back to article Great news, cask beer fans: UK shortage of CO2 menaces fizzy crap taking up tap space

A carbon-dioxide shortage in Blighty may rid bars and pubs of that fizzy nonsense taking up the tap space of proper cask beer. [Oy! Some of us like a good lager – ed.] The UK Food and Drink Federation today issued an alert – just in time for the World Cup – that the country was in danger of running out of the CO2 gas that is …

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  1. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    I am a specialist.

    I am a specialist at creating carbon dioxide. I have done it all my life. Do they use Paypal?

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: I am a specialist.

      I am a specialist at creating carbon dioxide. I have done it all my life.

      Do you supply the US Budweiser "brewery"?

      1. tfewster
        Joke

        Re: I am a specialist.

        I hear the US Budweiser "brewery" is supplied from the other end.

        1. Anonymous Coward
          Pint

          Re: I am a specialist.

          @tfewster

          No, no, no! Not the "other end", Bud comes from what I think the British call a bell end.

          (That better not be "Butt-wiper" in that glass, El Reg.)

        2. Nolveys
          Pint

          Re: I am a specialist.

          I hear the US Budweiser "brewery" is supplied from the other end.

          My understanding is that it comes from the catalytic reformer that's attached to the hydrotreater at the upper 1/4 stage of the pig urine distillation silo.

          1. TheVogon

            Re: I am a specialist.

            "I hear the US Budweiser "brewery" is supplied from the other end."

            Usually put as "Q. How do you turn English beer into American beer? A. Drink it."

            1. J. Cook Silver badge
              Joke

              Re: I am a specialist.

              That reminds me of the old joke:

              "why is american beer like Sex in a canoe? Because it's f&$king near water."

              1. onefang
                Coat

                Re: I am a specialist.

                Fscking near water? You mean it's like checking your hard disk for errors when there's a large jug of water sitting on top of your computer?

                I'll get my coat, it's the one with the <censored/> dodgy HD in the pocket.

    2. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: I am a specialist.

      you sure that was carbon dioxide? Methane more likely! :)

    3. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: I am a specialist.

      I am a specialist at creating carbon dioxide.

      Nope, that's dinitrogen fartoxide.

      1. Sequin

        Re: I am a specialist.

        No - it's Carbon dibaxide

  2. Anonymous Coward
    Pint

    All that build up and London bloody Pride?

    A shandy drinkers idea of what a northern beer should taste like.

    1. TechDrone
      Pint

      Pint of Bomber please landlord

    2. Roland6 Silver badge

      Give the author a little leeway, he is in San Francisco, a bottle of Pride is probably the only UK brewed beer available...

      As for northern beer, Tetleys is a shadow of it's former self ever since Carlsberg closed the Hunslet (Leeds) brewery and contracted out production...

      1. Boring Bob

        Tetleys hasn't been the same since they brought out the round tea bags.

        1. werdsmith Silver badge

          "Northern Beer"

          As in the style of beer that would be classic traditional northern beer. Pretty crap.

          However, ales from northern breweries - as in styles of beer without any particular geographic attachment. Pretty good. Just like decent ales from anywhere else.

          "eee, look at tha's flat soothern beer, it's got no foamy 'ead on it ya soft soothern panseh".

          "fuck off twat, I want a drink not a shave"

    3. LucreLout

      A shandy drinkers idea of what a northern beer should taste like.

      They don't call it shandy down here - they insist it's lager top. They think shandy is a half and half, thus proving beyond question that southerners know fuck all about beer.

      1. werdsmith Silver badge

        Yep, northerners are definitely the experts on shandy.

        1. Mooseman Silver badge

          "northerners are definitely the experts on shandy"

          hand shandy?

  3. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Case for the prosecution

    "Oy! Some of us like a GOOD lager – ed."

    "Kronenburg 1664"

    I rest my case.

    1. Phil O'Sophical Silver badge

      Re: Case for the prosecution

      Indeed, a "seize" in France is the beer equivalent of a jug of house wine from a plastic bag.

      1. Dr_N

        Re: Case for the prosecution

        >Indeed, a "seize" in France is the beer equivalent of a jug of house wine from a plastic bag.

        That'd be a Kro' a 16' is one up from that.

    2. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      Re: Case for the prosecution

      At least it's not a "Cronenberg 1666".

      I's spelled "Kronenbourg" btw.

      1. Inspector71

        Re: Case for the prosecution

        Long live the new lager!

        1. Aladdin Sane

          Re: Kronenbourg 1664

          Non, je ne regrette rien.

  4. Anonymous Coward
    Anonymous Coward

    Or ...

    brew your own. Incredibly satisfying. And fizzing.

    1. LucreLout

      Re: Or ...

      brew your own. Incredibly satisfying. And fizzing.

      "Incredibly saitsfying" is a phrase that has been used to describe my home brew as often as the phrase "maginificent and large beyond comprehension" has been used to describe my manhood. So, not very often, or never, if you prefer precision.

      1. dnicholas

        Re: Or ...

        Is that single precision or double precision?

  5. tfewster
    Facepalm

    "Government must act with urgency to assess the issue as quickly as possible and support the industry through any period of restricted supply."

    1) A Government acting with urgency may have assessed the issue in time for the next world cup,

    2) What has a Free Market problem got to do with Government? It's a bit daft the suppliers all shutting down at once, without stockpiling some, but it's bloody stupid not to secure your supply when you know it's an annual shutdown and expect a big demand this year.

    1. Anonymous Coward
      Anonymous Coward

      We have a left wing government which is trying to encroach on the centre ground between it and the far left opposition, what do you expect?

      1. Bob Ajob

        Bravo madam!

        That is single-handedly the most trollish comment I've read in ages. Well done!

        1. Anonymous Coward
          Facepalm

          Re: Bravo madam!

          Who? Me?

          We have a left wing government. A government which does not believe in the invisible hand of the free market is left wing.

          1. John 110

            Re: Bravo madam!

            "...We have a left wing government..."

            Wait!! What??

          2. Winkypop Silver badge
            Unhappy

            Re: Bravo madam!

            If the gov is left wing I'd hate to see your idea of right wing.

            "If you want a vision of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face - forever." - George Orwell

            1. LucreLout
              FAIL

              Re: Bravo madam!

              "If you want a vision of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face - forever." - George Orwell

              Irony fail. Orwell wrote 1984 about a LABOUR government.

              1. Paul Shirley

                Re: Bravo madam!

                Orwell wrote 1984 about a LABOUR government.

                The 2 halfs of our 2 party state are increasingly hard to distinguish, just slight differences in their choice of evil.

                1. onefang

                  Re: Bravo madam!

                  "The 2 halfs of our 2 party state are increasingly hard to distinguish, just slight differences in their choice of evil."

                  Hence the Eastasia / Eurasia war thing.

          3. Dan 55 Silver badge

            Re: Bravo madam!

            What was that? Something about the invisible brain of the free marketeer?

          4. Anonymous Coward
            Anonymous Coward

            Re: Bravo madam!

            A government which does not believe in the invisible thieving hand of the free market is left wing.

            FTFY.

          5. H in The Hague

            Re: Bravo madam!

            "A government which does not believe in the invisible hand of the free market is left wing."

            Having been in business for over three decades I respectfully suggest that the effectiveness of the invisible hand of the free market is somewhat overestimated. Yes, I believe in mostly free markets, but sometimes we need a bit of regulation to lubricate them, and to protect the vulnerable in society, and the environment.

            Incidentally, although the term was coined by Adam Smith (who used it only once in The Wealth of Nations), he also advocated a range of state interventions in markets. See the leader article in one of the sections of this weekend's edition of the Financial Times, that famously left wing newspaper.

            So, by your definition Adam Smith is left wing!?!

            1. Yet Another Anonymous coward Silver badge

              Re: Bravo madam!

              The conservatives keep having referendums, asking society what they want is obviously socialist

              A proper conservative government would stick to asking shareholders

              1. Roland6 Silver badge

                Re: Bravo madam!

                A proper conservative government would stick to asking shareholders their friends sponsors in the City

                FTFY

                1. John Stirling

                  Re: Bravo madam!

                  A proper conservative government would stick to asking shareholders their friends sponsors in the City

                  FTFY

                  Could we please move on from childish tribal stereotyping.

                  A proper government of whatever philosophical persuasion will act as best they can to deal with the very complex problems they face on a daily basis for the benefit of their electorate.

                  If we the electorate had slightly higher standards with regard to the honesty of our politicians they would be more honest.

                  Doesn't matter if you like it, the 'free' (hah) market drives our choice of politician as much as it does markets.

                  Corruption and dishonesty are inputs into that process as much as anything else and as long as we (political) consumers continue to purchase what is peddled we'll continue to get it.

                  There are occasional attempts at grown up honest government from the fringes, but they rarely get far.

                  1. Tom Paine
                    Pint

                    Re: Bravo madam!

                    By far the best comment on this little threadlet, so naturally it has fewer votes and any others! Have a consolatory pint of Watling St IPA

                  2. tiggity Silver badge

                    Re: Bravo madam!

                    @ John Stirling

                    "If we the electorate had slightly higher standards with regard to the honesty of our politicians they would be more honest."

                    Electorate can not do much (I would like a "none of the above" option - that would be fun in our (not very democratic) First Past The Post system if it won

                    When all the candidates are flawed then the elector is stuck - spoiled ballots ignored, low turnout matters little as even if only a handful of people voted the winning MP would be elected.

                    At best your choice is do I pick the candidate that is as preferable as a poke in the eye with a sharp stick (PITEWASS), the one that is PITEWASS with stick covered in faeces, or the one that is PITEWASS where stick covered in Ebola.

                    When all choices are varying degree of unwanted, you have no (meaningful) choice

                    1. Aladdin Sane

                      Re: Bravo madam!

                      You can always spoil your ballot.

            2. Anonymous Coward
              Anonymous Coward

              Re: Bravo madam!

              I believe in mostly free markets, but sometimes we need a bit of regulation to lubricate them, and to protect the vulnerable in society, and the environment.

              In the UK there's little evidence that the bunglers of government can get the balance right. Telecoms regulation is almost non-existent, energy regulation is prescriptive, intense and interventionist, neither market works well for consumers. Rail regulation has achieved very mixed outcomes, with some excellent operators such as Chiltern, Grand Central and many more that are awful (although the state owned system was even worse in overall performance terms).

              The only good example I can think of is water regulation, which usually strikes a good balance between customers, environment, economics and corporate interests. But you'll find few people that will believe that - and even then it is occasionally subject to political meddling.

              1. tiggity Silver badge

                Re: Bravo madam!

                @Ledswinger

                "The only good example I can think of is water regulation"

                Tell that to people on metered water who shower / bathe themselves & kids less than they would like due to the cost

                As we have a few dry days on the trot in the UK, there are already predictions of water shortages / hosepipe bans - most water companies lose huge amounts (over 20% of water lost through leaks before reaching homes / businesses) - massive leakage (waste of resource) does not stop huge monopoly profits and loads of cash going to shareholders. A proper regulatory system for water would stop any consumer price hikes until leakage was low (0 is obviously not possible, but below 5% )would be an initial achievable target)

                1. Roland6 Silver badge

                  Re: Bravo madam!

                  Tell that to people on metered water who shower / bathe themselves & kids less than they would like due to the cost

                  Depends on what you mean by 'less', when I was growing up having one bath a week was common.

                  Having moved from unmetered to metered, I think, unless your household is a very high water user there little in it, I suspect that to many the issue is the perception that metered will be more expensive.

                  most water companies lose huge amounts (over 20% of water lost through leaks before reaching homes / businesses)

                  Need to be careful about this statistic, a year back we had a 'leak', in the vicinity of the local distribution point, some seven miles away. To fix the leak all the water in the local distribution network had to be drained away, once the leak was fixed the pipes could be refilled, flushed and repressurising the distribution network. All the water 'lost' as a result of that single leak is included in that 20% figure...

                2. DavCrav

                  Re: Bravo madam!

                  "Tell that to people on metered water who shower / bathe themselves & kids less than they would like due to the cost"

                  It costs less than 30p to have a shower,

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