Ecuador says 'yes' to Assange 'freedom' deal, but Julian says 'nyet' Wikileaks alumnus Julian Assange has apparently turned down a proposed deal that would have seen him leave the Ecuadorian embassy he has been camped out in for over six years. The government-secrets spaffing outfit on Friday confirmed that it would not be taking a deal that Ecuador has struck with the UK that would have given …
No need. They can just ask him to leave. If he doesn't? I'm sure they can get a copper or two to pop over and help.
The only problem is the PR. Once you've granted him asylum and claimed you're his heroic defender against the evil capitalist running-dogs - then it's a tad embarrassing to climb down and kick him out anyway.
They don't let you take cats to prison, however there are programs where the cons are used to train service dogs.
The truth, Assange will not get the death penalty. (Assuming he was assisting Manning during the actual theft.
The other truth... he'll be asked about the DNC theft and the Clinton's don't want him talking.
He may not make it to trial alive.
Cue the private security black ops going to take him out... and its not going to be Trump's dong.
"Cue the private security black ops going to take him out... and its not going to be Trump's dong."
Hilarious typo aside, you've been watching too many crap action-spy pictures. You need to watch something with nice people in it instead.
Queue the tabloid and Fauxnews muppets virtue signalling and regurgitating their echo chambers
In a world where deceit is universal, having an independent thought is revolutionary
I dare them to try thinking for themselves, even if only once in their lifetimes
I won't hold my breath though, some people are addicted to untruths covered in bile
I won't ask them to try critical thought, because their heads would implode and would make a right mess on the floor
Bullshit. They offered him a deal where he won't face the music in the US and he STILL won't leave. I think he is staying for the attention at this point. Let him rot there, until Ecuador decides to put him out on the street.
I think he should reconsider the offer. If they kick him out on the streets anything can and probably will happen.
Then again, there might be a battle between attention whores and the US will haul him off and silence him to let the other attention whore have all the headlines. While I'm attempting a joke about this part, truth is stranger than fiction so...
Sorry, wishful thinking on your part. The house republicans made an absolute joke of their constitutionally required oversight rule, by not asking any tough questions, making anyone who would provide uncomfortable answers testify behind closed doors, not issuing any subpeonas, and accepting a laughable standard of "executive privilege" that - had Clinton tried it during the Benghazi hearings - would have caused Sean Hannity's head to explode!
There will be REAL oversight in less than a month, and between that and Mueller's probe connecting him with his first (of no doubt many) felonies, he knows it is just a matter of time before he does the following:
1) his own version of the 'Saturday night massacre' firing Mueller, Rosenstein, and the entire SDNY office, and ordering all evidence collected by Mueller and the SDNY destroyed
2) pardons himself and his family for all crimes ever committed in their entire lives, because it is the things that he did before he ran that the SDNY is now investigating are starting to worry him more than the things he did during his campaign
3) resigns, claiming "I've done everything I set out to do as president so its time to get back to the business world"
4) a few years from now is convicted of tax evasion and other crimes by the state of NY, but no doubt he'll skate by like most white collar criminals and be given probation instead of the jail time he deserves due to his age and the desire to avoid a political firestorm
'DougS: “Bullshit. They offered him a deal where he won't face the music in the US” ..
Where did you read that, my reading of the situation is: Moreno would hand Assange over to the British who would extradite Assange to the US with the understanding Assange would not face the death penalty. This has nothing to do with a $400 million loan from the World Bank.
"my reading of the situation is: Moreno would hand Assange over to the British who would extradite Assange to the US with the understanding Assange would not face the death penalty. "
The UK would not extradite him to the US anyway. Sweden has first call on him. If the UK were, for some obscure legal reason, able to skip the Swedes and accede to a US extradition order, it would require the US to guarantee to no death penalty under any circumstances. The US/UK extradition treaty may well be unbalanced in the US favour, but there is no way the UK would extradite to anywhere where the charges could result in the death penalty being applied.
REF: "Bullshit. They offered him a deal"
Wait what?
Are you saying that the USA is a country to be trusted?
I think YOU'RE looking for attention
I suspect in YOUR world, albeit it one you absorbed from the MSM without question, is that 9/11 was as it happened according to the MSM and the resulting aftermath was because of terrorists, and not corporate oil interests. The USA is a country who would happily turn a blind eye of a murdered journalist, because of money interests and carry on, business as usual. I mean why risk BILLION $ in weapons contracts
I think you're very naive to think that Julian Assange is anything other than a political prisoner in the United Kingdom
I suspect in YOUR world, albeit it one you absorbed from the MSM without question, is that 9/11 was as it happened according to the MSM
Seriously, can you tinfoil hatters move on to something else and give this a rest? You have no idea how offensive it is to those of us that were in lower Manhattan that day to have your sort witter on about this in fact free ignorance of the actual events.
They offered him a deal where he won't face the music in the US and he STILL won't leave
To be fair, and I prefix this by pointing out he's guilty as hell, he's been assured he won't be extradited to a country where he'll be executed. Two problems with this - firstly it would be illegal to extradite him to the US (not to mention a PR shitshow) if he faced execution. Second point is he doesn't face execution for what he's on the hook for.
The problem Assange has is Mueller is about to indict him for being ground zero in the whole Russia gets Trump elected thing, and there's an entire political class in the US (and outside it) who are going to have very serious problems with cognitive dissonance over it. When that happens Ecuador isn't going to have much choice but to throw him out on the street, the US will suddenly start giving a damn and the amount of pressure the US will bring to bear on them will make it impossible to resist. That will confuse a bunch of folks because they think that either the UK or US give a damn now, when in fact he's basically imprisoned himself, he's quarantined.
I have good news for Assange though - if he knows anything and isn't just a Russian patsy then he has a get out of jail free card he can play although I strongly suspect he doesn't in which case oh dear.
Oh: and by the way, double down and double up mean different things.
Yeah, I don't know where this FUD about his being potentially subject to the death penalty in the US is coming from. ...oh wait, I do know. From Assange and his mouth-pieces.
Even if they decide that Assange isn't a journalist, and is trying to extort the US govt with threats about their information, none of that is subject to a death penalty for anyone, much less a foreign national, FFS.
> Even if they decide that Assange isn't a journalist, and is trying to extort the US govt with threats about their information, none of that is subject to a death penalty for anyone, much less a foreign national, FFS.
Bear in mind US political types wanted him charged with Treason. He's not even American.
So you can see how some people would be sceptical that the reality of "laws" would stop the US government doing whatever it wants. Laws haven't managed to stop them for many other matters.
Kim Dot Com comes to mind as another blatant case-in-progress... where laws appear to have been completely ignored by the US quest for doing damage to someone they don't like.
"They offered him a deal where he won't face the music in the US"
To be fair, they might have made that sound like a new special deal they'd made up just for him, but that's standard UK policy. We don't have the death penalty, and so we won't extradite anyone to a country where they are likely to get the death penalty.
Nothing stopping them from either extraditing him to Sweden or Australia where they might be more willing, or asking the US to pinky swear that the worst he'll get is life imprisonment, which is all it would take to get past the "no death penalty" requirement.
Either way he's still got to serve six months in HMP for bail jumping before he goes anywhere else.
He revealed the wrongdoing of powerful people, for all his faults he deserves to be able to live somewhere without fear of prosecution.
The man has broken the law and sought to justify it later with Wikileaks. He then proceeded to violate someone else's rights (the two girls), broke the law again and tried to play politics (badly) to enable probably the worst president to ever foul the White House (making Bush Jr look good by comparison) so I don't see why he deserves any slack.
He may overestimate his own worth, but let's just say that his view is fortunately shared by fewer and fewer people, especially those who supplied his bail money..
I see the confusion, you assumed I meant something like "cue stage right" like as in a pantomime
I actually did mean queue, as in a line of people waiting for something
I know the current situation is very much like a pantomime, but I am very much talking about reality, and I dont mean the reality presented to you by the establishments news desks
Anyway, thank you for the correction even if it was misguided. I am quite happy to be corrected where I am wrong, if it can be backed up with something credible
I actually did mean queue, as in a line of people waiting for something
Queue isn't a verb which can be used like that. You can only have come to that usage by mistaking it for cue, which can be used in that form and which you've no doubt heard spoken many times. Hope that helps.
Bloody hell, why am I bothering with a minor grammatical error? Well, probably because I know that dismantling your Trumpian-level nitwittery will have absolutely no effect upon you. Never mind. Us sheeple will just bugger off and leave you to it.
Shit my mistake, I of course do not know what I meant, and only you know
Can I get your contact details so I can run my thoughts through you to get clearance?
Exactly, why are you bothering about a grammatical error thats exists only in your head?
I meant queue, I typed queue, if I had intended to type cue I would have typed cue, if I had intended to type que, I also would have typed que. Which part of this do you not understand?
"I meant queue, I typed queue, if I had intended to type cue I would have typed cue, if I had intended to type que, I also would have typed que. Which part of this do you not understand?"
Presumably he doesn't understand how someone can get something so badly wrong, and then double-down on their error.
I'm surprised you haven't blamed your mistake on the deep state, or the Nelson Mandela effect.
@Jamie Jones
Seems pretty basic to me that if you double something then you increase it or raise it UP, viz the English expression "doubling up"
"Double down" makes no sense IMO and only seems to have appeared recently. Presumably it's an Americanism that's trying to ooze its way in over here.
It should be placed in the 'Rejected' bin, along with 'Gotten', 'Nite Club', 'Donut', etc. - oh, and 'Herb', when pronounced (in English) without the 'H' .
'arry 'oudini sat in the 'erb garden - Yes or No?
(Cockneys kindly ignore)
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