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A study into the effect of the internet on professional sex workers has shown the online world keeps them safer, happier in their job, and more able to weed out creepy customers. Researchers at the universities of Leicester and Strathclyde in the UK interviewed 641 courtesans – with a roughly 80/20 per cent female to male …

  1. John Smith 19 Gold badge
    Unhappy

    So the internet's not just made for pron.

    It's also made for sex.

    Yeay.

    I'm betting this is what Government Ministers really mean when they talk about "The gig economy."

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: So the internet's not just made for pron.

      Don't you mean "the gag economy"?

    2. macjules

      Re: So the internet's not just made for pron.

      Wonder how many @parliament.uk addresses are on that list. Judging by the antics in a certain club of a few days ago, I should think quite a few..

      1. ravenviz Silver badge

        Re: So the internet's not just made for pron.

        On a side note I'm always surprised how many people use their work email for private communication, mixing it all together. There are plenty of free online email accounts that people can use, not even if they have anything to hide, just to keep work and play separate.

      2. macjules

        Re: So the internet's not just made for pron.

        Glad to know at least one political scumbag reads El Reg, hence the thumb down!

    3. lglethal Silver badge
      Trollface

      Re: So the internet's not just made for pron.

      "I'm betting this is what Government Ministers really mean when they talk about "The gig economy."

      Well the gig economy is designed around the worker getting shafted, so...

  2. Halcin

    Cue the screaming abdabs by the PPPs*

    *Prig, Prude, Puritan.

  3. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Where are these websites? I searched for an escort once and ended up with a cortina.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      My "Escort" turned out to be a Cougar...

      1. ravenviz Silver badge

        I got an old banger

    2. DNTP

      I got a destroyer escort, but I think that's because of too much playing "World of Warships" and because historian geeks basically have no lives.

    3. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      "ended up with a cortina"

      ... was Nina in the back?

    4. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Could have been worse, you could have ended up with Cortana!

    5. gd47

      Definitely could have been worse.. could have been a Ford Pubic. Made from old Corsairs!!

  4. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Who knew that not being forced into face-to-face negotiations would be safer?

    Write it down and ignore it.

  5. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Gee Dee Pee (on me) Arr

    There are going to be some interesting GDPR considerations for that database. Who owns it? Is there a right to be forgotten? Who do you send a SAR to?

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Gee Dee Pee (on me) Arr

      This is why you have an anonymous email address...

    2. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Gee Dee Pee (on me) Arr

      UKNSWP

      Reg. Co. No. in England: 5734365

      Reg. Charity No.: 1122461

      They will be the data controller and the SAR would go to them.

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        1 thumb down

        Is the thumb down from someone who is on the database?

    3. Wedgie

      Re: Gee Dee Pee (on me) Arr

      That would be an interesting examination of the Legitimate Interest concept

  6. Anonymous Coward
    Gimp

    Yep erm......the internet is not full of weirdos, pervs and potential murderers.

    Craiglist or grinder anyone ?

    1. Ken 16 Silver badge
      Trollface

      not disproportionately so, aside from El Reg fora

    2. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      So is the real world... but I guess it depends on your definition of what is weird or perverted

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      2. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        >So is the real world... but I guess it depends on your definition of what is weird or perverted

        Armin Meiwes

        1. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          He was a computer repair technician so he was already half way there.

          1. Anonymous Coward
            Anonymous Coward

            Clearly the person that downvoted me has never been nor never known computer repair technicians.

            I do chuckle sometimes at people.

  7. MrXavia

    Makes sense to me, prostitution is a profession that will never go away, so the more that can be done to protect both the client and the worker the better...

    Although this black list does remind me of the companions black list in firefly...

    1. Prst. V.Jeltz Silver badge

      "Prostitution is legal in the UK, but not in a brothel or via a pimp."

      I did not know that ...

      ...I'll be in my bunk

      1. leaway2
        FAIL

        "Prostitution is legal in the UK, but not in a brothel"

        And yet there was a weekly TV documentary about one in Leeds(?). Plod should watch more TV.

        1. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          "And yet there was a weekly TV documentary about one in Leeds(?). Plod should watch more TV."

          Sounds to me that provided the women were there entirely voluntarily, it's something the Plod would do well to ignore. Policing should be purely about reducing harm, and I don't mean harm to the susceptibilities of the control freaks that like to get into office.

        2. Graham Marsden

          @leaway2

          The Leeds Tolerance Zone operates with Police knowlege, however the BBC 3 "documentary" has been strongly criticised by sex workers for its allegations that most women got into prostitution because of drug habits instead of the need to make money because of government Austerity.

          https://www.rt.com/uk/364310-sex-prostitutes-bbc-documentary/

      2. Ian 55

        That "Prostitution is legal in the UK, but not in a brothel or via a pimp" is somewhat misleading.

        In England & Wales, prostitution is indeed legal and it's only the people owning or running (or allowing on property they control or assorted other things) a brothel who break those laws: both clients and prostitutes there are still behaving legally.

        Similarly, when it comes to agencies, it's just those running them who are 'controlling prostitution for gain' and thus behaving illegally.

        (There is an offence of paying for sex with someone who is coerced, but as far as I can see, no-one's ever been charged with it.)

        Despite those, there are plenty of brothels and escort agencies. Why? The police have better things to do, such as dealing with street work (where soliciting both ways is illegal). If you don't annoy the neighbours, some forces will invite brothel owners onto a committee to discuss how to run them better rather than charging them.

        Scotland used to be more or less the same. When all its police forces were combined, the one in Glasgow - which hated prostitution - ended up in charge and so they've done things like harass people working legally.

        Northern Ireland has made buying sex illegal, as a pointless bit of gesture politics. Hurts the people it pretends to protect, but makes the law makers feel happy.

        I don't claim sex work law makes sense. Especially as no money need be involved for somewhere to be a "brothel", just more than one person being sexual with a variety of others.

  8. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    This isn't news, there have been these sorts of things around in the escorting world since it discovered the Internet in the late 90s. I set one of these things up in 2001 or thereabouts, the girls thought it was an excellent tool, much better than the ones they usually had to deal with :)

    1. TRT Silver badge

      Brings a whole new meaning...

      to Multi-User Dungeon.

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: Brings a whole new meaning...

        The graphics are better for one...

  9. Cuddles

    Not so bad

    "Over a third of those questioned got online threats in the last year"

    That's about par for the course on the internet. Which is actually pretty bad if you stop to think about it, but at least prostitutes aren't particularly worse off than anyone else in that regard.

    1. Nick Kew

      Re: Not so bad

      "Over a third of those questioned got online threats in the last year, primary from people threatening to expose them to their community."

      That kind of threat is usually called blackmail, and it's not necessarily a threat at all ("publish and be damned"). Not in the same league as Jack the Ripper.

      Any idea how many prostitutes suffer from blackmail, compared to the numbers who make money from blackmailing their own clients? I guess that's not the kind of statistics anyone has readily to hand!

      1. Graham Marsden

        @Nick Kew - Re: Not so bad

        "That kind of threat is usually called blackmail, and it's not necessarily a threat at all "

        Really? There are sex workers who have been forced to move home by landlords who have found out what they are doing and demanded free sex. Even worse, some landlords are now offering "sex for rent" to vulnerable tenants who can't afford to pay or find other places to live.

        Similarly there been people sacked from jobs because some prodnose has decided to "out" them to their employers (even if the person is no longer actively working in the sex industry).

        However the number of actual examples of sex workers being convicted of blackmail of their clients over the past few years can be counted on the fingers of one hand.

  10. spold Silver badge

    >>an independent escort providing BDSM services. "If you didn’t have that internet … everything would have been underground and everybody would be scared."

    As a result only five per cent of workers said they had been physically abused in the last year, although online abuse was fairly commonplace. <<

    I'm guessing all the BDSM customers have been abused (much to their satisfaction).

  11. Potemkine! Silver badge

    Real perversity

    In a series of prosecutions online marketplaces have been shut down and their owners prosecuted, and this trend seems likely to continue despite eh detrimental effect on the lives of sex workers

    Repeat after me: "sex is bad, violence is good. sex is bad...."

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