SQLite creator crucified after code of conduct warns devs to love God, and not kill, commit adultery, steal, curse...

SQL

>select * from pantheon where existence = "proven"

0 rows returned.

Prayer?

I recall one of the key points of The Rule of St. Benedict was the prayer cycle. Are contributors required to attend Lauds and Matins? Every day? Sleep deprived programmers. Oh joy.

Bedroom rules

What goes on in your bedroom between consenting adults is your business, no matter how distasteful others may find it. And as a self-professed liberal, I have a moral obligation to defend your right to continuing doing what ever it is you want, but that doesn't mean I can't ask you to keep the fcuking noise down. These guys have a closed shop development group so if they want to indulge in superstitious rituals, it makes no difference to me whether they use agile scrum, group hugs or Benedictine Christianity, as long as they keep the doors closed.

Joking aside, I thought that code-of-conduct post was... unworthy of drh. He is responsible for so much good software — not just SQLite, but Fossil (which I secretly prefer to git but, shh, don't tell anyone) and its ancestor cvstrac which I still use on some old personal project, among many others — which he has released under very generous licencing conditions. It comes across as smug and dismissive like, you know, that Pharisee in the parable praying ostentatiously in the synagogue, "cheers, God, for not making me like the rest of these losers!"

Not Open Contribution

If SQLite is written by a group of friends who are not seeking other developers to share their load, then indeed one can't complain that what has happened violates other people's rights. Also, the article did note that they're willing to make exceptions for people who feel uncomfortable with parts of the code of conduct.

None the less, I think it's entirely legitimate to react to this as a joke in extremely poor taste.

If one removes the rules in that list that are explicitly religious in nature, or which are appropriate to members of a monastic order, there would not be all that much left.

However, that being said, I would have no objection to a Benedictine monastery releasing open-source software. The shock is largely at unexpectedly finding something that one would have expected to be a secular institution adopting non-pluralistic values.

Do we pray?

As I recall, the Rule of St. Benedict was pretty strict on adhering to the prayer cycle. Are SQLlite contributors expected to attend Lauds and Matins (and the other six, plus Mass) every day? Do tell...

No laughter?

The God bits don't bother me, but why should there be for example

54. Speak no useless words or words that move to laughter.

Also the

17. Bury the dead.

is not so relevant in today's society, where bodies are handled by specialists. I guess this was not the case in St Benedict's day, so he exhorted monks to take care of stray bodies in the gutter.

Re: Trump has become more deranged

muricans. they keep exporting their insanity over here too.

Works for me

What are they going to do, reject my zero-day bugfix because I dress immodestly?

"But that would put me in the position of editing and redacting Benedict of Nursia, as if I were wiser than he."

Always good to recognise your limitations.

Also, are the people reacting to a code of conduct ("which has included a wave of aggressive responses accusing Hipp of un-Christian behavior") with abuse really that blind to irony?

Even serious, it still is a joke

CoC being set to something that offends many is great irony. Doesn't have to be intentional to be a joke.

It's all BS just to excuse actions against somebody later on like policies and procedures. They are used those in power against whomever and the masses are more likely to blow it off if it is done referring to some static document nobody memorizes or reviews... unless it upsets too many and then a policy debate ensues but still results in less harm than just saying, "I am banning X because I hate them and I'm in charge, not you." It's a political trick we all fall for too often.

To be perfectly fair, the world would be a much better place if everyone followed the bits of the Christian tenants of behavior that don't actually require being Christian. Heck, even just the universal adoption of the golden rule (which actually exists in most religions in some form, probably because it's so freaking obvious) would make the world a far better place. And I really don't think that's such a big ask for an online community made up of adults. Though, perhaps he should have made it a bit more clear that he was copy-pasting a religious text and that the more spiritual or worshippy bits of it could be ignored.

And before anyone goes off on me about how awful Christians can be, it should be mentioned that of the several hundred "Christians" I know only a handful actually live up to that standard of behavior. Most Christians just....don't. The ones who do are extraordinarily pleasant people.

Some folks are worthy of exclusion because they are flaming idiots, so the new SQLite (is that supposed to mean SQL Lite or Light?) CofC seems to have outed them. For that we should all be grateful. I read the full code. There is nothing offensive in it, and the rules, although difficult to adhere to, are all reasonable. Opposition to them is only revelatory of the extreme ill-liberal biases of the critics.

Quote from the article: "While it may make some uncomfortable to be faced with religious screed while maintaining software,

Really Kieren? This CoC is a screed? I'd say a little bias is showing.

Is anyone else reading 'CoC' as Call of Cthulhu?

I should record this in my journal.

As an atheist, I find this code of conduct completely unacceptable...

...oh, wait, no, no I don't.

I don't care one way or the other, actually.

Much ado about nothing...

...but I think he’ll now be crucified by the Fundamentalist Atheist online pitchforkistas.

CoC is a PITA

Codes are a right PITA

SQLlite is too Religious, CC is to SJW, Linux is too short (Be excelent to each other)

I'd go with a modified version of Matthew 22 37 and 39

You Shall value stability and security of $project with all your heart soul and mind

You Shall do nothing to others you wouldn't want them to do to you.

Never mind all this God stuff

I object to the "Be not drowsy".

What exactly are you supposed to be after pulling an all nighter because a project "nearing completion" is going to be demonstrated to clients tomorrow and the twatty management bod only bothers to mention this in passing as he's putting on his coat at the end of the day.

Other words come to mind - livid and homicidal for instance - but I'd settle for status equals drowsy and a gallon of tea and a pack of Garibaldi...

CoC Updated

Maybe the CoC was updated since most of the foregoing discussion here the past 2-3 days, but it is now based on the Mozilla Community Participation Guidelines , and the original is identified as "more of a Code of Ethics of the Project Founder" - i.e. personal value system, and pretty much moot for this discussion:

https://www.sqlite.org/codeofconduct.html

They do have this "request" at the end of the "About" web page:

"We the developers hope that you find SQLite useful and we entreat you to use it well: to make good and beautiful products that are fast, reliable, and simple to use. Seek forgiveness for yourself as you forgive others. And just as you have received SQLite for free, so also freely give, paying the debt forward."

Note the use of the verb "entreat", which Merriam Webster defines in the primary explanation as "to plead with especially in order to persuade".

They ask "pretty please", and that's about it.

Chauver's Monk

"The reule of Seint Maure, or of Seint Beneit,

By cause that it was old and somdel streit

This ilke Monk leet olde thynges pace,

And heeld after the newe world the space."

Because the rule of St. Maure and St. Benedict was rather narrow, this same monk allowed these old things to lapse and adopted the modern world.

If the Rule of St Benedict was considered to be out of date in the 14th century by an English civil servant, how out of date is it now?

I am not a Christian, but (with the exception of $DEITY) these are some damn good rules to follow.