back to article Indian data leak looks to have been an inside job

The government authority in charge of India's billion-records-and-counting Aadhaar biometric identity database, the Unique Identity Authority of India (UIDAI), has suspended 5,000 officials from accessing the system. As we reported yesterday, a journalist for the country's Tribune newspaper wrote of her ability to access …

  1. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Indian IT at its finest

    Badly designed, badly managed, insecure and data open for exploitation and bribery.

    So a standard Indian IT delivery then.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Indian IT at its finest

      Badly designed, badly managed, insecure and open for exploitation and bribery

      So standard Indian shit then.

      TFTFY

      BTW I'm 2nd gen British Indian

    2. Adam 52 Silver badge

      Re: Indian IT at its finest

      Badly designed and badly managed are not unique to India. Neither is insecure as countless stories here attest. Bribery happens everywhere. As for exploitation, how do you rate passing NHS patient information to Google?

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        "Badly designed and badly managed are not unique to India"

        No, but often you can trace those systems being outsourced to India anyway...

    3. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Indian IT at its finest

      >Badly designed, badly managed, insecure and data open for exploitation and bribery.

      I think a lot of Talktalk users would happily agree with that statement.

  2. Pascal Monett Silver badge

    Corruption should be counted as a capital crime

    Managing a country where corruption is rampant is a very messy and frustrating job. Those officials who profited by selling access are holding their country back from proper progress in the name of personal gain - while their situation is likely far from being worthy of pity.

    I wish the Indians the best of luck in clearing that up and creating a generation of officials who actually abide by the rules and understand that they are the guardians of their country's progress.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Corruption should be counted as a capital crime

      Not doubt they can bribe the police to avoid conviction

    2. wayne 8

      Re: Corruption should be counted as a capital crime

      This is one reason India is going cashless. To stop untraceable cash bribes. The other to increase tax revenues.

      Less Corruption. More Tax Revenues. Win Win.

      1. cb7

        Re: Corruption should be counted as a capital crime

        The bribes will simply move to those who can "tweak" the system to their advantage.

        Cashless just means the currency is now electrons and not paper notes.

        In a perfect system, movement of those electrons would always leave an auditable trail. In a corrupt place, electrons will mysteriously appear & disappear conveniently.

  3. netist

    Ball is in UIDAI's court

    UIDAI cannot shrug off its responsibility here by saying, "provide us the evidence or we assume nothing serious happened"... Come on, its the data for 1billion people, which is made accessible in 500 INR. It contains information such as cellphone numbers, addresses and email ids of all the people. This itself is enough to escalate the issue.

    UIDAI takes credit for labeling itself the largest biometric and identification system in the world. In the same vein, it also has to take hits for the wrong-doings.

    One thing is for sure, people are discussing and watching, whats going to happen next.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Ball is in UIDAI's court

      So you're suggesting that they should just take a newspaper hack's word for it and launch off into investigating "stuff" with no evidence of what, if anything, was compromised? You clearly have a higher opinion of Indian newspapers' journalistic standards than I do of British ones.

  4. handle bars

    The weak link will often be inside people who can be paid to gain access. With India's costs so low compared to other countries the cost to criminals to gain such access is more likely. when you have a huge database that will become tempting. It is one reason western countries that have data protection fines should "inflate" them by the multiple the company saved by moving their processing off shore. As for this case, the benefits of huge databases do not seem to be balanced by the risk of data breaches. Until they are safer personalised data should be silo'ed in tiny amounts as "big data" has not yet shown it needs instant wide access to "everything" but criminals & foreign competitive countries have shown they love it.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      "With India's costs so low compared to other countries the cost to criminals to gain such access is more likely."

      They also have fierce competition by people for such jobs. They have a problem whereby the system offers jobs only to those with paper qualifications - and the number of apparently qualified applicants far exceeds the number of jobs on offer.

  5. Blotto Silver badge
    Big Brother

    A bit like civil servant access to uk systems like the PNC

    In the past coppers never thought twice about looking up friends, colleagues, partners, kids partners etc on the PNC, yes they where told not to misuse their access, but things where different then and no one really took that type of misuse seriously. I for one am glad of the top down change in sentiment.

    When you have a system with so much data with the need for so many humans to have random access to any of it there will always be opportunity for misuse, with the main thing that prevents misuse being trust in your staff.

    the real problem, of course, will come when a new government comes into power and decides to use data in that DB to treat a subset of India differently to the rest.

    We've seen it before and we'll see it again, sadly.

  6. Doctor Syntax Silver badge

    The risks in a system such as this are similar to those in any other centralised system holding sensitive data. Explain to me again why it's a good idea to have a government key escrow system for encryption.

  7. Martin Gregorie

    Cheepnis

    Don't forget that 500INR is roughly 6 quid. Sounds like a pathetically low cost for corruption, even in India.

  8. Anonymous Coward
    Facepalm

    "it wanted her (and the Tribune) to help identify who was selling Aadhaar access"

    Forcing journalists and newspapers to reveal sources is exactly one of the ways to hinder the freedom of the press...

  9. BebopWeBop

    Might be low - but if the volume works (and all those high value European users must be worth something) then money will change hands

  10. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    outsourcing me

    thing is have all our records been sent there in some sort of uk government outsourcing deal with on the surface safeguards and security but in reality to facilitate easy access for anyone in the world making a fast buck out of the database?

    Personally I would not be suprised and was very nervous a few years back when I was divulging personal info to a dept in bangalore when going through a recruitment process for a us company.

    Some things should be off limits for going out of the uk and I dont want to know any of their flippin details either.

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