HMRC: 30 months to prep Northern Ireland backstop systems, 24 for customs With just two years to go until the end of the Brexit transition period, HMRC has said its preparations for a Northern Ireland backstop could take up to 30 months – once Whitehall has said how the mechanism will work. Effectively, this means there is no definitive date on when it could be operational. It is the latest in a …
I am sure the hard brexiters are saying this will be the easiest computer program ever written.
In reality it will be even worse than the childcare payment system which I believe they started on in 2014, released to the public in March 2017 and still doesn't work for most users over 18 months later.
More likely it will take 48 months to RC then another 24 months to get it working.
I thought for the current extension to end after brexit it needs the EU to agree first meaning it could technically go on forever and our parliament can't do anything about it.
Which when you think about it is a nice way to hamstring Corbyn and his plans if he gets into government as most EU regulations won't allow what he wants to do.
At least that's how I see it. I may be wrong.
Sure, I wasn't backing either side with my comment. They are both as bad as each other.
Interestingly though the DUP has said it will remove it's confidence and supply deal with the government if the Brexit deal goes though parliament forcing a general election. I wonder why they aren't doing it before the vote if they really cared about the ramifications of the deal.
I can't get rid of the thought of Darth Mayder and Arlene duetting this:
It's on and off and on again
Going on and then
Taking all I got again
Bleeding me leaving me dry
You're hanging on for what you can
Dragging out the pain
Taking all I give again
Fakin' it, making me cry
@AC
no that was Plaid Cymru, the DUP (formerly UVF) just shot people.
No, that wasn't Plaid Cymru, Meibion Glyndwr (the Sons of Glyndwr) it was that did the 'come home to a real fire, buy a holiday cottage in Wales' thing. And no-one was ever injured. And traditionally they used "England's Glory' matches.
I smell massive tax evasion tactics coming soon. Followed by tearful reports of fiscal revenue going into the toilet.
Funny, normally the government does everything to ensure that tax revenue keeps flowing, so why isn't anyone getting the ball rolling on this ? What political thing is worse for someone's image than ensuring tax keeps coming in ?
Because that's what it is. This is purely someone who does not want to be seen saying something definitive that nobody will like, so they keep quiet despite the guys at the Tax Bureau going blue in the face over their inability to move forward.
normally the government
The whole divorce with Eu affair is anything but normal.
Actually it is normal in a different way. It is the way politics have become.
In days past governments had to cater for revenue flows and LONGER term electorate appeasing - create jobs, pork of all shapes and sizes.
Today everything is immediate gratification (*) like dealing with a toddler. The reason for this is that EVERYONE of note has a troll mob which manipulates popular opinion for their benefit. Russians have their Internet Research Agency and has used it extensively, UK has its "Integrity Initiative", NATO as a whole had SCL group, etc. It takes less than 6 hours to whip the mob into a frenzy as UK's recent intervention into Spanish politics(**) via II has shown. The government knee-jerk reacts. Again. And again. No wonder nobody is looking at revenue. Everyone is looking to dodge the steaming turds being thrown by the Internet troll mobs orchestrated by the other side(s).
(*)So no surprise that the commander in chief of USA behaves like a toddler
(**)If you are wondering why Spanish suddenly became so obstinate about Gibraltar, it is not Gibraltar. It is using the equivalent of the Russian IRA to meddle into their affairs. UK could use NATO channels, official diplomatic channels or even pick up the phone and call their prime minister directly. It instead decided to use the UK counterpart of the Russian IRA and instigate an orchestrated twitter steaming turd barrage. So no wonder Spanish are suddenly 10 times more obstinate than usual.
... that the civil service will be permitted to start spending money on building systems to support a Northern Ireland backstop scenario - when politically the DUP have essentially been given guarantees that the backstop will never come into effect.
If they see active preparations for this scenario, they will withdraw support and the government will collapse.
Public IT projects tend to be large, complicated and with all sort of legal requirements well as interfacing with legacy systems. They have a tendency to go over budget anywhere in the World, and as the information is public (and there are politicians seeing advantage making sure it is public) we hear a lot about them; much less about the ones delivered more or less on time and budget.
Large private IT projects interfacing legacy systems etc. (and I have been on some) also go over budget and are delivered late. I was on one that should go live in August - which year was luckily not specified. But in the private sector you can be a bit more discrete if things are not exactly to plan.
Quote: "yes, officially our outsourcing to India was also a success"
Indeed - private sector projects can go completely titsup.
I was at Old Mutual Wealth in the early stages of this one for example. Everyone involved (except for the consultancy supposed to deliver it and the Aussie software company supposed to build it) was just looking on in disbelief at the millions being spent with the wrong supplier.
https://www.moneymarketing.co.uk/omw-cancels-contract-ifds-replatforming-project/
IFDS claimed to have an off the shelf platform ready to go . . .
One of OMWs directors was rumoured to have a significant stake in IFDS . . .
Things could have been very different had a Brexiteer been in charge.
The current situation has all been orchestrated in order to produce a deal that is so obviously worse than the status quo that the British public will choose to remain at the forthcoming second referendum.
"Things could have been very different had a Brexiteer been in charge."
Yes there should have been a Brexiteer in charge. But oh yes didn't the brexiteer prime candidate for the job, BoJo Johnston get back stabbed by his fellow Brexiteer Pob Gove. BoJo then burst in to tears and flung his teddy out the pram stormed of in a huff leaving a bunch of no hopers to face down Sturmbahnfuhrer May.
You got to be in it to win it.
"Things could have been very different had a Brexiteer been in charge."
There were brexiters in charge of the foreign office, trade and the department responsible for Brexit, plus half the cabinet, but they still failed. Face facts, it is failing because there is no plan and reality has nasty habit of smacking fantasists up the ass
There were brexiters in charge of the foreign office, trade and the department responsible for Brexit, plus half the cabinet, but they still failed. Face facts, it is failing because there is no plan and reality has nasty habit of smacking fantasists up the ass
Nonsense. The very fact that TWO consecutive Brexit secretaries resigned within the space of six months is a clear indication that the negotiations were actually led by the REMAINER bureaucrat Olly Robbins on behalf of his traitorous boss the Maybot.
Things could have been very different had a Brexiteer been in charge.
That's like saying the reason why we couldn't fly after jumping of the cliff was because we didn't have enough people who really believed that we can defy gravity
Things could have been very different had a Brexiteer been in charge.
David Davis was in charge of the Department for Exiting the European Union. He was so knowledgeable and prepared that he turned up to the very first exit negotiation with four sheets of notes while Barnier turned up with half a truckful of detailed reference material. At the time Davis resigned he had only met Barnier three time in the previous six months, for a grand total of four hours. He never once demonstrated any mastery of the situation or a comprehensive plan for addressing all the problems. He did however spend a fair chunk of time apologising to the Commons Select Committee for claiming that 57 sectoral analysis and impact assessments had been used to form the basis of his approach when in fact they still hadn't been written a year after he first mentioned them.
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Once the Golden Unicorn Delivery System project starts in a couple of months time, everybody in the country will receive their golden unicorn a few weeks later, and the unlimited supply of golden unicorn shit available to everyone will mean that we're all so rich that such petty trifles as tax revenue will become an irrelevance.
well, half the expected total, since the government are still hoping a withdrawal agreement will give another 18 months to recruit the remainder. Funding is there to expand the ports and airports customs areas. Why wouldn't the UK get these things sorted before declaring their exit?
*Paris is puzzled too
with all this chaos and all this ridculous insoluble problems, there MUST be some sort of alternative plan???
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What's that Sooty? Why not just stay in the EU? No, don't be silly. If it was that simple everyone would be calling for that, even the government!
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What's that Sooty? You say that everyone IS calling for that, including pro-Brexit government ministers and ex-ministers like Raab C Brexit? Well! Why don't we all know about this?
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What's that Sooty? Because the fascist owners of the main newspapers make sure it's not mentioned? Maybe you have a point. Good night Sooty.
I got three paragraphs into this and wondered whether anyone at HMRC had thought to run the same logic on the MTD for VAT preparations - where HMRC have missed/delayed every deliverable to date, giving business no time at all to prepare. And looking forward, the much vaunted "delay to IR35 Public Sector Rules rollout to Private Sector" looks like it'll have the same fate; consultation early 2019, draft clauses at L-Day (July) and Final Draft clauses in Finance Bill around November/December 2019, for implementation April 2020. Given HMRC's form for significant revisions between L-Day and Finance Bill (see eg the Public Sector IR35 Rules...) the practical impact for business certainty is that they'll have about as long to prepare as they would have done with an April 2019 rollout...
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