The Palm Palm: The Derringer of smartphones

Re: Oh look, they re invented the HTC Touch Diamond.

Agreed - great idea shame about the price.

Re: Oh look, they re invented the HTC Touch Diamond.

Or the original ZTE Blade.

Re: Oh look, they re invented the HTC Touch Diamond.

quite surprised but perhaps I shouldn't be for the lack of comparison to the HP (Palm) Veer. Almost an identical form factor and target market. It was the last WebOS phone to fully launch (I don't count the Pre3 as it was canceled quite suddenly).

https://www.gsmarena.com/hp_veer-3771.php

The veer was quite cute, and no built in headphone jack though it did have a magnetic attachment to get a headphone jack(and micro USB). It did have a slide out keyboard which this new Palm lacks. It also had wireless charging. No WebOS devices had expandable storage unfortunately.

I don't know what the Veer's sales were like but I remember the comments at the time when the market was going to bigger and bigger screens it seemed crazy to go the exact opposite direction though I appreciate the risk they took trying something different. I bought a Veer myself I think it was basically free when I renewed my ATT contract at the time(was using a Pre3). Never really had a use for the Veer outside of a toy. Ended up giving it to a webos developer a couple of years later.

Still have my ATT Pre3 sitting in a box along with a French language version of the Pre3. My nearly 6 year old galaxy note 3 remains my daily driver and my first Android device.

Re: Oh look, they re invented the HTC Touch Diamond.

Well I just took delivery of the Unihertz Jelly Pro off Amazon in black. Amazing little thing - fits across the palm of my hand - just need to get nano sim for it & it'll replace the T5 lite as carry phone. Almost the same spec, LESS than a quarter the size. Good screen and I suspect 3 days battery life with 4G switched off and the usual power saving settings. It's so tiny it's almost too small. Definitely worth the £100 for a phone that'll fit in a pocket and doesn't double up as light artillery ammunition..

Re: Oh look, they re invented the HTC Touch Diamond.

Oh look...at the photos in the article: "Alongside an iPhone SE"

Yes, that's right, instead, for a mere £239 purchasing it outright, you could have bought a whole iPhone and it literally just "slightly larger!

An Phone SE with 4-inch Retina display, A9 chip, Touch ID, 12MP rear camera, 720 front camera, 4G LTE2, fast Wi-Fi, 32GB storage, 2+ day battery, etc, etc..

I fail to understand the purpose of this Palm as much as I fail to understand why people fork out £1000+ for an iPhone which they can by for a mere 20-25% of that.

Re: Oh look, they re invented the HTC Touch Diamond.

That's not profit it's theft.

It's whatever the market will bare, sadly.

I, too, want a small, usable cell phone, like the 3.5" or 4.0" phones of old. Things you could throw in your pocket, charge every couple of days (or weeks), rather than mini-tablets that struggle to retain a charge for a day, scratch if you breath on them, require hip holsters or special carrying cases, can't be used with one hand, and cost five times what my Nokias did ten years ago.

I picked up a Samsung S7 refurb over the summer for Cdn$200 (about £115), because at 5.1", it was the smallest usable phone I could find. And at 5.1" it boasted about having a "one-handed mode", as if this were an oddity.

Hard to believe that when Steve Jobs rolled out iPhone 1.0, he actually apologized for the size of the overly large 3.5" phone. Today, phones with the word "compact" in their name clock in at 4.7" or larger.

There are 4" phones available out there, yes. But they're universally horribly underpowered and practically unusable. This Palm iteration is practically the only thing I've seen that even tries to be usable.

If it weren't for the fact that my Pebble smartwatch requires an Android or IOS application to connect to the phone, I would probably switch back to my Nokia C3 or 5130.

Re: Oh look, they re invented the HTC Touch Diamond.

less than 20GBP delivered...

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Soyes-7S-Dual-Sim-Small-Mini-Android-Smart-Touch-Screen-Mobile-Phone/232721622830?_trkparms=aid%3D555017%26algo%3DPL.CASSINI%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D55149%26meid%3D41675ce80d674442bd36ac59bf5c02b5%26pid%3D101006%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D1%26%26itm%3D232721622830&_trksid=p2045573.c101006.m3226

Re: "useless coin pocket" ?

It's not a coin pocket! Those are for pocket watches and you were expected to have the chain attached to your belt.

As for mine I now look for trousers with them on as they're perfect for keeping my car key in.

Re: "useless coin pocket" ?

Based on average use, its like the front flap pocket in men's brief underwear.

It's there, but pretty much no one uses it.

However, shove a palm phone in and ancient lint will have a new friend.

Re: "useless coin pocket" ?

I cut that thing out of all my pants because I was tired of getting my phone/keys/wallet/etc hooked in it, and have to struggle to not drop it on the floor.

Anything I DID put in it invariably dumped out the next time I sat down, so it was worse than useless.

Re: "useless coin pocket" ?

For many years I've carried either a Swiss Army Knife or a Leatherman Squirt in that pocket.

Anyway, as nice as the phone looks it's FAR too expensive. Anyone who is so worried about missing calls etc whilst out running, at the gym and so on will already have bought either an arm holder or shorts or leggings with a phone pocket at the rear waistband, and a quick check on Amazon reveals that you could buy a midrange Nokia (and no doubt other 'droids) and a fitness watch for less than the price of this phone.

Re: "useless coin pocket" ?

Quick check: my "useless coin pocket" currently holds

- about 7 € in small change, because coffee machines

- a 20 € note because that can come in handy

- a naildriver, because it does everything you could possibly want to do (pop open a beer bottle, rip a parcel open, break the ice in the freezer, dig a hole to plant seeds, emergency sharpening of a blunt blade, open letters, file your nails on the rigged sides for the ladies, you name it -really *).

I have to admit that I'm jealous — even though I wear "old-school" relaxed-fit jeans (plain old women's Levi's), the coin pocket on mine is nowhere near that large. It mostly just acts as a place to temporarily stash one or two keys or the 4cm-wide keyfob; it's too narrow for anything else.

Re: "useless coin pocket" ?

a naildriver, because it does everything you could possibly want to do

If you have a moment, would you mind sharing the make and model of the naildriver? I've gone through a lot of pocket tools and settled on, basically, a folding knife because most of the others weren't useful. Something less stabby and alarming to coworkers would be appreciated.

Re: Very, very nice

b) bloody android.

I clicked in here to say the same thing. I really like the idea and the size but the presence of the dreaded scumdroid is a stonewall dealbreaker.

Shame.

Re: Very, very nice

So you'd prefer what, Tizen? Sailfish? Linux?

Re: Xperia X10 mini pro

Still miss my mini pro.

Re: Waiting for the unbranded knockoff priced right

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Unihertz-Smallest-Smartphone-Android-Unlocked/dp/B0752BYRHM/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1545156932&sr=8-1&keywords=unihertz

But it was done first