back to article May the excessive force be with you: Chap cuffed after Star Trek v Star Wars row turns bloody

A bloke was arrested after a shouting match with a pal over Star Wars versus Star Trek led to blood being spilled. Jerome Dewayne Whyte, 23, was collared by Oklahoma police at 6pm on July 1 after he and his roommate argued about the relative merits of the snooty space opera versus the sci-fi merchandizing vehicle turned …

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        1. IT Hack

          Re: No contest

          > "My vote for best goes to Bab5."

          > And mine goes to Battlestar Galactica.

          >Pfft! Firefly was best

          That would be Blakes 7.

          mic drop

          1. LaeMing
            Boffin

            Re: No contest

            ORAC saying "I am closing down. I have much to do. You have wasted my processing on your petty affairs for far too long." is my work PC's shutdown sound.

            1. h4rm0ny

              Re: No contest

              That's funny. Avon saying: "Have you considered amputation?" has been my default reply to anyone complaining of a headache to me for years.

              Doesn't win me many friends, though. :(

              1. Mark York 3 Silver badge
                Pint

                Re: No contest

                My wife doesn't appreciate it either.

              2. anthonyhegedus Silver badge

                Re: No contest

                I tend to invoke the Tachyon Funnel

            2. anthonyhegedus Silver badge

              Re: No contest

              You have a computer with a shutdown sound? How quaint.

              1. CrazyOldCatMan Silver badge

                Re: No contest

                You have a computer with a shutdown sound? How quaint.

                With extra "rubber mallet to the head" points if it's a shared office..

              2. LaeMing
                Linux

                Re: No contest

                "You have a computer with a shutdown sound? How quaint."

                Not as quaint as the 10-15 minutes it takes to boot to a usable state in the morning (Commercial OS, of course: My home Linux box of older hardware boots up from cold - including > equivalent start-up software - in about 28 seconds).

                But work pays me to use the tools they provide.

          2. Paul 129
            Terminator

            Re: No contest

            >> "My vote for best goes to Bab5."

            >> And mine goes to Battlestar Galactica.

            >>Pfft! Firefly was best

            >That would be Blakes 7.

            >mic drop

            Sigh, I must be the only one who liked Caprica

            1. Anonymous Coward
              Anonymous Coward

              Re: No contest

              Space Above And Beyond.

              Never actually watched it but I wanted to throw something new into the mix.

              1. MJI Silver badge

                Re: No contest

                SAAB was actually pretty good, I just wanted series 2

              2. 0laf

                Re: No contest

                I rewatched it recently, some of it is very clunky but it was starting to show promise just as it was canned (like many things) and Kristen Cloke did terrible things to my teenage hormones.

            2. Anonymous Coward
              Anonymous Coward

              Re: No contest

              > Sigh, I must be the only one who liked Caprica

              Did you forget to tick 'Post Anonymously'?

              1. Sir Runcible Spoon

                Re: No contest

                Any B7 fans out there need to watch the spoof: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wWuTeR7xCU4

                Orac saying 'are we there yet' in a plaintive voice gets me every time :) Very much like the time he was interrupted and said 'but what about the game?' even though imminent danger was looming :)

                Some of the best (and possibly worst) lines ever written were in B7.

                1. h4rm0ny

                  Re: No contest

                  I reckon I can top that:

                  Star Wrek (Full Movie)

                  Captain Pirk meets Commander Sherrypie. Affectionately sends up both B5 and ST at the same time. Worth it for the AMI Bios boot screen gag alone.

              2. Paul 129
                Happy

                Re: No contest

                I have no shame ;-)

        2. I Like Heckling Silver badge

          Re: No contest

          You're all forgetting Farscape which was on par with most of the top rated suggestions... and if you mention muppets I'll frelling kick you in the mevonks. :P

          1. d3rrial

            Re: No contest

            You guys have clearly never watched Lexx which is superior to all other things you posted.

            1. h4rm0ny

              Re: No contest

              I discovered Lexx late at night on Channel 4 many, many years ago. It was the first episode and the moment a computer glitch switched the fates of a wanted terrorist with an assembly of school children who had arrived for an award ceremony, I knew I had to watch all of it. It's on Amazon Prime at the moment so I re-watched it the first couple of episodes. And guess what - the sight of a bunch of smug school children being sentenced to death by lizard still makes me laugh.

              Honestly, neither Star Wars (no science), nor Star Treck (awful science) come close to the holy trinity of space nonsense that are Babylon 5, Blake 7 and Lexx.

          2. Gurhurk

            Re: No contest

            My wife (not a nerd) called Farscape "Muppet in a bucket". My own view of it never recovered from hearing that

      1. Anonymous Coward
        Anonymous Coward

        Re: No contest

        Talk about pissing contests! BSG2 only made it on the air because they pitched it as "just as good" as B5 but with lots more sex sex sex. With sex added they got a decent budget, unlike B5 which limped along on back-of-sofa funds. Talk about oily robotic action series and vehicles for washed up actors! "Hey, let's get Xena! That'll help our ratings!"

        You get more with a kind word and a two-by-four and splashy SEX than with just a kind word and a plot.

        (Me, bitter? Naah. "So now I take great comfort in the general hostility and unfairness of the universe.")

        (Oh, god, I'm defending a ~20 year-old against a ~13 year-old TV series. Well, that's better than defending the first trilogy Gah!)

        1. Steve Taylor 3

          Re: No contest

          > Oh, god, I'm defending a ~20 year-old against a ~13 year-old TV series.

          Worse yet, you're knocking Xena. And this whole article's about fighting words in nerd land!

          1. james 68

            Re: No contest

            Nope.

            Red Dwarf for the win. Smeg all the others.

            1. David 132 Silver badge
              Happy

              Re: No contest

              Red Dwarf for the win. Smeg all the others.

              And its near-cousin, Hyperdrive.

              "You have done a bad thing. We are going to re-habilitate you.

              Watch the kitten. She does not question authority! Be like the happy kitten!

              And look! Another kitten, sitting in a hat! What a lovely world it is where kittens can sit in hats!"

              1. Jamie Jones Silver badge

                Re: No contest

                stargate sg-1 and atlantis

                1. Anonymous Coward
                  Anonymous Coward

                  Re: No contest

                  Stargate, brilliant.

                  Stargate atlantis, utter drivel.

                  1. imanidiot Silver badge

                    Re: No contest

                    I prefer Firefly as best Scifi series, which certainly got cancelled before it's time. Stargate SG-1 was good too, SG:Atlantis had its moments but sometimes felt a little too grandiose for it's own good. SG:U started off terrible but worked it's way up to being actually quite good by the time it got cancelled and IMHO should have been given atleast 1 more season.

                    Star Wars as a series of movies isn't all that terrible, but a little pompous at times and terrible at others. Star Trek introduced a lot of the now standard elements of Scifi but there are many, many terrible, horrible stories/episodes offset against the good ones and the acting is not always that great either imho. A bit like watching old Dr. Who at times. Wobbly sets and all.

                    Babylon5, DS9, etc I've never even seen, so can't comment.

            2. Franco

              Re: No contest

              Go to purple alert!

              Are you sure Sir? It does mean changing the lightbulb.

          2. CrazyOldCatMan Silver badge

            Re: No contest

            Worse yet, you're knocking Xena.

            Which (in my book) is a Good ThingTM

            Yes - Lucy Lawless is a good actor. Yes - some of the special effects were OK. But wholesale stealing and mushing together of various myths and histories?

            Nauseating.

      2. Phil O'Sophical Silver badge

        Re: No contest

        Battlestar Galactica.

        Or "Eastenders in Space" as it's otherwise known. More soap opera than space opera.

  1. tfewster

    Question 3

    x The one with 7 of 9 in it

    1. Chris G

      Re: Question 3

      My exact thought; Star wars; Princess Leia, Star Trek; 7 of 9!

      In addition Star Wars was a Hollywood epic from day 1, Trek was a low budget TV series that took its time to win the hearts and minds of its followers, it was cheesy but nevertheless raised issues, asked questions and was, for it's day very multicultural and quite egalitarian. It was closer to real sci-fi, in my opinion SW is more sci-fantasy with the force and hi-tech beings battling with swords, even if they are hi-tech swords.

      Oh, I don't much like fluffy cuddly warriors or (the real killer for SW) any franchise that could introduce a JarJarBinks.

    2. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Question 3

      "The one with 7 of 9 in it"

      That's Google surely.... .

      1. Aladdin Sane

        Re: Question 3

        It's all about H2G2.

        "I've got this terrible pain in all the diodes down my left hand side..."

  2. DarkLordofSurrey

    Was it a Darth Vader choke or a Vulcan neck pinch?

    And before he passed out did he say "You have been and always will be my friend..." or "You already have, Jerome. You were right. You were right about me... "

  3. iRadiate

    You're a trick.

    Is that really an insult?

    1. John Brown (no body) Silver badge

      That's what I came here to ask too. Someone calling me "a trick" is more likely to leave me standing their a bit non-plussed, not turn me into a psychotic homicidal maniac.

    2. Mark York 3 Silver badge

      Up a tree!

      You missed something.

  4. ChubbyBehemoth
    Mushroom

    Trick

    The Next Generation? WTF!!! That's not Star Trek!

    Oh,.. you can leave it blank...

  5. John Gamble

    Nice picture choice. The only thing that would make it better is if you Photoshopped the Stargate behind them.

    1. LaeMing
      Alien

      I think I would have to vote Stargate simply because they never took themselves so seriously (well, except Universe, and we all know how that turned out!).

    2. Haku
      1. Haku

        Re: Challenge accepted.

        Whilst I'm on the subject of TV show mashups, an old picture I made:

        haku.co.uk/b3ta/KnightTeamTrek.jpg

        "I aint getting in no transporter, fool!"

        1. allthecoolshortnamesweretaken

          Re: Challenge accepted.

          "I aint getting in no transporter, fool!"

          No, you really shouldn't!

          1. Haku

            Re: Challenge accepted.

            Hadn't seen that video before, I liked it.

            But the possible reality of an actual working transporter is far far scarier than accidentally merging two entities together.

            Sleep tight!

        2. Anonymous Coward
          Anonymous Coward

          Re: Challenge accepted.

          haku.co.uk/b3ta/KnightTeamTrek.jpg

          I can't quite work out why that's as funny as it is.

  6. kain preacher

    motherfuckingbastards. Every one knows DS9 was the best sci fi show ever. Well after fire fly that is.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Mission

      DS9 - Its five year mission; to stay where it is and wait for people to visit.

      1. joeW

        Re: Mission

        "Sisko's on a mission

        To go no bloody place

        He loiters on a space station

        Above Bajoran space

        The wormhole's opened up and now

        They come from near and far

        We'll keep the booze but please send back

        The fucking Jem-hadar!"

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ieccm5PWA1I

    2. I Like Heckling Silver badge

      Whilst I actually agree that DS9 was (so far) the best of the Star Trek series... it's still way short of shows like Firefly, Farscape, Babylon 5 and so forth. It's on par with SG1, BSG...

      What I'm more interested in is what people think are the 'Worst' shows of the last 30yrs... that's sure to cause a few fisticuffs. :)

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