Red panic: Best Buy yanks Kaspersky antivirus from shelves

Is that like the RFID in our £1 supplied by ISIS?

Re: Meh

"I have one literally next door. I haven't been able to buy anything I needed from them in several years."

That's nothing! MS are on the Interwebs which is as good as next door. Haven't been able to buy anything I needed from them in several years either. Not that I'd want o give them any money since the GWX fiasco.

Re: Meh

Same with Staples and Walmart. Their websites have tons of stuff but unless you need printer ink or a phone case or a basic router you are shit out of luck. It's pathetic how little these huge companies stock. Hell if I'm buying online then I'll go amazon and get a decent price because the only reason I'd use Staples or Walmart is because I want something now, not 3 days from now and these stupid companies are becoming more clueless every year. Online is not the future, its for when you can't find it nearby and we will then shop the cheapest and not the online version of the store that will not keep something on the actual shelves.

Re: Despite there being no concrete evidence to indicate that the security software is a threat

Well, it depends who you are. Kaspersky Labs do actual research and are the ones who unearthed the Equation Group (NSA) and provided most of what we know about Stuxnet. So yes, there is evidence that they are a threat... if you're American Intelligence. ;)

Re: Classic whisper to reality campaign

"I guess they just HAD to go because they didn't support US efforts to plant malware"

Remember how BlackBerry lost US carrier support when it turned out their business encryption wasn't crackable?

Re: It's a good job this Kasperksy guy seems a good egg.

"In what way is Russia hostile to the Yanks?"

Report for retraining, gospodin.

Russia refuses to follow the US lead on oil and gas. So does Iran. That's basically it. And it was Putin who scuppered the attempt of the US oil industry to take over the Russian industry during the Yeltsin years (he even jointly wrote an MSc paper on extraction resources) which has made him a US hate figure.

Re: It's a good job this Kasperksy guy seems a good egg.

As I have said before here, I met him personally and I think I have a fairly good read on people (part of my work).

In my opinion, if there *is* someone dodgy happening at Kaspersky I deem it unlikely that Eugene Kaspersky would be involved or that he would tolerate it..

The Kaspersky business has been pretty much around from the early days of Microsoft Windows (for obvious reasons), but I'd trust them more than Microsoft, a LOT more. That doesn't I can't make a mistake, but for the moment the story of Kaspersky really being a threat simply does not tally with the facts and the personality involved. It lacks body, it has the thin feel of a campaign.

Re: Can the US of A ever BE

Negligable, although Korea has no trouble labelling them as such in the latest round of debate...

The Jackboot of the American "imperialist" truely know's no bounds!

It's impressive that it's reached that stage though and enjoyable watching there obvious reaction to the wording, "Communist" party - "communications" and information dispersal system with distributed hetrogenous cluster's, you dont like "communism" that's OK I get the feeling they dont like you much either.

Re: Counteract stupidness or it will spread

"Ban McAfee, Norton, Fortinet and Webroot and play them at their own game."

You should ban the first two regardless of their country of origin.

Re: Counteract stupidness or it will spread

Ban McAfee, Norton, Fortinet and Webroot and play them at their own game.

You can add MessageLabs to that, even the so-called "EU only" version, and I've caught Microsoft services too (in the worst possible place: a government setup). But hey, that's old news :).

Re: Counteract stupidness or it will spread

"I wish the EU would ban American software that sends data over to America which most the world see's as a hostile country, at least in the way of it's government and it's actions. "

I'm American, and I see the American government as hostile, both to myself and to the rest of the world. Not sure how any thinking person could really see it otherwise, really. They're not hostile to foreigners and friendly to Americans, or even to other American government agencies; they're just hostile, period.

Re: Bounty

"Why would they need to examine documents while checking a computer's functions?"

They don't... it's an end run around the Fourth Amendment's prohibition of unreasonable search and seizure. The courts have concocted this "expectation of privacy" standard to determine if a government action is infringing on a person's Constitutional right (hint: If it's in question, the answer is "yes"), and they've decided amongst themselves that when you bring a PC in for repair, you expect that it's normal for the repair people to go rooting through your stuff. That means there's no "expectation of privacy," they say, so to bring your PC in for repair is the same as giving consent for a government agent to have a gander at all of your personal stuff, even though you brought your PC to a Best Buy, not an FBI field office.

Government agents don't consider the Constitution to be a limitation on their powers, as it is intended to be. They see it as an annoyance that necessitates a series of procedural games that have to be played to pretend they're in compliance, while they actively and deliberately attempt to subvert every protection it has for ordinary people (and in full view of everyone). The Constitution says "no," but law enforcement agencies and the courts see a little asterisk by the "no," and they get to write the footnote at the bottom of the page that goes with it (and the exceptions they grant themselves are hundreds or thousands of times longer than the Constitution itself).

You can't lawfully have government agents randomly going through people's stuff to see if they broke a law; the government is required to have enough suspicion of a specific person committing a specific crime to satisfy a judge, who will then issue a search warrant. The very idea of that makes the petty tyrants bristle, so they wrote themselves a *footnote: if the people don't have an "expectation of privacy" in a given setting, then the government agents can do whatever they want (even though the words "expectation of privacy" never appear in the Constitution at all).

It's a tremendously convenient ability to have a roadmap of how you may "legally" violate the inviolable rights of anyone you wish. It's good to be the King.

Re: What a turn round

Amusing to see the hard left Dems taking up McCarthyism and checking for reds under the bed.

There are no "hard left Dems" in Congress. The Dems are a center-right party, by world standards. So Congress has only "center-right" and "extreme right" wings.

Re: What a turn round

Amusing to see the hard left Dems taking up McCarthyism and checking for reds under the bed.

There are no "hard left Dems" in Congress. The Dems are a center-right party, by world standards. So Congress has only "center-right" and "extreme right" wings. The US has been drifting right since the 1980s (it never has been left).