Microsoft promises a fix for Windows 10 zip file woes. In November

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> or, heck, just uninstall the OS and have done with.

Back in the day people said "the software required Windows 95 or better, so I installed Linux".

"over 50 per cent of commercial devices were now on Windows 10."

Not sure exactly what they mean by "commercial devices". The photocopier? The coffee machine in the office kitchen? 50 per cent of the staplers? Are computers that dual boot Linux / Windows 10 counted as 50 per cent on Windows 10, or only if booted into Windows 50 per cent of the time? Perhaps 50 per cent of computers in the office that sneakily upgraded themselves to Windows 10 before we could stop them all?

Im not quite sure how things wire up but it it was gzip that was barked it may have actually broken the internet

If we're talking about search

"You really want a shiny new Windows Search"

In the realm of search, I'd just be happy if the one in Windows 10 actually worked right. As it is, it's so bad that I can't use it at all and use third party search applications instead. Much like what I'm doing with zip files now.

"The most notable feature in the new version is an improved Windows Search which, in shades of search engines of old, spends a while indexing every folder and file on the PC in what Microsoft claims is a “one-off” process."

Can the user specify to not have their search terms sent to Bing as well?

When I used Windows, I used Everything for search. It's a high bar to reach, and even if MS reaches it, they'd just be reinventing the wheel.

Clueless in Redmond

If there is a serious bug, fix it toot suit even it means a feature upgrade gets pushed back. Users have lived without the new feature so an extra couple of weeks or months wont be a big issue. A serious bug is a major issue.

ZipGenius or 7-zip works better.

Microsoft is on a slippery downhill.

Updated search....really?

In the age of solid-state disk (and NVMe is now a 'thing'), having an indexer regularly indexing everything is not something I need or want. If I need to search everything, it's a much smaller price to pay than when storage was round, brown, and spinning.

Great new search feature!

I expect that not only does it index your entire HDD (taking a mere 10 hours during which your PC is too slow to be used), but it saves the index to "the cloud" so it is never lost. Also allowing anyone else + dog to search your HDD without your knowledge, even if your PC is not switched on. Handy for when the wife wants to buy you some porn that you've not seen. You can easily turn off that feature by going through 15 menu items that don't appear to be in any way related, instructions for which are clearly documented in 6-point type halfway down a 10000 line document on an obscure page of the Microsoft web site. Hidden beneath a pop-up EULA. But it switches itself on again after every update (and if you sneeze a bit hard).

Release fixes, not features

There's nothing wrong with releasing quickly when your target is an application with one or two entry points and very defined behavior. Operating systems need to be tested a little more carefully, because while your average phone user will just reload the app and web user will just hit F5 to bring your app magically back to some safe state...you can't really do that on an OS.

I highly doubt anyone is listening to average users about patch quality, but if they were they'd hear that these users aren't interested in new color schemes, 3D paint or HoloLens support. I feel Microsoft should slow down on feature development and target their inability to release fixes that work across all situations.

how is MS warning users?

Through some document buried on their website that you only see if you're specifically looking for a solution to that issue? Or are they proactive and giving users a message every time they open a zip file? Somehow I think it's the former, in which case, what 99.985% of people will never see it until it's perhaps too late or something?

Not that this affects me, mostly Linux and my Windows stuff is 7 only. I find it quite depressing how all of these complaints about windows 10 quality are falling on deaf ears. Not unique to Windows either of course. At least with Linux it was possible for(example) a group of folks to fork Gnome 2 to make MATE(which I use), and have been maintaining it ever since.

For me anyway very little(if anything) has come out of Windows or even Linux in the past decade that has gotten me excited.

Little victories

I don't use windows a lot, but I have an application that requires it to run, which I'm running on an old laptop running windows 10 (it only has to run this one application and a tiny script that sends the data somewhere else, so it needs little processing). I was working next to it yesterday and had inadvertently awoken it. About two minutes later, a message came on the screen. It read "We can't install some updates. Click here for more information". That message made me happy for several minutes.

My favorite thing about Windows 7 Search...

...Is that even if you turn the option off, specify that it search no locations, and delete that index dbs, the service will still randomly start and churn away on your drive FNAR, it just won't store what it finds (as you've deleted the dbs).

To truly kill it, you have to disable the service, which will either vanish the search box on the Start Menu plus the upper right of Explorer hence making built-in searching impossible; OR it will have no obvious effect other than making search faster and more accurate than with the indexer running.

Dir a.b /s

The only way to get search to work is to open a cmd prompt and type DIR.

Perhaps they should drop the name "Windows" and call the OS something descriptive like "DOS"

Windows 10

The Fattest Suicide Note in HIstory.

Search?

I don't want anything searched, I want it found. Can't somebody write a "Find" tool? And while at it, please find some intelligence (and not of the military kind) in Redmond.

Does this fancy new search comb through deleted files too? That'd be useful, essential even

"You don't want fixes. You really want a shiny new Windows Search."

Actually, we don't want either of these. We want an OS that just works silently in the background without interfering with the jobs we're trying to get done.

Just like we want applications that are easy and intuitive to use and don't keep intruding themselves on our work.

The entire IT industry has forgotten that it only exists to serve the user - not to educate, indoctrinate, convert, 'drive change', or even to 'secure'. That one's the biggest joke - any vendor that has to provide fixes for exploitable bugs every month for the entire life on an OS or application taking it upon itself to implement 'security' on our behalf without our involvement or consent.

Only de facto monopolies can get away with this.

To make search faster, why can't the search just read the filenames from the MFT? As far as I know all files are listed there and should be able to be read quickly.

some options

They could consider putting a UI on grep and the ability to just do a dir *.txt /s via a pretty UI... the current windows search is frankly crap and I do not know how it was ever possible to make either of the above commands as slow as windows has managed.... for heavens sake if you have done some indexing thats usually supposed to improve speed, windows indexing appears to make for a very very very very slow search after it has spent literally months tossing around indexing.

Really MS go and learn how to code, get rid of the shit, stop arsing around with c# and do it properly. Go back and look at OSs like CPM (where dos came from), dos, drdos (like dos but ran where it was not from a copy), nucleus or dare I say it linux (not a linux fan if I am honest)... then learn that windows is a crock of shit and you need to write a proper os

I only want one feature from Windows Search...

Allow me to disable results from the 'web. That is all I want. Seriously.

For actual, real file-search, I use Agent Ransack which, amazingly, happens to be faster than any version of Windows Search, ever, and doesn't require an always-on indexing service. I only ever use Windows Search for start-menu search (autocomplete, basically) and the fact that the slightest typo sends you to Bing, requiring the tedious launching of Edge which I never otherwise use, is the most annoying thing.

Of course, it seems like there's a 20% chance that you'll end up on Bing even without a typo which is also extremely aggravating.

(Now some "Klugscheißer" is going to reply, telling me that you *can* actually disable web search, rendering this comment false. Please do! Call this a comment-gambit for useful knowledge. Any minute now...)

Interesting

When reading the Microsoft post of the zip file issue I found this of note :

"Microsoft is working on a resolution and estimates a solution will be available in early November for this issue."

The year in that statement is suspiciously absent.

Does ths mean....

that people are going to get massive .EBD files on there PC's? No such an issue on a machine with a 1TB drive. Might be an issue on say an tablet with a 128gb SSD. I certainly don't want my drive space being eaten by an ever increasing search catalogue database....

Unfortunately....

....as SatNav has made the company big profits, nothing will change any time soon because all the share holders care about is profit.

All I want back, is the pissing ability to decide when I do the updates, not for them to be rammed down my throat by SatNav.

13 years later. . .

Win 10 shiny "new" search?

spotlight OSX 2005

lol

Everything..

Voidtools "Everything" is vastly superior for searching in almost every way.

On a clear disk you can seek forever

Fastest way to search a disk is if it has nothing on it. That's how MS is speeding up search.

Wot, you thought the "improvements to search" and the 'random, accidental' loss of files were separate????

Also.. 19H1 - wasn't that the ID of some sort of nasty virus? No? Oh. It soon will be then.

>>The problem only affects extraction using Windows’ own File Explorer.

And who in their right mind would ever use that....?