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A hard drive containing the unfinished books of Terry Pratchett has been destroyed by a steamroller, in fulfilment of the late author's last wishes. The works were crushed by a vintage John Fowler & Co steamroller at the Great Dorset Steam Fair, ahead of the opening of a new exhibition about the author’s life and work. It is …

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        1. Tom 7

          Re: I'm touched by the weirdness of this request...

          As an anal retentive I'd recommend reading them in chronological order. You will be heading back to read the first two anyway so why not enjoy them without the expectations the later works will give you.

          The Colour Of Magic is a great book anyway and the Light Fantastic a bit better but these are just the blue touchpaper but it you know there's a firework display coming up then fizzing blue touchpaper is rather captivating.

        2. I ain't Spartacus Gold badge

          Re: I'm touched by the weirdness of this request...

          The nice thing about all the literary references in Pratchett is that he was far more well-read than I am - but there's sometimes a lovely sense of recognition as I come across something that I already know from a Discworld novel.

          For example, I'm pretty sure I read Witches Abroad before I read Hemingway. There's a little 2 page parody in there that I only got when I read 'For Whom the Bell Tolls'. Which is also a great book by the way, but ever so slightly less cheerful than anything written by Sir Terry.

        3. Triggerfish

          Re: I'm touched by the weirdness of this request...

          The first two were definitely more pastiche but if you have read a lot of fantasy books they are still worth a go. They don't truly stand up to anything after Mort though.

          However they did introduce me to Fritz Leiber so thanks Sir Terry for that as well.

      1. IHateWearingATie

        Re: I'm touched by the weirdness of this request...

        I wouldn't start with Unseen Academicals or Raising Steam, two of the last Discworld series as I'm not sure they are as good as the others. Felt like he was losing his bite, particularly in Raising Steam *ducks and runs for cover*

        Hard to pick a favourite, but I would probably start with Guards Guards and then follow the Commader Vimes focused ones for a bit.

        1. Kernel

          Re: I'm touched by the weirdness of this request...

          "I wouldn't start with Unseen Academicals or Raising Steam, two of the last Discworld series as I'm not sure they are as good as the others. Felt like he was losing his bite, particularly in Raising Steam *ducks and runs for cover*"

          Personally I'd add "Strata" to that (happily, very) short list - vaguely Disc World related and an attempt to explain how Disc World came into being, but it doesn't really fit with the rest of the series.

      2. Daniel von Asmuth
        Angel

        Re: I'm touched by the sanity of this request...

        Frank Herbert has passed on, but his son Brian continues the Dune saga.

        John R. R. Tolkien saild to elevenhome, but his son Christopher continues to edit his work.

        Isaac Asimov left the planet, but other authors continue to expand his Foundation series.

        Now consider what Pratchett wrote about death....

        1. Alien8n

          Re: I'm touched by the sanity of this request...

          @DVA There are other examples as well of books finished or continued by other authors. Robert Jordan's Wheel Of Time series was completed by Brandon Sanderson for example. However they all have one thing in common, they wrote straight sci-fi/fantasy. As much as it pains me to say it, no one else could write Discworld the way pTerry did. You only have to read his collaborations to see that he was at his best with his Discworld books. Good Omens is the only one that comes close to capturing that magic, but then Neil Gaiman is rather special as an author in his own right as well.

          That's not to say we've heard the last of the Discworld though. He left an awful lot of source material for his daughter to adapt for film, TV and games.

      3. Rafael #872397
        Pint

        Re: I'm touched by the weirdness of this request...

        OP here -- thanks for all the suggestions! I've checked and there are translations of several Pratchett books to Portuguese (for the young kids), and a good selection of e-books too (for me, eyes are not what they used to be).

        Thanks again!

      4. TheVogon

        Re: I'm touched by the weirdness of this request...

        That's a pretty good way of deleting your browser history I guess...

      5. JeffUK

        Re: I'm touched by the weirdness of this request...

        Start at the beginning and carry on until you reach the end.

        The first few are a bit amateurish, but there are so many in-jokes and references in the rest you'll miss out If you don't read them.

      6. cortland

        Re: I'm touched by the weirdness of this request...

        It almost doesn't matter; each stands by itself, but the development of his writing over the years, and the complexity of their combined plots, suggests that a deeper appreciation might be had by reading in chronological (copyright age) order.

        Some of his biographical work explains how he wrote (and how he thought), and may profitably be read before diving into the ocean of his words.

    1. AndyS

      He ensured that in this new no-disk world, there will be no new disk-wold.

    2. Steve Evans

      Indeed.

      It made me sad, and smile, both at the same time.

      Although the PTerry was such a well known techie geek, I find it hard to believe he trusted his hard work to a single lump of spinning rust... and an IDE connected lump of spinning rust at that!

    3. TheVogon

      I bet VOGON could still get data off them!

      The company not the alien obviously....

  1. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    A man is not dead while his name is still spoken ...

    There was a sad inevitability to this, although it's good to see that PTerry's final wishes are being respected.

    I guess a firkin great steamroller is rather more .... theatrical than a hard-disk shredder (plus, in the latter case I imagine there wouldn't be much left to exhibit)

    1. Aladdin Sane

      Re: A man is not dead while his name is still spoken ...

      According to the BBC, the steamroller didn't do all that much damage, so it was put through a stone crusher afterwards.

      1. Stevie

        the steamroller didn't do all that much damage,

        Should have given all the "to be crushed" things to that mad Finn infesting YouTube with his hydraulic press.

        Not much survives contact with him, not even paper.

        Of course, there will be a backup that somehow survived so the "estate authorized" travesty monster can be released again.

        1. Captain Scarlet

          Re: the steamroller didn't do all that much damage,

          Hmm I was that where the paper being crushed exploded (I have no Youtube here)?

    2. Lee D Silver badge

      Re: A man is not dead while his name is still spoken ...

      A man is not dead while his name is still spoken.

      Indeed.

      All my webservers still give out the X-Clacks header on requests, or whatever it was called.

      1. Aladdin Sane

        Re: A man is not dead while his name is still spoken ...

        It's this.

        El Reg still puts out the overhead I believe.

        1. TimR

          Re: A man is not dead while his name is still spoken ...

          "El Reg still puts out the overhead I believe."

          Indeed they do

          HTTP/2.0 200 OK

          Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2017 12:45:21 GMT

          Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8

          Cf-Railgun: 99375e10e7 0.41 0.145329 0030 e6be

          Vary: Accept-Encoding

          X-Clacks-Overhead: GNU Terry Pratchett, Lester Haines

          X-Reg-Bofh: PFY01

          Server: cloudflare-nginx

          CF-RAY: 3967d8c2dfe33822-ATL

          Content-Encoding: gzip

          X-Firefox-Spdy: h2

          1. Aladdin Sane

            Re: A man is not dead while his name is still spoken ...

            And Lester Haines? Exalted company indeed.

            1. TimR

              Re: A man is not dead while his name is still spoken ...

              I noticed Lester when I copy/pasted it, but forgot to mention it

              Looking again, we've also got BOFH & PFY

              Wondering if I can get away with tinkering with our proxies now.... The only time I've done something "slightly unprofessional" like this was to use the HTTP 418 (I'm a teapot) code to flag an unusual non standard condition

              1. Aladdin Sane

                Re: A man is not dead while his name is still spoken ...

                In my prior job I had a couple of PHP web applications that included the clacks overhead. Made no difference to the lusers, and was far from the least professional thing in them (prefixing all error codes with PEBKAC was probably the least professional thing).

          2. IkerDeEchaniz

            Re: A man is not dead while his name is still spoken ...

            wget --save-headers --output-document - http://www.theregister.co.uk

        2. Prst. V.Jeltz Silver badge
          Thumb Up

          Re: A man is not dead while his name is still spoken ...

          I hadnt heard of the gnu / clacks thing before. Beautiful . What better memorial could there be? especially as he thought of the idea himself , and it was honored by armies of techie fans around the world. Those dictators with 50ft gold statues can go suck it - they'll never get the GNU!

        3. cosymart
          Angel

          Re: A man is not dead while his name is still spoken ...

          They do indeed and Lester Haines is included :-)

        4. Flere-Imsaho

          Re: A man is not dead while his name is still spoken ...

          "El Reg still puts out the overhead I believe"

          Indeed they do. And there is a Firefox extension that displays the text in Clacks code wherever the page contains that tag; I can see it ticking away as I type this.

        5. Alan J. Wylie

          Re: A man is not dead while his name is still spoken ...

          El Reg still puts out the overhead I believe

          Indeed. Lester Haines too. I just hope the FF extension keeps on working with Multiprocess and WebExtensions

        6. Martin-73 Silver badge

          Re: A man is not dead while his name is still spoken ...

          @ Aladdin Sane, yes, yes they do still put the X-Clacks-Overhead header as "GNU Terry Pratchett" on all El Reg articles. Yes, I have the extension, Yes, i notice when it becomes active :)

      2. illuminatus

        Re: A man is not dead while his name is still spoken ...

        mine too

  2. JimC

    I wonder

    You can quite understand the author not wanting some half arsed slung together lash up of his old work, but on the other hand it would be nice have a little bit more. To my mind though the last book shows distinct signs of having needed another revision by the master's hand, so would I really truly want to have things that were even less complete against his name?

    [well if I'm truly honest, I suppose the answer is that I don't think they should be published or made public, but *I* would like a copy]

    1. Teiwaz

      Re: I wonder

      I've mixed feelings about it.

      On one hand, it saves us all from any potentially mediocre cement and plaster job by some contract author.

      On the other, some musicians unfinished symphonies are treasured, although my feelings have always been mixed as regards Salmon of Doubt - it left me bitter sweet.

      1. Aitor 1

        Re: I wonder

        He already wrote a bit too much, I love it, I have read everything.. but I think it was a good idea..

      2. Stevie

        unfinished symphonies

        The Mezetian Gate was published in the unfinished version with author notes interpolated to stand in for missing text.

        Reactions on discovering that are mixed.

      3. collinsl Bronze badge

        Re: I wonder

        I don't think it would have come to a "contract author" - he seemed perfectly happy to let his daughter Rhianna take it on, but she chose not to, so he chose to have it destroyed.

      4. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: I wonder

        I understand that Robert E Howard's Dark Agnes stories were only released because killing himself made any of his unpublished stories hot stuff, but the one that was finished off by another writer ruined the character and I think he would have hated it.

    2. Alistair
      Windows

      Re: I wonder

      I don't.

      Frank Herbert -- and the abomination that has happened since.

      Anne McCaffery -- and the even more complete abomination that is her son.

      Numerous attempts to revive and recycle other outstanding authors works by people not even remotely connected to the life that laid down the core elements. I applaud the man for ensuring that no one defaces his work.

      (and I've only read !one! of his works, and honestly I couldn't recall which one......but it was loads of fun reading)

      1. macjules

        Re: I wonder

        Beat me to it. I might add JRR Tolkein to the list as well.

        1. Pirate Dave Silver badge
          Pirate

          Re: I wonder

          "I might add JRR Tolkein to the list as well."

          I think the world would be a poorer place if we'd never seen the Silmarillion, the Unfinished Tales, and the Lays of Beleriand, although I will admit Christopher was pushing things a bit there at the end.

      2. Teiwaz

        Re: I wonder

        Frank Herbert -- and the abomination that has happened since.

        Anne McCaffery -- and the even more complete abomination that is her son.

        The F. Herbert ones were also mostly son follows up...I still don't believe where the story ended up was where Frank would have taken it, never mind the glaring lack of deep wisdom the sequels have compared to the Masters works.

        I thought the Brian Sanderson completion of Wheel of Time was rather seamless - I appreciated not being left hanging in when Robert Jordan departed before finishing.

        1. Farnet

          Re: I wonder

          For me I literally took decades to read the wheel of Time by Robert Jordan, and it had some fantastic stuff and unfortunately some pretty mediocre stuff, but when Robert sadly passed away and the epic story hadn't finished I was really relieved when a ghost writer was hired to finish off the wheel of times, last few books........

          .... until I read them (especially the very last one).... OMG (no spoilers) not impressed in the slightest, and there seemed to be a public outcry on all the fans forums...

          So like others I have mixed feelings about it all as TP is a hero and has been with me throughout my early adult life (and now grumpy bastard age) and provided me with humour when I needed it, I will sorely miss the fact that there aren't going to be new stories (I always loved passing the supermarkets new releases in hardback and being seriously happy when I spot a new TP Discworld story, felt like being a kid again), but after being burnt by the Wheel of Time series.... not sure...

          Would be interested in the themes he was writing about.... ie more Ankh Morpork based storied etc?!?

          1. macjules

            Re: I wonder

            Oh dear, The Wheel of Time was one of the HBO considerations for a Game of Thrones replacement until Sony snapped it up. I suppose one should be thankful that at least the books are finished, and even then only just.

      3. Trilkhai

        Re: I wonder

        It's a shame that Pratchett didn't ask another close relative or friend to finish what he was working on, rather than asking his daughter — I wouldn't be ready to even seriously contemplate the idea for years in her position...

        One of my other longtime favorite comedic-fantasy authors (Diana Wynne Jones) instead asked one of her sisters to consider completing her final in-progress novel after her death. Her sister did eventually step up, and did a good enough job that very few people can tell where she took over.

        1. Aladdin Sane

          Re: I wonder

          Rhianna Pratchett's writing The Watch, so while there won't be any more books, there will be additional Discworld content.

    3. steviebuk Silver badge

      Re: I wonder

      Although I've never read any of his books he seemed a nice person when watching him on documentries. I just wonder if someone secretly took a backup of that hard drive before rolling over it.

      1. Aladdin Sane

        Re: I wonder

        I would not be surprised if there was a backup somewhere. He was a well known technophile, when asked why he had 6 monitors, he replied: "Because I don't have enough space for eight".

    4. tfewster
      Thumb Up

      Re: I wonder

      L-space: "one can read any book ever written, any book that will be written at some point and books that were planned for writing that were not, as well as any book that could possibly be written"

      I don't want to see a second-rate takeover. But I hope someone like Neil Gaiman looked though Pterrys notes and memorised some of the unpublished genius puns, pastiches and plots for a completely different world

    5. The Indomitable Gall

      Re: I wonder

      I think he was right to ask it, and I say the absolute proof of this is the Sky TV adaptations.

      David Jason is one of my all-time favourite actors (Dangermouse is still his best work, incidentally).

      But David Jason is also the quintessence of institutionalised "national treasure" -- they dragged Only Fools And Horses out well past its sell-by date, and made it all soppy and sentimental, and then when they had finally cancelled it, they brought it back to give it a happy ending twice, completely against the core point of the original concept. People kept watching it even after it became essentially unwatchable, simply because it was Only Fools And Horses, and in their heads it was "great". And the "national treasure" pull was so strong that they even made that god-awful young Del-boy series Rock and Chips, which was so meta in its double-nostalgia it made your head spin.

      Then there was A Touch of Frost. It was a fantastic series. They had a great lead character, well acted by Jason. He was a bit old, but it was fine. They kept convincing him not to retire, and talking him back into the studio for "one more series", until we had a TV detective a good decade beyond retiral age, who presumably needed a stunt double for any run of more than a few metres. But we can't cancel A Touch of Frost, can we? It's a national treasure! And the writing and direction got really, really crap towards the end. The second-last series was so dire I'm surprised they even bothered to commission the last one. And the last involved some really sad stuff in the run-up to the finale, yet they still painted it as a happy ending, because national treasures always need a happy ending... even if that happy ending is at the funeral of their best friend. Shoddy, shoddy writing.

      So that brings us back to Discworld. Rincewind was the wizard who ran away from everything, so 68-year-old David Jason was not the right man for the character by a long chalk. The only reason to include Jason was... he's a national treasure. And that still wouldn't have been enough if Discworld hadn't been... a national treasure. People watched it because... national treasure.

      If his writings had survived, that whole national treasure thing would have led to loveless stringing out of the series to satisfy our lust for national treasure.

      The very symbolic way in which it was done also cements in fans' consciousness exactly how much Pratchett is against that, and kills the commercial viability of national-treasure-pot-boilerism, because many of them would see the writing of a non-Pratchett Discworld novel as betraying their man.

      1. Aladdin Sane

        Re: I wonder

        David Jason was good as Albert though.

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