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Boffinry nerve-centre CERN has attempted to recreate the very first website to mark 20 years since the official launch of the World Wide Web. It is feared the first ever web page is lost to the sands of time as it was changed daily and any backups are few and far between. However the team has pulled up a snapshot of the very …

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  1. sisk

    Um....duh....

    <html>

    <head>

    <title>Hello World<title>

    <head>

    <body>

    <p>Hello world</p>

    </body>

    </html>

    1. Greg J Preece

      Re: Um....duh....

      <html> tags? Bloody luxury! I'd take a look at the source code for that page. It's not even as advanced as that.

  2. Paul Renault

    No, no, no, that's not what it looked like.q

    I distinctly remember that page when I first saw it: It had glowing amber phosphor letters on a black background. No, really!

  3. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Judging by how long the linked pages took to load they're using the same hardware they did back in 93 as well.

  4. TrishaD
    FAIL

    But

    There are no cats.....

    1. James O'Shea

      Re: But

      This is a _good_ thing.

    2. El Zed

      Re: But

      ah, the cats were to be found skulking around ftp servers and Gopher at this point.

  5. Androgynous Cupboard Silver badge

    Shame on you

    An article about CERN recreating conditions from the past and you DON"T use the phrase "moments after the big bang?" What kind of hackneyed, scientifically illiterate journalists are you?

  6. Pete the not so great
    Happy

    I'm sure I saw a ..

    Like button on it

  7. nuked

    I thought it was hamsterdance.com

    1. M Gale

      Don't be silly.

      It's Goatse, surely?

      1. Katie Saucey
        Unhappy

        Re:Don't be silly

        Thanks, you've just destroyed my lunch with the flashback.

  8. Dodel

    404

    Surely the 1st webpage would have been a 404 ?

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: 404

      Would it have been a 404 and not a 404 AT EXACTLY THE SAME TIME?

      With no other pages in the known universe to load, the only page to load would be the 404, and because we didn't know of lolz catz, we'd only go looking for the 404 in the first place.

      Or something.

      1. julianh72
        Coat

        Re: 404

        "Would it have been a 404 and not a 404 AT EXACTLY THE SAME TIME?"

        Schrodinger's 404?

        1. hplasm
          Happy

          Re: 404

          Schrodinger's LOLCat...

  9. Gerry Doyle 1
    FAIL

    ERROR: connection refused.

    info.cern.ch refused to accept connection on port 80

    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    While trying to retrieve the URL: info.cern.ch/hypertext/WWW/TheProject.html

  10. Yet Another Anonymous coward Silver badge

    Obviosuly a British invention

    When your tag line for the world changing invention = "don't be disappointed"

  11. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    RIAA in already?

    Noticed while browsing the lists (General Overview > By Subject):

    Music

    MIDI interfacing , Song lyrics (apparently disabled for copyright reasons)

    Does this mean the Recording Industry Ass of America got their heavy-boys in on the very first web site in the world?

  12. Liam Proven Silver badge

    NeXT emulator -- help needed

    If they want to get the first ever web server back online via an emulator, they could help the Previous project:

    http://previous.alternative-system.com/

    It's a (so-far incomplete) NeXT workstation emulator. More info than the project itself gives out on Wikipedia:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Previous_%28emulator%29

    And I want it because I have an actual boxed copy of NeXTstep but nothing to run it on. Perhaps CERN can throw a coder or two at it for a while?

  13. mhoulden

    I'm surprised the first page ever doesn't now have a link farm, a stock photo and "This domain may be for sale" on it now.

  14. My Alter Ego

    telnet

    Good luck using that on Windows Vista and above. Microsoft in their wisdom removed it, apparently to reduce bloat (it's a couple of 100kB) and for security reasons (confusing a client with a server that was never enabled by default).

    It's quicker to google PuTTY, download, install and run than it is to install the telnet client.

    1. Phil W

      Re: telnet

      Or you could have just gone to Control Panel -> Programs and Features -> Turn Windows Features on or off and then ticked the Telnet client box. Same in windows 7 and 8.

      1. J.G.Harston Silver badge

        Re: telnet

        No I can't only an administrator can do that, and I have no "business case" for a telnet client or for access to the telnet port through the firewall.

        1. Phil W

          Re: telnet

          J.G.Harston, I'd point out to you that my reply was in response to "My Alter Ego" who said he needed to download putty on Vista. So holds no relevance to your situation.

          If you can't add telnet to Windows then I doubt you can download and run executables either? Even if you could your firewall issue still stands.

          Perhaps you could try this at home if it troubles you so greatly.

  15. NukEvil
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    Couldn't get it to load :(

    But, I'm just going to assume that, being the first webpage in the world, it didn't have those annoying <blink> tags, flashing smileys, generic ads (YOU *blink* ARE *blink* A *blink* WINNER *blink* !!!!!!), site hit counters, text marquees, animated gifs moving across the page, harsh text-to-background color interface, a link to a primitive java chat room that's the same as every other java chat room, iframes everywhere, a java chat room in an iframe, and loud MIDI music suddenly playing out of nowhere, for no reason whatsoever.

    Bet it had porn, tho.

  16. Jim Wilkinson
    Unhappy

    On a NeXT machine

    Damn - had a NeXT machine back then and downloaded that first web page just for fun and interest. But then the NeXT died and I had to move on to a Mac (OS9 in those days). Somehow that code got lost in the transition. I've had plenty of time since to regret that.

    1. Michael Thibault

      Re: On a NeXT machine

      That would have been System 7, had you been downloading (viewing) something very near 'the big bang'.

  17. Anonymous Coward
    Trollface

    Took about a minute to load

    Are they running it on 1992 hardware to be more authentic?

  18. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    A good read about what happened at CERN

    "How the Web was Born" by James Gillies and Robert Cailliau, both at CERN at the time and involved with Berners Lee. Covers all the little details, like how Cailliau had to hide Berners Lee's 20K salary from the physists who would otherwise complain about diverting funds from the real research. Heh.

    http://tinyurl.com/ckbzf2h

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: A good read about what happened at CERN

      ..like how Cailliau had to hide Berners Lee's 20K salary from the physists who would otherwise complain about diverting funds from the real research.

      Go to Oxford, find some of his 'colleagues' from those days lurking in the 'Royal Oak' (if that's still their favoured watering hole) wait for the moment they bring a pint to their lips, mention his name, watch the fun (and count the expletives).

  19. julianh72
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    Shortest path from the start of the internet to the end of the internet?

    And then there is the “Last Page of the Internet”: http://www.1112.net/lastpage.html

    Which raises the interesting “thought experiment”:

    What is the shortest path from the First Page of the Internet to the Last Page of the Internet, only by clicking and following hyperlinks?

    (No cheating by getting to a search engine and typing in “last page” or some such.)

  20. A Man From Bras
    Holmes

    Unfortunate choice of letters

    I wonder did they ever regret choosing those Ws, given that "double-U" is alone in the alphabet as requiring 3 syllables to pronounce the name of a single letter. Thus making the acronym WWW only three letters, but a hefty 9 syllables long... which is presumably why most folks seem to come out with something like "wu-wu-wu", when telling someone else a web address.

    [interesting factoid: In Spanish W is called "ve doble" meaning "double-V". A more angular viewpoint on the letter-form]

    1. veti Silver badge
      Devil

      Re: Unfortunate choice of letters

      In the Antipodes, it's pronounced 'dub-dub-dub'.

      I know, I know. Bloody colonials.

  21. mrjohn

    This bit it interesting, from the section on Ted Nelson

    "and the Xanadu project will aim to attribute royalties to the author of a work whenever it is retrieved across the network."

  22. daveeff
    Coat

    M$

    Followed this link about 1st ever web page & the first thing I saw was an advert for Office 365, I wasn't reazlly suprised.

  23. DownUndaRob

    I preferred gopher

    Gopher worked far faster over 2400baud modems.

  24. Trustme
    Pint

    Because I'll never get the chance

    to buy him a drink in person. At one stage in the late '90s I was housebound for 2 years and the WWW was a lifeline of communication for me. I couldn't leave the house, yet daily I talked with people all over the world. Thank you Tim Berners-Lee!

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