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Visual Studio 2017 15.9 is here! Fire up your Windows on Arm laptops. All four of you


Looks like "four" was rather an overestimate


Xamarin.Android build performance improvement

Thank god for that... 6GB memory use and compiling like it's 1999. However, I'm still at the therapist recovering from trying to get VS2017's many and varied Xamarin related avenues to work together without installing "the kitchen sink" so I might hold off updating for a bit, if I actually get a choice to hold off updating for a bit that is. I don't know why MS gives you Xamarin install options when the only install option that seems to work is the "the fucking lot". Anyhoo, must face my fear and click that update link at some point I suppose.

AndrueC Silver badge

Re: Xamarin.Android build performance improvement

Yeah I've been working with them a bit on improving the mobile development experience. It sounds like they might be getting closer to resolving the 'I just can't be bothered to launch the debugger this time around' that causes so much annoyance. Also it's doing fewer rebuilds which is reducing cycle times.

Still annoying but slightly less painful.


Here, I fixed that for you.

A "flying" dog? Here, I fixed that for you:

Sgt_Oddball Silver badge

Arm laptop?

Is that some new euphemism that's past me by?

Voyna i Mor Silver badge

Re: Arm laptop?

No, this is being typed on one. But not a Windows one.


can't complain

.... about something that only costs £2 on ebay

get the pro version, no need for a microsoft account and it support enterprise for freelancing

}{amis}{ Silver badge


an hour into the install and still waiting on an I7 with an m.2 and 16gb ram why so slow!


Re: GAH!!

JIT compiling and scripting. They can make ANYTHING crawl. ;-)


Re: GAH!!

so can firewalls, more so the built in rubbish that is the windows firewall, that does'nt really do anything and but all background services use all your bandwidth

turn off your router and install all the system app's with the firewall disabled, things are always alot faster, especially windows update installs

The Axe

Bag o ....

Its still a bag of bits and pieces with a lack of consistency. And don't get me started on help and documentation- because I can't because its non existent or useless.

JohnFen Silver badge

Not anytime soon

I'm forced to use Visual Studio at work, where we've just finished the exceedingly painful process of upgrading to Visual Studio 2015. After that nightmare, we'll certainly put off another upgrade for as long as humanly possible.

Richard 12 Silver badge

Re: Not anytime soon

I found the 2015 to 2017 transition refreshingly simple. As in, it actually worked and I got a sln and project files which actually built a working application with only a day of cursing.

Unlike every previous VS version change, which required a week of sacrifices, and Glod help you if the moon was in the seventh house. Or did Jupiter need to align with Mars? I forget.

I presume this is because they finally switched to MSBuild, just in time for everyone else to switch to cmake or qmake.

Strange that my other IDEs seem able to seamlessly update complex projects.

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