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The Kremlin is set to ban Apple's iCloud as part of plans to throw up a new iron curtain around Russia's digital communications. Anti-data-offshoring laws will come into force on New Year's Day 2015 that require all data generated within Russia to be stored within its borders. Apple's iCloud service has been in the news …

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    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Sounds horrible for business, too.

      sounds like 'Detonte' to me.

    2. karlp

      Re: Sounds horrible for business, too.

      We are very rapidly coming to a position where businesses will need to decide whether to serve China/Russia and those who choose to align with them. Or NATO and those who choose to align with it.* Doing business "across" those lines will be largely incompatible for a variety of reasons.

      The harsh reality is that as a citizen anywhere in the world, your communications and data are being monitored and collected by umpteen number of organizations, both public and private. Within the above described alliances, the collected data is largely fluid.**

      The problem is that it has become a common practice for so long*** that everyone in a position that could make change, has their own reasons for believing it should continue.

      Our Only Hope (TM) is that enough people with the power to make change get upset at other people with the power to make change that a new international treaty on data privacy, security, and regulations as to the lawful collection of it.

      Karl P

      *Theoretically, there may yet become a greater african state and a greater south/central american state in time, however its likely that they will fall into a loose coalition with one or the other of the above options.

      **That is to say that if one agency has a question about data under the jurisdiction of another agency it is largely available within the above outlined "loose coalitions" assuming the right person were to ask it wouldn't be a problem to get the datasets they asked for as quid pro quo is a powerful tool.

      ***Don't think it's just American doing it, every country where the matter has seriously been looked at has some sort of indiscriminate program in place, or access to an indiscriminate program via an ally.

      TLDR; Right now, no matter where you are, your data is largely available to a very wide range of other interested parties. The only realistic fix at this point is for so many people to get fed up that we convene a new set of "Geneva Conventions" on Data Privacy and Security.

  1. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Irregardless of what people say about Russia (ether right wing communist or whatever), they are right on not trusting the Icloud with their citizens data. The NSA has big ears

    1. Dan Paul

      Lead in your tinfoil!

      It isn't the NSA you have to worry about AC, Apple can't keep anything on iCloud private, even from script kiddies or journo's.

    2. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      What about other countries with prying eyes & ears? Say China, Australia, Iran, former soviet states (ie something-stan), the UK, Germany, France or Japan. Yeah, the US is the nosiest of the lot, but there aren't a lot of clean hands, globally

  2. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    @ six

    A lot of the countries you listed have long filtered a lot of the media content their countries receive. I'd further hazard to guess that most, if not all countries listed, already have programs similar to the NSA's. They just haven't been stupid enough to get caught or admit anything.

  3. graeme leggett Silver badge

    "Big Vlad "

    I thought he was one of the shorter "statesmen" of our age.

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