How the hell did USPS let that happen?
Chap charged with fraud after mail for UPS global HQ floods Chicago flat
A man is facing charges of theft and fraud after the mail of parcel delivery service UPS was redirected to his home address. Dushaun Henderson-Spruce, who lives in a one-bedroom garden apartment in Chicago, allegedly began the scheme back in October and wasn't rumbled until January this year. According to The Chicago Tribune …
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Friday 11th May 2018 21:05 GMT Anonymous Coward
How could UPS let it happen? Simple, by ignoring the form letter from the USPS.
In 2004, ebay lost its ebay.de domain in a similar way
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Friday 11th May 2018 13:27 GMT SVV
Re: Place your bets
Seeing as it would be pointless sending a letter to you at your old address asking if you no longer lived there once you have moved out, it probably had a tickbox and the new resident ticked the "yes, that guy no longer lives here" box and sent it back. Although that would be only one of the many flaws in their system if that is the case, judging by the rest of this highly entertaining story.
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Friday 11th May 2018 14:58 GMT JimboSmith
Re: Place your bets
Actually the Royal Mail do send a letter to the address you're diverting from to check that if you have requested it. They don't give the address details of the divert but you are urged to contact them if you didn't ask for it. My housemate set one up before she moved out and I received a letter to the occupier stating that her mail was being diverted.
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Friday 11th May 2018 15:17 GMT JimboSmith
Re: Place your bets
I worked for a department in a medium sized company that provided services to other firms. As a result of the letters being addressed to my department the post room delivered them to me. I'd open them extract the cheque inside and deliver it to the finance team personally. One day when doing this I said I was thinking of changing my name by deed poll to the name on the cheque and opening a new account at the bank. The cheques were for enough that I could probably have bought a nice little place in the country with just a few of them. The girl in Finance said after one had gone missing they'd have investigated and I wouldn't have even got out of London to view properties.
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Friday 11th May 2018 18:15 GMT Anonymous Coward
Re: Place your bets
"I worked for a department in a medium sized company that provided services to other firms."
Our large IT company used to let developer departments buy their own things - including MSDN subscriptions.
Then it was decided that all buying should be done centrally to get better deals from suppliers. The result was that no one received their new MSDN licence even though their department budget was debited. MS said that they had authorised them all to the purchasing department address - and no they wouldn't give us a duplicate.
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Friday 11th May 2018 12:53 GMT adam payne
Henderson-Spruce submitted a change-of-address form that requested mail addressed to UPS' global HQ, at 5 Glenlake Parkway NE in Atlanta, be sent to 6750 N. Ashland Ave – his Chicago home.
Why would you use your own address for a scam like this? Surely it just makes it incredibly easy to catch you.
According to the United States Postal Service website, when someone fills in a change-of-address form, the postal service will mail a letter validating the move to the original address – it's not clear what happened to that letter in this case.
They didn't send the letter, it went to the new address or someone at UPS rubber stamped it.
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Sunday 13th May 2018 18:21 GMT Jason Bloomberg
Why would you use your own address for a scam like this? Surely it just makes it incredibly easy to catch you.
It offers a level of plausible deniability; "no one would be so stupid as to do that".
Putting doubt in the mind of a jury as to guilty intent may work if one did "just let it all pile-up in the hallway" but after cashing cheques it's really not very believable.
He obviously didn't get the memo; let it pile-up, cash-in, ship-out quick.
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Friday 11th May 2018 13:10 GMT Pen-y-gors
I'm amazed
No-one at UPS thought it strange that they hadn't had any mail for weeks / months? Or did the redirect only include generic 'UPS' addressee, and not mail for specific named individuals? I believe when you redirect mail in the UK you (sensibly) have to list each name that is to be redirected.
Still odd that the local postie in USPS thought to query this
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Friday 11th May 2018 14:45 GMT Fatman
"""Fake""" address changes.
That IS a problem in the USofA - false change of address requests. It is the easiest way to steal another persons identity. In fact so easy, that unless you are diligent about a sudden decrease in your mail volume, you may not notice, like UPS didn't.
I really wish the USPS did not allow such internet originated address changes. Perhaps the USPS ought to hold such changes in abeyance until it receives a written confirmation that the addressee did, in fact, make the internet request. How fucking hard is that!???
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Friday 11th May 2018 16:18 GMT jelabarre59
Re: """Fake""" address changes.
I really wish the USPS did not allow such internet originated address changes. Perhaps the USPS ought to hold such changes in abeyance until it receives a written confirmation that the addressee did, in fact, make the internet request. How fucking hard is that!???
Ummm... We ARE talking about a government agency here.
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Saturday 12th May 2018 16:28 GMT Anonymous Coward
Re: """Fake""" address changes.
The problem is not everyone plans moves well (or even has a chance if they are evicted) so being able to personally receive & verify a confirmation letter from USPS isn't always possible. If they refused to change one's address without it, a lot of people would never receive a lot of their mail (and identity theft is no doubt made easier when you receive something for an old addressee like a credit card offer)
Many years ago I thought that postal service should allow people to sign up for a personal ZIP code that you could update with USPS. Instead of saying you live at 22 Wall Street NY, NY you'd give your address out as 29357025725 or somesuch. When USPS receives a letter with a personal ZIP they have a computer system that tells them it is 22 Wall Street and sends it there. When you update it to say you live at 33 Rodeo Drive in Beverly Hills CA everyone would keep using the same personal ZIP but it would go to your new address.
For bonus points, you can have more than one, sort of like email where you have a few throwaways you use for signing up to web forums, which you can simply stop using if it starts getting spammed too much. Moving is currently the way to stop snail mail spam (and only to a new house, otherwise you get the previous occupant's spam)
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Friday 11th May 2018 18:37 GMT Nate Amsden
more secure online I guess
I just did a USPS change of address again a few days ago though I did it online(did two more 2 years ago the process was the same). Service requires a credit card:
"Safe and Secure Safeguard your information with ID verification by a simple $1.00 charge to your credit or debit card"
I haven't tried to use a credit card that wasn't assigned to the original address, but assumed they verify the billing address(maybe they do not - but even validating the name alone should of failed the check if they are redirecting for a corporation). I guess they don't do this extra validation step when doing in person forwarding at the post office itself?
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Saturday 12th May 2018 12:10 GMT Pascal Monett
Agreed, that is an egregious lack of due diligence on the part of the bank. UPS should sue.
This whole story is just jaw-droppingly unbelievable. If it were a film we would all be criticizing it for total lack of realism. There is not a single person in charge at any level of this operation that employed any actual use of brain cells. It's rubber-stamping galore all the way.
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Friday 11th May 2018 20:47 GMT Gene Cash
USPS "will mail a letter validating the move to the original address"
Hell no, they don't! In 50 years and a dozen living addresses, I've never gotten such a letter, either at the old address or the new one. Nor have any of my roommates or friends.
Lying sacks of shit. He pulled that straight out of his ass.
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Wednesday 6th June 2018 19:00 GMT Cyril
No motivation to stop it
When someone at the USPS noticed they probably just laughed and let it go. When someone is messing with your biggest competitor, why try to stop them?
It would have been better to send it to a nearby abandoned property. Just mow the lawn and do a bit of hedge trimming to make it look lived in. Cash the checks into a corporate account and transfer to an account in the Caymans. Then bounce it to an account in Ireland and send it to another corporate account, pay taxes on it and withdraw the cash. When they catch on and move the mail back just stop going to the abandoned property. Nothing links it to you.
Of course if you did get caught you would also face money laundering charges, but after thousands of charges of stolen mail, it's not like they can give you any more time. FYI, it's 10 years for each piece of stolen mail. If you don't upset the judge it will probably be concurrently, but if the judge doesn't like you it can be consecutive time and you can end up with tens of thousands of years.