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Microsoft co-founder Paul Allen has hit refresh on his attempt to bring a patent infringement lawsuit against Apple, Google, Facebook and other tech outfits. Earlier this month a US District Court judge rejected a far-reaching complaint brought by Interval Licensing LLC – the patent arm of Interval Research – against Google’s …

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  1. Anonymous Coward
    Stop

    Just goes to show.

    That even having over $1000 million doesn't stop him being a petty minded little bully.

  2. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Advocat

    It is to be noted that Floraion Müller is an Open Sources activist but not an advocate.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Florian

      On a couple of forums Florian is considered by some to be a Microsoft employee.

  3. The FunkeyGibbon
    Troll

    So... is this patent trolling or not?

    The article isn't clear how valid these claims may be...

    1. ratfox
      Troll

      It is

      The patents are of the type "Any stuff that allows you to do stuff with stuff."

      For instance, one covers proposing a product related to what the user asked for. As in, "Would you like some fries with that."

      Allen should sue McDonald's, they have been saying this for decades... Oh wait.

  4. Giles Jones Gold badge

    Political

    He's not suing Microsoft even though they're likely to be infringing too.

    It all goes to show that this is just a way of trying to slow down and hinder competition to Microsoft.

  5. Wibble

    Some days it's hardly worth chewing through the straps

    Bit different to the normal patent modus operandi - loads of big (US) companies getting together for a chat and all agreeing to do nothing except keep new entrants out of the market.

    Let's hope that 2011 is the year that software patents are finally abandoned. Fat hope of that happening.

    Still, at least it gives the big boys something to do and provides some quantitive easing for the poor beleagured lawyers. Pity it ends up as 'gadget inflation' for the rest of us; a tech tax.

  6. Destroy All Monsters Silver badge
    Alert

    Needs some chemo.

    Patents. They grow on the economy.

  7. Graham Marsden
    Troll

    "claimed ownership of four patents...

    "[...] that have been staples of most websites for years."

    Does this mean he's only just noticed, or only just decided that they're now valuable enough to make it worthwhile suing for...?

    (Patent) Troll...

  8. Anonymous Coward
    Gates Horns

    This is the guy...

    that bought an OS to pass off as his own that was said to be a 'bug-for-bug' copy of CP/M. Now he's patent trolling. What a class act! Has he ever really contributed anything other than this and selling BASIC?

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    2. Ted Treen
      Boffin

      @AC 29/12/10 13:47

      "Has he ever really contributed anything other than this and selling BASIC?"

      Er..no.

  9. John Sanders
    Linux

    My only hope

    Is that maybe 2010 is the year when the software patents problem would spiral out of control and people realize all over the place that software patents need to be eliminated and forbidden as they are a rotting cancer to the industry.

  10. Anonymous Coward
    Happy

    is this the end of the American innovation as we knew it?

    only ~200 years and it is coming to the sorry END!

  11. Bryce Prewitt
    Gates Horns

    Almost, but not quite.

    On days like this, when a billionaire chooses to make a hobby out of having lawsuits thrown out of court, it almost makes you just wish the entire USPTO would go away, leading to a beautiful patent-free technology world where trade secrets and government-protected innovation are secondary to the implementation and execution of ideas, code, interface design, support and innovation.

    It almost makes me dream of a world where the quality of your product is of superior importance to that of your ability to out-spend, out-research and out-lobby your competitors. When you can freely reverse-engineer the products of your competitors, and they can freely do the same to you, its what you create, how you create it and how you continue to evolve your creation that matters most. Industrial espionage is the greatest tool capitalism knows.

    I say I "almost" want these things, because a completely free and unregulated system isn't the answer any more than the flawed and easily abused current system is. The system definitely needs to be more free, and it definitely needs to retain its ability to protect real innovation (of which makes up very, very few software/tech patents), but the real change will come when companies just accept the fact that doing business with the public means their competitor will always try and one-up them, most often by copping a feel of their good ideas.

    As long as you dominate your market position fairly and don't quit innovating then you've nothing to worry about. As long as you respond to changes within the market and to attacks to your success by competitors then you've nothing to worry about. No one wants to be Microsofted, but what amazes me is how often people fail to recognize that, despite the fact that, yes, Microsoft did rip them off, Apple sealed their own fate by being appallingly incompetent. The current patent system encourages late 80s and early 90s era Apple style mismanagement. You could possibly even argue that it discourages real, actual innovation, but I'd say that has more to do with political lobbyists, regulatory bodies and ineffectual/corrupt enforcement of anti-trust legislation. That's a different tangent for a different article, however.

  12. JaitcH
    Unhappy

    If you research 'gesture' technology you will find it predates Apple filings

    Just because someone scores a US Patent doesn't mean too much. With all the big money swilling around smartphone technology, the US courts will soon be a spectator sport that will stretch over several years.

    And make sure you back up your OS in case some code has to be redacted!

  13. Anonymous Coward
    WTF?

    Spam filtering

    Apparently anti-spam protection where you compare new emails against old emails known to be spam violates one of these patents.

    Its a total crock of shit, and it shows that the US Patent Office are incompetent and unfit for purpose - I suspect they just rubber stamp things and take the money and run.

  14. Captain DaFt
    Thumb Up

    Way to go Paul!

    Welcome to America, Land of the "Free To Sue Any and All That Try to Innovate"!

    Keep this type of BS up, and you guarantee that all future development in cutting edge electronics will be done in Asian, Indonesian, and even African companies, where they ignore all the "patent" nonsense of first world companies that'd rather sue than innovate!

    (This really calls for multiple icons, such as "Troll", "Fail", "Flame", and even, "I one one welcome our new, innovative overseas tech masters", but I'll settle for an ironic "Thumbs up"!)

  15. Anonymous Coward
    Go

    What's The Fix ? A Dumb, Minimal Phone Hardware Spec

    MS, IBM, Apple and all the other big corpos could easily sue every upstart in the PC business. But the PC is a very minimalist hardware specification (mainly the x86 processor, some support chips, the BIOS, SATA, VGA, PCI, etc).

    The Free Software Community built Haiku, BSD, Linux and much more around this minimalist specification. If the $$$-community sues us, we will simply distribute Linux in the Samzidat way:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samizdat

    We blatantly copy their trivial patents and innovate in our bedrooms.

    NOW: All we need is the same minimalist Phone Hardware Specification and then give the $$$-community the stinking finger (that's how he call it here in Teutonia).

  16. Anonymous Coward
    Flame

    The Free Phone Starts Here

    http://openbsc.osmocom.org/trac/wiki/BS11

    http://bb.osmocom.org/trac/

    Intercepting GSM now a breeze:

    http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/27C3-Abhoeren-von-GSM-Handys-weiter-erleichtert-1159542.html

  17. Mehh
    Alert

    A hoax?

    The whole things sounds so ridiculously optimistic on Allen's part, I begin to wonder if this is going to eventually play out something like the Cage/Batt dispute 8 or so years ago.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-hampshire-11964995

  18. Geoff Mackenzie

    "technology incubator"

    Cool, another term for patent troll. I'll add that to the pile.

  19. Anonymous Coward
    Go

    Open Source Mobile Telephone Development. Start Here.

    https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/tutorials/l-openmoko/

    Here is the hardware:

    http://www.openmoko.com/freerunner.html

    1. chr0m4t1c
      Stop

      So what?

      Just because it's open source, doesn't mean it would be free from the attention of the patent trolls and it'll have a good deal less resources thrown at it to get around any lawsuits than Android will.

  20. Anonymous Coward
    Thumb Down

    I don't need no stinking title!

    When you can no longer innovate... litigate!

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