Tax the tech giants and ISPs until the bits squeak – Corbyn

Re: Roj blake

"You miss the point are other countries that act shitty aren't trying to get laws passed/rules by politicians that stop you from talking about them for being shitty? No."

This isn't a law. This is 'what is a reasonable definition of someone being a Jew-hater?' And one example might well be 'talks a lot about how the country full of Jews is really terrible all of the time'.

When you have people who talk about Israel being a human rights violator, and talk often about it (for example, the Rt Hon. J. Corbyn), then that's fine. But when they give scant attention to, just off the top of my head, the human rights violations in the Philippines, Venezuela, Mexico, Myanmar, Bangladesh, Australia, the United States, Poland, Hungary and Turkey (I only chose, to varying extents, democracies, to fit in with the definition, as otherwise it's just too easy to list countries), it all seems a bit dodgy.

You never see people specifically campaign against one other country like you see against Israel. You have general human rights campaigners, like Amnesty International, who criticize Israel. They also criticize many other regimes. They are rarely called anti-Semitic because the charge wouldn't stick.

But many people focus on Israel. They criticize them, and often only them, repeatedly. Sometimes lip service is paid to other countries' problems, but the overwhelming output of their campaigning and complaining is against one country. Given Duterte's war on People Who Cross Him, where is the daily outrage? Given China's occupation of several areas, including a recent report suggesting an internment camp with one million people in it. why no BDS campaign against China?

One answer is that Israel's crimes are uniquely horrible, that they are so absolutely evil that they deserve especial opprobrium. Another is that these people just hate the Jews.

Re: Roj blake

@AC

"the problem we have though is that there is no appetite to regulate and have a proper system that is fair and that's where we get the vacuum the corbyns of the world can reside and grow. "

Unfortunately there will never be a fair system as there is no such definition of fair and views like Corbyn's require a denial of the real world and to think of things in a vacuum.

"We have gone from a relatively fair system (you could get an education, good job, work hard, buy a house if you wanted)"

Rose tinted glasses of a utopia that never existed. Class used to be an issue. Blackouts, interest rates in the double figures easy and a desire for the state and unions to look after the people because things were so bad. The result being things getting worse as blackouts and strikes. People leaving school before 16 because earning some money was more important.

Now we have education through to university level (uni being the point where you choose to part with money), a wealth of knowledge virtually free from all over the world via the internet. We have full employment and mostly service jobs instead of back breaking manufacturing. Modern issues are more about not hurting feelings and virtue signalling.

"to an extremely corrupt one"

Corbyn and like minds are all for socialism. A corrupt system which has damaged and destroyed every economy it has touched. A situation far worse than the one we are in.

"you now need two jobs just to pay your rent and if you complain all you get is "get a better job" like they actually exist for most people, it's a race to the bottom"

If you earn the average wage in this country you are the 1% globally! Try telling that to the latte drinking socialist who cant afford their rent as they type on their IPhone and bitch about their student debt for gender studies and they need their safe space. When people can pretend the reality they live in isnt real they are not the going to get a good job no matter what because they are not smart.

"It's a sad state of affairs."

It really isnt. And this is the problem. Yes things can be better, they can be a lot better! But they can be so so so so so much worse that people who dont realise that have been failed by the education system. We have full employment! We bounced out of the recession! We are one of the richest countries in the world and a good portion of that world just wishes it could be here. We have education, healthcare, clean water, affordable food, free time for entertainment! We have access to vast amounts of information and freely available education for anyone. Outside of extreme addition or mental health we have no actual absolute poverty!

When some deluded muppet tells you how bad things are compared to the good old days they have lost the lessons of history and have no idea what they are talking about. When someone suggests socialism as a solution you know they have no clue. In both cases it might be best to direct them to the freely available information they can look up on their phone in their favourite coffee shop to get an education.