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Assange offers job to sacked Google diversity manifestbro

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Not related to article ...

but since Assange has managed to get his name on air again ...

Is there any appetite amongst commentards for a "Tell us the story about YOUR worst houseguest ..." type thread ? Primarily based on overstays, but I'm sure there's scope for other behaviour.

Might lighten the summer break ?

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"Is there any appetite amongst commentards for a "Tell us the story about YOUR worst houseguest ..." type thread ?"

One accidentally stabbed me.

You mean like that?

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"You mean like that?"

That is only a "story" in the sense "For sale: baby shoes, never worn" is. You... hipster!

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I had to re-read the footnote.

The first time I thought George Galloway had engaged in "bad sexual etiquette" with Julian Assange.

(Apologies for that unseemly mental image to anyone currently partaking of afternoon tea, or indeed, a Morrisons 12" sausage roll).

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Re: I had to re-read the footnote.

Is that where he pretends to be a cat licking cream off people?

Oh, that mental image has put me right off my dinner next 100 meals.

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A job in the Ecuadorian embassy?

I'm just curious where this cool job is :-)

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Re: A job in the Ecuadorian embassy?

2nd broom cupboard along, behind the toilet on the left.

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Re: A job in the Ecuadorian embassy?

Maybe he's looking for a decoy. Someone leaves embassy disguised as Assange whilst Assagne leaves by back door disguised as....well, disguised.

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Re: A job in the Ecuadorian embassy?

It is at this place:

WikiLeaks, its publisher and its journalists have won many awards, including:

The Economist New Media Award (2008)

The Amnesty New Media Award (2009)

TIME Magazine Person of the Year, People’s Choice (highest global vote) (2010)

The Sam Adams Award for Integrity (2010)

The National Union of Journalists Journalist of the Year (Hrafnsson) (2011)

The Sydney Peace Foundation Gold Medal (2011)

The Martha Gellhorn Prize for Journalism (2011)

The Blanquerna Award for Best Communicator (2011)

The Walkley Award for Most Outstanding Contribution to Journalism (2011)

The Voltaire Award for Free Speech (2011)

The International Piero Passetti Journalism Prize of the National Union of Italian Journalists (2011)

The Jose Couso Press Freedom Award (2011)

The Privacy International Hero of Privacy (2012)

The Global Exchange Human Rights People’s Choice Award (2013)

The Yoko Ono Lennon Courage Award for the Arts (2013)

The Brazillian Press Association Human Rights Award (2013)

The Kazakstan Union of Journalists Top Prize (2014)

As well as nominations for the UN Mandela Prize (2015) and nominations in six consecutive years for the Nobel Peace Prize (2010-2015)

https://wikileaks.org/What-is-Wikileaks.html

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Re: A job in the Ecuadorian embassy?

Ever such a long time ago before they started playing geopolitics

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Re: A job in the Ecuadorian embassy?

>WikiLeaks, its publisher and its journalists have won many awards, including:

Honours which trail off in importance over time due to the ass clown running it.....

> nominations in six consecutive years for the Nobel Peace Prize (2010-2015)

Anyone can nominate, but it still doesn't seem to have made the 2017 list - 318 others have and one of them is Donald Trump (really).

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Re: A job in the Ecuadorian embassy?

Maybe he's looking for a decoy. Someone leaves embassy disguised as Assange whilst Assagne leaves by back door disguised as....well, disguised.

Been done. See for instance Dickens: "It is a far, far better thing that I do, than I have ever done; it is a far, far better rest that I go to than I have ever known."

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he Kazakstan Union of Journalists Top Prize

Ah, Kazakhstan, this hotbed for democracy and human rights!

Did you notice all the "relevant" prizes were awarded before 2011? This list shows very well how Wikileaks went wrong in the last years.

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Assange shouts at world to stop forgetting him

Use your workplace as your personal soapbox for a disruptive and controversial topic, make sure your employer's name is all over your topics when it hits the press, and then call it censorship as you're led out the door.

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Re: Assange shouts at world to stop forgetting him

^^^ -- This.

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Re: Assange shouts at world to stop forgetting him

@ Kevin McMurtrie

What the Google employee wrote was polite and well reasoned, which should not be disruptive or controversial at all. It was the irrational SJWs who made Dialectic argument controversial, because it doesn't fit their fantasy "narratives", so they spew loads of Rhetorical noise, use implicit/policy censorship, and some "moderates" even lazily side with the SJWs!

He was probably trying to gather support inside, obviously SJW infested, Google to challenge unfair SJW policy and discrimination, because he was aware of the damage it was causing inside Google, but may not have realised that HR is a common SJW target and stronghold, specifically to corrupt the rules and policies of an organisation, to hijack it!

He should have read the book "SJWs always lie" for how SJWs can be defeated.

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Re: Assange shouts at world to stop forgetting him

Rubbish. Google IS pushing destructive politics detrimental to western Civilization. If his company is pushing politics then he has a right to challenge them.

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I think the problem for the employee is that Google has no ability to distinguish itself from his position, so their only option is to fire him to assert their own difference, since, they, by their own machinery, will now be forever linked with his views (it was referred to as "The Google Memo"). Whether any of his observations or assertions were valid is beside the point, the most important thing to Google is not the truth, no matter what it may be, but their ability to manage perceptions, regardless of the validity. I would presume Mr. Assange is in the same business as Google in this respect.

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Re: Assange shouts at world to stop forgetting him

You realize peppering your post with 'SJW' has the same effect on its credibility as doing the same thing with 'Micro$oft', right?

And no, he wasn't 'polite'. It's fundamentally not polite to question whether your female colleagues are biologically capable of doing their jobs.

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>>And no, he wasn't 'polite'. It's fundamentally not polite to question whether your female colleagues are biologically capable of doing their jobs.

Another poster linked to it elsewhere so I've just read through it in his entirety. The person you are replying to is correct - his piece was very polite. You are very wrong - nowhere in it is he suggesting that female colleagues are biologically not capable of doing their jobs. I'll link it again here.

You plainly have not read the piece or else have a tremendous determination to misinterpret it. Therefore you have no business telling the poster who has that they're wrong. It's actually a very interesting read and does attempt to support its points.

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Re: Assange shouts at world to stop forgetting him

Hush now don't let facts get in the way of regurgitating dogma force fed through failed liberal arts students blogs like el'reg. If people were to actually read things and acquire first-hand information they'd have to think for themselves, and we can't have that now can we?

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the global alliance of weapons-grade bellends

Sadly it's probably even harder to get an international treaty banning bellends than it is to get one banning nukes. Even if we did, North Korea would insist on producing their own(*).

(*) One could argue they already have done, code named "Fat Boy with weird haircut".

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Re: the global alliance of weapons-grade bellends

Which fat boy with a weird haircut, North Korea's or America's?

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Double standards

What has always struck me about the anti-discrimination lobby is that while they are against discriminating against a person because of skin colour or gender, they have no problem with discriminating against a person due to the geographic location of the place they happened to have been born. In fact it is illegal NOT to discriminate against a person because of their place of birth (unless they have applied for and been graciously granted permission to be treated equally).

If it is forbidden to turn away a job applicant because they have black skin, how come it is forbidden to employ someone because they were born in Uganda (unless they have been given explicit permission by our government to work in the UK)?

After all, a person has no more control over the place they were born than they have about their skin colour. And if you demand that a person born in Uganda may only seek work in Uganda, why is it so much worse to demand that anyone born with a black skin may only seek work with a black employer? Both appear to me to be equally discriminatory.

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Re: Double standards

Don't know were you live, but in the US you can not discriminate based these criteria .

race, color, religious creed, national origin, ancestry, sex, sexual orientation, age, military service, or disability.

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@kain preacher Are you saying that if I went to the U.S. as a UK national and applied for a job, they could not refuse me on the grounds that I don't have a work permit? Because if I have to have a work permit but a person born in the US does not need to have a work permit, that would be discrimination based upon national origin, wouldn't it?

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If you have a green you dont need a work permit.

Since when is checking to make sure some complies with the law or is here legally discrimination ?

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It's simple, permits and licenses promote law and order! Or they're used to bully kids and as politically connected protectionism that protects the guild more than it does the consumer. Seriously, in many professions you aren't even allowed to work for just anybody by law but I don't want to get started on the whole ITAR and EAR intact male Bos taurus excreta.

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If you have a green you dont need a work permit.

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The fact that a person born outside the US would need a "green" but a person born inside the US does not is obviously discrimination based upon birth location.

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Since when is checking to make sure some complies with the law or is here legally discrimination ?

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Since when the law itself is discriminatory. When it was illegal for blacks to own property, would you argue that it was not discriminatory to refuse to sell to a black because it was the law?

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It's simple, permits and licenses promote law and order!

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I see. So if blacks needed a licence to own a knife, but whites did not need a licence, you would not regard that as being discrimination?

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Re: Double standards

Sorry, I'll include a #sarcasm hashtag next time.

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OED definition of bigot: A person who is intolerant towards those holding different opinions.

OED definition of bigot: A person who is intolerant towards those holding different opinions.

https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/bigot

MWD definition of bigot: a person who is obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices; especially : one who regards or treats the members of a group (such as a racial or ethnic group) with hatred and intolerance

Note that in the definition, race and ethnic group are listed as examples. There is no exception that permits mistreating ethnic groups because you "don't like them" or you think "your prejudices are based in science and everyone else's prejudices are based in pseudo science."

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Re: OED definition of bigot: A person who is intolerant towards those holding different opinions.

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OED definition of bigot: A person who is intolerant towards those holding different opinions.

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I have the opinion that women should not be raped or beaten because of how they dress, and I am intolerant of people who have the opinion that it is perfectly OK to rape or commit GBH on some women. I have the opinion that it is abhorrent to put people to death because they have a different religious belief or are homosexual, and I am intolerant toward people who believe it is OK to kill people for those reasons.

If that makes me a bigot, I will wear the label with pride.

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Re: OED definition of bigot: A person who is intolerant towards those holding different opinions.

When someone compares an opposing political view with a violent crime it's usually because they accept that their political beliefs don't stand on their own merits and they need to argue in favour of something else instead.

Just throwing that out there.

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Re: OED definition of bigot: A person who is intolerant towards those holding different opinions.

@WhatAWorld

I don't trust all dictionary definitions anymore because some original definitions have been subtly/ grossly altered and/or extended for overtly political reasons, including the dishonest extension of the word Pirate (violent boarding and theft from a ship) to apply to non-violent, copying of IP, with only fictional damage.

Not all arguments are worth considering, some debaters are idiots, sophists (including out-of-context usage) or liars when they accuse others of being a bigot, and the targets may not trust the other parties to argue honestly. Most people are probably not aware of the books "Influence" and "Pre-influence", and how people can be manipulated.

The words/concepts Fascist and Nazi have also been abused, and don't mean what a lot of people think they mean, due to selfish Zionist propaganda and lazy over use, thus Godwin's Law.

I would not consider anyone a Bigot for rejecting false-choice Hegelian-Dialectics, or any of the Cultural-Marxism cultural-sabotage-weapons of the Frankfurt School's, and it's disciple's, including political correctness, feminism, post-modernism, victim culture, and Marxist invented concepts like Racialism etc.; all to prepare the way for dictatorship, where all the useful Marxist idiot activists, including SJWs, will be tragically and mercilessly executed, as previously demonstrated by USSR policy and actions!

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Re: OED definition of bigot: A person who is intolerant towards those holding different opinions.

"If that makes me a bigot, I will wear the label with pride."

Same here - I don't feel the need to personally conduct an endless and laborious debate all over again with every single supporter of a known discredited topic (see anti-vaxxers for an example if you really must have one - my list is much, much longer) before I'm allowed to consider them an idiot. Call me whatever you feel like for it, it won't make me feel ashamed. I might still be up for a debate if I'm in a good mood and you seem courteous and showing signs of critical thinking, but I make no promises...

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Re: OED definition of bigot: A person who is intolerant towards those holding different opinions.

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When someone compares an opposing political view with a violent crime

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The belief that a woman should be stoned to death for wearing the wrong type of clothes (as is the law in some countries) *is* a political view.

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Real journalists meet and question those they disagree with.

Journalists have to meet a higher standard than the regular public. Journalists are not merely supposed to avoid being bigots by respecting contrary opinion. Journalists are supposed to seek out contrary opinion.

Real journalists meet and question those they disagree with. So Assange is a real journalist, whereas your editors and publisher wouldn't know a real journalist if they saw one.

"*Assange recently met Nigel Farage, has offered tentative praise of Donald Trump, and was defended by George Galloway as having merely engaged in "bad sexual etiquette" in relation to the allegations of sexual assault against Assange, which the WikiLeaker has always denied."

Trump is going to get impeached, hopefully for improper things he did that no other president before him did. But that doesn't mean he has had no good ideas. Even the devil has an occasional good idea.

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Grab them by the Pussy

That's still fine - I'm surprised that our lad hasn't been offered a job in Washington.

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Hm.

Seems the author made the same common mistake as other parts of the media, by accidentally labeling the memo "anti-diversity". The Atlantic have a good piece on it, here:

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/08/the-most-common-error-in-coverage-of-the-google-memo/536181/

Also, if anyone wants to read the actual memo, it's up at https://diversitymemo.com/

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Re: Hm.

Don't confuse people with facts, dear. The trolls are enjoying their rampage.

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Noted troll Julian Assange?

"In his latest attempt to further the global alliance of weapons-grade bellends*, noted troll Julian Assange"

The man had sacrificed a great deal in opposing the state security apparatus, what have you done? Would you mind preserving these kind of character assassinations for the likes of Breitbart. But do tell us your opinion on the current illegal and immoral war being prosecuted on the people of Syria by the US military industrial complex?

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The man had sacrificed a great deal...

The man sacrificed Chelsea Manning, IIRC. Any updates on this article?

https://www.wired.com/2010/12/manning-defens/

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Re: Noted troll Julian Assange?

"The man sacrificed Chelsea Manning, IIRC. Any updates on this article?"

No, it was FBI snitch Adrian Lamo who betrayed Manning. Lamo also turned in his pal Sabu. The public arrest of both Sabu and Lamo was to disguise the fact they were long time FBI informants. Sabu or Lamo having accidentally doxxing themselves while on IRC. Lamo being drawn to the attention of the FBI while engaged in a little CC fraud to fund his pharmaceuticals.

Hey, elREg, how about an article on the stated aims of the US security apparatus to destroy and discredit Wikileaks and Assange through planting fake news articles in the media.

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Re: Noted troll Julian Assange?

I remember when Assange was the poster child of the Regressives along with Richard Dawkins, oh how the times change.

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Perhaps the memo should be read, before commenting?

The argument laid out (whether you ultimately agree or not) was well reasoned.

Perhaps the bias meter within some heads needs revisited.

Posting A/C in case my boss sees this!

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The argument laid out was NOT well reasoned, for many reasons.

One that stands out - discussions of the "average woman" vs the "average man" in the workplace and inherent traits etc etc etc and forces the acceptance of that premise to then prescribe hiring practices (which have absolutely nothing to do with him) at Google.

He's already failed at the first step - it's basic logic. What he is saying is the equivalent of:

1. Many horses are blue.

2. Blue horses tend to lose footraces.

3. We should never race blue horses.

Since it appears that person hasn't moved beyond the 1890's, replace "horses" with people, "blue" with women, "lose footraces" with "have emotions" and "race" with "hire". Can nobody else see the gaping hole in his logic?

Accepting that his argument is well reasoned - yeah, better leave that one anonymous.

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"He's already failed at the first step - it's basic logic. What he is saying is the equivalent of:

1. Many horses are blue."

Here's a counter example, 70% of patients with Ebola die from Ebola. This isn't logic, it's facts. For the 'average women' and 'average men', he was trying to point out facts, not basic logic.

At most, his mistake was not putting reference or stating reference to the studies and not putting disclaimers on his points being interpretation, assumption or studies result. Also, he probably should have considered the reaction the memo has on female staffs and change it to avoid misunderstanding.

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@kraphus

I'm baffled as to why so many people don't see it ­— but then again, my traits are pretty close to the polar-opposite of a stereotypical woman, so it'd be hard for me to overlook how silly it is to lump together people by gender...

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