji won. It's as simple as that.
Re: Just a beer?
A word that had only existed for a few years at the point emoji was coined.
And your claim that it was "the kids" wasn't ancillary, but central to your entire argument.
"emoji"? That's a bastard begat by kiddies who not only can't remember history and refuse to acknowledge that it exists, they are re-inventing it to suit themselves to shore up fragile egos.
It's fine to not like the word, but all your claims about "history" are bullshit when both words are very nearly the same age, while your constant wank about fragile egos and kids (apparently defined as anyone younger than you who does something you don't like) is laughable.
Re: Just a beer?
This is history. It just happens to be history you don't like, so you dismiss it as "the kids".
Re: Just a beer?
I'm old, therefore an adult is a child and can be dismissed as such.
Fucking arrogant. This isn't a matter of perspective.
The concept of making little faces with text might be more than 100 years old, but the word emoticon is only a few years older than the word emoji. They're both neologisms invented by adults of approximately the same age, but in different cultural contexts. One won the battle for mindshare, one lost.
Cling to your fantasy of the "real" word as much as you like and complain about "the kids" all you want, you can't change this reality. Why not wave your cane at them as well, while you're at it, and complete the stereotype if a bitter old man who refuses to accept anything "the kids" come up with because it's not the way it used to be done, and change is scary and evil.
That's all you seem to do around here anyway.
Re: Just a beer?
You're right, I did, but it doesn't change facts. The man who invented the word was not a kid. The word is imported from Japanese. It has a nearly twenty year pedigree, while emoticon as a word only precedes it by a few years.
Re: Just a beer?
I'd be impressed with a millennial who managed to be more than 30 years old in 1999.
Re: Just a beer?
Hm. Fancy that.
I think that might validate my point even more to be honest. The word isn't invented by "millennials", is the thing.
Re: Just a beer?
Nah, emoji is an nipponism (or a japanese neologism if you want to be picky about it). Emoticons took off over there as a way to quicky communicate ideas over text message, partly because they work well with the prevailing writing systems and partly to fit within the character limits or short messages. The name itself stems from the Japanese love of taking English words and localising them (witness pokémon - pocket monster - and furasuko - flask as two disparate examples). So, just as romanised text became romanji (or romaji) to fit with kanji, emoticons became emoji.
The word was adopted to the west by osmosis, through apps originally written in japan, or targeting japanese audiences, using the term in their English localisations as well.
So less of that high-horse rubbish about the kids today, alright? They know more than we like to pretend.
Re: Pedantry @W@ldo
That's low frequency as defined by the ITU, for terrestrial radio transmissions, which specifies frequency definitions for a very narrow band of the full EM spectrum. In astronomy, everything with a longer wavelength than infrared light is low frequency EM.
That's only the definition for frequences used in radio transmission, as defined by the ITU, which ends below infrared light. In comparison to the entire electromagnetic spectrum they're a low frequency wave. Given that astronomy routinely deals with EM from infrared to gamma and beyond, it makes more sense that they'd define frequencies according to their needs, rather than the needs of terrestrial radio transmission standards.
Because that's so easy when I'm here and the wife is in Scandinavia.
Re: Not gonna touch it.
More money for me, then.
Admittedly, this isn't saying much... but still!
Re: "get" - I'm good
Australia seems to think so.
Re: Are you watching this RCL?
Tell him to flash debian or sailfish. It's a world of difference.
They went a bit crap. I used to have a few domains with them, but after a bunch of unnecessary "upgrades" to their control panel made everything difficult to find, rising prices and an increasing likelihood that t hey'd just straight up ignore technical support problems, I decided to shift somewhere else.
At which point I discovered that they'd made moving domains away from them immensely difficult, as in "nearly tempted to let the things expire and risk re-buying them from the scalpers" difficult.
They were bought out by some company that saw a cash flow with an inbuilt customer base and wanted the money for itself.
Joke's on them I guess.
How well does it handle phone calls with sailfish?
Clean commits are what I'm thinking of
Re: Please no v5, stay on v4.x.x forever?
"Major version X (X.y.z | X > 0) MUST be incremented if any backwards incompatible changes are introduced to the public API."
if linus adopted this, we'd be on kernel version 300 by now
Re: Specific Energy
Coal plant ash contains significant quantities of uranium and thorium (and other heavy metals), which are naturally present in coal.
Jokes on him, I took a self defence against fruit class
Re: I hope Space X aren't deliberately dumping these at sea because it's cheaper to.
More likely they want to concentrate all their resources on testing the faring capture without the distraction of having to land a stage as well.
Re: I'm guessing
Nearly no innuendo, I guess?
Re: Bad example
All true, but when it mattered, he held to reproducibility, empiricism and questioning consensus, all of which is the foundation of the scientific method.
Re: I actually thought of that...
"What I ended up with instead was random room noise activating the thing and running programs, somewhat randomly."
And nothing has changed since.
Wagner would be right out.
Re: Well, actually. . .
Gary Glitter's music is still available on Spotify.
Re: But mah gunzzzz!
No no, they want to keep the guns in the country.
@AC Re: I hope you bought some Ely Gin while you were there
>apparently that damage was done by the earlier iconoclasts after Henry VIII's reformation.
Which just goes to show, you can pick any era you like and someone will be destroying every beautiful thing they can find.
The difference is that the money changers were charging people to buy special temple money that could only be used to purchase animals for sacrifice in the temple. They were emblematic of the corruption of the temple, acting to prevent people from atoning in a place where they should have been free to enter without hinderance. I'm not sure that the church requires a special scrip for sacrificial gin. Not now, anyway.
I hope you bought some Ely Gin while you were there
It's rather strident, but goes well with a slice of lime.
Is the abomination that causes desolation still residing in the lady chapel? Talk about utterly missing the point.
An interesting place, Ely. The Cathedral is rather famous for being lost for several years after the civil war, because the Roundheads kept walking around it. It only they'd missed it a while longer instead of enacting a prototype for the Taliban on its statuary. I have to admit, the sight of that place, so utterly destroyed by small-minded bigots working for an state-sanctioned Iconoclast, was one of the more sobering moments of my life. The fact that we're living through an era where that urge is again trying to infiltrate public life makes me wonder if our species will ever get past the need to destroy everything that diverges from contemporary dogma.
Probably a computer fault. Get the dynamite.
Re: Both sides' extremes are idiots
Re: Odd, very odd
Everyone I know falls somewhere on a spectrum between the two extremes.
It's almost like anecdotes aren't data.
Oh no, he has a different political view to me, he must be a fucking moron.
Re: Call me a cynic....
Not for much longer, I'd wager. Now that oracle has set the precedent that replicating an api is copyright infringement, Google can sue amazon for their play services stand-in.
Re: Fifty shades of tea
I prefer George orwell's view on the matter.
Strictly speaking, you don't need a license for the actual protocol, which is just words sent down a wire. You could write yuppie own applications that use the activesync protocol with one another. The license is to use the protocol with Microsoft services.
Of course, by writing applications that are compliant with the protocol, you are writing applications that may use Microsoft's services, with the implication that they will eventually be used in that way, and so ms will more than lively requires a license from you.
Anyway, the difference between a protocol and an api is scope. A protocol is language agnostic. An api is the interface for a particular language.
Re: Creating APIs isn't easy
An api is a phone book: A list of places to which an application can connect in order to communicate.
Phone books require a great deal of effort to compile and maintain.
They are not subject to copyright protection. Neither should be an api.
Andrew, in your haste to celebrate thus outcome, you are overlooking the key fact: they copied the api. Not code. Not software. A list of function names.
APIs are now subject to copyright. The means by which software interacts with other siftware is now subject to copyright. The ability to develop an api-compatible implementation of a piece if software, in order to compete in an open market, is now subject to copyright licensing.
If i wanted to make an os to compete with windows, that was compatible with windows api calls so that windows exrcutables could run on it, i would now require a license from microsoft.
If i want to build a phone os that can run android aps, i now have to license the list of function names.
I would require a license from my competitor in order to compete with them.
I really don't think you have grasped what is at stake here.
Re: Great article! Security = effort, simple..
If that thing is a pair of shoes...
Re: An open registry of who owns domains is important - SWAT?
French police are notoriously heavy-handed and heavily armed to boot.
Re: Not Good
At least they acknowledged the problem. Could have just told people they were talking to it wrong.
Three already has their at-home roaming package to a whole bunch of destinations outside the eu. It's one of their USPs, one i found particularly handy when visiting the us. I doubt they'll change out post brexit.
Can't certainly say that for the others, but i suspect they love having customers more than anything else.
Which bit is dangerous? The wildcard?
Re: "our contribution to the overall health of the public conversation".
What do you know, turns out it works after all.
@anothercynic the eea only implements a very small subset of regulations from the eu, most of which aren't even generated by the eu anyway, but rather at the international level, such as at the unece, iso or wto. They have none of the requirements for harmonisation of national policies or regulation of internal markets unrelated to their relationship to the eu. The price is that they have less-than-unfettered access to the single market. However they have nearly none of the tariff and non-tariff barriers that a third country faces when trading with the eu and still have freedom of trade policy with the rest of the world.
Had saner minds prevailed, the first words from May's mouth after her appointment as pm would have been "we are switching to the efta and remaining in the eea until we can work out a complete solution". Unfortunately we are governed by idiots who think, as you say, that they can have their cake and sell it to the highest bidder too.
The customs union is a red herring. All that does is tie us to a common set of tariffs and trading agreements with the rest of the world. It says nothing about trade between its members, as turkey found to its cosy when it joined a customs union with the eu. Trade between turkey and the eu faces significant barriers, both in terms of tariffs and quotas, and in terms of non-tariff barriers such as detailed border inspections and shirty customs officials.
The bit that leads to "frictionless trade", as I think the buzzword us now, is the single market. As an EEA member, Norway is a member of the single market, but not a member of the customs union. The result is that Norway enjoys nearly no barriers to trade with the rest of the EEA, but can set its own trade relationship with the rest of the world, rather than being tired to the common customs code of the customs union.
Re: Molten salt ?
No. They hit a small problem of the salt solidifying in the pipework overnight. The salt also crystallises on the exchanger and acts as an insulator. They're a non-starter, sadly.