As they're finding out already in a pedophile case, the vulnerability will be disclosed during discovery so that criteria should be part of the process right there.
FBI's iPhone paid-for hack should be barred, say ex-govt officials
The FBI's purchase of a hack to get into the San Bernardino shooter's iPhone should not have been allowed. That's according to a new paper from two former US government cybersecurity officials, Ari Schwartz and Rob Knake. In their paper [PDF] they dig into the current vulnerability equities process (VEP), disclosed in 2014, …
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Sunday 19th June 2016 10:51 GMT Destroy All Monsters
Well if Herr Trump takes over there won't be a discovery phase at Gitmo for all the Muslims and then Democrats.
Cheap liberal demagoguery.
Is he going around threatening to FEMA-trail illegal undesirables and bleeding heart "bombing you hurts me more than it does you" Democrats?
No he isn't.
Though confused, guy's is probably less bad than Hillary, a rancid neocon zombie and pathological liar.
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Saturday 18th June 2016 08:36 GMT Paul Crawford
Indeed the discovery phase and details of the data gathering are essential. After all, if the police have hacked in to my computer to gather evidence, how can the jury be sure they did not plant it there?
I'm not saying such techniques should be banned, but there must be proper rules for the use and full traceability of the actions and method presented at the trial so both sides can be sure the evidence is valid.
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Friday 17th June 2016 22:44 GMT Jeff Lewis
Re: Good for both, Goose and Gander.....
No.. government law enforcement agencies are allows - with a warrant - to use exploits in the process of investigating a crime - in very specific and controlled ways.
But nice straw-man argument you've got going there. I recommend going out and testing in the real world.
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Friday 17th June 2016 22:10 GMT asdf
stupid government
Real smart. One of the societies most dependent on technology and probably the most vulnerable as well, government thinks its a good idea to keep zero days secret to attack the bad guys because of course the bad guys will never learn or fight back. Yeah because asymmetric warfare in cyber space will go so much better for us than it does in real life.
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Saturday 18th June 2016 11:33 GMT Anonymous Coward
Re: stupid government
Govt (like any big organization) is a confederation of tribes pursuing differing goals and frequently incoherent to the point of civil war and only ever united by an external threat like dropping budget cuts. So it may well be the stupidest thing all week for the nation but got a swell bonus for that team...
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Saturday 18th June 2016 16:25 GMT a_yank_lurker
Basic Problem
The problem is too many TLA ferals want the ability to spy, thinking this is an excellent substitute for old-fashioned pavement-pounding while sitting the local donut shop. Two major problems with intercepts; context of the message and completeness of the message. There are numerous, well-known stories about intelligence information suffering from both. A good example of this is shown in the movie "Tora, Tora, Tora".
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Sunday 19th June 2016 10:58 GMT Destroy All Monsters
Re: Basic Problem
A good example of this is shown in the movie "Tora, Tora, Tora".
Some would say that said message was suspiciously delayed, and General Marshell suspiciously not on his post at the time, being out doing horseback riding in spite of being fully aware that the Japanes Embassy would deliver a certain note at 07:30 Hawaiian Time. Luckily the aircraft carriers were not in port, eh?
Meanwhile, serious policing is serious: Dude Writes ‘ISIS Beer Funds!!!’ in Venmo Memo, Feds Impound His $42 Transfer
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Monday 20th June 2016 21:51 GMT JCitizen
BAAH!
As long as they have permission from the courts, having an exploit doesn't bother me - this will motivate the OEMs to review their code better next time! I was dead set against forcing OEMs to put back doors in, or forcing them to crack the phone either; but HEY, if there is a discoverable exploit, they are at least doing us a favor by giving a heads up. I don't feel they need permission to keep it secret either. Did Bletchley Park tell the whole world about breaking the Enigma code? Of course not! That kind of competition, is fair in love and war!
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Tuesday 21st June 2016 12:50 GMT Anonymous Coward
No problem
I have no problem with the FBI or any other agency buying exploits, as long as agents do it with their own personal funds and don't get reimbursed.
Maybe the reason they keep missing opportunities to stop the enemy is that their real investigatory skills have been allowed to atrophy, what with their leadership becoming so enamored of high tech tools that (falsely) promise "more for less". All of this is more about middle managers and government "executives" seeking to be heroes at budget time than a serious effort to get the job done.