iPhone 8 now outsells X, and every other phone

Re: The 8 does prove a point

I chose an Xperia Z3 Compact due to its pocket friendly size and excellent battery life. When it died through accident I found a Nexus 5 to be light and slim enough not to be a pain in the trouser - though the battery was awful. Still, for a plastic it bounced and survived many drops into concrete - until the day it didn't.

A few years on I use my phone for more tasks than I did then, and I don't find the size of a Galaxy S8 (in a chunky case) that inconvenient. Like the Sony I appreciate the waterproofing. I was tempted by an iPhone 8 for its cameras, but it was just too big - and the S8 considerable cheaper since I bought it a few months before the release of the S9.

Re: The 8 does prove a point

"Phone in the pocket at the wrong angle and/or the trousers too tight and crack... across the screen."

I could never understand why people choose to sit on their phones. Just asking for trouble.

Re: Never take a first batch product

I'm glad you are happy. I am (quite possibt) just as happy with my iPhone SE - a manageable size for my activities and acceptable camera performance.

Re: Never take a first batch product

Also, I've had the phone a few times in the lakes of sweden, doing videos of the fish. You'd have called me mad a couple of years ago, if I'd have suggested that

You're still crazy doing it with such expensive kit when good, reliably waterproof phones that are much cheaper have been around for years. I wouldn't worry so much about dropping the phone in water as such, more about on rocks, or in a muddy bit. But it's your money…

Re: @AC It's had its day.

Apple haters have been calling it a fad since iPhone 1. There's always someone who sees their mates leaving Apple as a sign of End Times for Apple.

Did you miss the part where Apple sells both the #1 AND #3 most popular phones in the world? Hardly "on the way out" now is it?

Re: @AC It's had its day.

You may well be right. As things get commoditized, why should people pay premium prices? I don't know; maybe someone at Rolex, Mercedes, BMW, and lottos yachtmakers could answer that question. It doesn't change the fact that no one is making money (indeed they're all losing buckets of it) selling downscale smartphones. The only profit is in the high-end kit.

But I would suggest the Mr. Orlowski has perhaps let his stomp-on-Apple zeal carry him away a little this time. Read this article about the Counterpoint release: https://appleinsider.com/articles/18/07/05/apples-cheaper-iphones-are-not-the-volume-sellers-pundits-predicted-iphone-8-x-are , admittedly from a true fanboi site, and decide for yourself what the news is here. The way I read it, ignoring how various models (and their putative margins) are ranked, Apple sells 50% more high-end (read: profitable) smartphones than Samsung, who in turn sell twice as many as Xiaomi, while BKK and Huawei battle it out for the rest of the profitable part of the market.

While there are rumors that Xiaomi has had some profitable quarters, pretty much no one but the fruit company and Samsung are making money selling smartphones, integrated over all price points they offer. Other companies may be using downscale models as loss leaders, hoping to grab market share and then raise the price of entry in classic capitalist style (way to go, People's Republic). But those two firms have already gotten there. Maybe that's the news?

Re: @AC It's had its day.

"Buying outright a throw away phone and choosing a reasonable contact you are literally saving 1000's, especially over a two year period."

True enough, if you're into "throw-away".

OTOH, if you plan to trade in or resell an older high-end phone, Apples still tend to hold their value better, reducing the cost of your new phone by, potentially, a few hundred [MonetaryUnits].

https://www.cnet.com/news/when-it-comes-to-trade-ins-iphones-are-a-safe-bet/

worked out early on how to lock in idiots

I bought my IPhone4 back in 2010?2011? So, idiot that I am, they locked me in for the past 7 or 8 years.

Might be time to get a new phone now, though. The iPhone 8 sounds like it fits the bill.