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Huawei MateBook Pro X: PC makers look out, the phone guys are here

Aladdin Sane Silver badge

How much?

djstardust Silver badge

The price goes up and down but approx. £1200 for the i5 and £1500 for the i7 with dedicated graphics.

Almost bought one last week but had second thoughts due to budget and being so close to xmas etc.

Lenovo are the direct competition with the Yoga 930 but their screens are utterly terrible and dull. This ticks all the boxes perfectly.

Also shows just how much our fruity friends are ripping people off though.

Tigra 07 Silver badge
Angel

RE: Aladdin

Amazon sells it for £1200, unless you add a bigger SSD. Argos also sells it. Want a different region? Here's the link: https://consumer.huawei.com/en/laptops/matebook-x-pro/

bombastic bob Silver badge
Linux

if it ships with Win-10-nic pre-installed, I won't want it.

Does it come with Linux?

(I assume it's not an apple clone)

David Shaw

mate pro x pricing is silly in Italy

the basic model i5 256GB SSD is €1499

the top model i7 512GB SSD is just 53 euros more, from a usual large box shifter

Waseem Alkurdi

The Linux ones are identical to their Windows counterparts.

Just nuke Windows off it.

And yep, it is an Apple clone.

Wayland Bronze badge

It should not matter to a Linux user what OS it comes with since you will be putting your own flavor on it. It's a PC so will run anything. I'd want to know if it's storage is plugged in or soldered.

Steve Crook

Re: RE: Aladdin

Only Amazon have the i7, 16GB, 512 version and currently want a whopping £1800+. The Microsoft store in the US also stock it for $1500.

At £1800 it doesn't come even close to an XPS 13.

I'll wait.

password1234567890

Funny how wanting support for linux is viewed so negatively. My Dell XPS 13 is verynice, but now I see this I'd buy it in a minute if I could install ubuntu/fedora/whatever on it. One fecking USB A port, that's all I miss on the Dell. Although I'd be just as happy if logitech would sell a fecking USB-C wireless dongle.

Anonymous Coward
Anonymous Coward

It matters because if it comes with Windows, you're paying licensing fees for a product you won't even use.

Piro

Having the incorrect aspect ratio in the very title of the article is sure to trigger people like me. Happy now?

Seriously though, this looks nice.

A reasonable port selection combined with a very nice screen, and even discrete graphics.

Anonymous Coward
Anonymous Coward

Yes, I'm still confused, I get the impression that it's a 3000×2000 resolution on a 4:3 screen ratio.

Wyrdness

You only have to go to the specs page on the Huawei website to see:

DISPLAY

Resolution: 3000 x 2000, 260 PPI

Aspect ratio: 3:2

So no, it's not 4:3

paulf Silver badge
WTF?

Yet from the article sub-heading: "A compact, grown-up 4:3 machine"

bombastic bob Silver badge
WTF?

that assumes the pixel ratio is 1:1 - so is it 4x3 dimensions, but 3:2 pixels?

MarkElmes

No this is definately a 3:2 screen - not 4:3. Same resolution as the SurfaceBook. (I'd rather the SurfaceBook - I love my one)

PhilipN Silver badge

Not surprised

Good article. FWIW since it is tangential I took delivery of the Mate 20 Pro phone a week ago and I am mightily impressed, not just with the phone but in the sense that Huawei are making some very smart, coherent and thoughtful decisions to push themselves up the sales charts in both phones and PC’s.

Bound to be in fact already is political pushback against Huawei but if this gives the PC industry a much-needed boot up the arse it is a Good Thing.

P.S. 32.5 cm tall? You mean y.... Oh the bag is 32.5 cm. Phew!

shedied

Re: Not surprised

Now that I've seen the prices... could you show me the bag?

The Original Steve

Re: Not surprised

Same here - brought the Mate20 Pro at the weekend and my word it's impressive. Other than the hefty price tag it's hands down the best phone I've ever used. Now I've ditched the stock launcher (using Microsoft Launcher - it's actually really rather good) the rest of their flavour of Android seems more than acceptable to me.

If the PC's are the same quality, I'm very much interested.

Pascal Monett Silver badge

I rather like it, but for one detail

It's a niggle, but for me it is important : the keyboard lacks a dedicated numeric keypad. I am very used to that, and not having one is a miss for me.

Still, I'm sure I've seen USB numpads, so all is not lost. I might look into that more closely when the time comes to replace my current workhorse.

soulrideruk Bronze badge

Re: I rather like it, but for one detail

I don't think I've seen a dedicated numeric keypad on a laptop for years?

Can you point me in the direction of where I would be able to find such a device?

John 110

Re: I rather like it, but for one detail

Acer aspire?

rmason Silver badge

Re: I rather like it, but for one detail

Most of the full sized lenovos have numpads still.

For eg all the E570 units we have here.

big_D Silver badge

Re: I rather like it, but for one detail

The form factor is too small for a num pad. You would need a 15" version, or the keyboard would be so small and squashed, that it would be all but unusable.

analyzer
Happy

Re: I rather like it, but for one detail

Numeric keyboards are abundant at this UK address novatech which do cheap to eye bogglingly expensive laptops all with numeric keypads.

No please don't thank me, you may not be a Brit :-)

tony72

Re: I rather like it, but for one detail

The current Dell Precisions have a full size numeric keypad, unlike the previous generation.

Crypto Monad

Re: I rather like it, but for one detail

You could always plug in an IPv6 Buddy

muhfugen

Re: I rather like it, but for one detail

HP EliteBooks

Anonymous Coward
Anonymous Coward

Re: I rather like it, but for one detail

Fujitsu's U series at least the larger ones come with a dedicated. Num pad section.

Anonymous Coward
Anonymous Coward

Re: I rather like it, but for one detail

Can you point me in the direction of where I would be able to find such a device?

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=dedicated+numeric+keypad+on+a+laptop

ArrZarr Silver badge
Happy

Re: I rather like it, but for one detail

Any device in the 17" Screen range will definitely have a numeric keypad due to the extra real estate necessitated by matching the larger screen.

What you've got to watch out for more is the keyboard layout (ANSI vs ISO). The different enter key will drive you wild if you make a mistake.

AndrueC Silver badge
Happy

Re: I rather like it, but for one detail

The HP Probook I bought a couple of months ago has one. It also has a 'clicky' mouse pad instead of touch only and a 17.3" screen. Nice bit of kit in fact.

src

Re: I rather like it, but for one detail

My VAIO S15 has great keyboard including a keypad. This is also where a widescreen monitor makes sense. If you have a wide keyboard then a widescreen monitor becomes a more sensible choice.

TG2.2

Re: I rather like it, but for one detail

The IPv6 Buddy is not a proper number pad either ... no + - or x keys .. for math functions.

And like several others.. the lack of a dedicated number pad on laptop keyboard means this is a no for me.. I deal with IP addresses all day ... I have never been as fast on the top row numbers, as I have been with number pad.

Crypto Monad

Re: I rather like it, but for one detail

The IPv6 Buddy suggestion was tongue-in-cheek - but if you google "usb numeric keypad", you'll find a ton of standard-layout ones, many for under a tenner - and bluetooth options too.

rototype

Re: I rather like it, but for one detail

Dell 5590

eionmac

Re: I rather like it, but for one detail

Dell Latitude E6530 has dedicated keypad. I have it in use for many years.

K Silver badge

This thing looks slick.. give me, give me, give me

I'll admit, I'm a turn-coat, I brought my first MBP last year (refurb), as I was sick of the stagnant laptop market - But I think I'll be turning-coat once more in the new year for one of these :D

Anonymous Coward
Anonymous Coward

Re: This thing looks slick.. give me, give me, give me

I'm more thinking of this one as an extra to my MBP which I use for the really secure stuff. The problem is that some customers continue to use Windows, and that means I need a separate machine to stay up to date - this may just fit the bill.

What would turn this from a "maybe" in "ok, f*ck the budget and get it now" proposition would be the news that Huawei was intelligent enough to also actively support Linux on these machines. Heck, I'd probably get a few - customers like us to pre-configure stuff and if I wander in with such a machine in a Windows place they'll probably order one on the spot.

As a matter of fact, I may already know one customer who'd buy two as they're having problems with their Fujitsu machines (one is a tablet/keyboard thing whose hardware never quite worked properly)..

Michael H.F. Wilkinson Silver badge
Happy

I must say I like that display and spec. I frequently process BIG images of astronomical objects, many of which have a more-or-less 1:1 aspect ratio. 3:2 is fine, an 3000x2000 rather better than my current FHD screen. Sorely tempted, I must say.

Tom7

Cons

It tops out at 8GB RAM. Yes, you can fit more - because when I buy a new laptop, the first thing I like to do is throw away the RAM it came with (because the chance of there being a free slot is PRECISELY zero) and spluring another £150 on it.

13.9" is a little on the small side for my not-as-sharp-as-they-were eyes.

But oh my, it's pretty.

oiseau
Facepalm

Re: Cons

Hello:

But oh my, it's pretty.

Indeed it is, kudos for the 4:3 ratio.

But that's not why I'd purchase one. (and why the constant comparison to Apple stuff?)

What about the battery, not much mention of it in the article save that it lasts roughly 10 hours.

Is it user replaceable? Or do I have to throw the thing away when it goes south or fails out of warranty?

Cheers,

O.

Dave 126 Silver badge

Re: Cons

> (and why the constant comparison to Apple stuff?)

- individual models of MacBook are commonly seen in the wild, so most readers will find a comparison to a MacBook more useful than to an Alienware XYZ 3000.

- MacBooks have never had 16:9 screens, unlike the majority of laptops until recently (MS's Surface range is 3:2, and some Lenovos iirc)

- the industrial design of the Huawei is similar to a MacBook

- a fellow commentard here has expressed interest in this machine, his current machine us a MacBook

Charlie Clark Silver badge

Re: Cons

The website says 8 GB / 16 GB LPDDR3 2133 MHz*. So 16 GB is possible but I guess it's not user-configurable.

As you grow older you will need to adjust the resolution and, for desktop use, use an external monitor.

Jerome

Re: Cons

"- MacBooks have never had 16:9 screens"

...except for the MacBook Air 11", which had a very 16:9 1366x768 display.

AndrueC Silver badge
Unhappy

Re: Cons

I'd buy for a genuine 4:3 ratio because my ageing eyes require me to run with desktops zoomed in (currently 125% at work, 150% at home). At work that means sometimes having to scroll web sites to use them at home on the 17.3" laptop I'm forever having to scroll web pages. What makes it seem worse is that so many web sites today love to waste horizontal space with stupidly wide margins.

I can only hope that as today's web designers age and presbyopia hits them that they will push harder for design to take zooming into consideration. I'm also hoping someone will address the problem with mobile phones but I fear the only solution there is direct visual cortical stimulation :-/

tentimes

I don't like the aspect ration

No good for games or movies :(

Aladdin Sane Silver badge

Re: I don't like the aspect ration

Can't you just ration your media consumption?

soulrideruk Bronze badge

Re: I don't like the aspect ration

If your primary use for a laptop is watching videos, may I suggest a TV and DVD player/Streaming box combo? Much cheaper than the laptop, and is actually designed for watching movies.

Then you can use the laptop for the real computing tasks it is desinged for.

Patrician

Re: I don't like the aspect ration

"....... a TV and DVD player/Streaming box combo....."

Can't be carried around on trips and used to watch films/TV in hotels.

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